2005 Archived General Reports

[10safe0sory]

Back again after a LONG hiatus. First I couldn't find the new board, and second I made the mistake of thinking I was in love again. Yeah right!! No bad feelings, but just wan't worth the effort to me. Have been around my usual haunts, Boulder and near downtown. Most who remember the old board know I only get with sw. Anyway, it is spotty as normal on the highway, sometimes OK and sometimes not. Best times is around 11pm-3am. Most are just old and worn out but the occasional hottie can be found but the locations are hit or miss and they are scooped up quickly. Have found some on Trop between Boulder and Koval. That's a long stretch and again its realy hit or miss. I ALWAYS take a long time before and look around a LONG time before striking so I miss a lot to the guys who strike quick, but then again I still am free. That's more important. More to follow............. Be careful out there.

[Robert387]

I've found consistent success ($100 cbj) roaming the Imperial Palace-Harrahs-Casino Royale stretch in the 4:00-6:00 a.m. range. (I gamble enough at the IP and CR to get a comped room which I use solely for mongering.) Most 6's & 7's readily agree to that rate; an occasional 9 will snub her nose at the suggestion as she passes through for her last encounter of the evening at the Venetian or Wynn. Yesterday morning I chatted up a solid 8 as she entered the Casino Royale. I didn't bring protection, so I asked if she had a condom along, to which she said no. A hooker with no protection along?! She said she'd get one (sort of motioning to the back of the casino) while I booked a room. This seemed odd, since I wasn't aware of any gift shop in the CR. Turns out no room was available, and when I went looking for her I spotted her in the back corner of the casino socializing with two security guys. I watched from a distance to see if they were questioning her, and that clearly wasn't the case; they were definitely laughing and joking. This was one of those JDSR (Just Doesn't Seem Right) situations, so I was about to leave when she spotted me and came over. I told her about the room situation, and said I'd catch her some other time. She suggested a "car date" in a nearby parking structure right now, but I declined. (I never did think to ask if she got a condom and, if so, where.)

In any event, here's a couple of questions for the more experienced Wastrel-like veterans: What do you make of the socializing with security personnel? I know that most casinos tolerate working girls, but this was way over the line. Was "something up" here? 2) What about the car date in a parking structure -- have you done it, safe environment, etc.?

[Speck]

There is a chubby blonde that generally works the Flamingo. She came onto me STRONG including rubbing her titties on me as we walked through the casino. She looked extraordinarily sad/disappointed that I turned her down. But for $200, I ain't doing a chubby girl. She is cute, and nice rack, but not worth $200 to me. Oh yeah, the place next door is O'Sheas and serves Guinness but their single deck BJ sucks(no pun intended) because it only pays 6:5 on BJ.

I was staying at the Flamingo last weekend. Did not have a car to go to my usual place off of Spring Mnt so I was stuck with trying to liquor up girls next to me at the tables. No go as I got more drunk than them and lost a whole bunch the first night.

Went to a couple of meetings and was trying to come out ahead on my last night till 3 AM or so, but just could not wing it! SO I head over to "O'Leary's" ( I think) for some grub. ON my way back to the Casino, I was scared by this girl that appeared out of nowhere behind some slots! But wow! All I was were her twins yapping at me!

She wanted 4$. I told her NOT a chance after what I had lost! She then went down to 3$. But I said all I've got is 2$ left and I would not mind playing some more BJ to get something back. Well, after much talking, I got her to the room and found out how heavy she was as I was trying to hoist her up! JESUS! Almost threw out my back!

But her twins were VERY NICE!

Word: Only drink after the deed!

PP

[Guady1]

Comm,

I think you are right, it may have been Royal Manor.

I only met that woman because I had a dealer friend who knew that dealer. My story was only to point out what is happening to alot of the people who live here.

Judging by the threads, you can see. The one about a stripper being in PS. I saw a cw at my job take a date to his room, come back down and gambled it right back into the casino.

I made friends with this asian cw. She would tell me alot of what was going on out there. Alot of girls make big money, but they don't have money management skills-I guess that is where the pimps think they can help.

Speaking of pimps, did anyone see the news about that one pimp who got busted. He was in a movie called American Pimp. You really should rent that tape. That reality of life was how young and good looking he appeared in the film (which wasn't made that long ago) and in the t.v. interview, he was very old looking like life (or the toll of prison) had taken on him.

They are going to crack down on pimps with a new law. Won't do much really, just make the other pimps alittle richer until a replacement comes.

I think cw's are your best bet in this town, the problem with me is I live here.
With street action you risk the chance of being picked up just by talking to one of the sw's, LE knows these girls folks, if you are talking to them its not about what time the Stardust opens.

I used to love AMP's but not here, Its gambling if you ask me. You pay your money and you are not sure what you are getting? Good mongering know what they getting up front, no games.

As far as in-call services, I haven't tried any yet, but it sounds like you need to talk to others who have gone.

[Robert387]

Was staying a PS last Sat. night and stopped playing BJ every hour or so to take a tour of the casino bars for any opportunities. No luck throughout the evening and was about ready to give up when at 1 a.m. I spotted a fairly attractive gal seated at the end of the Trax Bar with an "I-lost-my-dog" look. She's not giving me or any other passers-by "the look" and she's not dressed to draw attention to herself. After a few passes I settle in next to her and make small talk. Turns out she's a stripper from Olympic Gardens who just got off work, gambled her $160 earnings away, and was now wondering how she was going to be able to get to her room on the south end of the strip. I suggested that my $100 for a cbj in my room would help her solve that problem. She was seemingly shocked at the suggestion, and said that she didn't sleep around. I was about to apologize and excuse myself, when she decided that she was attracted to me after all! She then asked if I'd buy her a drink, which turned out to be a double.

Once in the room, a series of upsell moves came out. First it was $150 for full service. I declined. She then said she shouldn't have agreed to $100 because she needed an extra $50 to get her kid out of daycare. (Daycare at 1 a.m.? She almost sounded like she needed the $50 to get the kid out of hock.) She then said that if I gave her $50 more now she'd give me $100 worth of lapdances next time she worked at OG. (That's a new one: selling "futures" on lapdances.)

Finally I told her to quit the upsell and take care of business as agreed upon. Although she was in her late 30's, she had a stripper's body: tall, slender, enhanced boobs, etc. The deed was done and I sent her on her way, but only after she tried the "cab-fare request" as her final attempt at getting more payment. Bottom line is that I was surprised to find that kind of action at a locals' casino like Palace Station.

[Plasma Spray]

I was staying at the Flamingo last weekend. Did not have a car to go to my usual place off of Spring Mnt so I was stuck with trying to liquor up girls next to me at the tables. No go as I got more drunk than them and lost a whole bunch the first night.

Went to a couple of meetings and was trying to come out ahead on my last night till 3 AM or so, but just could not wing it! SO I head over to "O'Leary's" ( I think) for some grub. ON my way back to the Casino, I was scared by this girl that appeared out of nowhere behind some slots! But wow! All I was were her twins yapping at me!

She wanted 4$. I told her NOT a chance after what I had lost! She then went down to 3$. But I said all I've got is 2$ left and I would not mind playing some more BJ to get something back. Well, after much talking, I got her to the room and found out how heavy she was as I was trying to hoist her up! JESUS! Almost threw out my back!

But her twins were VERY NICE!

Word: Only drink after the deed!

PP

[Speck]

What an excellent first post dude!

I was in Vegas from Thursday through today. My experience somewhat mirrors yours. Warning: Only some content on sw's. Much of this relates to gambling, and downtown lv in general.

Hit Vegas Thursday afternoon. I could not believe the TONS of sw walking around the Stewart/Ogden/Fremont/Carson from LV bl down to about Brice(sic?) area. Saw a few I liked for once, but could not even get close to any of them. I saw a couple of Metro on bikes, and then a couple more and decided I would be better off checking into my room. Grabbed some grub then rolled out. Downtown still seemed LE heavy so I headed down to Boulder Station/Sams Town area. Saw a few sw out by Castaways. One cute blonde got snatched up before I could catch her. The others were meh so I drove a little further. No luck. Hit downtown again and the streets were relatively empty. Went to gamble. Played BJ and in between frequent restroom trips, kept hitting craps. Lost $385 on the night. It was only 1am and I was kinda pissed and did not want to gamble anymore. I hit the u shaped bar at binions, then Lady Luck, and even Gold Spike searching for something resembling a working girl, but no luck. I rolled over to Golden Gate to play $3 craps(5x odds), but the tables were shut down. I realized how hungry I was and grabbed a sandwich, 2 beers, and a $0.99 shrimp cocktail from the deli. Downed my chow and was about to leave. Noticed the middle aged rather plain looking but still do-able bartender so I pulled up for a beer. Soon realized my mistake as she went on about her kids and exuded negative sexual vibes. On top of it, I got to hear about how the drunk, aging guy sitting next to me smoked crack for the first time in his life with a crack ho. Eh. I've been in worse spots in my life, but I can't think of anything specific at the moment. I went to sleep after 4am.

Next morning woke up feeling like crap...so I went back to sleep. About 4pm, I hit the car wash there on LV Bl. and Stewart. Damn that place is ghetto. First car wash where I have ever seen white guys working. Guess crack addicts gotta work somewhere. Lots of really nice cars there. There was one fine ass girl playing the slots there, but she seemed insanely addicted and only looked up to give me a look that said "stay the F away". So anyway, while my car is getting washed, I get a bargain priced $4 shoe shine from this old guy with only one good eye. Sitting next to me is a local crack ho. Not entirely unattractive, but really messed up teeth. Think every Brittish stereotype there is. So I listen as she talks to the one eyed shoe shine guy. Shes going on about how messed up her life is and this and that then turns to me and starts talking to me about it. Overall, good shoe shine, and excellent entertainment. Thinking back, I really should have asked her if she had any friends she could hook me up with. I hit out to Boulder hwy. I think I saw the blonde hottie that Frumpy refered to near Boulder Station, but she disappeared quick. Again nada, so I headed back downtown. A few sw out...this is about 7pm, but nothing attractive. I head down to Wynn for some poker. Wow there are some amazing hotties there. The cocktail waitresses are gorgeous too. Spent about 4 hours getting hammered(by the drinks and by the cards). Wound up stuck $474. Crap. So I head back downtown in no mood to gamble. I pull up stakes at the Horseshoe bar around 1am. Some goofy guy is talking to a relatively unattractive woman next to me, clearly trying to get her to go up to his room. She is having none of it and she is clearly relived to be rid of him. She starts talking to me, and I start drinking heavily trying to find some way to make her attractive. It ain't working. So we just talk. Then this brunette pulls up. She has sort of a bob/pageboy type haircut. Big eyes, nice body, but burned out face. Shes gotta be early forties...maybe just a little bit of a rough life. I'm trying to figure out is shes a working girl. Some douche comes up, and I guess had plans already to meet her there. Turns out she is an employee of a nearby casino(I know where, I just don't want to say). So anyway, I watch douche torture me for an hour by failing to close the deal. Anytime you can get a middle aged woman, who clearly was once a complete hottie, but has now been time ravaged, to meet you in a casino bar at 2am, and she's drinking and smoking, you should be able to close the deal in a matter of minutes. After a while I get tired of watching, tell the unattractive one good night, and go back to my room to rub one out.

Saturday was not good. Nothing much out downtown. The one I was contemplating was about 70 lbs overweight and that helped me contemplate no. Hit the casinos again. Finally win a bit back and finish the night up $235. About midnight, I start hitting every downtown casino looking for something good. I find nothing(didn't venture down to El Cortez or Western though). I go back to Binions and spot the $4.99 sirloin steak special. I go into the coffee shop and get that. Not bad. Comes with baked potatoes and veggies. The steak wasn't small either. Cooked correctly...tasted good although A1 was required. Replenished and happy, I headed upstairs to find no ho's yet again. I headed over to LV Club. I see the attractive brunette from the night before sitting with a couple at the bar. I pull up, and notice a loud group to my left. A kinda nerdy looking girl asks me some stupid questions. She is clearly on the verge of barfing from excessive alcohol consumption and I try to keep a couple feet distance. She is with a group that is really drunk and seems quite intent on harassing the older gentleman sitting between them and me. Said harassment includes getting him to drink something called "f---ing awesome" which the old guy clearly does not enjoy. They also insist on taking pictures with the old guy which I'm certain are destined for some web page out there. The pictures also drew the ire/wrath of casino security. Anywho, there is no opportunity for me to hit on the brunette. After she leaves, and the loud group leaves, the old guy (btw, missing at least two of his lower teeth) proceeds to explain to me how the cute brunette was giving him looks all night. Yeah right. I get tired and head off to sleep.

So another Vegas trip with no hook ups. Still, it saves me $200-300 more that a room on the strip would cost, and also saves me the $200 I would dropp on a strip cg.

[ClitCommander]

Speaking of BH, there is a place, weekly rental, that looks like a castle, that I got lucky a couple of years ago. Picked up a woman, who was a dealer but had a bad gambling habit. She was desperate for money.

I think if we hung out at some of these cash advance places, we could probably make a score. this woman made good money but thought she could beat the casino at their own game.

There were alot of seedy people in that complex, I left to do the deed somewhere else. I haven't been in that area as far as mongering but I will check it soon.

Gaudy, that sounds like the Royal Manor on Trop and Boulder. I have picked up a few SW's there, but its hit or miss. You're right about it being seedy. Be careful because LVMPD categorizes that area as high crime (i.e. robbery, assault, drugs and of course prostitution).

[Guady1]

Speaking of BH, there is a place, weekly rental, that looks like a castle, that I got lucky a couple of years ago. Picked up a woman, who was a dealer but had a bad gambling habit. She was desperate for money.

I think if we hung out at some of these cash advance places, we could probably make a score. this woman made good money but thought she could beat the casino at their own game.

There were alot of seedy people in that complex, I left to do the deed somewhere else. I haven't been in that area as far as mongering but I will check it soon.

[Wastrel]

Anyway, she mentioned that she had a house that she got locked out of because she owed rent and her money was inside. This is the part where my brain stopped working and the little brain took over. Said she needed $46 to cover the rest of her rent and we could go there and take care of business. LOL are you thinking idiot yet.

Not at all. It happens once to everyone in this game. The term "idiot" only applies if it happens twice. It's an old scam, and it got that way becuase it still works. This is one reason I prefer to take the cute little witch out of her turf a bit.

Since I haven't yet found anyone to install a rocket-propelled automatic bad-hooker ejection seat for times like that, I suggest before "loaning" her the rent money you develop an urgent need to stop for a bottle of water or something, send her into an inconvenience store with about two dollars to fetch it, and leave as soon as the Minute Mart door hits her in the ass. If she discovers an immediate need for a few extra dollars for a soda or something for herself, I suggest you'll be needing her to leave her shoes in the car while you're still learning to, ahem, develop trust in your coming relationship. Honking, waving to her, and blowing a kiss on your way out of the lot is optional, and tossing out her shoes within a quarter mile of the witch dump is not recomended.

Wastrel say: "Never call a hooker a rip-off-witch 'till you've travelled a mile in her shoes. Then, you will be a mile away; and you will have her shoes."

[Member #3943]

Drais , yes I went there last year around christmas time when I was ther , Im 50 and really felt out of place , but once I got back to cleopatras barge it was like heaven!!!!!!!!

[Vanderley]

Hey all. Any of you guys have any comments on the action at the Barbary Coast nightclub...

Drai's doesn't start picking up until after 5. It's hands down the best club Vegas has to offer in my opinion, but you won't find any working girls there unfortunately. The crowd is generally in the 21-35 yr old range. I wouldn't recommend this place if you're any older than that. A lot of the girls I've found there are "off duty" showgirls, hot as hell, just out having a good time with their girlfriends after a hard night's work. If you got what it takes to score with hot girls on a regular basis, this will be a goldmine for you. Otherwise, I would stay away. Good luck.

[Billygeek]

Hey all. Any of you guys have any comments on the action at the Barbary Coast nightclub that is open between 2am and 8am? Waited in line once for about an hour, but they only seemed to be taking in people that would buy $300 table service (!). The girls in line looked decent, but no Hard-Rock types.

Taking a pal for the first time to LV in a couple of weeks. Any comments much appreciated.

[frumpy]

Just wanted to leave a little summary of my visit this week.

Arrived Monday morning about 8am and went to check out the locations that I have read about. Not much luck, saw a few SW, 1 in particular seemed odd. She was a blond that looked very nice. Probably a 9 on the SW scale IMO. She was walking south on Boulder Highway and when I and about 6 others pulled over to talk she would just smile and ignore you. Maybe she wasn't a SW but she was definatly out of place for the area if she wasn't, plus I saw her 3 more times during the week and same thing she would look and smile but say nothing. Must have watched 10 cars on Thursday just keep looping around. Odd. She was out during the afternoon south of the lamplighter maybe someone can figure it out. I spent the rest of monday cruising around looking until about 3am. Found alot of girls getting busted but other than that nothing I would touch. Funny thing about this town is how hard it is to tell the tourist from the SW. Oh yea talked to a casino girl in a cab who was headed to the IP. Very nice but out of my league.

Tuesday night I went out again and found a decent looking WSW on Boulder wearing a red ball cap. Picked her up and was looking for a place to park, she wanted to do her job while I was driving, and I declined. She seemed more than willing and nice, said she was a stripper at spearmint rhino. Anyway, she mentioned that she had a house that she got locked out of because she owed rent and her money was inside. This is the part where my brain stopped working and the little brain took over. Said she needed $46 to cover the rest of her rent and we could go there and take care of business. LOL are you thinking idiot yet. Well we went there and I forked over $50 and she got out and disappeared. So I sat there in disbelief for about 30 mins. Damn that was stupid was all I could think. So reality finally set in and I drove my dumbass back to the hotel and took a walk up the strip. Ended up at the Imperial Palace, and stopped in at the karoake bar in fromt of it and spent the rest of the night there until about 1am. Very nice place to listen to some good singers. On the walk from Excalibur to the IP I think I saw about 6 SW and a couple Casino girls going into the casinos. On the way back I think I saw about 6 more SW. Very nice looking girl I stopped and talked to didn't want anything to do with the Excalibur. In fact every girl on the strip I talked to the whole week, when I mention the Excalibur the would just go the other way and ignore me. Must be bad experiences there

Wednesday I gave up on the mongering to go to Gilleys mud wrestling and just check out the females running around on the strip. The mud wrestling was great, I went in about 8:50 to avoid the $10 cover. The mudwrestling was supposed to start @ 10pm but I believe it was 10:45 by the time it started. But well worth the wait. There was like 8 girls, young, 5 of them were just beautiful. The others weren't bad at all. If you come to Vegas I would highly recommend going. Probably the best night of all for me.

Thursday, went looking around lunch time for SW again saw the blond on boulder that wouldn't talk to anyone. But clearly acting like a SW. Dunno. After going in about 5 circles with 5 other cars I gave up and headed down towards Sams town. Walking next to the walgreens by ST there was a redhead with a full pink body suit walking. I mean she just stuck out. So I pulled into a gas station right there and watched her. She kinda lolly gagged around and then finally came across the street over to my car. I unlocked the door and motioned her in but she gave me a roll down the window sign. So I did. She proceeded to ask me what I was looking for. I said hop in lets go for a ride. She said what you think I am a cop. So she showed me her tits. Now she was good looking 8/10. With a pink body suit. Standing outside my car and she said "you want a BJ". To which I mumbled, not sure what to think about the situation and remembering my other stupidity, "well I don't know". She said "How much, all these guys only want to pay 20-30" and I said "well thats ok I am going to leave now." So she finally gets in the car and says 100. I said no. Can I give you a ride somewhere. She was headed to Sams. So I gave here a short ride over there. She basically said she was from Memphis and was working the casinos. normally she would ask for 250 but wanted to get an early start so she was barganing @100. Personally she wasn't worth 250, but 100 may have been a good deal. Well I dropped her off and headed back to the hotel for supper.
After supper I went back out cause this was my last night so I wanted to finally get my release. So I head over and take a trip around again and guess who I saw. Little miss in the red hat who stiffed me a couple nights ago. haha. I pulled over and kinda drove slow next to her to see if she recognized me. She ignored me and then finally stopped walking. I said what happened the other night. Then she started making excuses. I said whatever get in and I'll give you a ride. She felt very bad about what happened. She offered to double do me if I would give here 30 more. I said how long you got. 45 mins she said. lol. nope you still owe me from the other night. So found a place to park and she redeemed herself. haha, I was hopeing I would see her again. When she finished she still wanted more money. FU, get out. lol. How she must have hated seeing me again. Her name was Sara so if you see her make sure you follow the rules with her, service first then money. Plus as far as I am concerned she still owes me about 25 worth of service.

That concludes my trip. Hope you enjoyed my story, I know it was long but kinda feel good about my redemption in the end.

[Speck]

I'm flying in this Sunday, can anyone point me to some high mileage areas.

No, they can't. They do not exist without major dollars. Not even then most of the time.

I dont care about these high class places or women. I just want to enjoy myself and relax.

Uh, wrong idea for a Vegas forum. Vegas isn't nearly the same as Frog Scrotum Junction, AK