Boston Sports Chat

[Skatar018]

Man that was a hard game against Philly, good to see the D step up & hold Philly to 10 points cause our offense is really struggling.

BTW anyone see the PI on DeAndre Hopkins in the Houston Ravens game?

I get that the ref can miss it but when it's reviewed in NY with all the camera angles they have & they don't overturn a clear cut PI then someone in NY needs to be retrained on what PI is or lose their job cause that was almost as bad as what happened to the Saints.

Only the NFL can fuck up like this, this was suppose to make things better in such a case & when whoever in NY making the decision makes the wrong call then there needs to be repercussions for their actions when they get it wrong.

Which yeah that's a pipe dream as the NFL is rarely held accountable for their actions.

Seriously though I know this is pass interference, the problem is the NFL does not.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...iding-pi-calls

[Skatar018]

I agree football is violent & helmet to helmet is & always will be part of the game, intentional or not, ripping the helmet off another players head & using it to bash him in the head is not.

Perhaps both Garrett & Pouncey should be prosecuted, think if this game was in Pittsburgh that Garrett would be facing assault and battery with a weapon charges? Maybe, maybe not.

The prior helmet to helmet hit was worse in that game!

At least they both had helmets on, Rudolph did not.

I've also been saying since the NFL instituted the helmet to helmet rule, that if a player knocks another player out with a helmet to helmet hit then that player can not return to playing football till the player he knocked out can return to playing football, that means if you ended that players career then you also ended yours.

Anyone remember the hit that Cooks took during the Superbowl against Philly, it knocked him out of the game & a penalty wasn't even called. (not whining just say).

So just when does LE get involved, when the knives & guns come out!

Have always loved the game of football, never been a fan of the NFL, I've said it before & I'll say it again, I swear that if the NFLPA don't take away Goodell's dictatorship of having the last word on what punishment is handed out to who for what in the next CBA (collective bargaining agreement) in 2021 then I'll be done with football, or at least when the Belichick & Brady era is over.

[Longjblues]

Each municipality sets its own standard, which doesn't have to be consistent. It's not up to the sport itself, but rather the particular prosecutor / District Atty in the jurisdiction where attack occurred. Perhaps different outcome if it was a Pitt defender hitting the Cleveland quarterback, since game was in Cleveland and that is where charges would have been brought against Garrett. It wouldn't even matter if "victim" wanted to press charges or not, because the video would be sufficient evidence to convict.

Wasn't there already a precedent in NHL involving Todd Bertuzzi 15 or so years back? Remember Bertuzzi-Moore incident? It was in Canada too where hockey injuries are suppose to be cultural occupational hazard, sort of like sepuku in Japan as in "shit happens". The incident by the way was part of the play albeit a premeditated one which in hockey happens all the time, not something that happened in between whistles. Bertuzzi got a criminal record out of it too. And that was hockey. IN CANADA!

[Nrlmus]

Garrett was lucky that he didn't kill or seriously hurt Rudolph. However, I don't think it need concern LE. It was a dumb play but not worthy of blurring the lines between the NFL and real life.

The NFL is a very violent place. Perhaps half of the players would probably be in prison but for the NFL. I thought Pouncey's play was equally horrific and violent. Kicking a guy on the ground! As one tweeter indicated, "it looked like a fight in the hood. " The prior helmet to helmet hit, where the cornerback was thrown out, was worse in that game! That receiver won't be back for a while.

Not a good look for the NFL, but not worthy of involving legal charges against Garrett. IMHO.

Wasn't there already a precedent in NHL involving Todd Bertuzzi 15 or so years back? Remember Bertuzzi-Moore incident? It was in Canada too where hockey injuries are suppose to be cultural occupational hazard, sort of like sepuku in Japan as in "shit happens". The incident by the way was part of the play albeit a premeditated one which in hockey happens all the time, not something that happened in between whistles. Bertuzzi got a criminal record out of it too. And that was hockey. IN CANADA!

[Longjblues]

Garrett was lucky that he didn't kill or seriously hurt Rudolph. However, I don't think it need concern LE. It was a dumb play but not worthy of blurring the lines between the NFL and real life.

The NFL is a very violent place. Perhaps half of the players would probably be in prison but for the NFL. I thought Pouncey's play was equally horrific and violent. Kicking a guy on the ground! As one tweeter indicated, "it looked like a fight in the hood. " The prior helmet to helmet hit, where the cornerback was thrown out, was worse in that game! That receiver won't be back for a while.

Not a good look for the NFL, but not worthy of involving legal charges against Garrett. IMHO.

As far as I'm concerned that's assault and battery with a weapon. Garrett should be facing criminal prosecution, but as usual LE isn't looking into to it, seems to be a slam dunk case as there is plenty of evidence. Hmmm who knew that criminal activity is allowed on a football field without fear of prosecution!, think I'll start bringing dates there!

As for the NFL, fuck'them if they don't ban Garrett for life, felt that way about Michael Vick also, send a clear message that shit like this will ruin your career in the NFL.

[Skatar018]

As far as I'm concerned that's assault and battery with a weapon. Garrett should be facing criminal prosecution, but as usual LE isn't looking into to it, seems to be a slam dunk case as there is plenty of evidence. Hmmm who knew that criminal activity is allowed on a football field without fear of prosecution!, think I'll start bringing dates there!

As for the NFL, fuck'them if they don't ban Garrett for life, felt that way about Michael Vick also, send a clear message that shit like this will ruin your career in the NFL.

Myles Garrett's helmet hit on Mason Rudolph

[MeatMan]

Albert Haynesworth head stomp or Myles Garrett's helmet hit on Mason Rudolph?. This has been all in the news since last night. I saw the game from Champions Bar and most of the people there were pretty shocked. Myles made contact with Mason's head that could've ended his career. I put the situation entirely on Garrett because he insisted on driving Rudolph into the ground after Rudolf had gotten rid of the ball on a lateral. That's what, rightly, set Rudolph off. DeCastro went after Garrett because of that. Pouncey came in late after with the punches and then the kick after Garrett took the swing with the helmet. Ogunjobi coming in and shoving Rudolph down was laughable and he'll be fined for it. I could see Garrett being gone for the rest of the year because of how seriously this is.

Also, Celtics are on a 5 game road trip and they're facing some tough opponents. Could you guys see them coming back home with some great road wins?. Bruins?. Will someone tell them to pull their heads out of their asses and start playing hockey?. And last, the Patriots. I could see the Eagles giving the Patriots a run but, the Patriots shall prevail with a decent road win. I hate the Eagles, the most annoying, attention-seeking fangirls, I have ever watch and seen.

P.S. I am NOT Outraged like the ESPNS, Damien Woody's Stephen A. Smiths, and FOX Sports of the world!, It's FUCKING FOOTBALL!!. It has always been a violent sport!.

[MeatMan]

Well. Shit man!

The Jets Beat the Giants.
The Falcons beat the Saints.
The Dolphins beat the Colts.
The Browns beat the Bills and.
The Chiefs got beat by the Titans.

Something this week was TRULY in the water. H-o-l-y Shit!.

[MeatMan]

I really like how the Celtics are jelling so early in the season and how they're being ignored with a 7-1 record against a good Spurs team. Gordon Heyward. (sigh) Man, this guy can't catch a break. Luckily, it wasn't his ankle, knee or any lower extremity. It's been mentioned that he'll be out a month or more till his hand heals. Jaylen is playing like the player Celtics fans expected him to be. He drops 30, Kemba drops 26 and playing like a boss!. Robert 'Timelord' Williams is a fucking monster!. I mean jeez, this is his second year!. He's ONLY going to get better!. Jason, Jaylen, and Timelord, this is what the fans have asked for now that the "fucking cancer" is now long gone playing for Brooklyn.

How long this keeps up is anyone's guess. I do hope Gordon comes back ASAP.

[Longjblues]

Celtics are competing against Philly and Bucks for supremacy in Eastern Conference. Both Philly and Bucks have some issues with their 3 point shooting. The players that both clubs lost in off season were competent 3-point shooters. Their replacement players lack history of being above average 3-point shooters. Toronto not deep enough to compete. Of course, Boston's achilles is their big men. Too bad they had to trade Baynes to sign Walker.

Bruins have same issue as last year. Offense from 2nd, 3rd, 4th lines. First line is carrying them right now, but they can't do it for the full season.

Heres hoping Pats correct all their issues during the bye week, Wynn steps in and fortifies O-line, and Harry or someone else steps up as a receiver, and Brady has instant chemistry.

Kawhiless Toronto with Lowry, M. Gasol & Siakam are not the same as were Gretzkyless Oilers with Messier, Anderson and Kurri still leading the charge. Sixers on the other hand are going to get better down the stretch. The Bucks are going to be there for sure too. I'm still dubious about the Heat. They should move Lakers back to Minnesota. At least then the name would fit. They should rename their LA team into WaterShortages or LA Fire. No, I guess that would be too cruel. LOL.

The Bs should be fine down the stretch too. Still are too small and frisky though. Getting a bit more muscle into the lineup wouldn't hurt still. I'd love to see P. K. Subban in the Bruins uniform. Tough, nasty, with a wicked slapper, and would really piss off the Canadiens (not that they matter all that much lately but would warm my heart still).

[Nrlmus]

How about' them Celtics, eh?. How about them Bruins, eh?. Both teams are looking pretty solid!. Yes, of course, the season is early but, you got to like the product on the court as well as on the ice. A question, who are the Celtics achilles down the stretch?. Is it Milwaukee, Toronto?. Could the Celtics win the ECF and face, dare I say, either the Clippers or our arch-rivals?. As for the Bruins, they are playing with a purpose. Dare I say they're playing like. A Rabid bear!. (I would say dog, but, you get the gist).

Future predictions, fellas?. I can say this much for both teams, it sure as hell isn't dull watching them!.

Kawhiless Toronto with Lowry, M. Gasol & Siakam are not the same as were Gretzkyless Oilers with Messier, Anderson and Kurri still leading the charge. Sixers on the other hand are going to get better down the stretch. The Bucks are going to be there for sure too. I'm still dubious about the Heat. They should move Lakers back to Minnesota. At least then the name would fit. They should rename their LA team into WaterShortages or LA Fire. No, I guess that would be too cruel. LOL.

The Bs should be fine down the stretch too. Still are too small and frisky though. Getting a bit more muscle into the lineup wouldn't hurt still. I'd love to see P. K. Subban in the Bruins uniform. Tough, nasty, with a wicked slapper, and would really piss off the Canadiens (not that they matter all that much lately but would warm my heart still).

[MeatMan]

How about' them Celtics, eh?. How about them Bruins, eh?. Both teams are looking pretty solid!. Yes, of course, the season is early but, you got to like the product on the court as well as on the ice. A question, who are the Celtics achilles down the stretch?. Is it Milwaukee, Toronto?. Could the Celtics win the ECF and face, dare I say, either the Clippers or our arch-rivals?. As for the Bruins, they are playing with a purpose. Dare I say they're playing like. A Rabid bear!. (I would say dog, but, you get the gist).

Future predictions, fellas?. I can say this much for both teams, it sure as hell isn't dull watching them!.

[Nrlmus]

MM, you are right about "Good Loss & wake up call". Give credit to Baltimore for a good game & a good game plan. Certainly coming off a bye week helps the Ravens a little.

Not sure if its the first real football team. I would consider Pitt with Roethlisberger, as well as Buffalo (6-2) as "real football teams" notwithstanding what the local talking heads / pundits keep repeating!

The fumble by Edelman was a killer, but perhaps that first penalty / mistake at the end of Baltimore's first drive where the Ravens were originally forced to kick a field goal, but because of the Pats penalty, Jackson scored, set the tone for the evening. Pats seemed out of sync from the get go.

Were the Pats already into their bye week before the game started??

I just hope that getting Wynn back on the O-line, and Harry ads something to the receiving corp, so the Pats can improve their offense. I am not worried about the defense. 14-2 or 13-3 still look like possibilities.

If AB wasn't such a f-head we'd have 19:0.

[IGotID69]

MM, you are right about "Good Loss & wake up call". Give credit to Baltimore for a good game & a good game plan. Certainly coming off a bye week helps the Ravens a little.

Not sure if its the first real football team. I would consider Pitt with Roethlisberger, as well as Buffalo (6-2) as "real football teams" notwithstanding what the local talking heads / pundits keep repeating!

The fumble by Edelman was a killer, but perhaps that first penalty / mistake at the end of Baltimore's first drive where the Ravens were originally forced to kick a field goal, but because of the Pats penalty, Jackson scored, set the tone for the evening. Pats seemed out of sync from the get go.

Were the Pats already into their bye week before the game started??

I just hope that getting Wynn back on the O-line, and Harry ads something to the receiving corp, so the Pats can improve their offense. I am not worried about the defense. 14-2 or 13-3 still look like possibilities.

If the Oline can get on track with Wynn that will huge. Brady didn't have any time, Sony has no place to run. I'm more worried about the oline than anything. As for weapons, Brady had done more with less IMO.

[Longjblues]

MM, you are right about "Good Loss & wake up call". Give credit to Baltimore for a good game & a good game plan. Certainly coming off a bye week helps the Ravens a little.

Not sure if its the first real football team. I would consider Pitt with Roethlisberger, as well as Buffalo (6-2) as "real football teams" notwithstanding what the local talking heads / pundits keep repeating!

The fumble by Edelman was a killer, but perhaps that first penalty / mistake at the end of Baltimore's first drive where the Ravens were originally forced to kick a field goal, but because of the Pats penalty, Jackson scored, set the tone for the evening. Pats seemed out of sync from the get go.

Were the Pats already into their bye week before the game started??

I just hope that getting Wynn back on the O-line, and Harry ads something to the receiving corp, so the Pats can improve their offense. I am not worried about the defense. 14-2 or 13-3 still look like possibilities.

The issue with yesterday's game was that we faced a real football team for the first time this season. Aside from the Buffalo game which was right, the seven other games we played and beat up on, tomato can teams. That was a loss we needed to bring everyone back to reality and realize this team was not going 19-0.