AMP Tips and Guidelines

[Rudesmack]

When you are brought to your room should you start getting undressed or wait till they tell you to. You always have that short time between when you get in the room and when the girl who is going to give the massage comes?

Should I be undressing then or wait till I am told to?

[Lobrow]

I been going to AMPs for over 10 years. Never really thought about the girls working there to much. Just would always ask for the new girl and have my fun. About a year ago that all changed. I went to my regular place that I had been going for about 3 years since it opened. I was always treated well there and knew the owner. I asked for the new girl as always. Yo-yo was her handle. I could tell something was different about her. After my session, which was wonderful, she said to me " I don't want to do this anymore". I said something stupid like " You can't quit I need you". The next time I went there she was off but was visiting for the day. She saw me and said she would look for me at the casino where I was staying. I didn't think to much about it, but later that night she saw me and her face lit up. She proceeded to hang out with me for most of the evening until the friends she was riding with had lost their money and wanted to go home. She came back a month later and asked for my cell number. She started calling me and texting me and our friendship began. She told me alot about her life. She came here with her family, but she is the only one who wanted to stay. A friend got her a job at an AMP as cook/cleaning lady. The owner then made her start going with customers against her will. She could speak little english at that time and felt she was trapped. She met a customer who she ended up married to for 5 years, they had a child, he cheated on her with a stripper and she left him. She had only been doing this for about six months again when I met her and the only reason she was doing it was to make enough money to go back to Korea, which she did in December of last year. We were boyfriend / girlfriend for about six months up until she left. I do believe she loves me and her friends tell me she wants to get back with me when she comes back to the USA. As far as money made in 1. 5 months she made 40K of which her cut was 20K. Her goal was to get another 30K in 2 months so she could have enough to get back to Korea. She will not be back until next year, some Visa issues to work out. I told her I would wait for her. Like I said she is the first one in over 10 years that got to me.

Thanks for sharing. I always end up talking more than I probably should because I get nervous and I start talking when I get nervous. Last time with this korean girl. We talked after we were done and she mentioned an ex she had and her tone started to get sad. Didn't have much time so she didn't go into much detail. Sometimes I wonder about their story but I guess best not to get involved sometimes. Glad your relationship is working out.

[Bob346]

As to a previous queston about being a walk up or making an appt. If this is your first time at that Spa it does not make much differance. If you heard about a special girl working there then it is best to make an appt.

I live in Houston and we have Spa's all over town. So you can stop by anytime.

How to build a trustworthy experience dependes on how you treat the lady. And remembe that she is a LADY. I don't care if she is 18 or 85. Treat her with respect. And your first time and next time shouldl be pleasent.

Saw a question about tips. Most of the RMT's or LMT's do not expect a tip. But remember, I said most. Don't know why. As to Spa girls I have used this rule of thumb for tipping. ANY extras require a tip. The more extras, the more the tip. I don't understand how a guy can expect to have massage with a happy ending AND expect to feel her up OR penetrate an orfice and expect to get by for a measely twenty or thirty buck tip. If I keep my hands to myself, I don't mind tipping $20. The more she and I do to/with each other the higher the tip. Stands to reason. Some Spa's down here quote a $50 door fee and a $100 tip. If you don't get FS demand your money back. So I also use that as my guide to tipping. I can go any place in town for $150 and get FS. I go in for a massage plus a little extra, I pay accordingly.

Just found this site yesterday. Some good info on it for Hobbist or monger (sp) as you call it on this board.

Happy hunting and ALWAYS stay safe.

[TwistedBrother]

I been going to AMPs for over 10 years. .... Like I said she is the first one in over 10 years that got to me.

You may be interested in this thread I started about relationships with providers. Good luck with yours.

http://usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=5356

[Joe Bagodonuts]

I been going to AMPs for over 10 years. Never really thought about the girls working there to much. Just would always ask for the new girl and have my fun. About a year ago that all changed. I went to my regular place that I had been going for about 3 years since it opened. I was always treated well there and knew the owner. I asked for the new girl as always. Yo-yo was her handle. I could tell something was different about her. After my session, which was wonderful, she said to me " I don't want to do this anymore". I said something stupid like " You can't quit I need you". The next time I went there she was off but was visiting for the day. She saw me and said she would look for me at the casino where I was staying. I didn't think to much about it, but later that night she saw me and her face lit up. She proceeded to hang out with me for most of the evening until the friends she was riding with had lost their money and wanted to go home. She came back a month later and asked for my cell number. She started calling me and texting me and our friendship began. She told me alot about her life. She came here with her family, but she is the only one who wanted to stay. A friend got her a job at an AMP as cook/cleaning lady. The owner then made her start going with customers against her will. She could speak little english at that time and felt she was trapped. She met a customer who she ended up married to for 5 years, they had a child, he cheated on her with a stripper and she left him. She had only been doing this for about six months again when I met her and the only reason she was doing it was to make enough money to go back to Korea, which she did in December of last year. We were boyfriend / girlfriend for about six months up until she left. I do believe she loves me and her friends tell me she wants to get back with me when she comes back to the USA. As far as money made in 1. 5 months she made 40K of which her cut was 20K. Her goal was to get another 30K in 2 months so she could have enough to get back to Korea. She will not be back until next year, some Visa issues to work out. I told her I would wait for her. Like I said she is the first one in over 10 years that got to me.

[Roru63]

I see that a lot of thought was put into USTraveller's post about TIPS & Guidelines.

Great job!

There is one point, I feel, that may have been forgotten. When visiting an AMP for the first time, what are everyone's experiences/suggestions when it comes to:

A) callling ahead for an appointment, or

B) just showing up as a walk-in?

Which helps build a "trustworthy" and more relaxing experieince for all involved?

[Nitescape]

I don't think you can compare the two. Even though the word "massage" is used by both, they each provide totally different services.

The so-called "extra" services provided by the AMP are sexual in nature and usually outside the law. Employees there can find themselves arrested, fined, jailed, etc. Their immigration status and lack of English makes them very vulnerable.

I think you have to distinguish between the owners of the AMP and the employees. The former make a lot more money than the "girls" do. I am under no illusions about the "glamourous" lives of AMP workers or the "piles of dough" they take home. I am not even sure that they get to keep all "their" tips. And if they don't like the work, they have few options open to them.

So, while there are exceptions and special circumstances, there's really no comparison between LMTs and AMP workers.

D

Well at the risk of sounding contentious, the comment she made was -

"As for getting $40 for an hour-long massage AND a HJ. I feel really, really sorry for those women. What a desperate place they must be in to agree to such a thing. I imagine street-walkers with obvious drug habits must make more per hour than that. Wow."

Her point seems to be that they are making very low amount of money, and as even your posts point out, they aren't mostly making MORE than others.

She also seems to be saying, that it's a really tough thing, that they do a massage, AND (gasp) a HJ.

So the issues you raised, while they may be issues in some cases, are besides her point, at least from what I can see.

[Daka1]

I don't think you can compare the two. Even though the word "massage" is used by both, they each provide totally different services.

The so-called "extra" services provided by the AMP are sexual in nature and usually outside the law. Employees there can find themselves arrested, fined, jailed, etc. Their immigration status and lack of English makes them very vulnerable.

I think you have to distinguish between the owners of the AMP and the employees. The former make a lot more money than the "girls" do. I am under no illusions about the "glamourous" lives of AMP workers or the "piles of dough" they take home. I am not even sure that they get to keep all "their" tips. And if they don't like the work, they have few options open to them.

So, while there are exceptions and special circumstances, there's really no comparison between LMTs and AMP workers.

D

[Daka1]

Any guidelines for tipping for legit service?

I think the standard tip is 15-20%. I usually tip $10 on a $60 professional massage, but have left $20 when the LMT was especially effective at alleviating a sore back; also tipped $20 during the holidays.

I would hope that people who go to resorts and spas that charge $100 and up for a massage would leave a tip in the range of 20-25%.

D

[Nitescape]

The $20 quoted as the LMT's split at some spas is before the tip.

It looks like the $40 mentioned for the AMP worker providing also a HJ is the total she makes.

BTW, at the place I go for a professional massage, the split is 25/35 for an hour, and I leave a $10 tip.

D

I might be misunderstanding, but you are confirming my point no?

$20-25 plus a $10 tip would be $35, compared to the AMP girl making $40.

I also wanted to ask, if that's the standard tip to leave for a legit massage?

I want to know because if I go to a place, and they are legit only, I guess I'm supposed to tip the girl?

If so, I'm wondering how much?

Any guidelines for tipping for legit service?

And if they are blatantly decoying as an extra place, I guess I don't need to tip at all?

Thanks

[Daka1]

Why are you feeling sorry for women who are making twice what you just stated the licensed therapists are making?

The $20 quoted as the LMT's split at some spas is before the tip.

It looks like the $40 mentioned for the AMP worker providing also a HJ is the total she makes.

BTW, at the place I go for a professional massage, the split is 25/35 for an hour, and I leave a $10 tip.

D

[Nitescape]

The split in a spa is ridiculously low, many licensed and certified therapists only being paid $20/hr. On a $100 service. $20/hr.

As for getting $40 for an hour-long massage AND a HJ. I feel really, really sorry for those women. What a desperate place they must be in to agree to such a thing. I imagine street-walkers with obvious drug habits must make more per hour than that. Wow.

Why are you feeling sorry for women who are making twice what you just stated the licensed therapists are making?

[Nitescape]

I'm still reading the last page, but just wanted to say thank you to everyone for your feedback, and especially those who took the time to lay out all those helpful guidelines!!

Thank you.

[Iamme Iam]

Check this out....sounds like somone reads this forum, or is a fellow hobbyist.
I was just going to include the tips in an AMP, but found the whole article an excellent reference.

http://www.thenaughtyamerican.com/20...sseuse-54.html

or read it here:


How To Get A Happy Ending From Your Masseuse
BY REUBEN TUCKER
AUGUST 9, 2007
NEW ORLEANS (TNA) – Getting a good massage is easy. There are lots of legitimate masseuses of both sexes who can rub, pound and stroke your body into relaxation.

However, finding a masseuse willing to provide that cherry on top of the masseuse cake known as a "happy ending" can be downright hard.

In more ways than one.

Sadly, what is considered part of the normal massage package in other parts of the world – namely, customer ejaculation – is considered indecent in America.


This little tale provides a happy ending.

Of course, that just makes the dedicated men and women who perform "happy endings" that much more valuable – and in demand with discerning customers who want to end their sessions with a little "rub and tug."
Finding a masseuse willing to get touchy with your privates takes a little work, but here are some tips to help you determine whether your massage will end happily or otherwise.

Initial Encounter

1) Don’t go to massage parlors that emphasize sports fitness. The masseuses there are under the misguided impression that they can satisfy a customer by rubbing every muscle except the "love muscle."

Although Swedes have a reputation for sexual openness, folks who practice Swedish massage do not.

2) Do go to a massage parlor with a vaguely Asian name. If the massage place is named after an Asian city that is near a U.S. military base, such as Osaka or Subic Bay, there’s a good chance the masseuse will touch your nads without you even asking.

However, the folks who run Asian massage places (AMP) are constantly in fear of being busted by police who don’t understand the good work they do. That means if you’ve never been to a particular place, the "Mama-san," or masseuse, might give you a test before she decides to touch your testes.

"You been here before?"

Always answer "Yes." Even if you haven’t.

"Who did you see?"

Say you saw Sunny or Lee. Every AMP has an employee named Sunny or Lee. This will convince them that you are a valued customer.

3) Do attempt to visit a masseuse specializing in tantric massage. It is twice as expensive as an AMP, but tantric is a Sanskrit phrase meaning "handjob," so the so-called "release" is practically guaranteed.

Take a look at www.goddesstemple.com, a website devoted to women who practice tantric massage (and a few guys too). Some of the "holistic practitioners" offer "Sacred Spot Massage," which is a fancy word for "stick a finger in your butt"; "Goddess Worship," where you get to fool around with them; or "Cum Worship," which means you’ll definitely ejaculate.

That’s the good news. On the downside, you may have to deal with a lot of New Age mumbo-jumbo about finding the God or Goddess within, and the masseuse may wear a lot of cheesy scarves rather than hot pants and a halter.

4) Do go to masseuses who use ads with pretty girls. If you’re getting a real massage, it doesn’t matter what the masseuse looks like. Also, look for words like "sensual," "light touch" and "fresh off the boat."

Getting Situated

1) If you have the option of getting a hot bath with your massage, do it. Some masseuses are perfectly willing to give "hand releases" if they are sure the customer is clean, and the only way they can ensure that is by doing all the scrubbing. Plus, you have to be naked during the shower, so this helps convince them you’re not a cop.

2) When you undress, the masseuse will place a towel over your heiney. Take it off and tell her, "It’s too hot for this." This will give him or her a clue of what you’re really looking for. If the masseuse is inclined to tug your fishing tackle, he or she might give you a really tiny towel and say something like, "I am not allowed to remove this." If you act clueless, he or she might add, "By law, I -- meaning me -- the masseuse, am not allowed to remove this," and then point to you as if to verbally say, ``but YOU can."

3) Some masseuses might be open and ask, "Do you want a release?" This is someone you should treat very nicely, as they obviously understand the important elements of customer service.

During The Massage

1) Most massages begin with you on your tummy. Some masseuses – even the so-called legitimate ones -- like to tease you by brushing their hand near your crack. If he or she spends extra time there, they may be inclined to rub one out. Signify your interest by lifting your buttocks in the air to allow easy access.

2) Sometimes, the masseuse will try to make conversation. If he or she compliments you on your ass or sex organs, you have a good chance of receiving a happy ending. Another good sign: If they tell you that your muscles are so tight, you need some extra "body work."

3) Sometimes, wiggling your tongue during the massage will give them a hint of what you want, as will making moaning noises. Try and avoid moaning too loud because he or she might interpret that as a sign they’re doing something painful.

4) If the masseuse says they do a better massage if they’re naked or topless, take this as a good sign.

5) Keeping a $20 bill tucked between your toes can also be a subtle hint of what you want. However, some masseuses who only do hand releases if they feel "chemistry" may take offense at this (as well as the idea of holding a $20 bill that smells like toe jam).

During The Happy Ending

1) When the masseuse is pulling, prodding and probing your privates, it is considered polite to say things like, "Yum." Be vocal, but not too loud. Also, give a warning if you’re ticklish, because loud laughter is a turnoff to a masseuse who is trying to do a handjob.

2) It is best not to bring up topics of a personal nature during the "release." This is not the time to ask how she would feel if her daughter did this for a living. Nor should you ask how many times she does this each day. Generally, every masseuse wants each customer to think they are the only person getting a happy ending that day.

3) Let your masseuse tell you how far they want to go with the happy ending. One might only want to rub you out, while another may be happy to ride you out. There’s an old saying among massage maniacs: "Your mileage may vary." Sometimes, a therapist may simply be horny because they are turned on by you (maybe) or by the customer before you (more likely). Other times, they may be mad at their boyfriend and simply want a grudge fuck, and you just happen to be the beneficiary.

If A Happy Ending Looks Doubtful….

Sometimes the best plans of mice, men and massage go awry and even the most open-minded masseuse may balk at bringing the proceedings to a proper conclusion. Here are some things you can say that might change his or her mind.

1) "C’mon, I’m dying here." It only works about on 3 out of 100 times, but at the very least, they might squeeze some oil on you and let you go to town on yourself while they file their nails.

2) "I’m sorry. I don’t know what I was thinking, but you’re just so durn purty." This line works best if your masseuse is extremely unattractive.

3) "The other masseuse does it." This works well. If they ask which one, just say "Sunny" or "Lee" There is always one or the other at any AMP. If you’re at a more holistic place, try the name "Epiphany."

4) Or, you can cut your losses by saying, "Good answer. I’m an off-duty police officer." This might ease your temporary embarrassment, but it will ruin any chances of getting a happy ending on return visits.

Afterwards…..

1) Lie there while the masseuse gets a hot wash rag to clean off your tummy. It is considered bad form to get dressed hurriedly.

2) Smile, smile, smile so the masseuse knows that their actions relaxed you.

3) Discreetly leave a tip on the counter. Don’t shove it in their hand.

4) Always say "Thank you," for a job well done.

Although you might not get a happy ending every time -- even if you go to the skeeviest massage parlor -- these tips can increase your percentage every time.

[Virile Vito]

I've been an AMP customer for many years. I've always been very respectful to the girls I've been with. One thing I've never done (in an AMP or otherwise) is to pop on a girls stomach.

Recently I've had the urge to want to do it but I'm not exactly sure how to approach the ladies with that request. I don't want to be disrespectful but at the same time it seems that guys to do it all the time. Or at least in their stories.

So experts, how do you do go about it?

Sharkman67

You nailed it talking about respect. You might notice that when dudes put this in their stories, it is often followed by "she gave me a real nasty look" or "she was pretty pissed off at me" or something like that. Don't follow the selfish asses who do this w/o asking.

I personally cannot fathom at all why dudes want to do this, and I think it would also take away from your orgasm, but whatever - to each his own.

If you want to bust your nut this way, and to your credit want to maintain your respectful conduct, then just come out and ask the girl directly. Either she'll be willing or not, so making yourself clearly understood is best. Try it with a girl you've seen before and get along well with or a girl who is fun. Adding a little bit to your tip would probably help.