Boston Sports Chat

**JayBean** · 11-04-20 16:28

Originally Posted by MeatMan [View Original Post]

"I mean, look we paid Cam Newton a million dollars. I mean, it's obvious that we didn't have any money. It's nobody's fault. That's what we did in the last five years. We sold out and won three Super Bowls, played in a fourth, and played in an AFC Championship Game. This year we had less to work with. It's not an excuse, it's just a fact. "- Bill Belicheck.

That's the price that's paid to win and I'm not mad at all. Just wished the Millenials would understand that

I couldn't agree more. You show me where any team will come close to this success in not only one but two decades. People have a short term memory around here. This type of success isn't found anywhere in American sports. Appreciate what we had here for so long and realise the grind ahead.

**MeatMan** · 11-04-20 14:55

"I mean, look we paid Cam Newton a million dollars. I mean, it's obvious that we didn't have any money. It's nobody's fault. That's what we did in the last five years. We sold out and won three Super Bowls, played in a fourth, and played in an AFC Championship Game. This year we had less to work with. It's not an excuse, it's just a fact. "- Bill Belicheck.

That's the price that's paid to win and I'm not mad at all. Just wished the Millenials would understand that.

**Nrlmus** · 11-03-20 02:21

Originally Posted by Matty1169 [View Original Post]

Even though Pittsburgh is undefeated. And I will admit Russell Wilson is my favorite quarterback. In the entire League. Even over the great Tom Terrific. LOL. And Drew Brees. Who I love and respect both of those qbs. I'm probably the only Patriots fan in the whole wide world. Who's favorite 3 teams in the NFL are the Patriots, Seahawks and Saints. Of course the Pats are my #1. I've always liked those teams ever since I was 11/12 years old. When I started watching Football. I was pissed when the Steelers beat the Seahawks in the Super Bowl awhile back. And also the time when the Steelers won the SB over the Cardinals. I wasn't happy then either. Cardinals are like my 4th favorite team in the NFL. I know you guys reading this think I'm weird. Haha. But hey 2 each your own. On a side note, I do agree with you guys about Cam. I think he's too accidental prown. Fumbles the ball or gets intercepted in key situations. It doesn't hurt to go with Stidham. At this point. Like ya guys said. But I think Bill is still going with Cam. God forbid if they lose to the frigging 0-7 Jets. Then I think there will be a change at starting QB. For the Patriots.

I'm with you on Russell being a great QB but I'm rather cold on Brees. Neither of them is in the league with Tom though. Tom can make all the mediocrities around him play to their utmost potential game in game out. No other sports figure I can think of could do that. Maybe Claude Lemieux in hockey could bring similar intangibles but no team could tolerate him for more than few seasons. That's why he won Stanley Cup with nearly every team he ever played for but he played for a lot of teams (and won a lot of cups with them too). Tom was able to motivate the same nucleus year after year if need be. He'd do the same in Tampa. Tom for president.

**Matty1169** · 11-02-20 18:38

All the winning they've done the last 20 yrs. To now have this rebuild period. Is indeed worth it. They've earned the rights to have to climb there way up that mountain. Once again. Like you said they don't have any of those guys. So it is now officially a rebuilding process. And Bart Scott always likes to shit on the Patriots. He's a jackass for saying Belichick should be fired. Bill is only one of the greatest coaches in NFL history. If not the greatest. Yet this assclown like you said, wants to fire him. He needs to go away. And not talk about Sports anymore. SMDH. Wasn't he a crappy player anyway!? LMAO. When he used to be in the NFL. And I wouldn't be mad if Bill still starts Cam. But it doesn't hurt to try out, starting Stidham. I do feel bad though for Cam. That he's been having a tough time. Do you Meat or any of you guys ever root for any other teams?? After say the Patriots. It's okay to have a couple backup teams!!

**MeatMan** · 11-02-20 17:20

Originally Posted by Nrlmus [View Original Post]

Cam is not a solution. Bill should try to start Stidham next time and see where it goes. There is really not much to lose.

Though I was pissed at Cam fumbling and having time to clear my mind, I got to thinking, this is worth it. Millenials who only knew winning from 2001 onward are now getting a taste of what it's like being a Patriot fan when faced with adversity. This is well deserved. I also remembered being downtown Boston when the Patriots lost SBLII. I overheard one young lady saying "It's ok, well be back in the next Superbowl". The sheer arrogance, eh?. Well, here we are. No Brady, no Gronk, no Hightower, no Edleman, no Chiung, no Bolden, No Lacoste, no Lee, etc, etc. I even read online from Bart Scott that Belichick should be fired. Not happening, assclown.

BUT to keep it real Nr, Bill has poorly drafted the last 5 years. Mostly on offense. Our DB drafting has been decent. It's why we are the oldest team in the league. 20 years of kicking every team's ass were going to catch us sooner or later. The rebuild begins.

P.S. Why is Alex Cora one of five candidates for the managerial position for the Sox and not an obvious choice?. Any baseball fans wanna chime in on this?.

**Matty1169** · 11-02-20 17:19

Even though Pittsburgh is undefeated. And I will admit Russell Wilson is my favorite quarterback. In the entire League. Even over the great Tom Terrific. LOL. And Drew Brees. Who I love and respect both of those qbs. I'm probably the only Patriots fan in the whole wide world. Who's favorite 3 teams in the NFL are the Patriots, Seahawks and Saints. Of course the Pats are my #1. I've always liked those teams ever since I was 11/12 years old. When I started watching Football. I was pissed when the Steelers beat the Seahawks in the Super Bowl awhile back. And also the time when the Steelers won the SB over the Cardinals. I wasn't happy then either. Cardinals are like my 4th favorite team in the NFL. I know you guys reading this think I'm weird. Haha. But hey 2 each your own. On a side note, I do agree with you guys about Cam. I think he's too accidental prown. Fumbles the ball or gets intercepted in key situations. It doesn't hurt to go with Stidham. At this point. Like ya guys said. But I think Bill is still going with Cam. God forbid if they lose to the frigging 0-7 Jets. Then I think there will be a change at starting QB. For the Patriots.

**Nrlmus** · 11-02-20 15:28

Originally Posted by MeatMan [View Original Post]

I was at the 99 in Charlestown raging on Cam. He STAYS fumbling in crucial minutes. It's been that way his whole damn career.!. I was P-I-S-S-E-D!.

Cam is not a solution. Bill should try to start Stidham next time and see where it goes. There is really not much to lose.

**MeatMan** · 11-02-20 14:34

Originally Posted by Bran001 [View Original Post]

He must have heard you.

I was at the 99 in Charlestown raging on Cam. He STAYS fumbling in crucial minutes. It's been that way his whole damn career.!. I was P-I-S-S-E-D!.

**Bran001** · 11-02-20 09:36

Originally Posted by Sounds [View Original Post]

Cam was holding the ball way too long.

He must have heard you.

**Sounds** · 10-27-20 15:20

Originally Posted by Nrlmus [View Original Post]

Am I the only one who thought that Stidham has much faster release than Cam in that travesty of the game?

Cam was holding the ball way too long. If no one open, do your running or get rid of it. Don't stand there forever.

Tampa Bay is certainly coming together. Would not surprise me if Tom has another ring.

**Nrlmus** · 10-27-20 00:07

Am I the only one who thought that Stidham has much faster release than Cam in that travesty of the game?

**Sounds** · 10-07-20 14:27

Originally Posted by Nrlmus [View Original Post]

Great game last night. Miami sure made the Lakers sweat. I wish Miami won (anybody but the Lakers in my book) but great players outdid great coach and great team. There will be no 2004 Pistons this time around. Oh well.

As for Monday's game I felt really sorry for poor Hoyer but I also thought that Stidham showed some flushes of being a good QB. I suspect if he were to get more reps last week we could've won that game. We also likely would've won with Cam at the helm imo. Just like with Trump for some reason I was not surprised that it was Cam who got Covid. I suspect though (knock on the wood) that Cam would go through it asymptomatic.

Agree about the Pats game. But now Gilmore has it. The most important players on both sides of the ball. Wondering which other players will come down with it now.

**Nrlmus** · 10-07-20 13:34

Great game last night. Miami sure made the Lakers sweat. I wish Miami won (anybody but the Lakers in my book) but great players outdid great coach and great team. There will be no 2004 Pistons this time around. Oh well.

As for Monday's game I felt really sorry for poor Hoyer but I also thought that Stidham showed some flushes of being a good QB. I suspect if he were to get more reps last week we could've won that game. We also likely would've won with Cam at the helm imo. Just like with Trump for some reason I was not surprised that it was Cam who got Covid. I suspect though (knock on the wood) that Cam would go through it asymptomatic.

**ArchersTarget** · 09-28-20 19:15

Originally Posted by Nrlmus [View Original Post]

I don't think Stevens is the problem. I think Ainge should just go out and get a true veteran and keep him on the bench if necessary but just have him there, just like Miami did with Haslem (Haslem? Who is that? Right.) Spoelstra and couple of other Miami players talked about Haslem as being the most integral part of their team that keeps everybody cool and composed despite of him hardly playing any minutes in the series. The main difference between us and Miami was that Miami was cool and composed while we proved especially at the end of the last night's game that we were anything but IMHO.

In addition Stevens just doesn't have equivalents of 'the Truth', KG, Ray Allen and Rondo on his team Tatum and Brown notwithstanding.

I think we are just one piece away and it is having a true center. There will be changes for sure. And as for Stevens I'm not sold on him yet as he could be a Pitino that can only coach college ball.

**Nrlmus** · 09-28-20 13:04

Originally Posted by Jaristas [View Original Post]

He has been here since 2013. I do not see him winning a championship anytime soon.

I don't think Stevens is the problem. I think Ainge should just go out and get a true veteran and keep him on the bench if necessary but just have him there, just like Miami did with Haslem (Haslem? Who is that? Right.) Spoelstra and couple of other Miami players talked about Haslem as being the most integral part of their team that keeps everybody cool and composed despite of him hardly playing any minutes in the series. The main difference between us and Miami was that Miami was cool and composed while we proved especially at the end of the last night's game that we were anything but IMHO.

In addition Stevens just doesn't have equivalents of 'the Truth', KG, Ray Allen and Rondo on his team Tatum and Brown notwithstanding.