Sugar Bowl. ILM

[JustFunCoastal]

I've only been a member once about six months ago but I found a great regular girl there that I'm still seeing. 27 years old, slim, pretty and lots of fun. I only met a handful of girls at the time because I didn't really understand the site very well but I have no doubt if I joined again, I could find 5 or 6 girls no problem.

Some things to be aware of if you decide to join:

1. If you get a girl to message you, set up a meeting asap. Don't bother with a lot of chat or getting to know you stuff. I usually just send one message and ask what she likes to do for fun and then try to set up a coffee / drinks date. Don't set up a date too far in advance or she'll likely flake. A day in advance is perfect.

2. Insist on meeting before you make an arrangement or invite her to your place / a hotel. The UTR pros will try to go straight for a "date. " If she insists on that before a drink date, pass.

3. Try to avoid money talk before the meetup but if she insists, go ahead. If she's looking for four times what you're willing to spend on a date, there's no point in a meetup anyway.

4. A lot of girls have totally unrealistic expectations for an allowance. I've had girls ask for 600 a date. I even had one ask for 2000 for one date! One girl wanted a signed contract. Some girls ask for 200 or 300 to just go to dinner and be "arm candy. " LOL. Obviously you want to pass on those.

5. Avoid a monthly allowance. You'll get most bang for your buck doing it per date anyway. And if you pay a monthly and she ghosts, you're out that money. So if she insists on a monthly, pass. If you see a girl for six months and trust her and want to start giving her a monthly, that's probably okay but never for a new girl.

6. Nothing but drink dates for the first meetup. Important. I've broken this rule a couple times and got stuck for 2 hours with a girl I knew I wasn't interested in and was out 100 or so for my troubles. Go for drinks, spend as little as possible, and bail after the first drink if she's not for you.

7. Do not give her any money before you meet! Do I have to mention this? One girl asked me for 200 before we ever met so she could buy hair supplies (she was a stylist). Hard pass on any girl who asks for even 5 bucks up front.

8. Don't be afraid to walk away. I don't care how beautiful she is. If she asks for too much money, if she makes weird demands, if you get a weird vibe from her, walk away. There are plenty of fish.

9. Don't be a dick. Most of these girls aren't pros, they're college students and single mothers. No need to play hard ass with them. As long as you stick to the rules above you don't need to anyway. If your style is to be a little cocky, that's fine but be a gentleman and treat them right. You make the community better for all of us if you treat the girls right.

10. If you strike out a lot, don't worry about. Like I said, my first time through I didn't really understand the dynamics of the site and I screwed up a lot of potential hookups. Learn from your mistakes and move on. If you don't catch any fish, wait a few months and try again. New college students come to town every day and the SA stable constantly replenishes so be patient and learn and enjoy.

Happy hunting!

Couldn't have articulated it better. Do exactly these things listed from Brannigan and your SA life will be great.

[John HandCock]

I've had my fair share of hits and misses on SA as well. Here are a couple of addendums:

I. Do not get involved with a girl who is in a relationship. It's pretty easy for those non-pros who give you their phone or email, just cross-reference on FB and you can usually figure it out. Worst case scenario you spend a lot of time and effort getting to know a girl, get the relationship started, and then poof she's gone due to her boyfriend, etc. Getting serious, that sort of thing.

II. Don't be shy about asking whether or not the girl is trans. To quote Seinfeld, "Not that there's anything wrong with that!" But if you are NOT interested in getting involved with a transexual, it's a quick and easy question along the lines of "hey, I've had this happen before, and I know people don't post real pics all the time due to personal reasons so I wanted to ask. ".

The trans question would seem ify to me. Most usually tell in profile or soon after messaging that they are trans. I personally would not contact anyone who I had a question about being woman. If your talking to a girl and you ask that question then that's going to hurt her feelings and its not going to get any better LOL. If you do a m / g and girl is not what pics featured then just walk.

[NCHobbyist69]

I've had my fair share of hits and misses on SA as well. Here are a couple of addendums:

I. Do not get involved with a girl who is in a relationship. It's pretty easy for those non-pros who give you their phone or email, just cross-reference on FB and you can usually figure it out. Worst case scenario you spend a lot of time and effort getting to know a girl, get the relationship started, and then poof she's gone due to her boyfriend, etc. Getting serious, that sort of thing.

II. Don't be shy about asking whether or not the girl is trans. To quote Seinfeld, "Not that there's anything wrong with that!" But if you are NOT interested in getting involved with a transexual, it's a quick and easy question along the lines of "hey, I've had this happen before, and I know people don't post real pics all the time due to personal reasons so I wanted to ask. ".

I've only been a member once about six months ago but I found a great regular girl there that I'm still seeing. 27 years old, slim, pretty and lots of fun. I only met a handful of girls at the time because I didn't really understand the site very well but I have no doubt if I joined again, I could find 5 or 6 girls no problem.

Some things to be aware of if you decide to join:

1. If you get a girl to message you, set up a meeting asap. Don't bother with a lot of chat or getting to know you stuff. I usually just send one message and ask what she likes to do for fun and then try to set up a coffee / drinks date. Don't set up a date too far in advance or she'll likely flake. A day in advance is perfect.

2. Insist on meeting before you make an arrangement or invite her to your place / a hotel. The UTR pros will try to go straight for a "date. " If she insists on that before a drink date, pass.

3. Try to avoid money talk before the meetup but if she insists, go ahead. If she's looking for four times what you're willing to spend on a date, there's no point in a meetup anyway.

4. A lot of girls have totally unrealistic expectations for an allowance. I've had girls ask for 600 a date. I even had one ask for 2000 for one date! One girl wanted a signed contract. Some girls ask for 200 or 300 to just go to dinner and be "arm candy. " LOL. Obviously you want to pass on those.

5. Avoid a monthly allowance. You'll get most bang for your buck doing it per date anyway. And if you pay a monthly and she ghosts, you're out that money. So if she insists on a monthly, pass. If you see a girl for six months and trust her and want to start giving her a monthly, that's probably okay but never for a new girl.

6. Nothing but drink dates for the first meetup. Important. I've broken this rule a couple times and got stuck for 2 hours with a girl I knew I wasn't interested in and was out 100 or so for my troubles. Go for drinks, spend as little as possible, and bail after the first drink if she's not for you.

7. Do not give her any money before you meet! Do I have to mention this? One girl asked me for 200 before we ever met so she could buy hair supplies (she was a stylist). Hard pass on any girl who asks for even 5 bucks up front.

8. Don't be afraid to walk away. I don't care how beautiful she is. If she asks for too much money, if she makes weird demands, if you get a weird vibe from her, walk away. There are plenty of fish.

9. Don't be a dick. Most of these girls aren't pros, they're college students and single mothers. No need to play hard ass with them. As long as you stick to the rules above you don't need to anyway. If your style is to be a little cocky, that's fine but be a gentleman and treat them right. You make the community better for all of us if you treat the girls right.

10. If you strike out a lot, don't worry about. Like I said, my first time through I didn't really understand the dynamics of the site and I screwed up a lot of potential hookups. Learn from your mistakes and move on. If you don't catch any fish, wait a few months and try again. New college students come to town every day and the SA stable constantly replenishes so be patient and learn and enjoy.

Happy hunting!

[Brannigan88]

I've only been a member once about six months ago but I found a great regular girl there that I'm still seeing. 27 years old, slim, pretty and lots of fun. I only met a handful of girls at the time because I didn't really understand the site very well but I have no doubt if I joined again, I could find 5 or 6 girls no problem.

Some things to be aware of if you decide to join:

1. If you get a girl to message you, set up a meeting asap. Don't bother with a lot of chat or getting to know you stuff. I usually just send one message and ask what she likes to do for fun and then try to set up a coffee / drinks date. Don't set up a date too far in advance or she'll likely flake. A day in advance is perfect.

2. Insist on meeting before you make an arrangement or invite her to your place / a hotel. The UTR pros will try to go straight for a "date. " If she insists on that before a drink date, pass.

3. Try to avoid money talk before the meetup but if she insists, go ahead. If she's looking for four times what you're willing to spend on a date, there's no point in a meetup anyway.

4. A lot of girls have totally unrealistic expectations for an allowance. I've had girls ask for 600 a date. I even had one ask for 2000 for one date! One girl wanted a signed contract. Some girls ask for 200 or 300 to just go to dinner and be "arm candy. " LOL. Obviously you want to pass on those.

5. Avoid a monthly allowance. You'll get most bang for your buck doing it per date anyway. And if you pay a monthly and she ghosts, you're out that money. So if she insists on a monthly, pass. If you see a girl for six months and trust her and want to start giving her a monthly, that's probably okay but never for a new girl.

6. Nothing but drink dates for the first meetup. Important. I've broken this rule a couple times and got stuck for 2 hours with a girl I knew I wasn't interested in and was out 100 or so for my troubles. Go for drinks, spend as little as possible, and bail after the first drink if she's not for you.

7. Do not give her any money before you meet! Do I have to mention this? One girl asked me for 200 before we ever met so she could buy hair supplies (she was a stylist). Hard pass on any girl who asks for even 5 bucks up front.

8. Don't be afraid to walk away. I don't care how beautiful she is. If she asks for too much money, if she makes weird demands, if you get a weird vibe from her, walk away. There are plenty of fish.

9. Don't be a dick. Most of these girls aren't pros, they're college students and single mothers. No need to play hard ass with them. As long as you stick to the rules above you don't need to anyway. If your style is to be a little cocky, that's fine but be a gentleman and treat them right. You make the community better for all of us if you treat the girls right.

10. If you strike out a lot, don't worry about. Like I said, my first time through I didn't really understand the dynamics of the site and I screwed up a lot of potential hookups. Learn from your mistakes and move on. If you don't catch any fish, wait a few months and try again. New college students come to town every day and the SA stable constantly replenishes so be patient and learn and enjoy.

Happy hunting!

[JustFunCoastal]

Feel free to PM me with full links to their profiles to see if I've chatted with them; tough to do a search on those terms you have there. For my part, I've met one SB here in ILM that was halfway decent, two others I met for coffee that I ran from due to obvious demons. Hit or miss for sure, but there seem to be a decent amount of college students on the site in the area looking for financial help. Should be some diamonds in the rough, patience is a virtue on SA.

It takes a little work on the front end, plus I insist on meeting them first before deciding to proceed, but I now have a stable of 8-9 great / cute women of varying ages and no demons. It's like fishing in a stocked barrel. Sorry but I have no way of providing details based on current SA handles. I tend to join for 30 days, make my connections, remove myself at the end of 30, and go with what I have until I need to open new doors. But, it IS worth the 30 day membership if you're willing to do the work upfront.

[NCHobbyist69]

Anyone have any experience with OLOVESYOU or DREAMMAKER (not exact profile names)? They seem to be borderline pros. Or maybe just very aggressive.

Thanks,

Feel free to PM me with full links to their profiles to see if I've chatted with them; tough to do a search on those terms you have there. For my part, I've met one SB here in ILM that was halfway decent, two others I met for coffee that I ran from due to obvious demons. Hit or miss for sure, but there seem to be a decent amount of college students on the site in the area looking for financial help. Should be some diamonds in the rough, patience is a virtue on SA.

[SkinJr]

Anyone have any experience with OLOVESYOU or DREAMMAKER (not exact profile names)? They seem to be borderline pros. Or maybe just very aggressive.

Thanks,

[Brannigan88]

Thanks for starting the thread and sharing your experience. I think it's a great idea and as I've moved slowly away from the escort world to the sugar world, I'm very interested in everyone's experience. I have a bit of SD experience myself and I will be sharing soon but I just wanted to say thanks first and that I'm excited to see where this thread goes.

Brannigan.

[ImThaGuy]

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...891&viewfull=1#post1330891 HYB (hot young baby) was coined earlier in the thread to represent these girls from 18 to 25 I also called them Nando 3's or the sportsters who are the college girls that you are naming HCB (hot college Babys) There can be a distinction between the two as I see it. But to recap my rating system:

Nando 1. Desperately poor high level of drama girls of all ages. These are the ones who call for more money because they are getting (fill in the tragedy here) tomorrow. Often these girls have kids, no baby daddy (BD) support. Or worse. A hostile or dead beat BD, and are frequently drug / alcohol addicted and can have police records. You all know them. I have met quite a few.

Nando 2. Escorts of all ages who are prospecting for biz on the sugar sites. I know quite a few of these also but it is important to identify them as escorts so your mind set can be right. You can I'd them 3 ways 1) they call you hun or babe before actually meeting you. 2) they charge by the hour and will be upfront with their rate, and 3) they will provide a room for your meet (since they already have one booked).

Nando 3-HYBs, HCBs, or a combo of several classifications. They are frequently looking for a sexual romp with NSA and some extra $$ to buy more clothes;.

4). MILFs. These are older girls (women) who are looking for support, and I have added another one;.

5) Sugar Baby. A true baby of all ages who wants a regular SD to pay them an allowance in return for fun times together. Often these girls are younger and looking for tuition help, car and house payments, mentoring for a career advancement, thrilling trips to exotic places. To name a few.

I like HCB. Because my SO, HYB, HCB love of my life is a Nando 3 and 5 combo. She is highly educated, very smart, absolutely no drama, and just a joy to be with. This is the category that I will forever play in. I hope my Baby will elect to keep me around but if things change I will be looking in that group for my next baby. For me the educated girls are so much more success driven and are usually not in desperate straits.

I'm copy / pasting as well as providing links. There is a ton of information available to learn.

I've thus far experienced one, a combination of 1, 3 and 5. She's proved to be a UTR all said and done. Initial m&g was at the FC. College classes to start a legitimate career. Wanted something longer term that could be depended on. Time together was remarkable. Right around the Nando 3 and 5 stage was how it started. Shortly thereafter has become a Nando 1. 'Tragedy' has struck a couple of times since, dramatic scenarios of woe is me, looking for the next sure thing. Won't be long, I expect to see demon-like problems for this one. The first impression has unfortunately diminished and I am not happy about it. I can't fool myself though. As good as it was, I'm just not looking for any problems of that nature to nurture, and am removing her desire to contact me very methodically. - An other, began as a true #5 and over the period of a few weeks has demonstrated consistently in such a way as to remain in this stage. Seeing and comparing to the Nando 1 among what I am seeing generally elsewhere (much UTR), I realize I may be fortunate to have stumbled upon this gem. Personally with what I am looking for, simplistic as possible, I hope this continues for a bit. - An other will just be a occasional thing when one so happens to be in the area of another at a mutually convenient time. - I've let my membership expire on SA and am just keeping some conversations in motion via text to see what happens. It is addicting I am not going to lie. I'm forcing myself to just play the hand I have for the time being. - Looking forward to a FC experience tomorrow night with my true SB.

[ImThaGuy]

A good read on cost versus value with SB's versus Pro's -.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...397&viewfull=1#post2186397.

DAMN, you guys post a lot, 7021 posts. I've RTFF. Every damn post, beginning to end! And, I'm still conflicted about the "bowl" and despite reading TFF, beginning to end, can't decide what is the better approach.

So, you guys that have resolved all my conundra. A little specific advice will be appreciated. Post or PM, as you prefer.

A few specifics. I live in Alaska, several hours outside Anchorage. But we do have a community college. However, my preferences lean toward 30-somethings or 40-somethings rather than the 20's. I find the former more reliable and a bit less dramatic.

I've appreciated especially all the good advice from Revvo, HollywoodGuy, FScott, FredMoore, SubCmdr, & BigTigger (in no particular order of importance). Some of you are out of my league, while some of you seem to have characteristics similar to mine.

I'm married (with NO relationship with the "boss" - I know, why not divorce. But the "group therapy" on this forum addresses that. Good discussions, guys), and in a small town, that makes things a bit more dicey. I'm a sixth-decader with a labido that defies the years. Hence the time spent on research.

I've got four regular escorts, each of whom qualifies (equally, although for different reasons) as an ATF. They range in price from down-right unbelievably inexpensive (25 per) to barely affordable for me (per). On average, I'd say I spend about $$ per.

My escort experience is damn good (in regard to quality and GFE experience. What I seek), but it seems a SB would offer the likelihood / prospect of more monogamous (notice the qualifier, "more") relationship. Something I'd rather have. Also, if possible, I'd like to improve the cost / per situation. The tradeoffs seem to be: escort-relatively effortless; SB-a good deal of work.

1. COST. HERE'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS. From reading the forum, I can't determine whether the cost is less, about the same or more. I note that several of you have done the escort and the SB thing. What say you about relative cost? Seems to me, many of you get SBs at $per and that would improve the cost. If the norm is $$ per, then seems to me I break even and then it all comes down to effort and availability. Higher than $$per, then I think my cost is less with escorts.

2. I know there are two specific sites that seem to command the attention of bowl-participants. SA and SD4 M. Question TWO: I've not signed up on these as I'm unwilling to put up a credit-card number and will have to get a hobby-prepaid-card if it is worth the effort. I've tried to work the CL approach, and damn that is hard work for very little reward. So, the specifics on how to work the dedicated-SB cites are a little light, and unless it's more efficient than working (or trying to work) CL, I'm not sure it's worth my effort to go get a pre-paid card and try the commercial sites. Anyone got any specifics to pass along?

3. Final question: anyone have suggestions / experience to report on the small town opportunities? My town is 3000-6000 population (depending whether you count only my town or the adjacent one 10 miles away), and 2-3 hours from the major population center - 350,000 population.

All input will be received appreciatively and evaluated carefully.

RiverGriz.

1. The game of true SD / SB is a little bit "upscale" both in terms of cost expectation and quality of women from the general escort scene. The waters are muddied quite a bit by the fact the SB scene is flooded with UTR girls and sometimes escorts, so just distinguishing between them is going to be the challenge. In theory the dollar cost PER HOUR of *companionship* (not necessarily sex) would be lower with SB if you want a hot girl on your arm, because a true SB will spend time with you without watching the clock. The girls I meet usually can't be talked out of staying all night before they even have a clue how much I will gift them. I sometimes wish they would leave after the second round of fucking so I can get a good night's sleep but it's not always that easy. If I put any sort of dollar amount on my own time, SB dating would be catastrophically expensive. Someone else wrote about that in depth here. It requires A LOT of time to do it well, and if you figure that time is something that could be spent elsewhere EARNING money, it's a phenomenally expensive hobby. There are benefits to be had in the bowl that you typically don't get from escorts, but they come with the price of your time (and if married a much higher level of risk). The whole game is a risk-reward scenario. With escorts you don't worry about paternity suits, blackmail attempts, hiding your identity, etc. But sex with a low volume girl (SB, or even UTR girl in some cases) is almost going to better than someone who has turned her pussy into an assembly line process. I think I've said this before, but I think coming into the bowl with the purpose of cost savings is a really bad move. We should be SDs because we've invested the time to fully understand the difference between being an SD and an escort client, not because we want to save a buck. With all things considered, I'm going to say escorts are far more economical in the long run.

2. The SD sites can be just as hard work as CL depending on what you're looking for, but in general they will put you in touch with girls faster. The efficiency of the process to me makes the credit card payment worthwhile, but it also comes with tradeoffs such as you will have a certain number of girls that decide whether they will even respond to you based on what you write in your profile, and it creates an online identity that is somewhat recognizable (I. E. Girls on these sites work with their friends who are also SBs to trade information about SDs, including your profile name). When you operate strictly on CL you have a higher level of anonymity, can change your introduction verbiage easily and morph with each ad you post, and do not have an online profile. Almost everyone is familiar with CL, so you stand the chance to meet someone there who has not really made a mental commitment to something like signing up for an SD site. How the actual goods are on each type of site will depend greatly on your geographic area, you might get vastly different results in your area than what you read about on this thread.

3. I would think in a smaller town you've got a more limited playing field and also less opportunity for anonymity. Your post already indicates you're aware of the bigger problem here -- the smaller the world the harder it is to stay covert. I've written about this before, but if I were married and there was alimony or asset division on the table, there is no way in hell you would catch me with an SB in a small town. Even 350,000 seems like a small world to play in as a married guy, but since it's 2-3 hours away it might be plenty safe so I'd say that market is your best bet for SBs. Escorts would be a far safer bet in a small town, they just want their hourly rate and there is no expectation for a "relationship" (some SB's idea of a relationship includes financial AND emotional support, but all the true SBs have some sort of "relationship" in mind).

So basically based on what you've told me I'd stick with escorts close to home, and if you want to dabble in the bowl go for the more populated area 2-3 hrs away.

[ImThaGuy]

A copy / paste from another thread. Helping to decipher code to see what you are getting into.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...125&viewfull=1#post1580125.

Flags.

Nice idea FScott. My contribution.

Green Flags.

Looking to be discreet = I'm married / involved or live at home. High probability of FC fun.

I'll take care of your needs = I'll have sex with you.

Just looking with help for bills = I'm low maintenance. I don't care about pampering and shopping trips. Just give me enough to cover my phone and car payment regularly.

I'm open minded = I don't care that you're married or involved. I'll take your money regardless.

I'm looking for a reliable / steady sugar daddy = I've had a bunch of one night stands and flake / fake SDs, so I'm willing to compromise on the allowance if it's reliable.

Red Flags.

I'm currently not in school and I'm looking for work = I'm going to be totally dependent on you.

I'm not an escort = I won't sleep with you. I'm an arm-candy girl only.

Pro Flags.

What donation will you give me? = I'm such a PRO that I'm not eve going to bother using Sugar-lingo.

If I'm going to stay that long, I'm going to need more = I'm used to charging by the quarter hour.

Hi Hun / Hi Honey = I'm going to call you what I call my Johns.

Let's meet! (even though I haven't seen your picture) = I'm used to meeting complete strangers sight unseen.

Are you affiliated with law enforcement = I'm on parole, so I have to be careful.

[ImThaGuy]

Here's a couple of cuties working together looking to get down to business asap. Not my thing, but also I sensed a potential bit of trouble could be lurking around the corner.

Not sure on that 100%, but with so many others to choose from, for me no sense in risking it.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...0-455ec40a051c

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...d-0cb4b5ee8f00

[ImThaGuy]

I've received a few PM's looking for more information on what Sugaring is all about. Sugaring is for those looking for something different than what is typically found advertised on backpage or craigslist.

If you want to learn more about what it is to be a successful sugar daddy and have mutually beneficial relationships with sugar babies, I recommend strongly visiting the following links and reading as much as possible. This will get you started learning more and remove any time asking questions here and waiting for answers on basic how to's.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...-Index-and-FAQ

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...ar-Daddy-Sites

In sugaring, 'success' does not come in the form of instant gratification such as could be reported while searching out companionship on BP or CL. Sugaring can be / is more about forming some type of connection between the SB and SD. The process of SD'ing usually includes messaging, emailing, sharing of pictures, determining compatibility, m&g, arrangement considerations, closing the deal and from there a continued 'relationship'. This evolution can take weeks or more complete, and then sometimes with no mutually beneficial arrangement to be had. Although as I have read during my introduction into this, when the right sugar baby comes along, it makes it all worth it. The footwork involved is considerable, especially if one is of the mind to place a value on their own time when all they are looking for is a BP experience in the first place. - Of course, as with with everything, there are exceptions to the rule. And the rules are each to their own between any two consenting adults anyway.

Considering those exceptions to the rules, I'd like to see this thread dedicated to SD's in the coastal and surrounding areas for the purpose of sharing any experiences both good and bad. In this realm of SD / SB'ing, I have discovered real sugar babies (SB's) looking for real sugar daddys (SD's), girls under the radar (UTR's) and your basic pros just using the SD / SB sites as another venue for advertising. If your truly looking for a SD / SB experience, you should be able to pick up on the UTR's and pros with little effort and just move on to other things. UTR's and pro's have most often proven to me to have the Golden P (Syndrome (GPS), although some of the more experienced SB's are not immune to this either. And some UTR's and pros are just as desperate as some you'd find on CL. For the most part though, it's college girls just looking for some help with finances from some mature guy with money some extra money willing to help out. The true SB's have no idea what a menu is or what would be placed on a menu. To ask about it would lead to confusion.

Read more into the other threads listed to see the problems that may surface with whichever SB you may encounter. Just like with anything else, use of caution when making arrangements is recommended. Surely there are concerns with those that have SO's, high profile jobs and SB's that may have demons or ulterior motives. Sharing messages prior to meeting, having an initial meet and greet in some public place to discuss specifics is good practice. This also proves advantageous to SD's when discussing what each other would like from the relationship.

Costs are generally more overall when sugaring v / s BP or CL. There is a far greater return though. There is more time spent overall getting to know each other doing whatever you both consider to be fun. If one does a BP or CL experience a couple + times a month, the cost is whatever it is and a couple or few hours have come and gone. Sugaring will cost more over the period of that same month, but one can expect a great deal more time together. The value is greater sugaring, if one is willing to invest into that for whatever reason it seems beneficial. Some tell stories of 6 SB's at a time, some just want one.

For me, I like it. I've had a m&g with 4, closed the deal with 2, 2 are very close to being closed and a considerable number of others are in the pipeline. One that is a closed deal is a current ATF (all time favorite) the other is a part time thing. Both of the close to being closed are potential (POT) ATF's. The current ATF simply has bad luck I think, but she's amazing to spend time with. The POT's have a better grip on life I think and are truly new at SB'ing. Scheduling times we are both free is the thing. - This is with less than 1 month in. It's a process. Considerable texting and messaging. Scheduling time with both parties being available is a chore. Then there's texting and talking after the deal is closed to keep things in motion and share minor niceties through the day or week.

I'd like to hear other's experiences locally. If there's a great catch looking for additional help beyond what one can afford on his own. Sharing is caring. LOL. If there's some bad SB's out there running game looking to take advantage that should be mentioned also. There's too many out there for that to be something that should be put up with. If there's known pros or whatever is good I guess.