Sugar Babies and Arrangements 2. 0

[RedBaron Daron]

Saw this one recently, great lay. Real 19 yo who was vocal and into it. She did ask for cover, and wasn't too crazy about giving head. Loved getting pounded though, great body with fantastic tits.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...6-8cc87bf9f981

Might want to clear your inbox, lotta guys probably want her info, including myself.

RBD out.

[DWinthrop]

Saw this one recently, great lay. Real 19 yo who was vocal and into it. She did ask for cover, and wasn't too crazy about giving head. Loved getting pounded though, great body with fantastic tits.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...6-8cc87bf9f981

[BumbaCloth]

Any info on her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a-bd8609aabab3

[BumbaCloth]

Any info on her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...e-e63334ad1a42

[CuriousVaMan]

Wow, Snake. That's quite an episode. You handled with compassion and grace. Unfortunately, I have come to the same conclusion and will add that sugaring takes a toll on the SBs. I met an SB this time last year for a M&G. She was talkative (in a good way), bubbly and engaging. Just a very "attractive" young woman. Met up with her about a month ago and she devolved into a total Debbie downer. She mumbled, had a poor outlook on life etc. Pretty sure she wasn't on anything. It got to the point where I suggested she head back home (to Arizona) where she at least has a support system. I've not seen her since, nor do I plan to. Too much drama, which I cannot afford.

I've written several times about my SB named Julia. In the first two years of our arrangement, we had mostly short encounters, but this time, after a year off, we've grown closer and spend more time together, and she says she's in love with me, despite my being more than twice her age. Meanwhile, Julia has exhibited increasingly erratic behavior and I've learned WHY she is still single, even though beautiful and intelligent. Her family provides a support structure, but it's noteworthy that none of them want her to live with them. Why? Julia is very sweet 99% of the time, but the other 1% of the time her mind is gripped by a terrible anger and she lashes out. For example, one evening she called me at home to complain to me that I am an "evil narcissist" (it might even be true) and she screamed "You better be glad I don't know your address or I'd come there and beat the hell out of your wife!" When discussing these angry episodes later on, it's clear that she does not remember what happened or what she did or said. Her brain is lost in a fog during these episodes.

The most terrifying episode yet, which has led me to suspend our arrangement, occurred one evening when I was taking Julia home and she learned that she didn't have the key to her house because her Mom had it. Planning to wait outside her house until the landlady, who lives next door and has a key, came home, she ordered me to leave because I "don't care, nobody cares!" A few minutes later she messaged me, demanding to know why I had left her in the cold (well, because she told me to) and that I should take her to her sister's house. We drove towards her sister's, the fog rolling into her mind, and after a few minutes she demanded to know why I was going the wrong way, her Mom was the opposite direction. Now hysterical, she opened the passenger door while we were driving at 60 mph on the highway and said she was jumping out because I was taking her against her will. (It would have been a lot more rational to turn the car around at the next exit.). I'm not sure she would really jump out, but she did open the door. I tried to restrain her from jumping, got the car off the highway as quickly as I could, and found a safe parking spot. Then it got worse. She berated me for a long list of perceived injustices: that I cheated on her (she could "smell it") ; that I gave her "fake love"; that I played mental games and didn't care about her; and that I deliberately made her angry so that I could have an excuse to leave her. Julia started punching me in the face. Although I can defend myself, I took the keys and left the car, standing a few feet away. On the passenger seat she curled up in a fetal position and sobbed. To make a long story shorter, I ended up buying her an Uber ride to her Mom's (for key) and back home. This worked, but not without more drama and screaming.

Maybe the lesson learned here is that a certain fraction of these sugarbabies have mental illnesses and we should watch out for that. I've had 8 long-term SBs over the years, and 2 of them were clearly mentally ill. Beautiful, intelligent, fun to be with most of the time, great sex. If you see such a woman still single at age 26, there's a reason, and it's probably not good. Of course, we might be able to say the same about men. So, currently I am taking a break, but still sending Julia small amounts of money and letting her talk to me on a phone app. Why the phone app? The main reason is to see what danger may be coming. I want to hear her footsteps. But I also care about her actually. So far, her communications after the car episode have been benign: asking me to forgive her, to take her back, that she loves me. And she does not remember the details of the episode.

[Snake27]

I've written several times about my SB named Julia. In the first two years of our arrangement, we had mostly short encounters, but this time, after a year off, we've grown closer and spend more time together, and she says she's in love with me, despite my being more than twice her age. Meanwhile, Julia has exhibited increasingly erratic behavior and I've learned WHY she is still single, even though beautiful and intelligent. Her family provides a support structure, but it's noteworthy that none of them want her to live with them. Why? Julia is very sweet 99% of the time, but the other 1% of the time her mind is gripped by a terrible anger and she lashes out. For example, one evening she called me at home to complain to me that I am an "evil narcissist" (it might even be true) and she screamed "You better be glad I don't know your address or I'd come there and beat the hell out of your wife!" When discussing these angry episodes later on, it's clear that she does not remember what happened or what she did or said. Her brain is lost in a fog during these episodes.

The most terrifying episode yet, which has led me to suspend our arrangement, occurred one evening when I was taking Julia home and she learned that she didn't have the key to her house because her Mom had it. Planning to wait outside her house until the landlady, who lives next door and has a key, came home, she ordered me to leave because I "don't care, nobody cares!" A few minutes later she messaged me, demanding to know why I had left her in the cold (well, because she told me to) and that I should take her to her sister's house. We drove towards her sister's, the fog rolling into her mind, and after a few minutes she demanded to know why I was going the wrong way, her Mom was the opposite direction. Now hysterical, she opened the passenger door while we were driving at 60 mph on the highway and said she was jumping out because I was taking her against her will. (It would have been a lot more rational to turn the car around at the next exit.). I'm not sure she would really jump out, but she did open the door. I tried to restrain her from jumping, got the car off the highway as quickly as I could, and found a safe parking spot. Then it got worse. She berated me for a long list of perceived injustices: that I cheated on her (she could "smell it") ; that I gave her "fake love"; that I played mental games and didn't care about her; and that I deliberately made her angry so that I could have an excuse to leave her. Julia started punching me in the face. Although I can defend myself, I took the keys and left the car, standing a few feet away. On the passenger seat she curled up in a fetal position and sobbed. To make a long story shorter, I ended up buying her an Uber ride to her Mom's (for key) and back home. This worked, but not without more drama and screaming.

Maybe the lesson learned here is that a certain fraction of these sugarbabies have mental illnesses and we should watch out for that. I've had 8 long-term SBs over the years, and 2 of them were clearly mentally ill. Beautiful, intelligent, fun to be with most of the time, great sex. If you see such a woman still single at age 26, there's a reason, and it's probably not good. Of course, we might be able to say the same about men. So, currently I am taking a break, but still sending Julia small amounts of money and letting her talk to me on a phone app. Why the phone app? The main reason is to see what danger may be coming. I want to hear her footsteps. But I also care about her actually. So far, her communications after the car episode have been benign: asking me to forgive her, to take her back, that she loves me. And she does not remember the details of the episode.

[Father Glucose]

No doubt! I'm ALWAYS reserved with the info I give on the site. Always a fake name, burner number and never share a face pic on the site.

By this point they typically have a photo, a name, and a phone number. There's plenty you can do with all that. It's even worse if they have an email address or pay account information. Always use a burner, fake name, and use cash.

[GAGuy2020]

By this point they typically have a photo, a name, and a phone number. There's plenty you can do with all that. It's even worse if they have an email address or pay account information. Always use a burner, fake name, and use cash.

It took me about two times falling for it to realize the pattern. Usually they only have 1 pic on their profile. What are they doing with the phone numbers? Because they never have tried to get any money. They ghost after the "I'll text you" message, and usually the account is disabled (or I'm blocked) within a day.

[Father Glucose]

It took me about two times falling for it to realize the pattern. Usually they only have 1 pic on their profile. What are they doing with the phone numbers? Because they never have tried to get any money. They ghost after the "I'll text you" message, and usually the account is disabled (or I'm blocked) within a day.

[GAGuy2020]

I did some research and found some very interesting results but not positive.

Ashley Madison. Coin based. Pretty good database but not the best quality versus others in its class and not as many people online. Being a cheating site and not sugar might require more dates and less benefit or behind extra effort walls.

Sugardaddy. Coin based. Suspiciously the same engine and what appears to be the same database as SB and it looks like the same billing system.

Sugardaddyforme. Coin based. Nobody online and it was not late.

Was expecting a couple of those to be subscription based but now they're all coin-based and the coinbase system from experience is a waste of money. The lowest tiers are barely enough to talk to 10 people at minimum, in the mid tier although increasing the number of chats doesn't guarantee your response and you're not refunded if you never get a response. Unless you make a big stink to customer service. Too much effort with a little payout.

Seeking is the best choice but dealing with admins and bans is rough. Any other suggestions?

[EasyeOne]

Who uses WYP and is it worth it? Heard sign up can be deep. Can you be casual and private or is all info out there? Is this more sugar daddy or a gimmick for normal dates? The concept sounds interesting but don't want to be caught in normal dating or get scammed.

Any tips or tricks? Suggestions for better sites?

Personally I do not think is worth it. You are offering to pay for a meet and greet. The higher the amount the higher the number of tokens you pay to exchange messages. Most of the girls on there are just looking for a lunch / dinner date with payment. You make the offer, the girl accepts, the cost of messaging her is based on what the amount of the first date was. 20 tokens for $100 date and it goes up. Those tokens don't last. Most girls don't want 100 - not worth it. Again, you just agreeing to pay for a meet and greet.

Unfortunately, seeking still a better option.

[GAGuy2020]

Who uses WYP and is it worth it? Heard sign up can be deep. Can you be casual and private or is all info out there? Is this more sugar daddy or a gimmick for normal dates? The concept sounds interesting but don't want to be caught in normal dating or get scammed.

Any tips or tricks? Suggestions for better sites?

[GAGuy2020]

They are great! Yep said it before, some of these girls use the site like a real dating site but don't let that fool you. They are just tired of dating broke guys. These girls are still 304's with high body counts that sell P, they aren't victims.

Had plenty of girls offer for me to stop pay so they can go out and be more relationship like. Don't have that time and don't need a girlfriend. They don't want a Daddy they want a boyfriend and / or husband. Casual play partners are ok but don't catch feelings and try to save a 304. They don't need help, they just want to feel loved but due to bad lifestyle and choices, nobody wants to date them for a good reason. Make them feel loved but don't do girlfriend things. Enjoy a few months but there are plenty out there just like her.

Gents, found an amazing one. If you aren't having success out there, I don't know what to tell ya. Change your game up or something. I met up with this one and haven't looked back. Pretty much whatever I want, I get. Believe it or not, I won her over with regular dates. Just getting to know her, treating her like a person. No allowance to worry about. There are still hidden gems out there. So yeah, don't get frustrated. Try a new angle or something. Best of luck to ya all.

[Ushuaia3156]

Gents, found an amazing one. If you aren't having success out there, I don't know what to tell ya. Change your game up or something. I met up with this one and haven't looked back. Pretty much whatever I want, I get. Believe it or not, I won her over with regular dates. Just getting to know her, treating her like a person. No allowance to worry about. There are still hidden gems out there. So yeah, don't get frustrated. Try a new angle or something. Best of luck to ya all.

Great job dude. Jealous.

[Espo123]

She was on stg? LOL I made contact with her who was she on stg do you have any links to old ads of hers? Anything else you can mention about her?

Yeah this was years ago. She went by Redd as well LOL. Back when I saw her she was skinny and fit. Can't really say how she would be know tbh.