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  1. #23525
    Quote Originally Posted by BenderOver  [View Original Post]
    I've been cancelled on twice, while waiting parked in front of the apartment. First time was due to accidental double booking. The second time was due to provider not showing up for work. Different girl both times. All I got was a "sorry". Wasn't even offered a discount for a different girl or future visit.
    At least you got a "sorry". LOL. There were instances I wasn't even offered a sorry, just the other available girls.

    The degree of power orgs and bookers wied in this biz is starting to get ridiculous. Cancelation fees when canceling more than 24 hrs? Yet we don't even get a sorry when we get canceled on? LOL assymetric as fuck. We have to provide real selfies, but on the other side it's fake pic galore.

    These bookers / orgs are on a power trip with this bullshit.

  2. #23524

    Can't be overstated

    I've been on both sides of a cancellation and have realized this is simply par for the course.

    It can't be overstated that this is the underworld; a place where people make and brake their own rules for a living.

    Complaining to the BBB or writing a shitty Yelp review only means it time to find a new hobby.

    If the universe owes you nothing, the underworld even less so.

  3. #23523
    Quote Originally Posted by Shijia  [View Original Post]
    On the topic of getting banned. Do we get unbanned? If yes, for how long are we banned before letting is book again?
    This isn't some school or government organization that has rules and set penalties for certain violations. Maybe the Booker was having a bad day and was in a bad mood. Maybe it was some response from you (I've seen guys leave out details from their stories because they don't want to admit any perceived bad behavior on their part). You can try again or try to apologize and get back in their good graces.

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  5. #23522
    Quote Originally Posted by NintyNine  [View Original Post]
    Cancellation fee is penny wise, pound foolish.

    Unless you're a repeat offender, cancellation or blacklist is a stupid policy.
    Become a booker and I guarantee you won't say that.

  6. #23521
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack926  [View Original Post]
    I think cancellation within 24 hours should be allowed without any penalty for both sides. I had an appointment in MW and drove all the way to get there and I was told that water heater is broken and the girl can't see me. I fricking confirmed at 8:30 AM that day and my appointment was at 11:00 AM and same booker lost her shit with me after I cancelled on her with more than 24 hours notice. How many times have I visited that booker ladies? In the past 6 months, I have visited eleven times and I had two cancellations and both were with more than 24 hours notice.

    Some Bookers are pissy these days because their business is slow. If they had guys lined up, they would not give a shit if you cancel at last minute.
    It's not as slow as we may think. Some bookers have girls who are busy all day and they don't want last minute cancellations which, regardless of how busy they may be, still don't want to throw away $300. I'm sure they view each cancellation on its own merit but if you're pre booking and object then maybe you shouldn't prebook.

  7. #23520
    Quote Originally Posted by Majieroero  [View Original Post]
    The agencies are the ones providing the business so they set the rules, but they should consider a balance of power within that business too. It seems one-sided and deterring when they get to charge cancellation fees for mongers cancelling, but also have the ability to flake out on the mongers consequence free when the bookers screw up. I get the rationale behind the cancellation fees and I'm sure plenty of mongers have been shitty towards them about it, but they should acknowledge their faults as well and come up with a system that feels somewhat fair for both sides. If a booker offers discounts for their f up, I'm sure mongers would feel more willing to pay for their cancellation as well. Otherwise they're just going to fall into a cycle of losing businesses, which only amplifies the loss from that cancellation in the first place.

    At the end of the day though, none of these bookers are actual business professionals. They're just retired provider turned mama-sans that probably never had any other opportunities outside of providing as they got too old to provide. I doubt any of them are actually educated about business practices. I'm usually very careful with my booking and try to minimize any interactions with the people on the other side of the phone screen because they're generally very unpleasant, overly dramatic, and unreasonable human beings that I want no part of.
    I know from my years of experience in the K-girl world the reverse has also been true. There have been times where an appointment was cancelled last minute due to a girl not feeling well or maybe a plumbing problem that required workers to enter the apartment. In the cases I'm familiar with there were steps taken to mollify the disgruntled or disappointed monger such as the offer of another girl or, as mentioned, a discount for a future appointment. They are not stupid or heartless and understand that these things sometimes work both ways. In my experience the hard line is usually taken with those who they find to be somewhat of a pain in the ass.

  8. #23519
    Quote Originally Posted by Majieroero  [View Original Post]
    The agencies are the ones providing the business so they set the rules, but they should consider a balance of power within that business too. It seems one-sided and deterring when they get to charge cancellation fees for mongers cancelling, but also have the ability to flake out on the mongers consequence free when the bookers screw up. I get the rationale behind the cancellation fees and I'm sure plenty of mongers have been shitty towards them about it, but they should acknowledge their faults as well and come up with a system that feels somewhat fair for both sides. If a booker offers discounts for their f up, I'm sure mongers would feel more willing to pay for their cancellation as well. Otherwise they're just going to fall into a cycle of losing businesses, which only amplifies the loss from that cancellation in the first place.

    At the end of the day though, none of these bookers are actual business professionals. They're just retired provider turned mama-sans that probably never had any other opportunities outside of providing as they got too old to provide. I doubt any of them are actually educated about business practices. I'm usually very careful with my booking and try to minimize any interactions with the people on the other side of the phone screen because they're generally very unpleasant, overly dramatic, and unreasonable human beings that I want no part of.
    Totally agree. These mama-sans and the girls need us more than we need them. If you are a new customer and cancel, I can understand why they would charge a cancellation fee just to warn you. But if you are a repeat customer, they have to understand that sometimes emergency does come up. You mongers who agree with the bookers are sucking up to them too much.

  9. #23518
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    Posts: 1333

    Cancellation Drama

    I think cancellation within 24 hours should be allowed without any penalty for both sides. I had an appointment in MW and drove all the way to get there and I was told that water heater is broken and the girl can't see me. I fricking confirmed at 8:30 AM that day and my appointment was at 11:00 AM and same booker lost her shit with me after I cancelled on her with more than 24 hours notice. How many times have I visited that booker ladies? In the past 6 months, I have visited eleven times and I had two cancellations and both were with more than 24 hours notice.

    Some Bookers are pissy these days because their business is slow. If they had guys lined up, they would not give a shit if you cancel at last minute.

  10. #23517
    Cancellation fee is penny wise, pound foolish.

    Unless you're a repeat offender, cancellation or blacklist is a stupid policy.

  11. #23516
    Quote Originally Posted by Member#2210  [View Original Post]
    Yep, total bs.
    Two hours just won't cut it. It's business. Yes you can cancel but you have to understand that it takes money out of the hands of the business. BS is for Business Sense.

  12. #23515

    Banned

    On the topic of getting banned. Do we get unbanned? If yes, for how long are we banned before letting is book again?

  13. #23514

    Similar experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Member#2210  [View Original Post]
    Yep, total bs.
    I cancelled one an appointment about 3 hour before the actual appointment because of an urgent situation. Booker didn't ask for personal info but told me I was banned and said some snarky remark.

  14. #23513
    Quote Originally Posted by Toungsten  [View Original Post]
    Part of the problem is the chaos that has existed in the business for the past year. This chaos has caused more cancellations than ever before. You've got to look at it this way, if you make an appointment in just about any business there is a 24 or 48 window for cancellation. Anything less than that there is a cancellation fee. If you cancel an hour or so before your appointment you leave the provider and the org without a client for that time and are costing them a total of around $300. So we have a choice. Treat it as you would any business and don't cancel or if you must just understand the cost of that cancellation, that being the hourly fee or access to that org and possibly others as well. If we want to play we got to pay.
    The agencies are the ones providing the business so they set the rules, but they should consider a balance of power within that business too. It seems one-sided and deterring when they get to charge cancellation fees for mongers cancelling, but also have the ability to flake out on the mongers consequence free when the bookers screw up. I get the rationale behind the cancellation fees and I'm sure plenty of mongers have been shitty towards them about it, but they should acknowledge their faults as well and come up with a system that feels somewhat fair for both sides. If a booker offers discounts for their f up, I'm sure mongers would feel more willing to pay for their cancellation as well. Otherwise they're just going to fall into a cycle of losing businesses, which only amplifies the loss from that cancellation in the first place.

    At the end of the day though, none of these bookers are actual business professionals. They're just retired provider turned mama-sans that probably never had any other opportunities outside of providing as they got too old to provide. I doubt any of them are actually educated about business practices. I'm usually very careful with my booking and try to minimize any interactions with the people on the other side of the phone screen because they're generally very unpleasant, overly dramatic, and unreasonable human beings that I want no part of.

  15. #23512
    Quote Originally Posted by SomeGuyCool  [View Original Post]
    A while ago I had to cancel with a booker because I had a serious personal issue come up. I felt bad about it but told the booker 2 hours before my appointment. The booker got upset and asked for some personal info detailing more why I couldn't make it. I told them I didn't feel comfortable and honestly it was my personal info. I never heard back.

    I get it that its a business but sometimes things come up.
    Yep, total bs.

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