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**Koolbeans** · 11-21-20 03:26

Originally Posted by PaytoPlay [View Original Post]

Agreed that you can find deals out there. I have a recurring sb for 2 per meet. But it is also like a needle in the haystack. It's all about your budget and tolerance for missing out. Now what I don't understand in the girls expecting 800 and up.

Yeah I've found a few willing to meet up for $$ but I want bare with CIP and they said they weren't my girl 😧.

I also had some message me out of the blue by text that they are ready to meet, but the texts arrive at odd hours in the day when I am not available. It is like trying to find a needle in the haystack. Working from home has got me bored out of my mind, but at the least the gym is open. I'll have to attempt approaching the ladies always working on their glutes. 😜.

I did go on escortbabylon and met a young 22 yr from Vegas for $. 6 hhr that had the softest skin, butt and nice Ds, but she freaked out when I started licking on her nipples. It was still a decent experience since she was so soft, but need more intimacy. One SB said she offers covered sex, kissing, but no BJ for $$$ for hour ppm. I'll keep looking for that bare CIP, blow my mind sex. Happy hunting bros no stay safe!

**FarFarAway** · 11-20-20 20:16

Originally Posted by PussyPumper [View Original Post]

IMHO there are several factors driving this.

1. There are other locations where rates appear to be much higher than here, think Silicon Valley, NYC. That gets publicity even on mainstream media, and distorts what SBs perceive to be normal.

2. SA propaganda is that the world is full of whales, and they can get hundreds for just looking pretty, let alone opening their legs. That influences SB perception. I have communicated with a fair number who seem really convinced that they just have to sit back, and 4-5 k per month will be theirs.

3. Those who need cash tend to be realistic, but a large percentage of the SBs are (I think) just chancing their arm. That is, they don't need the money (or don't seem to), and are happy to text, in the off-chance that a whale will come along. (They also think whales are more common than they really are, see 2.).

4. The FOSTA inspired death of various outlets has put up escort prices, seemingly leading to a flood of Johns into the SB world, Johns who are used to paying a lot more for very little.

About 1 - my bowl buddy moved from NYC to Nashville. He said the incredible numbers of high quality SBs in NYC made competition fierce, and prices more reasonable. He is disappointed in the smaller market of Nashville, lots of high prices.

**PussyPumper** · 11-20-20 19:59

Originally Posted by PaytoPlay [View Original Post]

Agreed that you can find deals out there. I have a recurring sb for 2 per meet. But it is also like a needle in the haystack. It's all about your budget and tolerance for missing out. Now what I don't understand in the girls expecting 800 and up.

IMHO there are several factors driving this.

1. There are other locations where rates appear to be much higher than here, think Silicon Valley, NYC. That gets publicity even on mainstream media, and distorts what SBs perceive to be normal.

2. SA propaganda is that the world is full of whales, and they can get hundreds for just looking pretty, let alone opening their legs. That influences SB perception. I have communicated with a fair number who seem really convinced that they just have to sit back, and 4-5 k per month will be theirs.

3. Those who need cash tend to be realistic, but a large percentage of the SBs are (I think) just chancing their arm. That is, they don't need the money (or don't seem to), and are happy to text, in the off-chance that a whale will come along. (They also think whales are more common than they really are, see 2.).

4. The FOSTA inspired death of various outlets has put up escort prices, seemingly leading to a flood of Johns into the SB world, Johns who are used to paying a lot more for very little.

**Pay to Play** · 11-20-20 19:16

Originally Posted by Waxxon [View Original Post]

Don't overpay. Most of the so called "sb's" / semi-pros / pros on SA will agree to 3-400, and with some effort and game on your part you can do better. There are lots of options, whether it's a true sb vs all the pros now on site is the difference. Was in contact with one recently, https://www.seeking.com/member/889fb...a-a7c4a1c070f0 asking for 500 ppm. Thats way more than my usual and she immediately comes down to 4. Without too much difficulty it now drops to 250 if I get a hotel near her or it goes up to 3 if she has to drive to my place. Getting a room is not my preference since I have no problems using my own place and still having success at 2-250 Ended up not closing the deal for now, may revisit in the future.

Agreed that you can find deals out there. I have a recurring sb for 2 per meet. But it is also like a needle in the haystack. It's all about your budget and tolerance for missing out. Now what I don't understand in the girls expecting 800 and up.

**FarFarAway** · 11-20-20 17:06

IDK what magic you guys have. Perhaps it is that I am on a Mac. I can get Tor to work, but it is very slow. For Epic, I still have the experience that the log in appears to succeed, but the darn thing just sits there and grinds and grinds, never opening the home page.

**KingBaby** · 11-20-20 15:53

Originally Posted by Koolbeans [View Original Post]

Yeah been running into a lot of scammers and probably dudes in foreign countries sending professional photos. Most of the young women I've met have nose rings like cattle, not sure what that is all about, but I still haven't found the ideal arrangement. The pornstar Datz gave me a crazy story that had used to get $6,500 per month allowance but will give me a deal at $800 ppm. I guess that is her BF special for being so handsome 😧 I told her my ideal arrangement is $300 and we parted ways.

I'm considering going across the border as the women are more realistic about bedroom gymnastics, but they might have a worse issue with COVID than here in the states. At least the pros offer their services and have incalls. The funny thing is that the SA women will text you, but then will take their time to respond with M&G scheduling or totally ghost you. I guess it is all a part of the sugar game. Like they say no money no honey. I'm going to spend the money and get some tattoos. Hopefully you're having better luck on SA.

I agree. It took me a while to get used to the fact that they'll reply whenever they feel like. It is just a part of the game & we'll just have to hit it at the right time. It has happened so many times that when I was free, they weren't interested. Then situation changed, I was caught up with work and other stuff, then out of nowhere, they want to meet up & I wasn't available.

Interestingly, I see they tend to be more eager to meet up & have fun at the end of the month, when rents are due.

**AdventureLyf** · 11-20-20 10:50

I'm in Sa on epic right now.

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

You wouldn't want to use both. Tor should be sufficient. It is effectively a super VPN. You can't, however, use that on SA right now. I have used EPIC in the past, which has one built-in VPN, but it does not work either.

Respect to the MAC address, that you can change. There are apps to do this. As others have stated, there are ways to 'fingerprint' a user based on stuff like browser window size, etc. So change that up too. Don't use the defaults on your machine.

**PussyPumper** · 11-20-20 02:54

Originally Posted by Koolbeans [View Original Post]

The pornstar Datz gave me a crazy story that had used to get $6,500 per month allowance but will give me a deal at $800 ppm. I guess that is her BF special for being so handsome 😧 I told her my ideal arrangement is $300 and we parted ways.

Sounds like Datz all right. That is her initial ask. But at least one gentlemen on here mentioned having her for less than your offer.

**Waxxon** · 11-20-20 02:16

Originally Posted by PaytoPlay [View Original Post]

I agree. There are plenty of fish in this sea. I can easily find a new girl every week in San Diego. You just have to be willing to pay 3-4 is what I consider the sweet spot. Have a place to meet or be willing to get a room and meet soon. I have had better results with a quick trigger then to try to schedule s something later. To often they will second guess and flake. And as I have said before, you have to have a little game.

Don't overpay. Most of the so called "sb's" / semi-pros / pros on SA will agree to 3-400, and with some effort and game on your part you can do better. There are lots of options, whether it's a true sb vs all the pros now on site is the difference. Was in contact with one recently, https://www.seeking.com/member/889fb...a-a7c4a1c070f0 asking for 500 ppm. Thats way more than my usual and she immediately comes down to 4. Without too much difficulty it now drops to 250 if I get a hotel near her or it goes up to 3 if she has to drive to my place. Getting a room is not my preference since I have no problems using my own place and still having success at 2-250 Ended up not closing the deal for now, may revisit in the future.

**PussyPumper** · 11-19-20 20:21

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

You wouldn't want to use both. Tor should be sufficient. It is effectively a super VPN. You can't, however, use that on SA right now.

I am logged in on SA via TOR right now. They originally allowed TOR, then banned it around 2-3 years ago. At some point this year, they allowed it again.

While TOR was banned, I used the Opera browser, which has built-in free VPN, and / or ProtonVPN, which is also free.

Using these technologies, SA will not see your MAC.

**PussyPumper** · 11-19-20 20:18

Originally Posted by PaytoPlay [View Original Post]

Met up with this one earlier this week. She looks better in person then her pics and was straight forward in her approach. We started texting in the morning and set up a date for mid afternoon. She couldn't host and I didn't feel like shelling out the money for a room, so we did a car date. Nice thing about COVID is that there a plenty parking lots with limited traffic. Find a deserted corner and crawl in the back seat. Definitely got that girl next door look. She climbed on top and took the CIP.

https://www.seeking.com/member/03603...0-c7a4bf2c3b09

Must be a large car, with generous back seat. Blackout windows?

Always seemed risky to me!

**DanteHaversham** · 11-19-20 14:18

Originally Posted by PaytoPlay [View Original Post]

Met up with this one earlier this week. She looks better in person then her pics and was straight forward in her approach. We started texting in the morning and set up a date for mid afternoon. She couldn't host and I didn't feel like shelling out the money for a room, so we did a car date. Nice thing about COVID is that there a plenty parking lots with limited traffic. Find a deserted corner and crawl in the back seat. Definitely got that girl next door look. She climbed on top and took the CIP.

https://www.seeking.com/member/03603...0-c7a4bf2c3b09

What allowance did you negotiate?

**Pay to Play** · 11-19-20 11:31

Originally Posted by PussyPumper [View Original Post]

All this talk of women 5-7,000 miles away.

In places no one can visit.

Personally, I prefer a woman located within a 15 min drive!

If you can't find someone you like among the 10,000+ local women on SA, then you have a problem.

I agree. There are plenty of fish in this sea. I can easily find a new girl every week in San Diego. You just have to be willing to pay 3-4 is what I consider the sweet spot. Have a place to meet or be willing to get a room and meet soon. I have had better results with a quick trigger then to try to schedule s something later. To often they will second guess and flake. And as I have said before, you have to have a little game.

**Pay to Play** · 11-19-20 11:16

Met up with this one earlier this week. She looks better in person then her pics and was straight forward in her approach. We started texting in the morning and set up a date for mid afternoon. She couldn't host and I didn't feel like shelling out the money for a room, so we did a car date. Nice thing about COVID is that there a plenty parking lots with limited traffic. Find a deserted corner and crawl in the back seat. Definitely got that girl next door look. She climbed on top and took the CIP.

https://www.seeking.com/member/03603...0-c7a4bf2c3b09

**FarFarAway** · 11-19-20 11:09

Originally Posted by Decadentme [View Original Post]

What about if one uses TOR browser and a VPN?

You wouldn't want to use both. Tor should be sufficient. It is effectively a super VPN. You can't, however, use that on SA right now. I have used EPIC in the past, which has one built-in VPN, but it does not work either.

Respect to the MAC address, that you can change. There are apps to do this. As others have stated, there are ways to 'fingerprint' a user based on stuff like browser window size, etc. So change that up too. Don't use the defaults on your machine.