Seeking Arrangements

[DreplyNow]

No. No we shouldn't, unless someone is trying to be a Helper for some odd reason. As soon as that #3 happened, I would have said "let's meet in person / at a hotel" to get you the money for your dad. Or I would have stopped talking. I'm not on the site to date or send money virtually. I'm there to preferably set up a PPM where I'm leaving satisfied. I'm not sending money virtually to someone I haven't met before. Even if they have credible social media and if they turn out to actually be the true person in the pics. Everyday people can be scammers too.

Thanks bro. Yea, I know I messed up. But I do know that others have even being sucked in too. Another woman below, she just did a video vibe for all to see. "Someone" had bought her a GIFT using the Gifts feature on seeking. Here's the problem, from what I understand, the receiver of the Gift did not even know who it came from! In her vibe, she's like, "I thank for the gift of this "Brand name" Purse - (I didn't get the exact name of it, maybe Chanel), then she says, "whoever sent it to me, thank you I love you" . She didn't even know who it came from. That's horrible.

No upfronts. No Gifts. No help. No virtual online fun.

Staying away from people who have on-going problems & headaches. No Strings means, no strings.

If they show pictures & videos willingly. Fine.

If they want to meetup in person w / no transactions. Fine.

Profile link: https://members.seeking.com/member/1...a-cdced01c84f3.

Profile name: Vieeviee.

[Kenankel]

Profile: https://members.seeking.com/member/a...2-8570472a38ad.

Profile Name: Salemthe09.

So the question to you all is: Should We Be "Helpers" in any circumstance before meeting, during the acquaintanceship, or even after that first date?

No. No we shouldn't, unless someone is trying to be a Helper for some odd reason. As soon as that #3 happened, I would have said "let's meet in person / at a hotel" to get you the money for your dad. Or I would have stopped talking. I'm not on the site to date or send money virtually. I'm there to preferably set up a PPM where I'm leaving satisfied. I'm not sending money virtually to someone I haven't met before. Even if they have credible social media and if they turn out to actually be the true person in the pics. Everyday people can be scammers too.

[Syedna]

I've been on Seeking for a few years now and it's always been difficult weeding through the fakes and everything else however, it seems worse than ever to me now. Is there anybody else seeing that or is it just me?

[DreplyNow]

Profile: https://members.seeking.com/member/a...2-8570472a38ad.

Profile Name: Salemthe09.

So, this one is a trip. I should have known better overall, (you'll learn why). So, the conversation on Seeking started about 12 days ago. She wrote back, and seemed interested.

My "partial" red flag was the limited & short answers to questions or statements. I tend to write a lot. However, from them, I often get 1 & 2-word replies or very short sentences.

I say it's a partial red flag because they aren't putting in the effort.

Then asked for my cell number. Typically, I'd prefer to get the number from them and have me a text first. Even if I have a burner number. So, then we started texting on the burner. However, she decides to give me her personal iPhone number. This was 'partial' red flag #2. The reason is that if imessage is turned on, you know when a person has actually read the message & if they are currently typing a message. I had added a "special note" under her name that I should've headed warnings too. I wrote, "has an app number, bit suspicious, talks a lot, willing to do facetime. Her current size maybe bigger than pics" LOL. So, yes, she went from one & to 2-word sentences to long-winded sentences while texting. I was okay with that. And she was willing to come up on camera & do a video chat. I was very surprised, which wiped away my "partial" red flags.

Then, someone, we started talking about scammers, and I was telling stories w / the goal of setting up a date. That's when it starts. Got to watch the lines you write to them cause they'll try & finagle their way in.

Here's how it went.

1. requested to exchange some additional recent pictures -- my goal was to see if the images matched her original. She sent videos & pictures. However, the videos didn't show her face.

2. Then I ask where she is located. The goal here is to find out how far she is from where I need her to go -- I haven't done the go to their host & have them host yet. I'm still learning about that.

3. From here, she tells me her location but then proceeds to tell me how she needs help and is stranded.

4. From there, the conversation was about her father having a brain aneurysm in the hospital. She needed money to rent a hotel near the hospital cause she didn't want to sleep in the car.

5. I said, you just met me, why are you asking me for funds like this. Why not contact your friends & family members? Basically, she says her friends are broke, & her brother is overseas in the military. All she wanted (this first time) was around $50. She then proceeded to tell me she'd be up for anything. I told her, I do not send funds before meeting people in real life.

6. I attempted to do more research. Everything started to seem legit though. I was able to find her facebook, other social media accounts through image search. Her emails, I was able to look them up & find them as well.

7. She actually showed pictures of her car, her gas tank, where she was in front of work for the job she was doing.

8. So our conversations kept going. But every day, seemed to be she was in some type of trouble. Her dad getting worse in the hospital and she ahs no guess money. Door dash was simply not paying the bills.

9. So, I went ahead & sent $50 to her. And then the asks kept coming. It was foolish & stupid I know. But I guess, we'll call it research.

10. Then after that, almost every other day, the Asks kept coming. For me, that was it. I listened, I changed the subject. Yesterday, I blatantly told her, a.) we haven't even met up, b.) this is supposed to be No Strings Attached, c.), I don't want to be apart of depressing issues & negativity. I'm here to go out & have fun.

11. Then she went crazy about she's not a business transaction, and, that "I" should care about her father of who I don't even know. Then she tries to make fun of my job, upon which she has even know idea of what I actually do, then calls me cheap. LOL, I was like yep, I'm cheap. I'm a business man. Any business man who doesn't look for the deals, the low cost avenues, will probably not be in business for long. LOL I'm not here to provide $100 just to "communicate" and text message with someone. That shit is crazy.

Oh, by the way, the pictures for her profile, seemed to not be her when she came up on cam. I will be honest, I'm not fully 100% sure, however, on cam, she was a bit disheveled, had sweatpants & shirt on & overall looked a bit thicker. The videos & pics she sent, did not show the face.

So, basically it came down to this, and this is the question I pose to everyone.

She writes to me " . You should want to "help out" if you care about me and just because you meet someone doesn't make a difference if you know them or not. No one knows anyone on the first date or even the second or third".

When I read this line, I started picking up this concept of the word / phrase: "Help Out". Can you help me out? I'm in the need of some help. I'm having a horrible day, can you help. Feeling lost, can ya help.

As of now, I think there's a category of women, who are either really down & out or may not have any income coming in or are truly dead broke or just have some major financial issues.

With that said, my belief right now is that, the site (seeking) is a Dating Site, and not a "Help Out" site. And under no circumstances should we be shelling out any cash "prior" to actually meeting.

So the question to you all is: Should We Be "Helpers" in any circumstance before meeting, during the acquaintanceship, or even after that first date?

[Member #6193]

Anyone seen this girl before?

[DreplyNow]

Makes sense to plan like that, but unless you have some idea about the odds, how do you make it financially worth it? If you need to be able to head up to the room from the bar, you ought to have booked a room already. So if the girl is a no go, you forfeit the room charges. On the other hand, if you get a room only after you determine that you are going to need it, then you pay the higher instant booking rate, ain't it? Unless, of course, if you are already staying in the casino, then I stand corrected.

The way I make it financially worth is detailed planning. First, I have enough points that I get free rooms. So, either way, I've already planned to go there. All I do in the meantime, is try & set something up w / these women. At the end of the day, as of now, I only have my travel costs. Whereas, other people may travel through multiple states. I don't do that. (I may in the future). But right now, I simply use Uber everywhere, or commuter rail to get where I need to go. I usually get there really early. To the casinos, like between 5 and 7 am.

So, in the end, YES, some may be a no show. That's fine, room is already paid for. I'm already at a place to have fun anyway. Then I either got STG as a quick fall back if necessary.

But I haven't paid for a room yet. Especially, now, Oct. & Nov. , Encore is hard to book. Right now, every week is available at the Wood.

[Joe1223]

Makes sense to plan like that, but unless you have some idea about the odds, how do you make it financially worth it? If you need to be able to head up to the room from the bar, you ought to have booked a room already. So if the girl is a no go, you forfeit the room charges. On the other hand, if you get a room only after you determine that you are going to need it, then you pay the higher instant booking rate, ain't it? Unless, of course, if you are already staying in the casino, then I stand corrected.

I typically have already had the sex discussion before actually meeting anyone. We are kidding ourselves if anyone thinks SA is a dating site however some girls will attempt to pretend that sex isn't what you are here for. You can save yourself some time by casually or directly bring it into the conversation. Being direct may not work as well because most of the girls are still trying to act like they are not sex workers. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement.

Meet for coffee first and don't expect sex on the first "date" so you won't be disappointed. If it leads to a hotel immediately than I would recommend coughing up the extra few bucks because you missed the pre booking rate. SA is not the low budget plan for getting laid. You need to invest time and more money than you were expecting. Usually the reward is a non pro experience with a hot typically younger college age girl. At least that is my preference. As many "pros" have discovered SA you may find some girls ready and willing to hook up but you can usually identify these ladies quickly and decide if they are for you.
Don’t waste your money getting a room until you have met the girl unless she agrees to meet at the hotel. Then wait until she shows up before checking in if you are not sure. Nothing is guaranteed but a quick meet and greet will save a lot of frustration.

[TheList00]

Does anyone have a new number for bookbabe out in haverhill or a snapchat. I can't get a text back lately and she sits on sugardaddymeet all day. Anyone can PM me.

[Newbie978]

I have been talking to a lady or man from Worcester county. We exchanged explicit messages and agreed to meet. However, some of the messages made me uncomfortable because there was reference to another man joining us. When I said, I don't play like that, she mentioned that we are both fucking her. Google shows that the number (413* 0252) belongs to a 56 year old man. Does any of communicate with this person?

I don't always trust what Google says when I Google a number. There is a 96 year old man that comes up when I search my number and I'm only about a third of that age. I would trust my gut on this one though, if they are that insistent on a man joining and that's not your thing then I wouldn't bother. One test you could try is to call from a different number or texting app, and see who answers or what the voicemail says.

[Mendez4]

I like doing public meets as part of the date night. For example, if public meet was at the casino, first place I'm going to is the bar where they can meet up. They can decide right then or there. After that could be dinner, or the bed room. But, I don't want to waste the time meeting publicly if nothing is planned immediately after.

Makes sense to plan like that, but unless you have some idea about the odds, how do you make it financially worth it? If you need to be able to head up to the room from the bar, you ought to have booked a room already. So if the girl is a no go, you forfeit the room charges. On the other hand, if you get a room only after you determine that you are going to need it, then you pay the higher instant booking rate, ain't it? Unless, of course, if you are already staying in the casino, then I stand corrected.

[Syedna]

Same. All good until trying to schedule then nothing.

It was probably three months ago that I saw her so, I have no idea what's up with her these days.

[Syedna]

I've seen her before.

She came to my house for 250. GFK, BBBJ, BBFS.

Pics are her.

Worth a visit.

Sorry I meant GFE not GFK.

[EmsKula]

I have been talking to a lady or man from Worcester county. We exchanged explicit messages and agreed to meet. However, some of the messages made me uncomfortable because there was reference to another man joining us. When I said, I don't play like that, she mentioned that we are both fucking her. Google shows that the number (413* 0252) belongs to a 56 year old man. Does any of communicate with this person?

[HounDog3]

She hasn't responded to my texts over the last week or so. Not sure what's up.

Same. All good until trying to schedule then nothing.

[Longjblues]

She hasn't responded to my texts over the last week or so. Not sure what's up.

I've seen her before.

She came to my house for 250. GFK, BBBJ, BBFS.

Pics are her.

Worth a visit.