2000-2004 Archived Reports

[Globetrotter]

traveler,

I understand your point about asking to see the "lineup" and, to some extent, I would agree. The problem is - what do you do if the one chosen for you just isn't to your liking. Wouldn't it be equally offensive to them if you turned down their pick and asked to see someone else? I tend to be quite fussy and would never achieve satisfaction with someone whom I considered unattractive - so I would be wasting my money. How do you handle such a situation? I agree I screwed up when negotiating by being too vague up front about what it was I expected. We should have agreed on the service and cost before any money changed hands. That's a mistake I won't repeat.

As far as Asia vs. US. You're right - two different worlds entirely that can't really be compared. HOWEVER, again I want to stress my point, and that is about the quality of the service. It would be one thing if you could get the same quality service here (GFE with all the trimmings) at a higher price but you CAN"T, for the most part - not at ANY price. If anyone knows of any exceptions, I wish you would share them with the rest of us.

Enough said about Asia - I'm getting homesick too! but is there really anything worth talking about in NOVA. Would love to hear it.

[traveler]

Globetrotter, I counted at least two mistakes you made during your visit to HWC that probably cost you a really good time. First, you asked to see "the girls". Very insulting to Korean AMP girls. Makes them feel like "******". Secondly, you agreed to a lesser service for $80 and tried to "step it up" with a Jackson. Bad move. State what you want at the beginning, and pay for it. She had your $80 for a BJ. She didn't need the Jackson. On the two occasions I didn't get FS, I got a really good HR for one Jackson. I've been there "several" times and have gotten FS except on the two occasions. I have asked for a particular girl, but am always told, "they don't work here anymore". That is not insulting to them like asking for a "Line up". That is OK in a brothel, but not an AMP. Also, I have traveled the globe myself, having spent 30 years in the military. True, you can sure get some really good cheap ass overseas, but you can never compare it to the US. Your on a different playing field there. The economy is different and the cost of living much lower. But like Trashman pointed out, factor in your travel costs and it really isn't "Cheap" pussy. In fact, it is very expensive pussy. But a good experience nonetheless. Traveler

[November]

Your absolutely correct...they do it for the money but at the same time they seem to have a natural sense of duty to make you as happy and comfortable as possible while they are with you. They
will absolutely pamper you. I have been to Bangkok and taken a
girl back to my room with no discussion of money and have her service me all night. In the morning I give her a nice tip and cab fare and send them on their way. For many of them, a night in your hotel room is considered luxurious by their normal living standards. They certainly do make themselves pleasant to be
around.

I guess we should get back to talking about Northern Virginia though. Maybe I'll swing back over to the Asia boards.....I feel
homesick now.

[Globetrotter]

November

Amsterdam sounds great. Heard a lot about it although I've never been there. Been to Europe a number of times but somehow missed that. Anyway I just wanted to reiterate your comment about Asia being cheaper. My last trip to SE Asia involved time spent in Thailand, Cambodia and the Philippines. At one club in Bangkok, I spent 90 minutes with 3 women at one time and anything at all was available - you name it and they did it, to each other and to me and did it as if they were my long time girlfriend. I liked one of the three so much that I took her to my hotel to spend the night and we had sex numerous times during the night and again when waking up. That entire adventure cost me a total of USD $100 and that was considered expensive - What can I say, I'm a generous tipper.

Cambodia - spent two nights in Phnom Penh and each night had two girsl with me for the whole night. Didn't get much sleep and it cost me only USD $25 for each girl. The agreed to price was actually only $15 each but I had such a great time I tipped them each $10

Philippines - about USD $40 gets just about any lovely to spend the night with you and they wil do anything and treat you like a king. It is not unusual for one of them to get up in the morning and actually go do your laundry for you.

THAT is what I refer to as QUALITY. Those women know how to treat a guy. Sure, most of them still do it only for the money but they make you feel like they are your girlfriend and that at that moment you are the most important thing in their life. That, my friend, is customer service, the likes of which you cannot find anywhere in the US.

I realize there is a very big difference in the standard of living between the US and those countries so that when I gave that $25 to those VN girls in Cambodia, that was as if I was giving them at least twenty times that amount here. That girl could easily feed herself and pay for her lodging for more than a week with that $25. Disregarding the differences in the value of money though, the biggest difference was in the SERVICE. You simply cannot get treated that way here in the US by any hooker at ANY price and THAT is the problem. We who engage in the hobby helped create this situation because we accept it since for many, if not most, of us, we either accept it or get nothing.

[November]

As a footnote, when I was in Amsterdam in March....and believe me, Amsterdam is more expensive than Asia, I bought 14 different girls in a 5 night/6 day stay...count 'em 2 AMP girls, 2 Asian window girls, 3 black African Chicks, 3 Spanish girls and 4 blond Dutch/Euro girls. The total amount expended was about $800 USD incliuding tips and the girls ranged in age from 19 to 38. Believe me, it was full service in each case. I couldnt fuck 5 girls in the US for that amount. A typical AMP in the US offers a shitty table shower where they throw warm water on you from a distance. At Chaing Mai or Love Club 21 in the 'Dam, the girl will get in a jacuzzi or hot shower with you to lather you up real good...then they will massage, suck and fuck you. I really don't know where I can get that much bang ('scuse the pun) for the buck.

[Globetrotter]

Trashman

I agree with some of what you say. There is certainly the additional expense of travelling halfway around the world that's involved in going to Thailand, Cambodia, PI, etc. and I realize that those who are married aren't free to do that while others who are free might just not be able to afford it. That's fine and I understand that since I am now married myself and can no longer take those "fun" trips.

I think you missed the main point I was trying to make though and that is about the QUALITY of the service one gets in the US. I would be willing to pay the US rate, within reason, if I knew I was going get similar treatment to what I became accustomed to overseas. but that obviously doesn't happen here, at least not in the NOVA AMPs. Now, I know that my opinion is based on just one experience and that may be unfair but I get the feeling that what I experienced is probably representative of most AMPs, in NOVA at least. I can tell you that some years ago, when I used to go to San Francisco quite a bit, I sometimes went to one AMP where all of my expectations were met - and then some. Very similar to the SE Asia experience but only for the hour and at US prices of course. Although I once had an encounter in that SF AMP where the lady wanted me to stay with her the whole night and wasn't going to charge me anything extra. I guess that goes back to the "chemistry" I referred to in a previous post. The other factor, which I think was important is that the young lady was Vietnamese and, as I said in that previous post, VN women are usually much better sexual partners, not to mention the most beautiful in SE Asia, IMHO.

I still would like to know from anyone on this board if any VN action is available in NOVA.

I may attempt another AMP or two as some point but I am not expecting anything different than my HWC experience. Most likely, I will seek those types of services elsewhere such as Baltimore where good quality FS can still be had for a reasonable price.

[November]

And to you Trashman, I say do what works for you. You
are correct about marraige. I am divorced and can come
and go as I wish. As far as the airfare and hotel, I try not
to make the trip strictly about sex. If I go to Amsterdam, I
sample the ladies and the weed sure....but I also try to
enjoy the euro experience. Same with Bangkok. I have been
to Amsterdam twice in the last 6 months and I did not
spend more than $700 for RT air & hotel on either trip.
Unfortunately, these trips do spoil you and anything that
you get back here in the states is a letdown. More power to
you....do the best with your opportunity.

[TrashMan]

You both are missing one point. I see all the time in various city posts guys who go on and on about how the US is a rip off, blah blah blah and how you should go to Thailand or South America or Europe or whereever. The point here is that all sounds great if you have the time. Many guys believe it or not are married and cannot explain to their old lady where they are going for several days out of the country. It just ain't gonna happen! So stop with the US sucks and realize that many are stuck here period ad have to make the best of it. Besides, the airfare is at least 300-600 plus hotel and meals so the cheap pussy is great, but there are other expenses that you don't incur locally.

November,

Why go all the way to Thailand? You can go to El Salvador or Nicaragua and get the same thing cheap. And airfare and travel time are a lot less.

Doodads

[November]

Goddamn Trotter, For that $140, in Bangkok or Pattaya, you could buy 2 girls for a week and fuck them in any hole you wished.
The U.S. poisons women...They get the feeling that their pussy is paved with gold and they charge accordingly. Even these AMP girls...here on VISAS are told to charge these extraordinary rates,
And then you have to put up with them not undressing, etc. Hell,
i had one want to charge me $40 extra to play with her tits.

Fuck the US....I am saving for my winter trip to the Land of Smiles.

[Globetrotter]

Well, I finally let my curiosity get the best of me after reading all the posts on this board and decided to try one of the AMPs reviewed. It has been a very long time since I last did this and that was back in NYC many years ago. From reading the posts, I pretty much knew what to expect in terms of available extras and price, etc. so off I went to HWC in Woodbridge since that seemed to get consistently good reviews.

I am sorry to say that my first visit did not meet with my expectations and that will probably keep me from going back again. When I arrived, I asked the mamasan how many ladies were working and if I could see them first. There were two girls and to my surprise she readily agreed to have me meet each one so that I could pick my favorite. The first, Tina, was big busted (obviously altered), probably in her late thirties but just not my cup of tea. I'd rate her about a 6. The second was named Anna and was around late twenties. She had a very attractive face, about a 9 and an OK body though not as tight as I like them. I'd rate her about an 8 overall.

You all know the routine so I won't bore you with the details. After the shower and massage, the "extras" were brought up I handed my lady $80 with the intention of giving her another $20 if things went well. She basically had agreed to BJ (protected) and I just figured that I could progress to FS as things heated up. after about ten minutes, I let her know I was ready for the next step (FS) and she of course uttered her favorite English word - "money". So I hand her the other $20 to round it off to the $100 which seems to be the going rate from reading this board and she hands it back to me saying that is not enough. Not willing to pay any more than that I just let her continue with BJ and eventual HR with baby oil lubrication. Not a bad feeling but hell, I can do that myself and save $140. What made this experience much less satisfying than it could have been was not so much the unreasonably high cost of FS with this girl but the fact that there was not one iota of GFE. She barely allowed me to touch her. Certainly ruled out 69 - basically, anything that would have turned the excitement level up for me was not something she was willing to do.

Having been to SE Asia many times, I've come to expect a lot for my money. I realize this is not Thailand or Cambodia but still, I expect a better experience when I shell out $140. Perhaps it was just chemistry or the lack thereof but my first AMP experience was not a memorable one and probably not one I'll repeat anytime soon. Next time, I will probably head to DC and see if things are different there.

[November]

freddy...

Your right about oral sex with these girls. I would NEVER..
NEVER..stick my tongue into a working girls pussy and its
for all the reasons you mentioned. Hell, I wouldn't shove
my cock into them without a condom. I am strictly there to
clear the pipes.

[fantasyzfreddy]

It does raise a point...

How would the adult entertainment industry react if male customers were to suddenly start scanning $20 bills on the home scanner and printing them off on their inkjet printers to give as payment to massage parlors, escorts, dancers and strippers. I have seen a couple of providers online who are request pre-payment through PayPal. I gotta say that it would make me feel alot better about being ripped off by a fraudulent bait and switch operation if I knew that the preps weren't going to get very far on the "cash" they stole from me. You think they are going to roll over on you when they get nabbed for distributing phony money. "Oh yeah officer I solisited some guy for sex the other night then had my pimp chase him out of the motel room with a shovel while I emptied out his wallet which had this monopoly money in it. So it is all his fault."

Hmmm... Basically it is all about the money. Not at all about your personal satisfaction.

Frankly that asian hooker at the massage parlor whose legs are wrapped around your head as you are sucking some other guys jizz out of her hole is not looking at this as an erotic moment, merely more money coming out of your wallet into her pocket. The longer she gets you to shove your tongue up in there mining for fools gold, the shorter amount of time you will get to jam your stick around.

Not to be brutally honest or anything, but as a long time veteran of this "hobby" as it is called now... Getting you to orally satisfy the prostitute is the oldest con job in the history of the industry. Oh baby, oh baby right there... You are so good at this... You make me want to come... <-- Big time waster. She is fucking with your mind. You are there for one purpose, to pay some unknown woman to spread her legs for your hairy man meat. Get in accomplish the mission and get out. Zero emotional attachment and she isn't interested dating you either. She might be interested in a visa to live in the US, but chances are she will disappear the day after the wedding never to be seen again. And you don't have the biggest cock she has ever seen, don't have her play with it cause she has never seen one before... <-- Time waster #2. Oh and my personal favorite... Getting you to pay extra for the esteemed priviledge of eating her out.

[November]

Ironically, little over a year ago I seldom saw any MP advertised in the Washington Post for NoVa. All the ads were in DC or Md. Then Montgomery County, Md LE began full scale harassment and either drove them out or underground. They would just givesome non-cop some cash and tell him to go in and let them know if they would sell him sex. The cool part is he had to go all the way with it to make it real so he was gettin laid with police cash and no worry about getting busted. I wish somebody would tell me where I can get a gig like that!! haha. I'd get laid and come back out and tell them that there was no sex offered but the goddamn massage cost $160 !!!!

I would enjoy what you can because I am sure that Fairfax & Prince William Counties have noticed the sudden influx of MP ads in the paper and these places are probably under surveillance.....more for morality reasons than any far-fetched scheme to support worldwide terrorism. If they are gonna bust, look for it to be very close to the local county elections so that some goddamn prick politician can run for re-election claiming that he "cleaned up the county and restored family values"....

[fantasyzfreddy]

Heard an interesting rumor...

Supposedly there is an anti-prostitution group out there who is fed up with lack of police prevention of full service massage parlors. Also they are under the impression that some massage parlors are using the customer's cash to finance terrorist activities overseas. Therefore they are sending in their own undercover operatives ...with... get this ...counterfeit $10 and $20 bills to pay for the services. The plan is to report the massage parlors as manufactoring & distribution points of counterfiet money, seeing how they will have large amounts of counterfiet cash at the locations or wait until the massage parlors attempt to deposit the cash into their bank accounts and/or transfer the funds overseas.