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  1. #3754

    I am serious

    I know you didn't ask me. Quality is down but I have no complaints and don't have any reason to go elsewhere. I have many amazing ATFs to repeat and can never see all the new girls I want to see in SoCal. There were a couple young hot looking Bay girls just a week or two ago. I was going to try them but they were gone already.

    However I flew up to the Bay before lunch and back in time for dinner with nobody the wiser. Uber is probably cheaper than car rental. Plan it well and you may get to see some popular girls in the Bay. Don't be fooled by the pics though. Choose wrong and you will still think she is old.

    The Bay used to have more younger and hotter girls too. I don't know where all young hot import Kgirls went. Some girls that return to LA now were at the bottom of my TOFTT list before FOSTA. Some bookers can't import enough and even try to recruit local girls.

    I read many bad reports from you guys and was just glad I was right in staying away because I didn't like their pics. I can guess from some photoshop pics that they are old (35+) before I even add 5 or 10 years. I would only take the bait with fake pics if bookers often recommended good girls.

    Also I don't think what you guys posted are cryptic including Luki review. I pay attention to everything that is posted and my radar is wide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toungsten  [View Original Post]
    Are you serious?

  2. #3753
    Quote Originally Posted by PepsiLover  [View Original Post]
    The pool of quality providers have definitely gone down compared to just a few years ago, and I really miss Gaga and Sexy Lohan. I wonder why LA market can't attract quality providers that we used to. I'm puzzled even more that the Bay Area market is at 220, where housing and standard of living is far more expensive than LA, and these providers choose to stay up there rather than down here.

    FOSTA Act has forced CV and TER to shut down, which led to disappearance of some providers, and we're frustrated that we cannot easily find solid providers. I imagine the business has gone down too since they cannot no longer advertise openly on the Internet, and less savvy mongers gave up searching in frustration.
    The reason is because they have more customers in the Bay Area. All the introverted computer programmers demand their services. All the hip young people moving to LA are on IG and tinder rather than HX. It is the same reason OC is a better market than LA.

  3. #3752
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    I have posted about the Palace frequently about the poor quality of girls. I only kept their number to see Namu once in awhile. Now that Namu moved, there is no reason to do the Palace anymore. It's now deleted on my phone and I don't think I will ever add it ever again. Ever since all the regular vets left (Casino, Naomi, Jenny O, Asuka, Brenda) any new talent I saw was always old as fuck. I am guessing 40 is the youngest and just goes downhill from there. Sorry, but if I am paying the prices we usually pay, I expect far younger with a certain standard of service. As for walking out, I always thought bookers would give you a bad mark and possibly blacklist you if you decide you don't like what you see. I never understood this policy as it's customer unfriendly. I get it, but I certainly don't agree with it. They probably know that 99% of the guys will just go through with it because they want get a nut out.
    Never say never.

    You never know that maybe a new shinning star might pop up at the P?

    Not saying now but pepsi does recruit and she might get a diamond in the rough!

  4. #3751
    Quote Originally Posted by PepsiLover  [View Original Post]
    I'm sorry that there was a mix up, but such things happen from time to time, not just at The Palace, but everywhere else. Mistakes happen, and I don't think the booker was intentionally trying to screw you. There is no reason for them to that.

    Because The Palace booker is very prompt in replying, usually within minutes of texting. Also very prompt in sending pics when I request it. Making appointment is efficient and easy, and they never cancelled on me. I just appreciate this booker for making my life easier.

    Yeah, there were a few times when I had to wait even though I arrived on time, but that's not necessarily the fault of the booker. It could've easily happened because the previous appointment was late, causing rest of the appointments to be pushed back.

    Bad sessions? I've had couple of those even though others have said she was hot and great. We can generally agree on their looks and performance, but we all have different taste on girls, and they have different preference on us, so my session is going to be different than yours and vice versa. So how is the bad session becomes the fault of the booker. The booker didn't call us we did, and we chose to book. Do your diligence and do your research before booking to avoid bad session, unless you want to TOFTT. Even then there is no 100% guarantee.

    Lack of quality? That happened at everywhere ever since the FOSTA Act was passed. And some agencies are really paranoid about taking in new clients and I'm frustrated just like everyone who cannot make appointments with Julie and Mona. That is the fault of mine for seeing the same ATF, instead of trying out different talent when I had the opportunity.

    Some of us have vented frustration on The Palace, and I'm sure they are all legit and valid, but this is the current climate that we're in post FOSTA, and we just have to wade through more carefully in choosing. It's been less exciting to monger these days, but I appreciate I have access to this forum and some bookers.
    The booker is decent in some times but it depended on the day and mood I suppose. I did have the booker apologize to me 2 x. Once, when I went to see someone and I was almost there, he told me the girl I went to see was too sore. He failed to tell me this before I left. I salvaged the night by doing something esle within the area. The second time was with Namu and I never got the full story. Rumor had it she was too drunk and couldn't see me as first appointment. I did get a slight discount on a return visit. The palace started to get pretty bad more than a year ago. I have posted a few times about my experiences. I saw three different girls and on each occasion, all of them were really bad. First time was with this 45+ flabby woman who should be paying guys. The second time was with this super photoshopped girl named Jasmine who looked nothing like her picture. One of the worst sessions I had. Solo shower, covered BJ, covered CFS, no kissing and counted the money in front. Not only that, she was an old hag to boot with heavy makeup. The last straw for was a new girl named Mia. I don't remember much but other than CFS, she kept bumping into me in the wrong ways during the session like she was inexperienced. On top of not being known for BB friendly too much and more YMMV, I have gone to greener pastures (M) where she keeps the quality somewhat consistent in the current climate of things. The golden years for me at the palace was late 13-16.

  5. #3750
    Quote Originally Posted by PepsiLover  [View Original Post]
    I'm sorry that there was a mix up, but such things happen from time to time, not just at The Palace, but everywhere else. Mistakes happen, and I don't think the booker was intentionally trying to screw you. There is no reason for them to that.

    Because The Palace booker is very prompt in replying, usually within minutes of texting. Also very prompt in sending pics when I request it. Making appointment is efficient and easy, and they never cancelled on me. I just appreciate this booker for making my life easier.

    Yeah, there were a few times when I had to wait even though I arrived on time, but that's not necessarily the fault of the booker. It could've easily happened because the previous appointment was late, causing rest of the appointments to be pushed back.

    Bad sessions? I've had couple of those even though others have said she was hot and great. We can generally agree on their looks and performance, but we all have different taste on girls, and they have different preference on us, so my session is going to be different than yours and vice versa. So how is the bad session becomes the fault of the booker. The booker didn't call us we did, and we chose to book. Do your diligence and do your research before booking to avoid bad session, unless you want to TOFTT. Even then there is no 100% guarantee.

    Lack of quality? That happened at everywhere ever since the FOSTA Act was passed. And some agencies are really paranoid about taking in new clients and I'm frustrated just like everyone who cannot make appointments with Julie and Mona. That is the fault of mine for seeing the same ATF, instead of trying out different talent when I had the opportunity.

    Some of us have vented frustration on The Palace, and I'm sure they are all legit and valid, but this is the current climate that we're in post FOSTA, and we just have to wade through more carefully in choosing. It's been less exciting to monger these days, but I appreciate I have access to this forum and some bookers.
    As long as Pepsi keeps periodically popping up to perfectly please my pulsating penis, The Palace is okay by me!

    BC.

  6. #3749
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    I haven't had a long ATF in awhile or ever at all here in LA due to the recent events in the past year. Alot of girls just come and go within days in some cases or weeks at most. There were two girls at M that I liked that didn't stay or last for more than a few weeks so I often contemplated about flying out to another state and city just to see something better than we got here. Seems like a huge ass hassle either way for an hour of pussy. You got to drive to the airport, park your car, pay for that extra plane ticket. Land, get a rental car, see the girl finally. Then you have the other issue of finding a plane back same day that works well to come back or you have to stay overnight and lose your day as opposed to a few hours here even in traffic.
    Unless you're Floyd Mayweather that sounds like a lot to go through for some provider punani. If I had other things planned around it to do in the city I. E. Catch a show, check out a museum, visit a friend etc, I could see myself making that happen.

    BC.

  7. #3748
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    I haven't had a long ATF in awhile or ever at all here in LA due to the recent events in the past year. Alot of girls just come and go within days in some cases or weeks at most. There were two girls at M that I liked that didn't stay or last for more than a few weeks so I often contemplated about flying out to another state and city just to see something better than we got here. Seems like a huge ass hassle either way for an hour of pussy. You got to drive to the airport, park your car, pay for that extra plane ticket. Land, get a rental car, see the girl finally. Then you have the other issue of finding a plane back same day that works well to come back or you have to stay overnight and lose your day as opposed to a few hours here even in traffic.
    Are you serious?

  8. #3747

    Is it worth to take a plane to go to another city?

    I haven't had a long ATF in awhile or ever at all here in LA due to the recent events in the past year. Alot of girls just come and go within days in some cases or weeks at most. There were two girls at M that I liked that didn't stay or last for more than a few weeks so I often contemplated about flying out to another state and city just to see something better than we got here. Seems like a huge ass hassle either way for an hour of pussy. You got to drive to the airport, park your car, pay for that extra plane ticket. Land, get a rental car, see the girl finally. Then you have the other issue of finding a plane back same day that works well to come back or you have to stay overnight and lose your day as opposed to a few hours here even in traffic.

  9. #3746

    The Palace.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    I have posted about the Palace frequently about the poor quality of girls. I only kept their number to see Namu once in awhile. Now that Namu moved, there is no reason to do the Palace anymore. It's now deleted on my phone and I don't think I will ever add it ever again. Ever since all the regular vets left (Casino, Naomi, Jenny O, Asuka, Brenda) any new talent I saw was always old as fuck. I am guessing 40 is the youngest and just goes downhill from there. Sorry, but if I am paying the prices we usually pay, I expect far younger with a certain standard of service. As for walking out, I always thought bookers would give you a bad mark and possibly blacklist you if you decide you don't like what you see. I never understood this policy as it's customer unfriendly. I get it, but I certainly don't agree with it. They probably know that 99% of the guys will just go through with it because they want get a nut out.
    I'm sorry that there was a mix up, but such things happen from time to time, not just at The Palace, but everywhere else. Mistakes happen, and I don't think the booker was intentionally trying to screw you. There is no reason for them to that.

    Because The Palace booker is very prompt in replying, usually within minutes of texting. Also very prompt in sending pics when I request it. Making appointment is efficient and easy, and they never cancelled on me. I just appreciate this booker for making my life easier.

    Yeah, there were a few times when I had to wait even though I arrived on time, but that's not necessarily the fault of the booker. It could've easily happened because the previous appointment was late, causing rest of the appointments to be pushed back.

    Bad sessions? I've had couple of those even though others have said she was hot and great. We can generally agree on their looks and performance, but we all have different taste on girls, and they have different preference on us, so my session is going to be different than yours and vice versa. So how is the bad session becomes the fault of the booker. The booker didn't call us we did, and we chose to book. Do your diligence and do your research before booking to avoid bad session, unless you want to TOFTT. Even then there is no 100% guarantee.

    Lack of quality? That happened at everywhere ever since the FOSTA Act was passed. And some agencies are really paranoid about taking in new clients and I'm frustrated just like everyone who cannot make appointments with Julie and Mona. That is the fault of mine for seeing the same ATF, instead of trying out different talent when I had the opportunity.

    Some of us have vented frustration on The Palace, and I'm sure they are all legit and valid, but this is the current climate that we're in post FOSTA, and we just have to wade through more carefully in choosing. It's been less exciting to monger these days, but I appreciate I have access to this forum and some bookers.

  10. #3745
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    Nor Cal Vs So Cal

    Quote Originally Posted by PepsiLover  [View Original Post]
    The pool of quality providers have definitely gone down compared to just a few years ago, and I really miss Gaga and Sexy Lohan. I wonder why LA market can't attract quality providers that we used to. I'm puzzled even more that the Bay Area market is at 220, where housing and standard of living is far more expensive than LA, and these providers choose to stay up there rather than down here.

    FOSTA Act has forced CV and TER to shut down, which led to disappearance of some providers, and we're frustrated that we cannot easily find solid providers. I imagine the business has gone down too since they cannot no longer advertise openly on the Internet, and less savvy mongers gave up searching in frustration.
    Yes-Gaga was an amazing looker and amazing piece of ass: My jaw dropped when she opened the door. And I don't understand why Nor Cal has so many girls and So Cal is 1/2 that amount and also more expensive. Also it seems that BBFS is more common practice in Nor Cal than here.

  11. #3744

    RE: Lack of solid providers

    Quote Originally Posted by PepsiLover  [View Original Post]
    The pool of quality providers have definitely gone down compared to just a few years ago, and I really miss Gaga and Sexy Lohan. I wonder why LA market can't attract quality providers that we used to. I'm puzzled even more that the Bay Area market is at 220, where housing and standard of living is far more expensive than LA, and these providers choose to stay up there rather than down here.

    FOSTA Act has forced CV and TER to shut down, which led to disappearance of some providers, and we're frustrated that we cannot easily find solid providers. I imagine the business has gone down too since they cannot no longer advertise openly on the Internet, and less savvy mongers gave up searching in frustration.
    Bay Area guys let providers know that they are not cool with $250 and up. Due to rising costs, providers in BA had to increase $20 which took some time for BA guys to accept. For whatever reason, LA guys think it is cool to spend higher and even give tips to providers. Bay Area have more regular clients than LA (they prefer to spend less each sessions but more often) and providers feel their income is more guaranteed there vs LA hence more providers in BA than LA. Also, many providers don't like guys demanding BB in LA.

    The scene is so bad even J* girls use fake pics and many are 40 plus old hags now. I am more into young FOBs from Korea than 40 plus years old local girls.

  12. #3743
    Quote Originally Posted by LlewynDavis  [View Original Post]
    Anyone seen Stella recently? She was my go to but didn't hear back when I texted for the first time in a while. It was the number listed on Emonkey ending in 6481.
    Stella on vacay.

  13. #3742

    Lack of Solid Providers.

    The pool of quality providers have definitely gone down compared to just a few years ago, and I really miss Gaga and Sexy Lohan. I wonder why LA market can't attract quality providers that we used to. I'm puzzled even more that the Bay Area market is at 220, where housing and standard of living is far more expensive than LA, and these providers choose to stay up there rather than down here.

    FOSTA Act has forced CV and TER to shut down, which led to disappearance of some providers, and we're frustrated that we cannot easily find solid providers. I imagine the business has gone down too since they cannot no longer advertise openly on the Internet, and less savvy mongers gave up searching in frustration.

  14. #3741

    Approaching the agencies

    Hey guys, how should you first approach a K-agency? I've been trying to get in a few for a while but all my texts are ignored. I have several references including Sweetasiangem and Namu (new booker), but never hear back. Maybe there's some kind of protocol when contacting them?

    A few of the independent providers replied, but non of the bigger ones so far, except for SAG. I do have a Hx acc but only with 3 people network, so I only use it if they ask for.

    Thanks for your FB!

  15. #3740

    Need sum info

    Is Rebecca booked through M? Just got a text that she is on vacation this week.

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