Delaware Douchebaggery!

[WeatherMan2]

So I got a reply from this "dude". Instead of being contrite, he was accusatory and snotty. I guess I called it right. ENTITLED!

Got offended that I suggested he participate in the threads and build some cred in order to get info? LOL.

Look dude! You were wrong.

Why don't you earn some cred on the boards, by posting some reviews? Yes! A lot of guys here think sharing info on UTR girls IS "sacrosanct!" Why should anyone GIVE you info for free that cost us time, energy, risk and experience? Why just because you ASKED and are entitled?

Some of the point is that there are a lot of numbnuts that treat girls badly and IF one sends a dude (douche) to a girl and the douche is a bad date for the girl, then the guy who sent the douche to the girl could lose the girl and lose a regular.

So you proved my point of not sharing, you come off like a douchebag, assh*le, jerk and then got angry! So no doubt would be one that fucks up my relationship with a gem. But NO! My bad, you asked and are 'entitled"! LOL!

You want something from someone and this is your approach? Me thinks you should ask for your money back from the Dale Carnegie Course!

So don't waste your time asking, spend it on learning, getting an education and posting experiences here. That's how simple it works!

So stop being a douchebag with you hand out, contribute something, join the community be part of the solution, not the ugly side of the hobby.

Has anyone guessed yet who this dude is?

No guesses, and who cares? Based off proir experiences I'm going to assume everything your ranting about what this guy said or did is exaggerated by you.

[Shampoo55]

So I get a DM from a dude. Go to open it up and it has a "Read Receipt" attached to it! WTF! Then it is some dude with a VERY low post count (2) that has his hand out wanting info on a girl I posted about. He is apparently "entitled" as he doesn't offer anything in return for the gem I developed. Oh and he challenges my veracity, I guess, in a feeble attempt to make me feel "challenged" and want to spill the beans to "prove" my report! Sigh. Must have flunked the "Dale Carnegie" course?

So kind Sir, YOU are the reason for this RANT!

So I got a reply from this "dude". Instead of being contrite, he was accusatory and snotty. I guess I called it right. ENTITLED!

Got offended that I suggested he participate in the threads and build some cred in order to get info? LOL.

Look dude! You were wrong.

Why don't you earn some cred on the boards, by posting some reviews? Yes! A lot of guys here think sharing info on UTR girls IS "sacrosanct!" Why should anyone GIVE you info for free that cost us time, energy, risk and experience? Why just because you ASKED and are entitled?

Some of the point is that there are a lot of numbnuts that treat girls badly and IF one sends a dude (douche) to a girl and the douche is a bad date for the girl, then the guy who sent the douche to the girl could lose the girl and lose a regular.

So you proved my point of not sharing, you come off like a douchebag, assh*le, jerk and then got angry! So no doubt would be one that fucks up my relationship with a gem. But NO! My bad, you asked and are 'entitled"! LOL!

You want something from someone and this is your approach? Me thinks you should ask for your money back from the Dale Carnegie Course!

So don't waste your time asking, spend it on learning, getting an education and posting experiences here. That's how simple it works!

So stop being a douchebag with you hand out, contribute something, join the community be part of the solution, not the ugly side of the hobby.

Has anyone guessed yet who this dude is?

[J Richard]

So I get a DM from a dude. Go to open it up and it has a "Read Receipt" attached to it! WTF! Then it is some dude with a VERY low post count (2) that has his hand out wanting info on a girl I posted about. He is apparently "entitled" as he doesn't offer anything in return for the gem I developed. Oh and he challenges my veracity, I guess, in a feeble attempt to make me feel "challenged" and want to spill the beans to "prove" my report! Sigh. Must have flunked the "Dale Carnegie" course?

So kind Sir, YOU are the reason for this RANT!

So WTF is up with using a "read receipt?" I guess some don't understand this is just plain BAD FORM! What is so important in the monger world as to REQUIRE a read receipt??? A Guy either reads your PM and responds or doesn't. What does adding a "read receipt" do for you? You some kind of LE that needs to make certain that your note was read? LOL While you CAN use that feature it is considered very bad form. Lesson #1.

Next, this dude appears to be questioning my veracity about what I got from a girl. SERIOUSLY? You are calling me a LIAR and then you want me to help and provide info? That technique doesn't work here! -100! To think what I found / developed was rare, just shows the level of inexperience the dude has. Learn to play the game and then one can develop gems and rates on their own. Or be a Simp and pay list price to any girl that catches your eye.

Second, I have been mongering for years and spent A LOT of time posting and in learning the hobby. This dude has 2 posts? He sent me an email request for help with a gem I found & developed and offered nothing in return. What's up with THAT? Dudes that have their hands out are just TAKERS! It isn't even clear if the dude has any experience to offer anything!

EDIT: Has one post where dude sent money upfront to a girl and then she asked for more before she'd give her address! Then he's warning about a rip-off! LOL!

Been around these boards long enough that I have seen WAY too many dudes with their hand out that have nothing to offer and are just TAKERS. You want private info? Have something to offer in return. PLUS you need some cred on the site. Two posts don't cut it! Go see some girls and provide some DETAILED reports of your experience. Details such that guys that have seen her can verify a true story. That's how it works here. CONTRIBUTE! It's that simple.

I dunno, maybe others are willing to be pimped for info with no expectation of anything in return. This chair has done enough charity work and continue to provide info, so clearly I've done my part. What part have you done?

I have talked to many mongers on here, and many don't post reviews of the UTR or near UTR girls anymore because there is always some dude who thinks he's entitled to the info without providing anything in return nor contributing to the community. Then they get hostile or angry because they didn't get what they asked for.

Go see some girls, post reports, contribute to the community, build some cred.

I'm just saying. To the many lurking dudes out there:

If you are an experienced monger and haven't contributed, then get off yer azz and be part of the community.

If you are new, then go on the threads and ask for advice on "how to" and learn how to play this game safely. No shame in being uneducated, that can be cured.

Good luck!

It is becoming more and more common both in private messages or openly in the forum.

There was one last week or two that provides a review of a SW, no location. Then wants to trade info where she "might" be found.

Seriously, someone that can change locations in ten minutes or disappear for ten days.

Then collect legit information of girls, while possibly providing a ghost location.

RR's that's occasional. But those that do are persistant, sometime rerentless and ask too many details.

[Shampoo55]

So I get a DM from a dude. Go to open it up and it has a "Read Receipt" attached to it! WTF! Then it is some dude with a VERY low post count (2) that has his hand out wanting info on a girl I posted about. He is apparently "entitled" as he doesn't offer anything in return for the gem I developed. Oh and he challenges my veracity, I guess, in a feeble attempt to make me feel "challenged" and want to spill the beans to "prove" my report! Sigh. Must have flunked the "Dale Carnegie" course?

So kind Sir, YOU are the reason for this RANT!

So WTF is up with using a "read receipt?" I guess some don't understand this is just plain BAD FORM! What is so important in the monger world as to REQUIRE a read receipt??? A Guy either reads your PM and responds or doesn't. What does adding a "read receipt" do for you? You some kind of LE that needs to make certain that your note was read? LOL While you CAN use that feature it is considered very bad form. Lesson #1.

Next, this dude appears to be questioning my veracity about what I got from a girl. SERIOUSLY? You are calling me a LIAR and then you want me to help and provide info? That technique doesn't work here! -100! To think what I found / developed was rare, just shows the level of inexperience the dude has. Learn to play the game and then one can develop gems and rates on their own. Or be a Simp and pay list price to any girl that catches your eye.

Second, I have been mongering for years and spent A LOT of time posting and in learning the hobby. This dude has 2 posts? He sent me an email request for help with a gem I found & developed and offered nothing in return. What's up with THAT? Dudes that have their hands out are just TAKERS! No contributions to the community, yet wants something for free! It isn't even clear if the dude has any experience to offer anything!

EDIT: Has one post where dude sent money upfront to a girl and then she asked for more before she'd give her address! Then he's warning about a rip-off! LOL!

Been around these boards long enough that I have seen WAY too many dudes with their hand out that have nothing to offer and are just TAKERS. You want private info? Have something to offer in return. PLUS you need some cred on the site. Two posts don't cut it! Go see some girls and provide some DETAILED reports of your experience. Details such that guys that have seen her can verify a true story. That's how it works here. CONTRIBUTE! It's that simple.

I dunno, maybe others are willing to be pimped for info with no expectation of anything in return. This chair has done enough charity work and continue to provide info, so clearly I've done my part. What part have you done?

I have talked to many mongers on here, and many don't post reviews of the UTR or near UTR girls anymore because there is always some dude who thinks he's entitled to the info without providing anything in return nor contributing to the community. Then they get hostile or angry because they didn't get what they asked for.

Go see some girls, post reports, contribute to the community, build some cred.

I'm just saying.

To the many lurking dudes out there:

If you are an experienced monger and haven't contributed, then get off yer azz and be part of the community.

If you are new, then go on the threads and ask for advice on "how to" and learn how to play this game safely. No shame in being uneducated, that can be cured.

Good luck!

[J Richard]

There are many reasons a girl can end up on a dude's "No Fly List".

Might be she is a scammer. Maybe she ripped the dude off: did a cash & dash. Maybe her BF attacked the monger. Perhaps she is a CI for LE. Perhaps she is dealing and always has something on her. Maybe she was so strung out on drugs she passed out. Maybe she tried to upsell the monger after the job was done? Maybe she got upset and kicking in the side of the dudes car. Perhaps a girl has another issue?

But if you flat out ignore the fact that some other dude has placed a girl on his "No Fly List," then you are lining yourself up for trouble. Oh sure, there are times when personalities clash, or a dude is jealous or someone tries to keep a girl to himself. But those are rare. SO, if you think that, then you should PM the poster and ask why he placed a girl on the NFL.

The old saying, "ignorance is bliss" sure doesn't apply here. Not knowing WHY a girl has been labeled NFL can be dangerous in more ways than one. Ignoring an NFL label just isn't a wise move.

Stay safe!

It this the exact same post as before?

Old Timers Setting In? Or am I screwed up and incorrect?

But either way, it's worth noting.

And as I said before, many of those that relocated from the Claymont area to Elkton did so not out of economics but for legal reasons, or in some instances many legal reasons.

So in the past I talked about variopus resources such as VL.

Here is another, but only good if you know the name (s) they same with VL.

Many of us do know some of their names so it can be helpful, or knowing how to use the information (both VL and this together).

Court dates, if they disappear on vacation, adding money to their account and the list goes on.

https://pubsrv.deljis.delaware.gov/W...c/Default.aspx

[Shampoo55]

There are many reasons a girl can end up on a dude's "No Fly List".

Might be she is a scammer. Maybe she ripped the dude off: did a cash & dash. Maybe her BF attacked the monger. Perhaps she is a CI for LE. Perhaps she is dealing and always has something on her. Maybe she was so strung out on drugs she passed out. Maybe she tried to upsell the monger after the job was done? Maybe she got upset and kicking in the side of the dudes car. Perhaps a girl has another issue?

But if you flat out ignore the fact that some other dude has placed a girl on his "No Fly List," then you are lining yourself up for trouble. Oh sure, there are times when personalities clash, or a dude is jealous or someone tries to keep a girl to himself. But those are rare. SO, if you think that, then you should PM the poster and ask why he placed a girl on the NFL.

The old saying, "ignorance is bliss" sure doesn't apply here. Not knowing WHY a girl has been labeled NFL can be dangerous in more ways than one. Ignoring an NFL label just isn't a wise move.

Stay safe!

[Shampoo55]

So I recently met Britt throw the girl Marie. They were selling content together. Which both girls had great content for sale. They're the only two I have sent money to upfront for content and received exactly what I was supposed to no games or bs. Very cute girls. I inquired about a 2 girl with them and they were down. It was 200 for the hhr, they didn't have a room yet and asked if I'd send the donation upfront and I agreed and not long after I received a message with room details. That almost never happens with anyone on the sites. Anyways I arrived and they were there waiting, looking amazing and the services were extraordinary and it was an awesome 3 way experience. I definitely recommend both girls (together or separate for a easy set up and a honestly great time.

I think this dude should have bought a lottery ticket!

This idea of sending $$$ upfront is just crazy. While it may work this one time, the next 9 times the dude is going to be posting in the Rip-off section.

Oh and dudes are paying for content as a pretext to dating girls? Huh? That's not necessary, just a new scam creeping into the hobby fueled by guys who are willing to be used. Why should a girl go to face to face real meets when some Simp will send them $ for pics. Is Forest Gump a reality?

Newbies should read & learn "the rules!

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...s-For-BackPage

Then again, since mongering is "easy" it's probably better for some to pay some tuition in the School of Mongering, get arrested or have their SO find their hobby. After all "book learning" is boring!

[J Richard]

So my system for knowing girls are not LE is I send them $5 for naked pictures. This does 2 things for me. One I know they are not LE and second all of them have their real names on cash app so that allows me to look them up on Facebook or other social media. She also quoted me 100 for ss but I was able to get her to agree to 65 but when it was time for me to meet she must have passed out for the day.

1. It is not illegal for LE to use or send a nude picture. It is illegal for pornograpic content.

2. Must be of legal age and consent to using picture for the intended purpose. Now the prosecutor in the area may or may not approve and that is another issue. Hell, the girl can be legit and now working with them. So your logic may amke you feel comfortable, but that is it.

3. If you show up at a location, not go inside or follow through, in some areas they still can bring charges, if they don't stick you still have the hassle as well as paper on you.

4. I was told Hailey has passed. Has anyone actually laid eyes on her in the past few weeks? ? ?

[Big Grip]

I texted snow a few weeks ago when I saw the ad on kitty ads. She quoted 100 for a short session. Told her I can't do that. I asked if she had a BJ only special. She said "rates are for my time not my performance" its just gotten outrageous anymore.

It sucks when a SW gets a room and advertises. The rates always go up.

[WeatherMan2]

The pic is of snow and her sister. I have seen both at different times but not together. Overall excellent dates.

Regular street prices not escorts prices.

I texted snow a few weeks ago when I saw the ad on kitty ads. She quoted 100 for a short session. Told her I can't do that. I asked if she had a BJ only special. She said "rates are for my time not my performance" its just gotten outrageous anymore.

[BillyBadass12]

Hey, thanks for sharing that additional info. Good to know. Seems like OP dated her at street rates and that 65 isn't that far off that level. That's better than what I was quoted!

BUT er, um, ah, How does that $5 pic stuff work? Seems like the CashApp thingie would go both ways? She shows her real name and you reveal yours?

Eh, maybe I'm old school and think that if the girl is in bidness she needs to do the things she needs to do to be in bidness. Sending ONE nude pic to verify who you are NOT seems reasonable. While I know sending $5 for pics as proof IS a way to do things, it seems to me to set a new bar that many girls will expect. Next thing you know it will be 100% - Buy my content in order to get a date with me. While all of that may work and IS a solution, it rubs me the wrong way in the "no money up front" genre.

Also, I would worry that sending money up front for pics "could" get me labeled as a mark. Girl gets a few bucks for next to no work and thus is willing to negotiate any price cause she knows she is going to ghost me. Since these girls always seem to room with each other or do doubles, seems like getting labeled would be a bad thing. Aren't women more sociable than guys and thus one could expect more sharing?

I dunno, just have a different view of things. But hey adaptation in the hobby is always a good thing.

Stay safe and thanks again for the info!

So I know I should not send them money as it makes it harder for the next guy. But with cash app I was able to put a fake name in so they don't get my real information. Sometimes I will only send them 2. 50 till I get the pictures and then I will send the other 2. 50 LOL but I agree they all should be sending out a nude picture to make the person feel safe that they are not LE. It was kinda my way of making sure the girl is real, I like what she looks like, and it's a simple way to possibly get her real name so I can do more digging.

[Shampoo55]

So my system for knowing girls are not LE is I send them $5 for naked pictures. This does 2 things for me. One I know they are not LE and second all of them have their real names on cash app so that allows me to look them up on Facebook or other social media. She also quoted me 100 for ss but I was able to get her to agree to 65 but when it was time for me to meet she must have passed out for the day.

Hey, thanks for sharing that additional info. Good to know. Seems like OP dated her at street rates and that 65 isn't that far off that level. That's better than what I was quoted!

BUT er, um, ah, How does that $5 pic stuff work? Seems like the CashApp thingie would go both ways? She shows her real name and you reveal yours?

Eh, maybe I'm old school and think that if the girl is in bidness she needs to do the things she needs to do to be in bidness. Sending ONE nude pic to verify who you are NOT seems reasonable. While I know sending $5 for pics as proof IS a way to do things, it seems to me to set a new bar that many girls will expect. Next thing you know it will be 100% - Buy my content in order to get a date with me. While all of that may work and IS a solution, it rubs me the wrong way in the "no money up front" genre.

Also, I would worry that sending money up front for pics "could" get me labeled as a mark. Girl gets a few bucks for next to no work and thus is willing to negotiate any price cause she knows she is going to ghost me. Since these girls always seem to room with each other or do doubles, seems like getting labeled would be a bad thing. Aren't women more sociable than guys and thus one could expect more sharing?

I dunno, just have a different view of things. But hey adaptation in the hobby is always a good thing.

Stay safe and thanks again for the info!

[BillyBadass12]

Thanks to all for the replies on Snow! Appreciate the link to the professional pics of Hailey!

BTW- how did you get a naked pic of her if you haven't seen her? LOL {how about posting some in the Pic Thread? She refused to send one or I would have dated her. Someone needs to "clue her in" that sending a naked pic demonstrates that she isn't LE. She's never heard of it, so I guess all those that have seen her before have not requested such?

Sorry that was my point, guess I wasn't clear. My bad! She sure didn't quote street level prices, BTW! LOL.

BTW- what is Snow's sister's name?

Thanks again to all!

So my system for knowing girls are not LE is I send them $5 for naked pictures. This does 2 things for me. One I know they are not LE and second all of them have their real names on cash app so that allows me to look them up on Facebook or other social media. She also quoted me 100 for ss but I was able to get her to agree to 65 but when it was time for me to meet she must have passed out for the day.

[Shampoo55]

Picture of snow if you wanted to know what she looked like. I have more as well. I have not had a chance to see her yet but I have talked to her.

Thanks to all for the replies on Snow! Appreciate the link to the professional pics of Hailey!

BTW- how did you get a naked pic of her if you haven't seen her? LOL {how about posting some in the Pic Thread? She refused to send one or I would have dated her. Someone needs to "clue her in" that sending a naked pic demonstrates that she isn't LE. She's never heard of it, so I guess all those that have seen her before have not requested such?

Sorry that was my point, guess I wasn't clear. My bad! She sure didn't quote street level prices, BTW! LOL.

BTW- what is Snow's sister's name?

Thanks again to all!

[BillyBadass12]

Picture of snow if you wanted to know what she looked like. I have more as well. I have not had a chance to see her yet but I have talked to her.