Grand Rapids Pugilistic Society

[Benz1]

Not to be that guy, but wasn't a monger outed by someone with a pic posted in the GR forum no less within the last 6 months? THIS. ! This would be why people take issue with a provider wanting a photo. Throw in the even more insulting fact that same providers (CJ isn't only one known for this in GR area) use fake pics of themselves using the excuse of needing to keep their identity protected, like somehow their personal info is more important than ours. And as for a having a history of good reviews. I have seen several providers who also have accounts on this forum that require pics for admission getting generic glowing reviews of "wonderful time" "surpassed expectations" "had an amazing time". Never any details of this is what is offered, this is what isn't offered, this is what we did, this is what I paid, this particular thing was annoying or I didn't care for". No real details. Either these couple providers offer the absolute best perfect service ever known to have existed in the world of providers. Or the men know the provider is checking what they wrote and are either threatening to blackball them, or worse since they have their photos. When it sounds too good to be true. Well, you know the rest.

I'm with VetteMan.

If the provider is controling the review, its not a real review. We know Some of these members have more than one profile, they could use one of their lesser known profiles to write the real review with details and price but they don't. This leads us to the real questions about reviews. Is it a valid review without details to help the members make a good decision. Is this provider who I want to spend money on? In response the reviewing members might say PM for details.

FUCK PM for details. Grow a pair, cut the purse strings.

[Cassidy69]

It sucks when you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar huh?

I am just proving a point. If you can't offer the same in return to your clients why should any of them do the same? You really aren't that protected in today's world with any type of verification process.

I mean honestly you know what I find interesting. As a senior member with multiple reviews, That you don't have one girl that's willing to vouch for you? It's a common practice. Most of us are very happy to verify a client. We are usually very willing to help each other stay safe. I don't need anything if somebody has a reference. And if somebody can't give me one reference of somebody that they've seen, That tells me that they're not very confident that that provider would give them a good reference.

And as far as calling me out. If you think this is hurting my business, Think again. My inbox is full. My phone is blowing up. So thank you for the little boost before the holidays. Really I am done now.

[VetteMan6981]

Not to be that guy, but wasn't a monger outed by someone with a pic posted in the GR forum no less within the last 6 months? THIS. ! This would be why people take issue with a provider wanting a photo. Throw in the even more insulting fact that same providers (CJ isn't only one known for this in GR area) use fake pics of themselves using the excuse of needing to keep their identity protected, like somehow their personal info is more important than ours. And as for a having a history of good reviews. I have seen several providers who also have accounts on this forum that require pics for admission getting generic glowing reviews of "wonderful time" "surpassed expectations" "had an amazing time". Never any details of this is what is offered, this is what isn't offered, this is what we did, this is what I paid, this particular thing was annoying or I didn't care for". No real details. Either these couple providers offer the absolute best perfect service ever known to have existed in the world of providers. Or the men know the provider is checking what they wrote and are either threatening to blackball them, or worse since they have their photos. When it sounds too good to be true. Well, you know the rest.

I share your quizzical response. CJ typically exceeds the monger expectations from a visual satisfaction perspective (as well as other sensory satisfaction perspectives). I don't recall anyone who's actually seen CJ ever complaining about the fact she uses anonymous photos to protect her privacy. I seem to recall one monger who apparently measured the size of the areola on the various photos and discerned they were from two different woman. Thats a whole new level of CSI crazy than even I possess.

Bait and switch photos are a common reality in the STG and Tryst worlds. But those situations encompass presenting a woman who looks like Salma Hayek. And when you show up, the woman who answers the door looks like Rosie O'Donnell. That's a valid concern for photo swaps.

I do understand the need for privacy. I worry about some of these pleasurable women posting photos that could reveal personal details beyond her face. Tattoos, scars, unique body features, certain clothing, piercings, hair styles, fingernail styles, background furniture, etc. All could be used to cause extreme embarrassment for the lady. And not just now, but maybe years down the road. Just because an STG post gets taken down, doesn't mean it's gone. Can you imagine the unease if one of our ladies here had her teenaged son or daughter forwarded a photo of what her mom used to do? I cringe at the thought of that.

So maybe we could think compassionately (not just passionately) about our providers. I know for me, I get nervous going to certain areas of the city to see a provider. Why? Because I know people who live in that area. Once I showed up at a house. And the next door neighbor was my old boss. I actually canceled the appointment as I knew he was retired and still lived there. I just didn't want to risk facing an awkward situation. For that reason, I know want to know exactly where I'm headed for an appointment before I leave my house. Protect my privacy and dignity.

And my unease would be nothing like what the poor provider could face. It could be life altering. So I guess it's fair to ask. Do we really need to know exactly what a woman's areola looks like, or can we survive with an accurate portrayal of an areola doppelgnger? Seems silly.

Just one man's opinion.

Protect.

G2.

[Member #6525]

I feel fortunate that CJ was date #2 in my entrance into the hobby. I was blown away. She is a class act. Kind, funny, and accommodating to go along with the sexy smoldering stuff. Oh, and a ton of fun. When you are that good, you get to set the rules. No one is forcing us to do this.

Thank you for being such a breath of fresh air. I've been able to repeat it once more, and it was delightful, too. I am looking forward to scheduling more.

LOL. I'll take it! "It is always preferable to have attention focused on a name than to be unnoticed."

I'm confident that reputation speaks for itself.

[NoseJelly]

Just saw a UFO! It's not the same one I saw in that trailer park, after pounding out that lady that was "legally separated" from her husband, but it sure was a heart stopping ordeal! I just hope this time it doesn't turn into another abduction and more experimental surgery!

NJ.

Retroduction.

[Cassidy69]

Certainly never expected this provider to become the topic of this particular concern especially given how many have seen her and how many glowing reports exist, apart from her willingness to openly and thoughtfully engage the forum from time to time.

LOL. I'll take it! "It is always preferable to have attention focused on a name than to be unnoticed."

I'm confident that reputation speaks for itself.

[Cassidy69]

CJ is a rose in a field of dandelions when compared to the majority of people in the business. I just posted the apology since I did get it wrong. Nothing to do with her. She's one that exceeds expectations that are already high. Usually it's the opposite unfortunately.

Thank you so much. I'm blushing LOL.

[Cassidy69]

I share your quizzical response. CJ typically exceeds the monger expectations from a visual satisfaction perspective (as well as other sensory satisfaction perspectives). I don't recall anyone who's actually seen CJ ever complaining about the fact she uses anonymous photos to protect her privacy. I seem to recall one monger who apparently measured the size of the areola on the various photos and discerned they were from two different woman. Thats a whole new level of CSI crazy than even I possess.

Bait and switch photos are a common reality in the STG and Tryst worlds. But those situations encompass presenting a woman who looks like Salma Hayek. And when you show up, the woman who answers the door looks like Rosie O'Donnell. That's a valid concern for photo swaps.

I do understand the need for privacy. I worry about some of these pleasurable women posting photos that could reveal personal details beyond her face. Tattoos, scars, unique body features, certain clothing, piercings, hair styles, fingernail styles, background furniture, etc. All could be used to cause extreme embarrassment for the lady. And not just now, but maybe years down the road. Just because an STG post gets taken down, doesn't mean it's gone. Can you imagine the unease if one of our ladies here had her teenaged son or daughter forwarded a photo of what her mom used to do? I cringe at the thought of that.

Thank you, Gene. I appreciate you.

[BcHeadHunter]

Sometimes it's easier to apologize and move on. I was wrong about the photos, I'm not so fragile an apology hurts me in any way. Especially if I get something wrong, So just figured I'd offer it and move on.

While you were wrong about the photos, I don't know that you needed to apologize. The inference that the photos were misleading really was disingenuous. But ok. CJ didn't deserve that insult.

Puzzle.

G2.

[Gene2]

CJ is a rose in a field of dandelions when compared to the majority of people in the business. I just posted the apology since I did get it wrong. Nothing to do with her. She's one that exceeds expectations that are already high. Usually it's the opposite unfortunately.

While you were wrong about the photos, I don't know that you needed to apologize. The inference that the photos were misleading really was disingenuous. But ok. CJ didn't deserve that insult.

Puzzle.

G2.

[BcHeadHunter]

CJ is a rose in a field of dandelions when compared to the majority of people in the business. I just posted the apology since I did get it wrong. Nothing to do with her. She's one that exceeds expectations that are already high. Usually it's the opposite unfortunately.

Certainly never expected this provider to become the topic of this particular concern especially given how many have seen her and how many glowing reports exist, apart from her willingness to openly and thoughtfully engage the forum from time to time.

[Gene2]

Certainly never expected this provider to become the topic of this particular concern especially given how many have seen her and how many glowing reports exist, apart from her willingness to openly and thoughtfully engage the forum from time to time.

I share your quizzical response. CJ typically exceeds the monger expectations from a visual satisfaction perspective (as well as other sensory satisfaction perspectives). I don't recall anyone who's actually seen CJ ever complaining about the fact she uses anonymous photos to protect her privacy. I seem to recall one monger who apparently measured the size of the areola on the various photos and discerned they were from two different woman. Thats a whole new level of CSI crazy than even I possess.

Bait and switch photos are a common reality in the STG and Tryst worlds. But those situations encompass presenting a woman who looks like Salma Hayek. And when you show up, the woman who answers the door looks like Rosie O'Donnell. That's a valid concern for photo swaps.

I do understand the need for privacy. I worry about some of these pleasurable women posting photos that could reveal personal details beyond her face. Tattoos, scars, unique body features, certain clothing, piercings, hair styles, fingernail styles, background furniture, etc. All could be used to cause extreme embarrassment for the lady. And not just now, but maybe years down the road. Just because an STG post gets taken down, doesn't mean it's gone. Can you imagine the unease if one of our ladies here had her teenaged son or daughter forwarded a photo of what her mom used to do? I cringe at the thought of that.

So maybe we could think compassionately (not just passionately) about our providers. I know for me, I get nervous going to certain areas of the city to see a provider. Why? Because I know people who live in that area. Once I showed up at a house. And the next door neighbor was my old boss. I actually canceled the appointment as I knew he was retired and still lived there. I just didn't want to risk facing an awkward situation. For that reason, I know want to know exactly where I'm headed for an appointment before I leave my house. Protect my privacy and dignity.

And my unease would be nothing like what the poor provider could face. It could be life altering. So I guess it's fair to ask. Do we really need to know exactly what a woman's areola looks like, or can we survive with an accurate portrayal of an areola doppelgänger? Seems silly.

Just one man's opinion.

Protect.

G2.

[OliverTwist501]

Certainly never expected this provider to become the topic of this particular concern especially given how many have seen her and how many glowing reports exist, apart from her willingness to openly and thoughtfully engage the forum from time to time.

I stand corrected, and apologize.

[BcHeadHunter]

I stand corrected, and apologize.

Never claimed it wasn't her pictures. I specifically said from what I remember. She confirmed my memory and disclaimer to be accurate to the fullest. Now that it has been verified from the lady herself it would be a nice gesture to all of us if you apologized for calling me a troll out of respect for all members, the culture we want to cultivate here, and how we communicate to each other on this board. But you don't have to, you can on go on name calling if you please. (Now that's how you troll But seriously don't call me names LOL.

[BoatGuy1]

And her photos are pretty accurate as well.

Was well worth the price of admission. Mufasa.

You are 100% correct. I NEVER EVER EVER post real pics of myself. Never. I have kids. I have a very real life outside of this and I'm not about to be recognized in public by some random monger. No way. And I strongly discourage others from post real pics. Especially face pics. In my personal opinion a very risky and not so bright practice and that may offend some girls, but so be it.

On that note. My pictures are VERY close. I do not catfish ever. I've got over 7 pages of ALL POSITIVE reviews from MULTIPLE DIFFERENT people who will vouch for this. Once you've gotten on my good side I'm happy to accommodate with a real pic on occasion.