BBFS Providers Manhattan

[AllNaturalFeel]

It'd be like 1985 again.

Seriously, what we have now may suck due to the draconian laws but back then. Well, it truly sucked. There was no Internet so getting information about who does what, whether they are rip-offs or whatever was near impossible. Sure, there was word of mouth, and a few magazines but for the most part those of us around back then took a LOT of chances. And mid-1980's was the height of the AIDS / HIV scare so you had that thrown in the mix, too. Back then there was so much unknown about the disease, and a lot of misinformation was being spread around. And many of the escorts I met back then had never even heard of AIDS.

I remember traveling (mostly the USA) and calling escort agencies I found in the yellow pages in the phone book and not knowing what I would get. Would I get someone who was a "real" escort? Would I get a cop? Would I get some drug addict? A woman who looked like Rodney Dangerfield? When I opened the door to my hotel room, I never knew what I was getting or what they would provide, or even how much it would cost. When you're 3,000 miles from home and worrying about someone turning up with a gun. Well, it wasn't good for the nerves.

You forgot to mention how drastically different the 80's were compared to today especially in regards to crime. Especially with cameras being everywhere now. Even if it's illegal, nobody as in nobody in law enforcement cares about prostitution in Manhattan unless it's the Asian spas. I think you are exaggerating a bit LOL. Especially with this being the Manhattan section. Probably one of the more safest cities in the country. Even with it being illegal, people will still hesitate to try and pull crimes on Johns. That happens more often in boroughs outside of Manhattan.

Even besides all of that, people have to stop being so scared about a world without Eros and Switter. We love to bring up these review sites and forums like this as if they do anything. As I'm talking as of now, months ago I think Eros stopped allowing providers to post their website links in their Eros ads. I'm not 100 percent sure but I think they did the same for their social media pages also.

So now it's more likely to get providers to see you without a reference. The whole reference thing is silly though because it's 2019 and anybody can change numbers and identities at will. I always cringed how both providers and clients in this city act like it's so dangerous when it's the safest city to hobby. And it will continue to be the safest even if the whole internet shuts down.

[MrFrench]

Scientists have now cured HIV in mice for the first time, giving real hope that a cure is a few years away. Curious what the impact this will have on condom usage as this approaches a cure.

Actually, according to my cousin who is a researcher in microbiology, there are 3 different methods that have been found to cure HIV. One has been tested in mice, one has been tested in humans, and one has not yet been tested except in tubes. The two that have been tested both involve gene manipulation and both tests have been successful. However, a real cure is still decades away (at least 2), especially in the USA The human patients that were cured were in the you. K. Even if they manage to formulate a cure over there within the next few years, they would have to find a company willing to manufacture it and market it. Then, to bring it to the USA Means new human trials (the FDA won't accept trials done in other countries) and a USA Company to manufacture it. That process takes another 10 years. All in all, my cousin estimates that a real cure available to patients everywhere is around 2-3 decades away even if one of the current methods turns out to be viable and marketable and even longer before it's cheap enough for most people to be able to afford it.

I don't think I'll live long enough to find out what happens with the cure. But, my suspicion is it would be another decade or two beyond that, with no new diseases or mutations, before people feel relaxed enough and certain enough to "forget" what happened with HIV / AIDS and return to the way things were in the 1960's. Early 1980's where condoms would rarely be used or even mentioned. I certainly won't be around to see that.

[MrFrench]

The July / August issue of Wired has a great article in it that details how and why Backpage got busted, what the current legal situation is with their case, and other information. According to the article, it was largely because of Backpage that FOSTA / SESTA got passed. The article is a fascinating read for anyone who is interested. I got my copy through my local library's digital service. Your local library might have a copy too so you don't need to go out and buy it.

[APope]

How well / deep does Gina Rollins screen? Should I actually give her my real info?

Gina is legit. Give her whatever info she asks for screening. If you think, its too much, then its too much but don't expect her to see you.

[APope]

Wait, so she wouldn't even let you CIP? And now on top that she raised her rates? Not worth it IMO.

No CIP back then but that was before she did it on camera. When she allowed me to break her ass in for her return to porn, she was cool with it. No A2 M or A2 P though.

[BostonRedSox]

How well / deep does Gina Rollins screen? Should I actually give her my real info?

[NYExplorer]

While nobody likes condoms, going backwards would be bad for everybody. FOSTA / SESTA is bad enough but if that actually happened -- if Eros and Switter and Twitter and everything else went down AND it was harder for providers to even HAVE websites without heavy censorship -- it would make things INFINITELY MORE DANGEROUS for providers AND hobbyists and be good for NO ONE. Putting the providers in a position where their backs are against the wall and so they provide BBFS out of DESPERATION would be TERRIBLE AND MORE DANGEROUS FOR EVERYONE.

Scientists have now cured HIV in mice for the first time, giving real hope that a cure is a few years away. Curious what the impact this will have on condom usage as this approaches a cure.

[UncleThrax]

When she was getting ready to get back into porn, she mentioned that she needs hadn't done greek in a while so I nailed her ass a few times raw. Unlike her pussy, she let me blow my load into her ass.

Wait, so she wouldn't even let you CIP? And now on top that she raised her rates? Not worth it IMO.

[Ktk1019]

It should also be noted that the Palmer sisters are now the Palmer sister. One retired. But BBFS is a no go.

Raw or covered?

There were the Palmer sisters in San Francisco, so are those the same ones?

I know they traveled for work, but when I inquired about BBFS, it seemed a no go.

Also, some reviews seemed to indicate they didn't really make out with each other.

[MrFrench]

While nobody likes condoms, going backwards would be bad for everybody. FOSTA / SESTA is bad enough but if that actually happened -- if Eros and Switter and Twitter and everything else went down AND it was harder for providers to even HAVE websites without heavy censorship -- it would make things INFINITELY MORE DANGEROUS for providers AND hobbyists and be good for NO ONE. Putting the providers in a position where their backs are against the wall and so they provide BBFS out of DESPERATION would be TERRIBLE AND MORE DANGEROUS FOR EVERYONE.

It'd be like 1985 again.

Seriously, what we have now may suck due to the draconian laws but back then. Well, it truly sucked. There was no Internet so getting information about who does what, whether they are rip-offs or whatever was near impossible. Sure, there was word of mouth, and a few magazines but for the most part those of us around back then took a LOT of chances. And mid-1980's was the height of the AIDS / HIV scare so you had that thrown in the mix, too. Back then there was so much unknown about the disease, and a lot of misinformation was being spread around. And many of the escorts I met back then had never even heard of AIDS.

I remember traveling (mostly the USA) and calling escort agencies I found in the yellow pages in the phone book and not knowing what I would get. Would I get someone who was a "real" escort? Would I get a cop? Would I get some drug addict? A woman who looked like Rodney Dangerfield? When I opened the door to my hotel room, I never knew what I was getting or what they would provide, or even how much it would cost. When you're 3,000 miles from home and worrying about someone turning up with a gun. Well, it wasn't good for the nerves.

And, I had some real scares.

There was the time when I nearly got killed by two big dudes who tried to bust down my hotel room door.

And there was the time when the porn star I had flown in to meet me went off her meds and went to the police station in the middle of our "date" because she got paranoid and thought someone was following her. Can you imagine explaining to the nice police officer who calls your hotel room that the woman who used you as a reference is someone whose real name you don't know? Or explaining why you spent a couple of grand to fly her in to meet you?

No, I'm grateful for the Internet and sites like this one, the old TER, and all the other sites where info is shared, as well as all the ad sites, escort's personal pages, and everything else we now have. It's a lot safer than it used to be. It's not as good as it was 5 years ago but, it's a whole lot safer than it was back in the 80's.

To return to that time. The thought makes my skin crawl. I'd probably just stop mongering.

[NuttyLoon]

I had the palmers sisters once. One in a life time experience. Still looking for mother / daughter duo.

Raw or covered?

There were the Palmer sisters in San Francisco, so are those the same ones?

I know they traveled for work, but when I inquired about BBFS, it seemed a no go.

Also, some reviews seemed to indicate they didn't really make out with each other.

[Jh8558]

Gentlemen,

Have heard very nice things about her head game.

2 questions:

1). Any chance of BBFS?

2). What is her rate for the hour? (Website does not list "donations".

Thanks in advance.

[Draves]

Thanks for this story. Giuliani really messed up everything. What he did was made worse because obviously with all the websites that started to pop up. Especially EROS which has been around for like 20 years now. I know this sounds crass but I just wish that that site (Eros) and others like Switter would go down and for the remaining ones they would be censored more and it would be hard for providers to make websites. I know sounds mean but it needs to get back to moments like you described 20 years ago where it was far less jaded and robotic.

I have read this thread and I know there have been great pics especially Gina who I've seen like everyone else. She is always great. But she won't be around forever and we even see from recent posts in here guys are describing how some of these ladies who are older and not exactly new providers are charging and arm and a leg and now refusing BBFS LOL.

No something needs to happen on the internet to convince these providers to go back to doing it as often as they did in the 90's. With Eros, Switter, Secret Areangements, etc it's too many options so we get taken for granted. There are thousands of escorts that use Eros on and off and I figure it's the same for Switter. If those sites went down like Backpage, the game would be a lot better with actual face to face GFE. I didn't forget about Twitter too LOL. Hopefully we stop seeing certain providers on there bragging about all the gifts they get from their dates instead of the great services they provide.

Sorry for the mini rant LOL but like all of you I just really don't like condoms.

While nobody likes condoms, going backwards would be bad for everybody. FOSTA / SESTA is bad enough but if that actually happened -- if Eros and Switter and Twitter and everything else went down AND it was harder for providers to even HAVE websites without heavy censorship -- it would make things INFINITELY MORE DANGEROUS for providers AND hobbyists and be good for NO ONE. Putting the providers in a position where their backs are against the wall and so they provide BBFS out of DESPERATION would be TERRIBLE AND MORE DANGEROUS FOR EVERYONE.

[APope]

Bareback on the table. Saw her twice this year at Vegas and NYC. She will be soon in NYC for those who are interested. Extra donation plus test results from a porn certified lab. I said already a lot. I don't want her to know it's from me. Please no inbox. I have a ton of messages already.

She tries to make it sound like you're special that you stick it in raw but you're not. Now that I no longer see her, I'll share my experience with Danielle Derek. I've had BBFS since our first meeting in 2012, when Cindy was pimping her out and taking all her money. My only complaint were the fake porn sounds gets annoying so I had to tell her to never do that with me again. Other than that, she was a solid fuck. We met so often that she reduced her rates to an impossibly low numbe that I couldn't afford to see anyone else! When she was getting ready to get back into porn, she mentioned that she needs hadn't done greek in a while so I nailed her ass a few times raw. Unlike her pussy, she let me blow my load into her ass. Everything changed when she got her boobs redone and met the dude that brought her back into porn. She copped an attitude and insisted on raising her rates to $600. I respectfully declined since she was only charging me $1 XX per visit for nearly 4 years.

[AllNaturalFeel]

Well, one set was back in the mid-80's through an agency in NYC that is long gone. It was an ok session as the girls weren't that much into it, for whatever reason.

The better one though was a random encounter I had in London in, I think, August of '99. I was staying at a hotel near Covent Garden that the agent had recommended but turned out to be something of a shit-hole with staff that was very rude to American tourists. It was blistering heat that summer and my room a tiny closet just big enough for a bed (no drawers, tv, or anything else) and was right above the kitchen or something with no air conditioning. The room was something like 100 degrees easily and no air flow due to having only one tiny window. I had gone out for a walk (it was much cooler outside) and found that the area was crawling with hookers but because my room was so beastly hot, I really didn't feel like bringing anyone back to the room. Anyway, I was heading back up to my room and got onto the elevator. It went up one floor, stopped and these gorgeous big-busted red-headed twins got on. I think my jaw dropped, and my eyes popped in and out like a cartoon wolf, with a loud BOING sound effect. LOL! I turned to them and said something like: "Well, I haven't been drinking so I know I'm not seeing double because I'm drunk". They laughed. We chatted a bit while the elevator rose (it was really slow) and by the time it got to my floor, I found out they were hookers and they had a room in the hotel with air conditioning. So I went to their room, spent the night there fucking two gorgeous red-heads (D-cups), no rules, no condoms, in cool air. And all for the equivalent of about $150. It was heaven.

Someday, maybe I'll write a book. And this story (with more of the details) will definitely be in it as one of my favorite stories of my getting some strange in strange lands.

Thanks for this story. Giuliani really messed up everything. What he did was made worse because obviously with all the websites that started to pop up. Especially EROS which has been around for like 20 years now. I know this sounds crass but I just wish that that site (Eros) and others like Switter would go down and for the remaining ones they would be censored more and it would be hard for providers to make websites. I know sounds mean but it needs to get back to moments like you described 20 years ago where it was far less jaded and robotic.

I have read this thread and I know there have been great pics especially Gina who I've seen like everyone else. She is always great. But she won't be around forever and we even see from recent posts in here guys are describing how some of these ladies who are older and not exactly new providers are charging and arm and a leg and now refusing BBFS LOL.

No something needs to happen on the internet to convince these providers to go back to doing it as often as they did in the 90's. With Eros, Switter, Secret Areangements, etc it's too many options so we get taken for granted. There are thousands of escorts that use Eros on and off and I figure it's the same for Switter. If those sites went down like Backpage, the game would be a lot better with actual face to face GFE. I didn't forget about Twitter too LOL. Hopefully we stop seeing certain providers on there bragging about all the gifts they get from their dates instead of the great services they provide.

Sorry for the mini rant LOL but like all of you I just really don't like condoms.