AMP Tips and Guidelines

[TheGuitarMan]

How do you guys get these girls to do any sort of prostate massage? Every time I have asked they faked not understanding English well enough to know that I want a finger in my bum!

Some will but it's very rare. A lot of reviews will claim it just because the RA put in 1" of finger. That's not a PM. In San Jose I've heard of 3 that will do it and I plan on investigating soon.

[USTraveller]

Hey, when I call up and tell them I saw the ads, they all go dumb and says 'I don't know what you talking about'.

So I need a tip on how to call, what to say, how to lead their girls out from corner and get me rubbed. What's a good trick or magic word to get a firm appointment?

I agree with MD Bellamy. Been doing this for a long time and never called to make an appointment or ask questions. Even if you made an appointment, and someone shows up 10 minutes before your appointment time, you're going to be bumped. I have heard of people making an appointment with a certain provider, then they show up and that provider is unavailable. Seems like a waste of time plus there's a record of it. Walk ins are always welcome. YMMV of course.

-USTraveller.

[MD Bellamy]

Hey, when I call up and tell them I saw the ads, they all go dumb and says 'I don't know what you talking about'.

So I need a tip on how to call, what to say, how to lead their girls out from corner and get me rubbed. What's a good trick or magic word to get a firm appointment?

My guess is you're asking for too much information. I've booked an appointment only once, and then was bumped when I arrived. I just show up and have had a virtual 100% acceptance rate. Unless you're a long distance away, an appointment is unnecessary. If you turn to leave then, for them, that is money walking out the door!

Bottom line: Don't book, just go! Or, if you feel you must book, limit yourself to referring to the time and duration of the appointment.

[SukMaiCok]

Hey, when I call up and tell them I saw the ads, they all go dumb and says 'I don't know what you talking about'.

So I need a tip on how to call, what to say, how to lead their girls out from corner and get me rubbed. What's a good trick or magic word to get a firm appointment?

[Iamme Iam]

There are a few questions for you to consider. Is your favorite AMP girl a local? Usually they are from Flushing, Queens, NY. If you ask where they are from, most of the woman will answer Korea or China. But if you ask if they are living in Flushing,(or have relatives there) then you have an idea that they are safe and making pretty decent (non taxed) income. I have hobbyied in much of the country, I have never felt that an AMP woman was there against their will, they are usually driven by need for money (for their family) Ask another question: Where do you go on vacation? If China, then they have a green card (and passport) and travel both ways without issue. Many girls live at the AMP while they are there for a few weeks. The MMS may stay longer times, but most have families they support and want cash and time to visit. The trafficking mantra is used by Feminists to get around there hypocrisy about woman's "Choice" but the Feminists only mean abortion, not right to "sell" their bodies for cash. Rhode Island had (non illegal) prostitution as long as it was indoors, until about 5 years ago. They corrected a law, and that shut down many AMPs. The fight by the Feminists to shut dowm the AMPs did its real job, shut down the AMPs but didn't stop any trafficking, because the woman are middle income workers, and their "Choice" is to sell their services. I am sure there are quite a few cases of sex trafficking each year, but in AMPs, doubt that amounts to more than a dozen cases yearly. Now, how does Bill Clinton get around these laws? By traveling to his BFF's private island, where anything goes. https://nypost.com/2016/10/09/the-se...ffrey-epstein/.

First time poster. Wasn't sure where to post this, so decided to put it here. Relatively new to the hobby, and picked out an AMP about an hour away from where I live. Been there a handful of times, very pleased with service as I keep going back for a lady who does a fantastic job.

Problem comes in is I am VERY concerned about one thing: whether or not I am being serviced by a trafficked person. I really have no way to know, and if that's the case, I don't want any part of it. The place I frequent has raised some questions. Like the girls working 7 days a week and possibly living at the AMP. Then again I saw the post further down the page which discusses rotation schedules and such, but even if a girl is rotated, can she not still be a trafficking victim? Now on the flip side, the girls there compete for customers (which would mean they are getting the dollars they earn), have cell phones (which seems unlikely for a sex slave), and seem rather pleasant. But I don't know, am I being paranoid or not?

The FBI has upped its targeting of sex-trafficking exponentially, and massage parlors a major focus, which means that anything that even remotely smells like sex-trafficking is likely going to wind up a federal bust, not just local cops driving to drive out an unsightly business. Being part of federal bust of sex-trafficking. Even if innocent. Is more of a deterrent than just getting caught in one during a bust by local cops, questioned, and let go.

Not trying to frighten but the massage parlors in my area are getting busted more frequently. Any commentary would be appreciated, especially if anybody else has been having these concerns lately.

[TJMax70]

First time poster. Wasn't sure where to post this, so decided to put it here. Relatively new to the hobby, and picked out an AMP about an hour away from where I live. Been there a handful of times, very pleased with service as I keep going back for a lady who does a fantastic job.

Problem comes in is I am VERY concerned about one thing: whether or not I am being serviced by a trafficked person. I really have no way to know, and if that's the case, I don't want any part of it. The place I frequent has raised some questions. Like the girls working 7 days a week and possibly living at the AMP. Then again I saw the post further down the page which discusses rotation schedules and such, but even if a girl is rotated, can she not still be a trafficking victim? Now on the flip side, the girls there compete for customers (which would mean they are getting the dollars they earn), have cell phones (which seems unlikely for a sex slave), and seem rather pleasant. But I don't know, am I being paranoid or not?

The FBI has upped its targeting of sex-trafficking exponentially, and massage parlors a major focus, which means that anything that even remotely smells like sex-trafficking is likely going to wind up a federal bust, not just local cops driving to drive out an unsightly business. Being part of federal bust of sex-trafficking. Even if innocent. Is more of a deterrent than just getting caught in one during a bust by local cops, questioned, and let go.

Not trying to frighten but the massage parlors in my area are getting busted more frequently. Any commentary would be appreciated, especially if anybody else has been having these concerns lately.

[Hugh Japenis]

How do you guys get these girls to do any sort of prostate massage? Every time I have asked they faked not understanding English well enough to know that I want a finger in my bum!

[Max Effort]

Another observation from FS visits, during regular hours, (even when working alone) the girls tend to be quiet, and ask you to be quiet. Is this because the AMP computer has a microphone and a camera? Maybe, what I have found is, an early visit will bring out the wild woman sometimes.

I'm glad you brought up the quiet part. I have considered they might have a listening device to make sure a customer isn't being a complete jackass. More often than not, I thought the quiet part was due to neighboring businesses and thin walls. Haha. I'm still bad at forgetting the quiet part. When I go to a place I haven't been before, I keep talking at the start of the session to gauge what our communication level is. I always end up overdoing it and eventually get the finger to my lips followed by a SHHHHHHHHHH. Haha.

[Iamme Iam]

The hints for newbies are very helpful, and I agree with them. I have a few hints myself. Obviously the more times you visit, the better the service can become, but, like a prior monger mentioned, there are limits or rules at different AMPs. Some allow clothes off with a HJ, others only UTC or OTC, I won't put up with that stuff more than 2 visits myself. If FS is available, then my experience may help, I call a regular for an appointment to visit an hour before opening hour. This allows the girls to be more open to what you want to do, the regular you get to know, if she offers FS, will of course say,'Only for you" , or something similar. Another observation from FS visits, during regular hours, (even when working alone) the girls tend to be quiet, and ask you to be quiet. Is this because the AMP computer has a microphone and a camera? Maybe, what I have found is, an early visit will bring out the wild woman sometimes. I see 2 woman regularly, both make a great deal more noise when we are DATY or FS, also if they like you, the "only you" comment can come out when you attempt BBFS, both the ladies I see don't say no, they seem to enjoy the experience more. (sometimes they fake an orgasm, sometimes you can feel them yourself.

The other comment, for a visit to a new (FS) place, when they say "$60 for hour" hand then the $60, and then place $100 and a condom down so they can see it. The girls will either say no, and you take the money back, or agree.

[Frosty047]

This was a great thread for a newbie. Lots of good info! Thanks all!

In regards to the 4 hands, I got upsold on one of these in BKK and I enjoyed it. I really think it's YMMV depending on the girls you get just like with normal massages. I think to make it worth it, you should do 1. 5 hours or 2 hours, got to go 3 times. But then again, never had 4 hands for an hour, so take it as it is.

Also, is tantric massage the same as prostate? I'm really curious as I heard prostate massages take you to a whole 'nother level!

[Max Effort]

I usually like to pick off hours and off days. I don't go the week after a majority of people get their paycheck. I try to stick with after they open or a couple hours after lunchtime. I usually stay away during evening. Just my opinion. If it's a 2 person operation, you might have a chance of getting boring service because it is almost the end of their workday and they just want it over with. Haha. Not true in larger cities where they probably have staggered schedules, but that is my thought process. So basically I think anything after 430 pm is a no go for me. Maybe 7 pm on a Tuesday is the latest. This could also change if you become a regular at the small shop. You might get extra benefits once you get to know mama.

[HotBoss]

My experience has been the same as USTraveller reported above, and I also try to shoot for the days and times that I think my favorite spot is likely to be LESS busy. I would also say that, in my experience, local markets are going to vary slightly, so what you have in Manhattan-NYC may be slightly different than local practices in Philly, or Tampa, or Dallas, or LA, etc. What seems to be most common is that MOST AMPs staff their talent from open to close, so whoever is there in the morning is probably also there in the evening. As USTraveller stated, it's not like "shift change" at a club, or even the "shift change" at many AMERICAN "service shops" (where private FS sessions may (or may not) take place).

Further, since MOST Asian MP's, that I've been to, bring their talent in, the girls are likely also there 7 days a week through their rotation period. Rotation periods vary by AMP or even by market, but it would be common for AMPs to rotate their staff anywhere from every few weeks to a couple of months. There may be a week where any given girl takes a short vacation to have some personal time, and then returns to the same location to resume work. There are also those smaller AMPs that ALWAYS have the same girls there, as they are either owner-operators, or otherwise permanently stationed at one location. This may be more common in a market like Manhattan-NYC, where I suspect there is sufficient customer demand to justify simply retaining talent for longer periods, or even permanently (although I really have no idea what the NYC market is like). What I DO know is that in my local Florida market, I've seen a number of AMP's that rotate their talent in from NYC, although I think it's mostly from Queens, or other boroughs, as well as from LA. I interpret this as an indicator that NYC and SoCal must have the MOST talent available to serve as hubs of talent-pools (purely a guess).

I agree with most of what you've written.

It's very rare to find a massage parlor staffed by indentured labor and today's therapists can move around freely from town to town. We often talk about the "rotation" of women. If the "boss" owns more than 1 massage parlor, a girl may be asked to change locations to cover a shortage or for other reasons. Like American labor, the grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence. A girl in Waco, Texas may tell her friend in Toledo, Ohio that she is making a lot of money. The girl in Toledo hops on a plane and goes to Texas. The boss in Toledo then advertises the job opening on Chinese social media and recruits a new therapist. It's really that simple.

When a boss advertises a job opening, the ad describes the shop, the policies, and often specifies age requirements. Some shops want older or married women and some will only hire young women. Some spas strictly monitor the girls and some don't. Even at the most legit massage parlors, a girl may choose to offer extras when alone with a customer that she trusts. Most of the women come here to see America and massage is a way to finance their adventures. They often travel to cities like New York or Chicago in order to visit the Embassy or a Consulate to maintain their Visas, work permits, etc. They also prefer Chinese doctors and other professionals located in or near Chinatown.

I've also found that women don't work shifts at the massage parlors. The women that open in the morning also closes the store at night. They eat, sleep, and clean between customers. At night they go to an employer provided apartment or sleep at the massage parlor. They can afford there own apartment but they don't want to be tied down to a location. This way they can leave or travel on a whim.

I have frequented massage parlors in many cities over many years. A modern AMP is a privately owned small business that does not want trouble and is not part of a secret Chinese criminal organization that forces girls to provide sex acts. This may exist (perhaps in a big city), but it is rare and not the normal neighborhood AMP. A totally legit massage parlor will occasionally have employees that break policy and offer extras. Some massage parlors are a sure thing but visiting a new place and not knowing how the massage will end can be part of the fun.

[MrBill469]

Does the time of day effect who you get? I try to go on off hours late morning / early afternoon, but I can't help but get worried that all of the hot girls will be off at those times, would there be a good balance for that in between?

Personally, picking the Time of Day for me means go when it's less busy. The quality of talent may or may not be affected. A place with Hot, Young ladies will probably have them all day. A place with mature ladies will probably have the same 2 or 3 all day. Later afternoon and evening is when it picks up with the doorbell ringing every 10 minutes. YMMV at any time with any girl at one of these places.

It's not like the afternoon shift at a strip club.

-USTraveller.

My experience has been the same as USTraveller reported above, and I also try to shoot for the days and times that I think my favorite spot is likely to be LESS busy. I would also say that, in my experience, local markets are going to vary slightly, so what you have in Manhattan-NYC may be slightly different than local practices in Philly, or Tampa, or Dallas, or LA, etc. What seems to be most common is that MOST AMPs staff their talent from open to close, so whoever is there in the morning is probably also there in the evening. As USTraveller stated, it's not like "shift change" at a club, or even the "shift change" at many AMERICAN "service shops" (where private FS sessions may (or may not) take place).

Further, since MOST Asian MP's, that I've been to, bring their talent in, the girls are likely also there 7 days a week through their rotation period. Rotation periods vary by AMP or even by market, but it would be common for AMPs to rotate their staff anywhere from every few weeks to a couple of months. There may be a week where any given girl takes a short vacation to have some personal time, and then returns to the same location to resume work. There are also those smaller AMPs that ALWAYS have the same girls there, as they are either owner-operators, or otherwise permanently stationed at one location. This may be more common in a market like Manhattan-NYC, where I suspect there is sufficient customer demand to justify simply retaining talent for longer periods, or even permanently (although I really have no idea what the NYC market is like). What I DO know is that in my local Florida market, I've seen a number of AMP's that rotate their talent in from NYC, although I think it's mostly from Queens, or other boroughs, as well as from LA. I interpret this as an indicator that NYC and SoCal must have the MOST talent available to serve as hubs of talent-pools (purely a guess).

[USTraveller]

Does the time of day effect who you get? I try to go on off hours late morning / early afternoon, but I can't help but get worried that all of the hot girls will be off at those times, would there be a good balance for that in between?

Personally, picking the Time of Day for me means go when it's less busy. The quality of talent may or may not be affected. A place with Hot, Young ladies will probably have them all day. A place with mature ladies will probably have the same 2 or 3 all day. Later afternoon and evening is when it picks up with the doorbell ringing every 10 minutes. YMMV at any time with any girl at one of these places.

It's not like the afternoon shift at a strip club.

-USTraveller.

[AshRein]

Does the time of day effect who you get? I try to go on off hours late morning / early afternoon, but I can't help but get worried that all of the hot girls will be off at those times, would there be a good balance for that in between?