The Sugar Bowl (in Greensboro & Winston-Salem)

[Hiamey]

Has anyone had any luck on Secret Benefits? I am debating on whether to purchase some credits. Any info would be greatly appreciated! Stay safe out there!

J.

I tried to PM BUT yours is full.

[DJprofessorK]

I think its because they all have some dream about the handsome sugardaddy that takes them travelling and buys them a car and and apt. When one of us regular guys message them they suspect we are broke and is a waste of their time. Probably because most of the guys messaging them are trying to give them 50 for fun. So they write us all off as broke and cheap. If the guys who want walker prices would just stick to walkers and stay off the daddy sites it would be better for the guys who will give what's needed for a baby. Remember, a baby isn't a pay per play thing. And if the pay per play girls would get off the daddy sites that would help also.

Its going to suck as long as the pros are on there and the cheap guys are too. The sites not made for that.

Just had a successful meet & greet tonight. Have another set up for Thursday. It took a bit of work, but the real girls are there.

The overall number of men who make millions, are looking on SA, and will pick that one specific girl are minuscule. Women who join SA looking for that dream are borderline crazy. The income statistics, especially in North Carolina, just don't support that being a reality for most girls. Especially if she's not super model material. I'd give it a decent chance of happening in LA, NY, ATL, San Fran, or other large metropolises that have a huge tech community. You'd still have to be a super model though. It's just not very likely in the Greensboro / High Point / W-S area, but who knows. I can't knock someone for swinging for the fences.

I'm not rich by any means, but I do okay because I struck out on my own and started my own company. I can't afford a top of the line dime piece for months on end, but I can make a nice college girl happy for an extended period of time, especially if she has reasonable expectations. And that's been my sweet spot. I've tried to tell these girls, find a nice middle / upper mgmt guy who makes between 80 k-120 k. He's got money to spend, and he's less likely to treat you like a toy or an object. It's even better if he's married and doesn't want to ruin his life or his career. He's less likely to act like a crazy person. He has too much to lose. So many of these girls are so used to making dirt retail wages, they don't realize how someone who isn't rich can have the expendable income to enjoy an SB and take her on a weekend trip or two. It's so bizarre to me that so many of these girls don't understand the power in responsible spending. And yes, even saving, to indulge in that one girl you've been eyeing.

I do, however, agree with you that SA has been overrun with some unsavory types. Scammers who coax girls into giving out their banking information and then take out loans in their names. Ruining the girls' credit. Self promoting porn stars and premium Snapchat / Instagram / pic sellers. Which SA strictly prohibits. You'll never meet these girls and they have no interest in a physical relationship with anyone. Plus the cheap guys. And even worst, the guys who have no intention of ever meeting the girls, they just message them just to message. So it turns girls off to responding to messages from regular Joe's.

A lot of these girls have been on the site for 1-3 years and have never found anything that resembles a sugar daddy. I've been with a few of them. If you're honest with them, let them ask their questions to feel safe, including meeting in a very public place, maybe even frame it as 'hey look, let's hang out a couple of times before you find your sugar daddy', they may go for it. And don't offer them a ridiculously low amount.

Thanks for the previous advice on pushing back on the 500 figure girls were giving out. I did, and everyone I spoke to came off it. 300 seems to be the sweet spot.

[DickDaDicker]

This has also been my experience. I'm the type who likes to front load drinking dates, meet with potentials, and then narrow down the ones I want to keep as connections. However, girls often cycle out when they move, get new jobs, or get into relationships. That was until this last time I joined. It's near impossible to get someone to answer 3 consecutive messages in less than 3 days. I don't want to be too hasty and call them scam or bot accounts, but SA was NOT like this before.

Good luck getting any sort of response out of the cute suburban girls. I got a discount for rejoining, but it kind of sucks now.

Anyway, I hope you gents have better luck than I am.

I think its because they all have some dream about the handsome sugardaddy that takes them travelling and buys them a car and and apt. When one of us regular guys message them they suspect we are broke and is a waste of their time. Probably because most of the guys messaging them are trying to give them 50 for fun. So they write us all off as broke and cheap. If the guys who want walker prices would just stick to walkers and stay off the daddy sites it would be better for the guys who will give what's needed for a baby. Remember, a baby isn't a pay per play thing. And if the pay per play girls would get off the daddy sites that would help also.

Its going to suck as long as the pros are on there and the cheap guys are too. The sites not made for that.

[DJprofessorK]

Messages are very short.

Often a long time between messages.

Asked to see photos she has on SA. I have been messaging her for about 3 wks now but, there hasn't been many messages. Then I finally sent her my number, and told her my subscription was about to expire, if she wanted to continue, she could message me at my number. Few days went by, and she sent a text. Finally got a photo but, the messaging has still been sorta weird.

If it's really her in the pic, she looks pretty good for 48.

She tells me she's on there for a financial beneficial reason only, and will not out her reasons why. Then she has terms. I ask for terms a few times, and she doesn't say what they are. When I quit messaging, I finally get the pic, then finally it's a P2 P type thing, and I ask what she's wanting, and she tells me, I'll let you come up with that. That's a short version of what's been going on for 3 wks.

Going to hang in for a couple more days, then I'm just going to give up on it.

Was hoping someone else had already seen her, and to see if it's worth the effort.

This has also been my experience. I'm the type who likes to front load drinking dates, meet with potentials, and then narrow down the ones I want to keep as connections. However, girls often cycle out when they move, get new jobs, or get into relationships. That was until this last time I joined. It's near impossible to get someone to answer 3 consecutive messages in less than 3 days. I don't want to be too hasty and call them scam or bot accounts, but SA was NOT like this before.

Good luck getting any sort of response out of the cute suburban girls. I got a discount for rejoining, but it kind of sucks now.

Anyway, I hope you gents have better luck than I am.

[PreAlan01]

Why do you say strange dealings LOL?

Messages are very short.

Often a long time between messages.

Asked to see photos she has on SA. I have been messaging her for about 3 wks now but, there hasn't been many messages. Then I finally sent her my number, and told her my subscription was about to expire, if she wanted to continue, she could message me at my number. Few days went by, and she sent a text. Finally got a photo but, the messaging has still been sorta weird.

If it's really her in the pic, she looks pretty good for 48.

She tells me she's on there for a financial beneficial reason only, and will not out her reasons why. Then she has terms. I ask for terms a few times, and she doesn't say what they are. When I quit messaging, I finally get the pic, then finally it's a P2 P type thing, and I ask what she's wanting, and she tells me, I'll let you come up with that. That's a short version of what's been going on for 3 wks.

Going to hang in for a couple more days, then I'm just going to give up on it.

Was hoping someone else had already seen her, and to see if it's worth the effort.

[FSmith9009]

Anybody had any dealings or talked to this one?

It's been strange to say the least. Just want to know if it's worth the hassle to continue.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b5501...9-b3255b679cb3

Why do you say strange dealings LOL?

[PreAlan01]

Anybody had any dealings or talked to this one?

It's been strange to say the least. Just want to know if it's worth the hassle to continue.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b5501...9-b3255b679cb3

[PreAlan01]

It is. 300 max. 150-200 is a good.

I agree with 300 max, and that's for the better looking girls. I've visited several for 200, and they all went well over an hour visit.

I had one quote me 1200 for one hour. Told her she was insane but, keep getting that, if you are in fact getting it.

Talk them down, or leave them hangin, and move on to the next. I've had a couple try to call my bluff and wait me out. They ended up messaging me back though. I had already deleted their messages, and moved on.

[Pubb69]

SA girl. Did a little messaging back and forth, then she hit me with her ppm plan.

Hope you all are sitting down for this one, $1200 for few hours is her quote.

Wished her all the luck in the world. This Greensboro you know.

https://www.seeking.com/member/340f8...6-d0f146c4654d

I never just wish them good luck when they ask for ridiculous rates. They already established they are willing to fuck for money but want to rake you over the coals, I usually respond with a ridiculous counter offer of half what I was going to offer. That way you wasted as much time of theirs and let's them know your not a fool.

[FSmith9009]

Doesn't live up to the name. She has a really nice body, and a real nice kitty too. She is too submissive for my liking. I know it says submissive in her bio but, she was just lay there submissive. No making out to heat things up, no oral from her at all, not much emotion. Didn't take much to get her creamy, and it was supper tight. Did a little mission work, a little cg, then finished up with some spooning, and she came real hard, the quiver type hard. Got up cleaned up, and she didn't speak much. Also had to pick her up, and take her out, then take her back. If this is what you are into, I would say she is low volume, and it would be fun for you. For me, there's no return for seconds.

https://www.seeking.com/member/83fe4...8-2027297bbc78

PM her contact info. Dude.

[Triad Traveler]

Had a girlfriend for a bit, so clearly out of respect and any potential health issues, I left the sugar bowl. Now I'm back and girls are saying that 400-500 is the going rate for a single meet on Seeking. Is it just me or does that sound ridiculous? I don't try to lowball, but I feel like I'm going to start having to. 500 is insane. You can sleep with some porn stars on tour for that. Any guidance on what's the going rate for PPM?

It is. 300 max. 150-200 is a good.

[DJprofessorK]

Had a girlfriend for a bit, so clearly out of respect and any potential health issues, I left the sugar bowl. Now I'm back and girls are saying that 400-500 is the going rate for a single meet on Seeking. Is it just me or does that sound ridiculous? I don't try to lowball, but I feel like I'm going to start having to. 500 is insane. You can sleep with some porn stars on tour for that. Any guidance on what's the going rate for PPM?

[JohnWong2265]

I wanted to update on this one. I met her last night. A little heavier than what I liked but she is very very much a good dream. Oral skills are great and is very submissive. I'm thinking she is open to some heavy BDSM stuff. She's bi. She struggled with being taken to Greek town but came fast when I was deep in her. She is a lot of fun.

Anyone know what happened to her / saw her once and then she was gone. Good time.

[SmallAsianCock]

She only wants to sell you her pics. Is not open to sex. LOL. Her kik and IG sincerely_v_2019.

https://www.seeking.com/member/c121f...a-a81d915b03a4

Chatted with her. Seems she only wants online chat and pic exchange.

[DickDaDicker]

Doesn't live up to the name. She has a really nice body, and a real nice kitty too. She is too submissive for my liking. I know it says submissive in her bio but, she was just lay there submissive. No making out to heat things up, no oral from her at all, not much emotion. Didn't take much to get her creamy, and it was supper tight. Did a little mission work, a little cg, then finished up with some spooning, and she came real hard, the quiver type hard. Got up cleaned up, and she didn't speak much. Also had to pick her up, and take her out, then take her back. If this is what you are into, I would say she is low volume, and it would be fun for you. For me, there's no return for seconds.

https://www.seeking.com/member/83fe4...8-2027297bbc78

I was one of her first daddies. She is far from low volume now. That's why I don't mess with her anymore. And she is quick to drop you or just not show if someone with more for the date hits her up that day. Has a boyfriend and lives at home so really hard to get dates arranged. Only free few days a week at her owm timeframe. Sorta a pain in the ass to deal with. But very very submissive. Like wants to take no role in making any moves at all.