Sugar Babies and Arrangements 2. 0

[GAGuy2020]

Met some ok girl next door kind of girls but with raising hotel costs it's hard to justify $400-500 with the hotel. It's not about money but for the same or usually less we can get model level latinas hosting. More girls need to host but finding the majority live with tons of roommates. Plus if some of these girls were actually making the money they are asking for they could afford their own place. LOL.

At this point my buddy can only justify SBs because they are in 20's or new faces but plain Jane is not worth a revisit when you know better value is out there. These dumb 304's need to stop buying bags and start renting nice places, then they could earn more by hosting. But they aren't here because they're smart or good with money. LOL.

[Snake27]

If you have credits on SB, this girl is legit and very nice and intelligent. Also, quite tall. The profile looks legit -- has videos -- but I happen to know her from seeking.com where I don't have an account at the moment.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/...edb03f5221e2c3

[Espo123]

Its pretty funny to see that escorts are now making accounts in SA. Encountered 3 so far within the month, where the convo seemed way too transactional, only to find their picture and listing on EROS as well 🤣.

[AtItAgain11]

Scammer. Don't waste your time fellas hit me that let me get 30 LOL.

[VA Joe]

Hi has anyone met this SB? Is she legit? I'm meeting her tonight for dinner. Just checking to see if she is safe to meet with. Thank you.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/...b33d31db85f13c

[AtItAgain11]

Kamile wants online only and the other one Gia wants 700-1200 she crazy.

[AlBsJunk]

So have this new conspiracy theory. First off have you noticed hotels going from $100-150 to $150-250? Even lower mid level hotels trying to get $200+ on freaking weekdays! That's a huge spike but not the biggest problem of this conversation.

Starting to notice suspiciously large number of sold out hotels with no events, conferences, or meetings. That's not even the weirdest part, the weirdest part is there is almost no cars in the parking lots. Sure you see people and cars but like 1/3 or 1/4 the amount you would typically expect for a sold out huge hotel.

One theory was they were secretly hosting illegals like other cities but you don't see anyone roaming the halls or outside to support that.

It would be ok if this was a few hotels filling up but one day trying to meet up with a SB had us calling or going to nearly 10 hotels with them all being sold out. Wild! What is your theory? Could be something to do with money laundering.

They are struggling with help. Used to have a lot of illegals, but there is a big crackdown, so help is hard to find. When this happens, they block off rooms for less maintenance, then jack up the prices on the available rooms. Lower end notels just follows suit and blame it on inflation. Not a new tactic, just more extreme lately since they are given more excuses to do so. Even when the economy is great, if corporations need a higher stock value, an easy fix is to lay off employees, keep demand high but product low to jack up prices. They can make the same profit or more with a much lower labor cost.

[GAGuy2020]

So have this new conspiracy theory. First off have you noticed hotels going from $100-150 to $150-250? Even lower mid level hotels trying to get $200+ on freaking weekdays! That's a huge spike but not the biggest problem of this conversation.

Starting to notice suspiciously large number of sold out hotels with no events, conferences, or meetings. That's not even the weirdest part, the weirdest part is there is almost no cars in the parking lots. Sure you see people and cars but like 1/3 or 1/4 the amount you would typically expect for a sold out huge hotel.

One theory was they were secretly hosting illegals like other cities but you don't see anyone roaming the halls or outside to support that.

It would be ok if this was a few hotels filling up but one day trying to meet up with a SB had us calling or going to nearly 10 hotels with them all being sold out. Wild! What is your theory? Could be something to do with money laundering.

[GAGuy2020]

Met a hardcore train wreck that's worthy of a story post or exposing the scammers. Protect yourself first off because some of these users are wild and crazy. You need to use fake names, burners, use cash, and never host. Lost user name because blocked after the conversation but vent them!

Simi-skinny half Asian 304 MILF started off with a sob story about having a teen kid and needing thousands before she gets kicked out of her house. Set the expectation that she can be taken care of if she contributes with her own abilities to the arrangement. She hesitates like she doesn't know what she's here for but that also suggests that there's some stupid idiots that are giving "her" money just for a sob story. Just so you guys know most of these stories are fake.

If it's not a guy with stolen photos, it's typically a guy and his girlfriend running the scam asking for money, especially if up front. You can even go as far as FaceTiming or phone calls with the girl because she's working with her boyfriend. Don't send these girls money! If girls want money they have to be able to provide a service, not a sob story or not just acknowledging that you exist over a meal. Never pay unless you get the box first, also if a larger sum don't pay it all up front day 1.

Anyway, the base agreement had been arranged. She said she had a limited timeline of like a day or two. Then asking her to go ahead and meet today triggered some sort of bipolar breakdown where she suddenly couldn't meet over stress and can meet next week but then reinforce the story that her life is going to be in disaster if she doesn't get the money in the next 2 days. She even tried to throw out some sort of Facebook and Instagram to prove that she's real but those can just as easily be falsified. Don't sign up or friend her!

So she ended up saying no to the money that could "save her and her kids life" due to bipolar anxiety or the scammers being called out to meet in private because waiting a week does not make it "safer". LOL!

You don't want that crazy on your D or the scammers got called out when it was time to put out. Never met anybody in a true emergency that would turn down the solution, even at a smaller risk arriving. She not going to be robbed with no money, not going to be assaulted with a physical relationship on the table already, so there was no reason to say no unless a scam to get money from the guys online. Be safe boys!

[GAGuy2020]

Just finished a month long run before hitting that wall of annoyance so taking another break. Yeah it was hard to get to that one month point because the scammers, the entitle 304's trying to bleed guys dry, and pure idiots trying to act like it's a dating site just builds up too much. Ain't nobody going to date you for 2 weeks no box, especially if you're going to be asking for money day one.

It was a good run, met a cute with nice mom rack but her bigger belly and no time due to something like 3 kids was too much. Another crazy entitlement was the ones that can start talking and then stop talking mid conversation and then disappear for days at a time acting like they did nothing wrong with no warning.

If you give women choices and reward bad behavior they become privileged and entitled which does not deserve respect. Call them out on your discretion how savagely or how gently if you're still trying to hit. Had a few good moments calling out some stupid entitled 304's.

Everybody woman gets respect until they become disrespectful. They're the ones begging for money and attention online so it's up to them to be well-behaved. Well off guys are more rare than pretty girls so don't let a pretty girl treat you like trash, and definitely don't reward that behavior by giving her time or money but feel free to hit it and ghost her. Burners, pay cash, you not hosting, and fake names boys!

Met a nice 22 yo eager to please at the end but then becomes the problem of sustainability and justification. Average 304 is $100-200, average upper end 304 is $300-400, and SB is 200-400 plus $200+ hotel so $500-800 unless hosting brings it down.

It's not being cheap but smart with your money. The SB choice has the most fun experiences, almost no rules or limits, making it sound like the win but the emotional and financial upkeep adds up to almost feeling like work. Short-term fun but long-term maintenance is not something I have time for.

Plus like I said there's always more new pretty faces out there for less. Going to give the market a little time to build back up to some fresh faces.

[ShaniPie]

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...c-1446045a0373

Pics are AT LEAST 5 years old. She's much bigger in person. Much! Don't waste your time.

[ShaniPie]

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...9-5b099c82c7cf

Another one that's good to go. Those pics are are probably a bit old, she's gained a couple pounds, but nothing bad. She's got a special request when you meet up. PM for details.

[GAGuy2020]

Come on y'all! Some of you guys need to start treating the SD sites correctly because it's setting false expectations and creating b*tches who don't know how to act and are trying to use or abuse people.

First off SD sites are not a place for the "pay pig shaming" fetish. Go to fetish or kink sites if that is your thing but that culture is creating rude and entitled 304's. The behavior is unacceptable so stop rewarding it or asking for it, go to those specific slave and master sites if you want to be abused. These are for mutually beneficial arrangements not kinks.

There's another big problem with these platonic only or online only idiots being supported and reinforced. Nobody said you can't go on dates without s*x but nobody is here to be platonic. Sorry if you don't have any friends or you're that thirsty for someone to acknowledge you exist but the sites are not for making "friends only". This is also not O F where you don't meet in person so don't treat it like it plus half the time these are dudes with stolen photos or boyfriends using their girlfriends content to get to your money.

If you don't set the expectation that a physical relationship has to be on the table, you are just enabling these 304's to use men as wallets without bringing anything to the table. You are both already providing time and attention so if she wants money on top of that she needs to give something else on top of that.

Stress these are not dating sites where you have to wait 2 weeks to get to know each other before getting physical so don't fold when girls try to pull that BS. Also don't go on them looking for a wife or to pander to the girls looking for a husband that is not what these are for.

Before the typical "I can do what I want" fool steps up, know that you have spaces for abuse kinks, to make platonic friends, and meet wives. Leave the SD sites for people that want to have mutually spoiling arrangements of any length.

You don't come to SD sites to feel used but to have fun to spoil these girls and for them to spoil you back with what they have not to just acknowledge you exist or use you as a wallet. They have to put in effort too and that includes open to a physical relationship. Stressing again, these are not dating sites with dating site waiting rules.

If you're paying she's putting out, but you are more than welcome to class it up with the date out in between so she doesn't feel transactional about it and so it feels like going out with a girlfriend. That's what the sites are for!

If anybody gets hurt feelings about this, know that she's not forced to do anything so if she doesn't want to, you just don't pay if she does not play. You can buy a meal, just don't do it more than once until she steps up to the plate. After seeing dozens of girls, never had to buy anything more than I get to know you coffee. You cut the fat on these sites, you don't play games because you don't bring boyfriend energy and benefits if she doesn't bring girlfriend energy and benefits.

[GAGuy2020]

So the biggest problem is that's one of the best sites but it's also the most risky because you have no voice and they don't trust you. Some random 304 or even a scammer reports you for calling them out and they will believe idiots over you. Being rude to a scammer should not be a bannable offense . Once they get your payment they don't care about you. It's rarely that you can fight it and get reestablished.

So was able to successfully get on after a ban. It had been about a year so time could also be a factor but using the same name on the payment didn't flag anything. All other information was changed like address and a burner phone was used and a different payment card. But the first and last name on the card was the same and they didn't flag that. Can't remember if the billing address was the same but I think it was.

Problem with that site is the amount of online only time wasters and the scammers will get to you. Can't last more than a month before calling out the idiot scammers and getting flagged. On the second account, pandered to all those fukn idiots and it works for a couple weeks but then I was just too much. Flagging the scammers does nothing but you treat your scammer bad and they report you with full backing of the site. Honestly, online only should be a bannable offense. 1/2 online only are dude with stolen pics.

If you're on there that's great, walk on eggshells but it's too much work. There is second and third tier sites that are better on your stress levels in fighting scammers.

I am not currently a paying member of SA as I usually only join every 3-4 months. But I notice lately that no matter how many profiles I look at, that very few look at mine. First of all, I'm listed as married, I have no photo. But I believe the real issue is my age, as it's now listed over 70. I have been a member for going on 8 years, so I was obviously younger when I created my profile. I tried to change the date of birth, but iit cannot be done online. You have to contact SA, which I did. While they said that they have a problem if you want to change it 10 years, they implied that less than that would not be an issue. But I had to give them the birthdate of when I registered and the new birthdate that I want. Unfortunately, the original date I gave was wrong as I didn't remember what I had used almost 8 years ago. Now they have given me 2 choices. Give them the correct date, which I don't know, or send them an ID showing it's me. I will not do that, so I'm sure in a day or 2 my account will be locked.

What does it take to create a new profile today? Do they require any ID? Do I need to use a VPN to register? I know I need another email, but that's not a problem.

Anyone who has had to create a new profile, please advise on what I should do as I won't do anything until an expert advises me. Thank you.

[Passport4]

I am not currently a paying member of SA as I usually only join every 3-4 months. But I notice lately that no matter how many profiles I look at, that very few look at mine. First of all, I'm listed as married, I have no photo. But I believe the real issue is my age, as it's now listed over 70. I have been a member for going on 8 years, so I was obviously younger when I created my profile. I tried to change the date of birth, but iit cannot be done online. You have to contact SA, which I did. While they said that they have a problem if you want to change it 10 years, they implied that less than that would not be an issue. But I had to give them the birthdate of when I registered and the new birthdate that I want. Unfortunately, the original date I gave was wrong as I didn't remember what I had used almost 8 years ago. Now they have given me 2 choices. Give them the correct date, which I don't know, or send them an ID showing it's me. I will not do that, so I'm sure in a day or 2 my account will be locked.

What does it take to create a new profile today? Do they require any ID? Do I need to use a VPN to register? I know I need another email, but that's not a problem.

Anyone who has had to create a new profile, please advise on what I should do as I won't do anything until an expert advises me. Thank you.