Sugar Babies and Arrangements 2. 0

[SrUnderbridge]

So had an M&G with the college chick. She turned out to be really cool, a bit chunky but cute and friendly. We had a lunch and then spent while at an axe-throwing place. Since she was having to bend over a lot in her short skirt, she had to tug it down. She says "Don't want to flash you. At least not here. Time and a place for everything. " Ended up with a long hug and kissing. Got a date set for this week and things should be moving along nicely.

Got favorited by an older lady on WYP, and since I had 15 points remaining, why not. She is in her 50's, face shows the age, but nice shots of the bod and a couple of lingerie pics. Messaged her and she had just gotten off work after a drink or two. She mentioned seeing my profile and liking it, and I immediately told her it wasn't my real pic. I'm a teacher and have seen former students on there, so really, really don't want to get recognized! Sent her my real pic, she says "Nice!" and we spend the next hour sexting, with her sending nudes, BJ pics and her talking about how she really needed to suck a dick. We agreed to meet this week and the damage would have been $75. The next day she messages me in the app and says she felt deceived and I should never contact her again. WTF? I sent her my real pic within minutes of the chat starting, and she didn't start sending pics of herself until after that. Plus the sexting for almost an hour. OK, whatever. Not going to give her name here, first because I don't need the grief of her finding out I'm telling anyone this, and second, fuck her, I'm not going to give her any customers!

Finally, found a new (to me) source of p4 p. Kik. I'd used it for messaging when I don't want to give out my real name or number. It also has groups with a wide range of adult topics. There are a lot of locally based ones, with some including car play in the group name. Their search is weird, you can search the same term twice and get different results, and they don't list all matches. So what you want to do is go to the blue circle with the plus sign, and then pick Public groups. The put in your search term. I'd advise using local ones like 757, Hamptonroads, Hampton, Newport news, Virginia beach, Norfolk, Chesapeake, tidewater. It doesn't take spaces, or more than one search term. You can also get a lot of other "adult special interest" groups, so explore and have fun.

I was talking to one guy and he said this chick in a group had just broken up, and thought she might be a p4 p match. Chatted with her, and she was willing to do purely sexual meets, but she also was living out of her car, her ex was missing and from the description clinically paranoid, and she also asked more than once if anyone had some pain pills, especially dilaudid. Yeah, I think I'll pass on that bag of drama, but if you guys want her, she's kind of cute, 36 and really wants to make some money. (I asked, and no anal).

[Johnny 5]

Anyone.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...5-2c3ba2a07251

A guy eight posts down met her and said he had a good time. She's a content seller, so be aware of that.

[BumbaCloth]

Anyone.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...5-2c3ba2a07251

[BumbaCloth]

Anyone?

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...a-cb1361c73de0

[Snake27]

Maybe this story helps learn what's possible. I met Sylvia on SA back in Nov 2021. She had joined SA after breaking up with her BF. A cute 20 yo petite very sexual AA girl who was a cheerleader at a large high school and seems popular, having thousands of followers on social media. She is a cheerful, outgoing, and intelligent girl. And most importantly, reliable. Sylvia lets me come to her apartment (saves on hotels) except that we must avoid her roommate. We're at $300 ppm. Her initial offer was $450.

I've kept in touch with Kookie (my last review). At times she is warm and friendly, other times she is distant and non-communicative. She skipped several of our appointments, so that's why I gave up. But we still talk. FYI, she will answer the phone on her ad posted in October (I mentioned it in my review), but there might be a few weeks of delay, LOL. Patience is key here. But she sure is pretty.

Also, my SB from last year, Julia, continues to communicate, essentially begging for money. After a few months of that, I blocked her and she contacted me from a 2nd phone. Blocked that, then a 3rd phone. Finally, I unblocked her original phone and decided to instead learn how to say "no" graciously. But sometimes I feel sorry for her and send her a few bucks. I guess it's about $150 per month. I know, "simp". But nobody is perfect, LOL.

[GAGuy2020]

Goofy ass SB logic: I'm married and my husband is ok with this so we can't do oral or s*x.

Guy: How about some money for everything else?

Her: Ok, allows *plays with boobs* *sucks nipples* *hand to roam everywhere* and "I might allow hand jobs later". Sure "husband knows and is ok with this" LOL!

The funny part is if you get past the games, these girls tell stories about their friends who have guys and lie. From groups of navy girls to groups of college girls, full of scam guys stories who finess guys with no game to get paid to talk or listen. That s*x carrot dangles but it's never a prize for them.

They are all the girls that are "online only" or "only meet for gifts / food". If she ain't putting out, she playing you!

Too many fools settle at crying about life problems to teenages online, get help stop paying pretty girls to listen because some of them are stupid enough to think that's all they have to do. Idiots setup these girls for broken dreams when they learn guys want sex and the majority don't pay for lonely beta male chats.

[GAGuy2020]

Yup, girl is spread thin and somebody this active is a little wild. Like all girls she has a bipolar side due to her profession you see comes out after private conversation. Average girl has OF and posts on a few escort sites. She is on every page she can be, a simple name search has a list of results on over 20 sites. She likes the attention and flirts good but rarely is able to go beyond the worship me attitude. Shoot your shot if you like someone that public but don't be tricked to Simp her.

You managed to find her on that many sites and that's the red flag LOL. Link to "every came site" and AFF?.

[IHateMud]

Always got a weird vibe from her. Looked like bad skin but wears a ton of make up online and she does have a nice bod. Gets really flirty but starts to stutter when locking in plans to meet. Another red flag is she's on basically every platform from AFF, sugar sites, OF, dating sites, and every cam site you can think of.

Anybody that far out there is going to have a busy schedule, outrageous prices due to the popularity, or be all about numbers / rules not quality or not caring about you. Bet she makes more off Simps than escorting but sure she over plays the sugar sites too.

Says she is and shows she really sexual in the spotlight but seems like an online gimmick. She's kinda prude in private conversation. Sounds like a lot of work for little or a basic reward.

Seen cams and talked but never closed the deal and your fighting tons of guys to get to her. She started to get real b*tchy and comes off very entitled when she's not pandering to guys for attention / money. Maybe caught her on a bad day but anybody that active has their mental demons.

You managed to find her on that many sites and that's the red flag LOL. Link to "every came site" and AFF?.

[GAGuy2020]

Holy crap these 304's scam artist. Ti*ts out, mouth open, "I'll do anything for Daddy", then. "I'm married no sex". Platonic meals only. LOL!

Why sl*t out to just only do meal dates!? Hit a few married girls but money always finds a way to open doors for some. Hope y'all ain't letting married girls play you for time/money without s*x.

[GAGuy2020]

Always got a weird vibe from her. Looked like bad skin but wears a ton of make up online and she does have a nice bod. Gets really flirty but starts to stutter when locking in plans to meet. Another red flag is she's on basically every platform from AFF, sugar sites, OF, dating sites, and every cam site you can think of.

Anybody that far out there is going to have a busy schedule, outrageous prices due to the popularity, or be all about numbers / rules not quality or not caring about you. Bet she makes more off Simps than escorting but sure she over plays the sugar sites too.

Says she is and shows she really sexual in the spotlight but seems like an online gimmick. She's kinda prude in private conversation. Sounds like a lot of work for little or a basic reward.

Seen cams and talked but never closed the deal and your fighting tons of guys to get to her. She started to get real b*tchy and comes off very entitled when she's not pandering to guys for attention / money. Maybe caught her on a bad day but anybody that active has their mental demons.

Yes, she is the same one and she is real. She's had profiles on Seeking and SB. Its been a few months since I've seen her. We texted and met for a coffee M&G initially, then had a couple of intimate dates. She's a nice girl and was fun. I had some other personal things going on, so I didn't continue to follow up. Should have. She updates her **site regularly.

[Pkereon1]

Is she the same as Vbsunshine on SA? I was able to get her to move to texting last month, but our conversation went nowhere fast. I believe she was real, but she seemed busy or not fully invested in advancing things, so I let it go.

Yes, she is the same one and she is real. She's had profiles on Seeking and SB. Its been a few months since I've seen her. We texted and met for a coffee M&G initially, then had a couple of intimate dates. She's a nice girl and was fun. I had some other personal things going on, so I didn't continue to follow up. Should have. She updates her **site regularly.

[Johnny 5]

Secret Benefits has a lot more bots and fake posts / non-responders than previously. That said, about 10% I think as legitimate. Eg. Vbsunshine_401 is legit. Had fun with her a couple of times. She also has an * site with some hot content and I think may be seeking "talent".

Is she the same as Vbsunshine on SA? I was able to get her to move to texting last month, but our conversation went nowhere fast. I believe she was real, but she seemed busy or not fully invested in advancing things, so I let it go.

[GAGuy2020]

WYP site was crazy slow! The system seems flawed, might be cheaper than SB but looks like hoops and work. Plus what happens if you win a date with no benefits. There's no accountability and no way to talk before hand. Seems high risk. How often do girls reach out first?

Sorry you got denied but just lie about being married. Some chicks like it if they are married because ya both have a reason to keep quiet but higher risk of a girl being offended to be caught a home wrecker. LOL!

Artsy girls tend to be more woke femenists that don't care about being sexually open wild and nurses just work in a high stress field and fu*k to cope. LOL.

And the internet taketh away.

My WYP girl from our date last week has ghosted. I sent an "OK, you didn't find any chemistry, hope you find what you're looking for" message. No point in being a dick, since she at least showed up for the date and seemed to enjoy it.

On another site I got friend request from a woman not too far away who was looking for an ANR (adult nursing relationship. Aka, me sucking on titties). She was up front about wanting it to be a sugar relationship, and we got into some steamy chat. She sends me some near nudes and a full nude. Holy jumping Jesus. She had J cups and was pretty cute to boot! I said I wanted to meet up and we actually set it up for this afternoon. She even gave me her real address, even though I offered to meet at Starbucks or wherever. I was getting ready and she messages me and says she read my whole profile and just noticed I was married. Which was a no-go for her. Fuck. I was this close to getting my hands and lips on those big honking knockers! From hello to let's get together and play for pay to Ooops, sorry! In less than ten hours.

Then a bright note. Not half an hour after the cancellation, I get a like and an offer from an 18 er art student. We chat, and have something set up for next weekend. She seems cool, and we moved over to Kik where she sent a few more pics. Looks like a cute one. Again, we'll see! Jesus, the ups and downs this past week!

On a side note, has anyone else noticed how many art students and nurses / medical field women there are in the bowl? Those both seem like an over represented demographic in sugaring.

[SrUnderbridge]

And the internet taketh away.

My WYP girl from our date last week has ghosted. I sent an "OK, you didn't find any chemistry, hope you find what you're looking for" message. No point in being a dick, since she at least showed up for the date and seemed to enjoy it.

On another site I got friend request from a woman not too far away who was looking for an ANR (adult nursing relationship. Aka, me sucking on titties). She was up front about wanting it to be a sugar relationship, and we got into some steamy chat. She sends me some near nudes and a full nude. Holy jumping Jesus. She had J cups and was pretty cute to boot! I said I wanted to meet up and we actually set it up for this afternoon. She even gave me her real address, even though I offered to meet at Starbucks or wherever. I was getting ready and she messages me and says she read my whole profile and just noticed I was married. Which was a no-go for her. Fuck. I was this close to getting my hands and lips on those big honking knockers! From hello to let's get together and play for pay to Ooops, sorry! In less than ten hours.

Then a bright note. Not half an hour after the cancellation, I get a like and an offer from an 18 er art student. We chat, and have something set up for next weekend. She seems cool, and we moved over to Kik where she sent a few more pics. Looks like a cute one. Again, we'll see! Jesus, the ups and downs this past week!

On a side note, has anyone else noticed how many art students and nurses / medical field women there are in the bowl? Those both seem like an over represented demographic in sugaring.

[GAGuy2020]

There has got to be some reward or payout system because there is no reason for 304's to friend you and share sexy pics but not do at least basic conversation in weeks as they are on.

They have to be fake / guys / falsely logging in to trick people in to signing up. Girls are on every day for weeks and friend you but not a word, can't be real.

Most 304's are lazy b*tches with no motivation but this is below average with the potential to get paid. Don't care if you get 50-100 D's tossed at you a day, if you want money you respond.

One pro takes 20 message for a "sorry, one word reply" then repeats over. 3 times and no conversation just apologizes. Would say less than 10% are real and less put out or won't exploit you for money/time.