Streetwalker Reports

[Colnago]

Who? This isn't T and A. We can speak openly here.

Your Mom. If I knew her name I would have posted it. I have seen her face on TNA. The real point of the post was that times might be getting tough for internet girls. Next time ask with some respect and I might go back try to find her name.

[AussieFury]

Genuine newbie question: are there rules on this board against naming names in cases like this?

Nope. No such rule. I want to hear names!

[AussieFury]

I saw a TNA girl on AA around 96th Saturday night. One who I would not have expected to see out there. Things must also be slowing on the internet.

Who? This isn't T and A. We can speak openly here.

[MongerSeeker]

I agree. The thing to remember is that LE is questioning you gather evidence for a stronger case or to get enough evidence to arrest you. If the police stop you for talking to a SW the most you should ever say is that you were offering her a ride. It is good to hear that Seattle got rid of their loitering law. California had the most legally questionable loitering law. CA's loitering law essentially allowed to a cop to call what he wanted as loitering. It was so bad that some the's in CA said that it was bad law.

The other problem the on the streets are way blatant and obnoxious. Walking around in lingerie or bathing suits only riles up the locals. Here in socal many of the girls walk in the middle of the streets.

Coming from a family of law enforcement, with me being the exception, remember this, Cop's tell their family and everyone they care about this "If you get in trouble, never talk to the police!" Just my two cents or more!

[KitWalker1967]

I saw a TNA girl on AA around 96th Saturday night. One who I would not have expected to see out there. Things must also be slowing on the internet.

That's awesome to hear, especially if it's someone like Leilanni Moore.

[KitWalker1967]

Coming from a family of law enforcement, with me being the exception, remember this, Cop's tell their family and everyone they care about this "If you get in trouble, never talk to the police!" Just my two cents or more!

The least expensive and most useful advice you'll ever receive from an attorney:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqo5RYOp4nQ

[Zomfg]

I saw a TNA girl on AA around 96th Saturday night. One who I would not have expected to see out there. Things must also be slowing on the internet.

Genuine newbie question: are there rules on this board against naming names in cases like this?

[Colnago]

I saw a TNA girl on AA around 96th Saturday night. One who I would not have expected to see out there. Things must also be slowing on the internet.

[Colnago]

In my experience no. They won't just stop your car for talking to a prostitute. Because the prostitution loitering laws were repealed I am not sure they even have reasonable suspicion anymore to pull you over for talking to one of them. I have never been pulled over and in my time out there which is 100's of hours on AA I can only recall one time I saw a guy pulled over after talking to a hooker.

You are mistaking can with will, a very serious mistake under the right conditions. Yes they can pull you over for contacting a known prostitute. That's not even debatable. There was a time when the police regularly pulled over people for that. I can't count how many times I have been pulled over for having a girl in my car. Now, they need to have to have more proof of a crime occurring to actually arrest you, so if you keep your mouth shut, it will just be an inconvenience. The police have moved away from this tactic probably because it just wasn't an effective deterrence. As someone mentioned, the loitering laws for the women have changed, not the patronizing laws for clients.

[LikeYouKnow]

This is exactly what I was told, that hobbying on the street poses the biggest risk of being arrested or having negative contact with police. You're right out in the open. Street-level john stings are the easiest and fastest way for the city to send a message to residents that they are doing something. One thing which was interesting to me is that since the police presence hasn't been as aggressive in the past couple of years and girls have been operating with seeming impunity on Aurora, it's made a lot of newbies think that the police nor the city are enforcing it. So as I said in my previous post guys got lazy thinking they won't be busted. The lawyer told me that as a result he'd been representing a lot of men who didn't know it was actually illegal or decriminalized. And just as you said, do it this long enough consistently and you will have contact at some point. Fuck around and find out.

The other thing to remember is that if they're questioning you, they probably don't have quite enough information to seal the arrest for a charge. It's not your duty to assist them in their investigation. Alternatively, if they have solid evidence of a crime, they'll cuff you and take you in without hesitation and that's it. They don't waste time if they've got solid evidence.

Again, can't say this enough and yes I know i'm being redundant here, but consult a lawyer if you're going to partake in this activity. Learn about how SPD and the city goes about enforcement, what to do if stopped and what to expect if you do get popped. Just do it.

Coming from a family of law enforcement, with me being the exception, remember this, Cop's tell their family and everyone they care about this "If you get in trouble, never talk to the police!" Just my two cents or more!

[Hoballer]

While I think your risk is higher (sometimes much higher) when dealing with streetwalkers, if you play in this pool long enough you will have encounters with the police. Best to be ready for it.

This is exactly what I was told, that hobbying on the street poses the biggest risk of being arrested or having negative contact with police. You're right out in the open. Street-level john stings are the easiest and fastest way for the city to send a message to residents that they are doing something. One thing which was interesting to me is that since the police presence hasn't been as aggressive in the past couple of years and girls have been operating with seeming impunity on Aurora, it's made a lot of newbies think that the police nor the city are enforcing it. So as I said in my previous post guys got lazy thinking they won't be busted. The lawyer told me that as a result he'd been representing a lot of men who didn't know it was actually illegal nor decriminalized. And just as you said, do this long enough consistently and you will have contact at some point. Fuck around and find out.

Your best bet is to say as little as possible, preferably nothing at all except, "am I under arrest or am I free to go?" and "I would like an attorney present when I speak to you. " The more you say the more you can bury yourself, and sometimes even saying innocuous stuff might bury you. Remember you don't ever really know what they are after and they can and will lie to you.

The other thing to remember is that if they're questioning you, they probably don't have quite enough information to seal the arrest for a charge. It's not your duty to assist them in their investigation. You almost always talk your way into a crime as opposed to talking your way out of one and it also makes it difficult for a lawyer to work with your case. Alternatively, if they have solid evidence of a crime, they'll cuff you and take you in without hesitation and that's it. They don't waste time if they've got solid evidence.

Again, can't say this enough and yes I know i'm being redundant here, but consult a lawyer if you're going to partake in this activity. Learn about how SPD and the city goes about enforcement, what to do if stopped and what to expect if you do get popped. Just do it.

[Hoballer]

[double post, having some issues with my broswer]

[ProJohn1]

While I think your risk is higher (sometimes much higher) when dealing with streetwalkers, if you play in this pool long enough you will have encounters with the police. Best to be ready for it.

Your best bet is to say as little as possible, preferably nothing at all except, "am I under arrest or am I free to go?" and "I would like an attorney present when I speak to you. " The more you say the more you can bury yourself, and sometimes even saying innocuous stuff might bury you. Remember you don't ever really know what they are after and they can and will lie to you.

Oh believe me I have a really great criminal defense attorney on retainer. If you are ever questioned by the police I simply said "I'm not going to make any statements without my attorney present". If they continue or persist it doesn't matter what they ask or how they ask it my answer will be the same every time "I'm not going to make any statements". Even if you have done nothing wrong at all you could still end up in jail falsely accused of something. One thing specifically that people need to be mindful of is saying they were with somebody or saw somebody. Even if it's somebody they saw walking down the street. I'll give you an example. Let's say you are walking down the street in your own neighborhood and a cop pulls up alongside you and asks you "hey did you see two juvenile females walking thru here?" And you say "what did they look like?" officer responds "they both were wearing pajamas and about 14" and you reply "Yes! I saw them about 10 minutes ago around the corner by the park" Officer says thanks! Sounds innocent enough right? You aren't telling them anything criminal. You didn't do anything wrong you just happened to see them walking through your neighborhood and you were minding your own business. The problem with this is that if those two girls are found dead around the corner in the dumpster dismembered you are now a suspect because you were the last person to see them alive! This is a made up scenario that is based on real world cases where this scenario has happened before and totally innocent people go to jail. If the cops asks you about knowing anybody or seeing anybody esp somebody in this hobby it's absolutely not something you want to share with the police because you don't know what the circumstances are of this person.

All this being said. I have never ever seen anybody pulled over for talking to a SW save for one person in the last 3 years. I have picked up SW's multiple times right In front of the police. They won't do anything. There must be some kind of internal policy that prevents them from pulling over John's. It just doesn't happen. Even during the times when they have 8 squad cars out on AA at 2 am they sit there and watch girl after girl being picked up. They don't move. They don't stop anybody. Unless something changes with SPD's policies and / or the city council I wouldn't even worry about it. They have nothing and that's why they aren't going to waste there time because the girl would need to be really stupid and snitch on you for them to have anything to detain you.

[Marko Ramius]

While I think your risk is higher (sometimes much higher) when dealing with streetwalkers, if you play in this pool long enough you will have encounters with the police. Best to be ready for it.

Your best bet is to say as little as possible, preferably nothing at all except, "am I under arrest or am I free to go?" and "I would like an attorney present when I speak to you. " The more you say the more you can bury yourself, and sometimes even saying innocuous stuff might bury you. Remember you don't ever really know what they are after and they can and will lie to you.

One summer afternoon there was a dude who struck up a conversation with my in the Kitten's parking lot while I was waiting for my Uber. I'm 99 percent sure that he was either an undercover cop or a CI, although it is possible he was just a remarkably clueless horndog. Let's just say he asked lots of stupid questions and wanted to let me know that he knew everything that went on in the club but at the same time wanted me to share details and specifics of my activities with him. I just told him to fuck right off and after a bit of whining he did just that and I caught my Uber back to my hotel.

A long time ago I got pulled over leaving a pretty well-known massage parlor (at the time) in Renton. Ended up with me in the back of a patrol car, finally two plainclothes officers (one of whom had the same annoying disapproving air of my first wife) asked me a series of rapid-fire questions that made zero sense to me. After a lot of back and forth and me refusing to answer any of their questions and them making a lot of pretty intimidating threats they let me go. I never went back to that shop and I think a car dealer is on the site now.

This doesn't just go for your whoring activities. I had a personal dispute with an idiot employee who made some extravagant threats against me and accused me of some very serious crimes. I finally did get contacted by the local police about it. I told them I'd be happy to give my side of the story but because of the serious nature of the accusations on the table I had to have a lawyer present. They were okay with that and let me go and I never heard anything more about it.

[Hoballer]

The loitering laws applied to SWs working the streets, not to johns making a pick-up. The city still conducts john stings and over 30 guys have been popped this year alone thus far. They are definitely after the buyers. Plus, even though the loitering laws were repealed the crime of solicitation is still on the books, the city can conveniently pursue SWs again at any time. Vice can still pick-up an SW and bust her. Just because they aren't now doesn't mean that they eventually won't or can't. That being said, I've seen men stopped on Aurora a couple of times this year, though that number is way down from 2020 as I had mentioned in my previous post. If you do this activity for a long enough and regular period, the chances are pretty high that you will be stopped at some point. That can be for a variety of reasons including suspicion that you're somebody else whom has been committing heinous crimes against SWs. They can stop and question for suspicion, it happens. The city has a new city council and with pressure from residents things can change out there at any time. A lot of guys who got popped since 2020 thought that picking-up a prostitute was legal or decriminalized out there because the police weren't doing anything and therefore they were careless. They were careless out of ignorance. We always have to remember that the laws are still in place and ultimately we can be held accountable.

Again, I'd recommend that everyone consult a lawyer. The result was very interesting when I did. A lot of the time people think they know the laws and what's going on and they realize when they get stopped or caught that suddenly they don't. Make yourselves as informed as possible.

In my experience no. They won't just stop your car for talking to a prostitute. Because the prostitution loitering laws were repealed I am not sure they even have reasonable suspicion anymore to pull you over for talking to one of them. I have never been pulled over and in my time out there which is 100's of hours on AA I can only recall one time I saw a guy pulled over after talking to a hooker.