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  1. #1503
    Quote Originally Posted by PussyPumper  [View Original Post]
    You must be joking, right? If anyone wants a pro, they should go to a pro board or site, like HX. This is the sort of woman I am on SA to avoid!

    Any woman on SA who quotes by the hour / time is a pro.

    Any woman who volunteers a "menu" and prices by item is a pro.

    And then there are all the red flags in her profile.

    "abused" = damaged, or playing fake sympathy card, or both.

    "knows my worth" = GPS at least, possible pro.

    "independent "+ "traveling" = As in she is traveling around. What can that can mean for an 18 year old? Hint. Pro.

    "covid free"! Really? How would you know? How would she know? How many guys/day is she entertaining, given she is on HX??

    And to round it all off, she is pimped!
    I apologize Pussy Pumper, still new to the game and yes that makes sense I understand where you are coming from. You made really strong points and I'll take this information with great confidence for my next encounter. I have found another POT and will not discuss terms at all with her based on the feedback unless she does first. I'm going to try to take it slow, my other head has been overriding my thought process these past days.

  2. #1502

    This is Exactly the Sort of Pro Most of us are on SA to Avoid!

    Quote Originally Posted by EndlessOne  [View Original Post]
    Thank you DogBert77 for the additional insight. So gentlemen, my first potential was actually a Pro (hope I used this term correctly) after we got more into discussion during the meet and greet lunch. She indicated her mother was part of that lifestyle and that's all she really knew. Her "female cousin" has suggested the idea for her to look for a sugar type relationship. It sounded more like a pimp to me when I made a joke about her cousin being one since she kept referring to her "cousin" every time she was absent when trying to get on the phone with her. Unfortunately another user ArrogantBstrd was actually spot on, she kept calling me babe and using lip emojis when addressing me through text. She is young (18), ready to meet, can host, and does not appear to have Covid symptoms. Pictures are highly accurate and she dresses exactly as advertised. No anal, no bare, and no cum on face due to eyelashes. She accepts PPM but is looking for an allowance. If this is up your alley, then good luck gents.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/940bd...1-18bd2fb46d28
    You must be joking, right? If anyone wants a pro, they should go to a pro board or site, like HX. This is the sort of woman I am on SA to avoid!

    Any woman on SA who quotes by the hour / time is a pro.

    Any woman who volunteers a "menu" and prices by item is a pro.

    And then there are all the red flags in her profile.

    "abused" = damaged, or playing fake sympathy card, or both.

    "knows my worth" = GPS at least, possible pro.

    "independent "+ "traveling" = As in she is traveling around. What can that can mean for an 18 year old? Hint. Pro.

    "covid free"! Really? How would you know? How would she know? How many guys/day is she entertaining, given she is on HX??

    And to round it all off, she is pimped!

  3. #1501
    Quote Originally Posted by EndlessOne  [View Original Post]
    Thank you DogBert77 for the additional insight. So gentlemen, my first potential was actually a Pro (hope I used this term correctly) after we got more into discussion during the meet and greet lunch. She indicated her mother was part of that lifestyle and that's all she really knew. Her "female cousin" has suggested the idea for her to look for a sugar type relationship. It sounded more like a pimp to me when I made a joke about her cousin being one since she kept referring to her "cousin" every time she was absent when trying to get on the phone with her. Unfortunately another user ArrogantBstrd was actually spot on, she kept calling me babe and using lip emojis when addressing me through text. She is young (18), ready to meet, can host, and does not appear to have Covid symptoms. Pictures are highly accurate and she dresses exactly as advertised. No anal, no bare, and no cum on face due to eyelashes. She accepts PPM but is looking for an allowance. If this is up your alley, then good luck gents.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/940bd...1-18bd2fb46d28
    NewHobby, I think you will have many recurrences of this experience. If you ask a girl for a menu and prices, you are only ever going to get a girl who has a menu. In other words, some variety of a pro, semi-pro, UTR, etc. My way takes more time, but it allows you to find the true gems and get the best possible service from them. The results have been worth the effort for me. I realize this is a minority view, just my two cents.

  4. #1500

    Definitely a pro

    She has definitely gone "pro". Looks like she has just started but she can still be found other places outside of SA. I messaged on another site and she definitely uses the typical terms (I. E. Babe).

    https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/Scarlett_angel

    Quote Originally Posted by EndlessOne  [View Original Post]
    Thank you DogBert77 for the additional insight. So gentlemen, my first potential was actually a Pro (hope I used this term correctly) after we got more into discussion during the meet and greet lunch. She indicated her mother was part of that lifestyle and that's all she really knew. Her "female cousin" has suggested the idea for her to look for a sugar type relationship. It sounded more like a pimp to me when I made a joke about her cousin being one since she kept referring to her "cousin" every time she was absent when trying to get on the phone with her. Unfortunately another user ArrogantBstrd was actually spot on, she kept calling me babe and using lip emojis when addressing me through text. She is young (18), ready to meet, can host, and does not appear to have Covid symptoms. Pictures are highly accurate and she dresses exactly as advertised. No anal, no bare, and no cum on face due to eyelashes. She accepts PPM but is looking for an allowance. If this is up your alley, then good luck gents.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/940bd...1-18bd2fb46d28

  5. #1499
    Thank you DogBert77 for the additional insight. So gentlemen, my first potential was actually a Pro (hope I used this term correctly) after we got more into discussion during the meet and greet lunch. She indicated her mother was part of that lifestyle and that's all she really knew. Her "female cousin" has suggested the idea for her to look for a sugar type relationship. It sounded more like a pimp to me when I made a joke about her cousin being one since she kept referring to her "cousin" every time she was absent when trying to get on the phone with her. Unfortunately another user ArrogantBstrd was actually spot on, she kept calling me babe and using lip emojis when addressing me through text. She is young (18), ready to meet, can host, and does not appear to have Covid symptoms. Pictures are highly accurate and she dresses exactly as advertised. No anal, no bare, and no cum on face due to eyelashes. She accepts PPM but is looking for an allowance. If this is up your alley, then good luck gents.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/940bd...1-18bd2fb46d28

    Quote Originally Posted by DogBert77  [View Original Post]
    On the first question, I have a different take on this than most guys on here. I never negotiate "yes / no's when playing doctor. " I treat it like a date, or at least like a date in the old days before everyone got so politically correct. Treat them nice, don't talk about sex overtly, just get her to the FC and gradually escalate the action. I have not met a girl on SA yet that would not allow DFK and DATY. Only a couple that insisted on covered blow job (interestingly, one of those was OK with BBFS, she just had some sort of phobia about bare dick in her mouth!) Lots of girls want a cover for FS, but lots of others are OK with BBFS. I just go after what I want, and if they have limits it's up to them to speak up. Personally, I think a lot of them have a hard time speaking up in the heat of the moment when they are naked and have a horny male coming after them. I think a lot of those girls would have an easier time setting limits if you asked them what they were comfortable with before the clothes came off. So why give them the opportunity? You know what you want, go after it. I have found SA girls surprisingly compliant. Never give them any money until you have fucked them. It's kind of like tipping a waitress after the meal, it incentivizes them to provide good service. I actually try to avoid talking about any specific amount of money before hand at all. You would be surprised how many of these girls will let you fuck them first and then just slip something in their purse. I know I am surprised every time that works, but it works pretty often. There is a high correlation between girls who will do this and girls who don't act like pros in bed, so I am always looking for them.

    On the second question, about law enforcement, I think I am with the majority here in believing you really have nothing to worry about. LE has bigger fish to fry. If you are a little bit discreet in your communications they really have no evidence on you.

    And if you follow my favorite M. O. , I don't think you are actually doing anything illegal. Meet them for lunch or a drink. Hit on them. Make some general references about how you can take them places and help them out, no dollar signs attached. Suggest you go to a hotel. They know what is going to happen at the hotel, you don't have to draw them a picture. I like to bring a bottle of wine and chat for a while at the hotel to put them at ease. Then start making out, and escalate. Take her clothes off. Put her through the paces any way you please. Slip cash in her purse afterward. What laws have I broken, your honor?

  6. #1498
    Quote Originally Posted by EndlessOne  [View Original Post]
    Are there any tips one can give for a noob such as myself? Do we have to negotiate yes / no's when playing doctor? Would it be appropriate to fondle each other to ensure the other is not from law enforcement before moving forward to the final destination? I
    On the first question, I have a different take on this than most guys on here. I never negotiate "yes / no's when playing doctor. " I treat it like a date, or at least like a date in the old days before everyone got so politically correct. Treat them nice, don't talk about sex overtly, just get her to the FC and gradually escalate the action. I have not met a girl on SA yet that would not allow DFK and DATY. Only a couple that insisted on covered blow job (interestingly, one of those was OK with BBFS, she just had some sort of phobia about bare dick in her mouth!) Lots of girls want a cover for FS, but lots of others are OK with BBFS. I just go after what I want, and if they have limits it's up to them to speak up. Personally, I think a lot of them have a hard time speaking up in the heat of the moment when they are naked and have a horny male coming after them. I think a lot of those girls would have an easier time setting limits if you asked them what they were comfortable with before the clothes came off. So why give them the opportunity? You know what you want, go after it. I have found SA girls surprisingly compliant. Never give them any money until you have fucked them. It's kind of like tipping a waitress after the meal, it incentivizes them to provide good service. I actually try to avoid talking about any specific amount of money before hand at all. You would be surprised how many of these girls will let you fuck them first and then just slip something in their purse. I know I am surprised every time that works, but it works pretty often. There is a high correlation between girls who will do this and girls who don't act like pros in bed, so I am always looking for them.

    On the second question, about law enforcement, I think I am with the majority here in believing you really have nothing to worry about. LE has bigger fish to fry. If you are a little bit discreet in your communications they really have no evidence on you.

    And if you follow my favorite M. O. , I don't think you are actually doing anything illegal. Meet them for lunch or a drink. Hit on them. Make some general references about how you can take them places and help them out, no dollar signs attached. Suggest you go to a hotel. They know what is going to happen at the hotel, you don't have to draw them a picture. I like to bring a bottle of wine and chat for a while at the hotel to put them at ease. Then start making out, and escalate. Take her clothes off. Put her through the paces any way you please. Slip cash in her purse afterward. What laws have I broken, your honor?

  7. #1497
    Quote Originally Posted by Waxxon  [View Original Post]
    Bump of one of my old posts.
    I always negotiate for 200-250 range. We have to pay almost 100 for the room on the top of the ppm.

  8. #1496

    I Would Not consider 400 a bargain

    Bump of one of my old posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Waxxon  [View Original Post]
    To clarify here, 200-300 seems to work well. I've had quite a few sb's happy with 200-250, more will accept 300, most 400, nearly all at 500. GPS is a problem, SD's need to learn how to negotiate or move on. There are plenty of sb's out there happy with 100+ per hour.

  9. #1495
    Quote Originally Posted by EndlessOne  [View Original Post]
    Hi Gents. I'm a lurker here so excuse my poor post count. I believe I have indeed secured a potential baby. She was quick to give me her IG which gave me the ability to reverse search and find her Twitter account (uses the same username for shame) and find her actual name which then lead me to her personal Facebook. I'm not a creep but with the line of work I do it's just so easy to find information on anyone these days! And it's obviously better to vet the person I will be giving my time to. I have a meet and greet with her this Friday and I have already bargained a PPM. Four Benjamins each. Are there any tips one can give for a noob such as myself? Do we have to negotiate yes / no's when playing doctor? Would it be appropriate to fondle each other to ensure the other is not from law enforcement before moving forward to the final destination? I plan to sugar this one for awhile at least and she indicates I would be her first however can't say you can trust the word of mouth these days. I seek the advise from the masters of this game, please bless me with your grand wisdom and I will post the account in due time if all goes well and any other potential SBs I have encountered.
    A real, genuine SB is like having a GF that only sees you on good days. No emotional, petty arguments or any of the BS that comes along with trying to maintain a relationship. Use your own intuition to determine your relationship. I've had a few "PPM" arrangements where I only really paid every other meet.

    As for PPM or any other arrangement, everything should be discussed first. Bare? Covered? CIM? There should be no surprises. They want $$. Some really just want to get fucked. LOL.

    Oh, and if they call you "babe" or "hun" and use lip emojis, they're likely pros.

    Good Luck!

  10. #1494
    Quote Originally Posted by EndlessOne  [View Original Post]
    So I've had some interesting conversations. I decided to bite to see what the craze was with this online exclusive arrangement that all these women mention on this site. I let them give the pitch and gave them my honest answer and look at the backlash. This sweet human being right here wanting my money turned into some person taunting me to slob on their knob like corn on the cob! Steer away gents! See the conversation of the disturbing creature in it's native environment.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/f4fa7...f-cdc436ae6ef8
    LOL.

    Too bad she's gone, maybe got deleted or blocked. Either way, great troll man .

  11. #1493

    A little gps

    Quote Originally Posted by PussyPumper  [View Original Post]
    Very pretty girl, pleasant, she delivers. Not the cheapest, but not outrageous either. Been mentioned several times on here.
    This girl is kind of hot but has a little gps. She initially wanted 6 Benz but got her down to 4 Benz. She says that's the lowest for covered everything. I remembered someone said she accepted 350 before but not sure.

  12. #1492
    Quote Originally Posted by EndlessOne  [View Original Post]
    Hi Gents. I'm a lurker here so excuse my poor post count. I believe I have indeed secured a potential baby. She was quick to give me her IG which gave me the ability to reverse search and find her Twitter account (uses the same username for shame) and find her actual name which then lead me to her personal Facebook. I'm not a creep but with the line of work I do it's just so easy to find information on anyone these days! And it's obviously better to vet the person I will be giving my time to. I have a meet and greet with her this Friday and I have already bargained a PPM. Four Benjamins each. Are there any tips one can give for a noob such as myself? Do we have to negotiate yes / no's when playing doctor? Would it be appropriate to fondle each other to ensure the other is not from law enforcement before moving forward to the final destination? I plan to sugar this one for awhile at least and she indicates I would be her first however can't say you can trust the word of mouth these days. I seek the advise from the masters of this game, please bless me with your grand wisdom and I will post the account in due time if all goes well and any other potential SBs I have encountered
    You need to spend all your time between now and the meeting reading the Richmond, VA, sugar thread, and the archive thereof. That is the de facto national thread, it isn't just limited to local info.

  13. #1491

    Text Exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by EndlessOne  [View Original Post]
    So I've had some interesting conversations. I decided to bite to see what the craze was with this online exclusive arrangement that all these women mention on this site. I let them give the pitch and gave them my honest answer and look at the backlash. This sweet human being right here wanting my money turned into some person taunting me to slob on their knob like corn on the cob! Steer away gents! See the conversation of the disturbing creature in it's native environment.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/f4fa7...f-cdc436ae6ef8
    That's hilarious.

  14. #1490

    Steer clear from this online-only arrangement seeker.

    So I've had some interesting conversations. I decided to bite to see what the craze was with this online exclusive arrangement that all these women mention on this site. I let them give the pitch and gave them my honest answer and look at the backlash. This sweet human being right here wanting my money turned into some person taunting me to slob on their knob like corn on the cob! Steer away gents! See the conversation of the disturbing creature in it's native environment.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/f4fa7...f-cdc436ae6ef8
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  15. #1489

    Became a Premium Member on Seeking Arrangements. Found a potential SB!

    Hi Gents. I'm a lurker here so excuse my poor post count. I believe I have indeed secured a potential baby. She was quick to give me her IG which gave me the ability to reverse search and find her Twitter account (uses the same username for shame) and find her actual name which then lead me to her personal Facebook. I'm not a creep but with the line of work I do it's just so easy to find information on anyone these days! And it's obviously better to vet the person I will be giving my time to. I have a meet and greet with her this Friday and I have already bargained a PPM. Four Benjamins each. Are there any tips one can give for a noob such as myself? Do we have to negotiate yes / no's when playing doctor? Would it be appropriate to fondle each other to ensure the other is not from law enforcement before moving forward to the final destination? I plan to sugar this one for awhile at least and she indicates I would be her first however can't say you can trust the word of mouth these days. I seek the advise from the masters of this game, please bless me with your grand wisdom and I will post the account in due time if all goes well and any other potential SBs I have encountered.

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