Grand Rapids Pugilistic Society

[SuperSaver]

She robbed me 250. Also her pics aren't accurate.

I think some of these mongers are getting deals with her to post good reviews. She's a heavy user with bad service. I'd avoid tiny and would be hesitant to trust what others are posting about her.

[Gene2]

No need for any apology tour. I've always appreciated the varied approaches that seasoned members here have suggested for how to maintain privacy but at the same time protect providers from LE. While I part company with you on many fronts, I have not beat the drum to ignore your advice. I do cringe when you demean women, or when you use this forum for discounts or freebies for yourself. But that's just me. Maybe I'm wrong and we all should be following your business model to get freebies. I just can't sign on to that. So more power to you.

My reviews speak for themselves. I gladly weather the occasional Beavis and Butthead retort about the length of them being too much. Why? Because I get plenty of great feedback stating in PM that the narratives are both informative and entertaining. So I will keep going.

And your reviews speak for themselves. I would not ask you to change your approach nor your business model. I also would not require you to disclose the fringe benefits. But, as I have stated numerous times here, the collective intellect of monger nation is much higher than you give us credit. We all see what you do, and much of it is beneficial and appreciated. But we also know you are deeply flawed. As am I. I've owned that here. But I don't recall you owning your errant views or posts. You actually might find you would have earned greater respect if you honestly posted when you were wrong or at least when better options existed than you proposed. That's what I did in that post. Maturity. Try it. It would look good on you..

I learn from both you. Never agree all the time with either. Never disagree all the time with either. Both help. Both right. Both wrong. Sight better for both being here.

[Blue12]

Is this the beginning of your much needed apology tour for promoting and advocating its OK to give private information for screening?

No need to apologize to me, I'm just the constant drum beat encouraging everyone to stay safe.

I think your apology tour begins where you started encouraging mongers to see girls who screen using private information, on the Massage Parlor Thread.

I never under stated the value of privacy, you were just one of those people that didn't listen and that's your choice. I never tried changing your mind, I was warning others that you are wrong.

Love this discussion gents. For me it is always: safety and privacy first, period, no photos no names, never park where a provider or handler can see your vehicle or license plate always wear a hat, cover face when walking in front of cameras, etc, lastly if you sense danger you are in danger, retreat and regroup, just one man's opinion, stay safe out there.

[Gene2]

Is this the beginning of your much needed apology tour for promoting and advocating its OK to give private information for screening?

No need to apologize to me, I'm just the constant drum beat encouraging everyone to stay safe.

I think your apology tour begins where you started encouraging mongers to see girls who screen using private information, on the Massage Parlor Thread.

I never under stated the value of privacy, you were just one of those people that didn't listen and that's your choice. I never tried changing your mind, I was warning others that you are wrong.

No need for any apology tour. I've always appreciated the varied approaches that seasoned members here have suggested for how to maintain privacy but at the same time protect providers from LE. While I part company with you on many fronts, I have not beat the drum to ignore your advice. I do cringe when you demean women, or when you use this forum for discounts or freebies for yourself. But that's just me. Maybe I'm wrong and we all should be following your business model to get freebies. I just can't sign on to that. So more power to you.

My reviews speak for themselves. I gladly weather the occasional Beavis and Butthead retort about the length of them being too much. Why? Because I get plenty of great feedback stating in PM that the narratives are both informative and entertaining. So I will keep going.

And your reviews speak for themselves. I would not ask you to change your approach nor your business model. I also would not require you to disclose the fringe benefits. But, as I have stated numerous times here, the collective intellect of monger nation is much higher than you give us credit. We all see what you do, and much of it is beneficial and appreciated. But we also know you are deeply flawed. As am I. I've owned that here. But I don't recall you owning your errant views or posts. You actually might find you would have earned greater respect if you honestly posted when you were wrong or at least when better options existed than you proposed. That's what I did in that post. Maturity. Try it. It would look good on you.

Grow.

G2.

[Benz1]

Benz I have to admit when I first read your post months ago, I felt your concerns were somewhat overblown. However, time and recent posts on this board have changed that opinion. And I now feel your concerns were not only dead right, they may have been understated. So I feel it best to ask you (or others) for further observations as to the risks associated with providing a photo to a provider. Are there ever any providers who can be trusted with our personal info? Are there certain traits that a provider exhibits that makes her more of a risk to our privacy or some future retaliation? How can a monger both protect his privacy / safety and yet assure the provider he is not with law enforcement?

Reevaluate.

G2.

Is this the beginning of your much needed apology tour for promoting and advocating its OK to give private information for screening?

No need to apologize to me, I'm just the constant drum beat encouraging everyone to stay safe.

I think your apology tour begins where you started encouraging mongers to see girls who screen using private information, on the Massage Parlor Thread.

I never under stated the value of privacy, you were just one of those people that didn't listen and that's your choice. I never tried changing your mind, I was warning others that you are wrong.

[Benz1]

My BS detectors went off as well. That's just my humble opinion. As with everything here. Take with a grain of salt.

My BS detector went off a few times with that member. Either he's very stupid for getting ripped off, robbed and held at gun point so many times or he's trying to manipulate providers and us.

[Gene2]

My BS detectors went off as well. That's just my humble opinion. As with everything here. Take with a grain of salt.

Too many positive reviews for Tiny. Then one boy claims he seen her naked but claim she gets CashApp and then moves rooms and he don't follow her. Who starts with an appointment getting naked feeling her hands on his body. Then stops. Dresses and goes to lobby after paying CashApp. Just seems like a BS report of robbery. Tiny seems good.

[Shawtren]

I'm new to posting but been lurking here for five years. Appreciate the good reviews and recommends. But I'm seeing some boys claim a rip-off and their story isn't believable. They change story and aren't accurate in what happened. How can feel the girls hands on you, see her naked body but then claim you were robbed? And say a room move was involved and CashApp nonsense. Then I look back on post history and see more claims of robbing that don't add up. Questions about robbery make story change. But no details. Can the claims of rip-off or robbery just be revenge for girl not wanting to see him? Am I choosing hoes over bros? Just want to be fair. And safe.

My BS detectors went off as well. That's just my humble opinion. As with everything here. Take with a grain of salt.

[Benz1]

I'm new to posting but been lurking here for five years. Appreciate the good reviews and recommends. But I'm seeing some boys claim a rip-off and their story isn't believable. They change story and aren't accurate in what happened. How can feel the girls hands on you, see her naked body but then claim you were robbed? And say a room move was involved and CashApp nonsense. Then I look back on post history and see more claims of robbing that don't add up. Questions about robbery make story change. But no details. Can the claims of rip-off or robbery just be revenge for girl not wanting to see him? Am I choosing hoes over bros? Just want to be fair. And safe.

Yes.

I heard of a member traveling from Chicago that threatened our GR providers that he would write bad reviews if he didn't get what he wanted at half price. It was many years ago. I'm sure it can still happen today.

Sadly the providers don't have a network of friendly hookers to help screen the guys before they agree to see them.

[Gene2]

I'm new to posting but been lurking here for five years. Appreciate the good reviews and recommends. But I'm seeing some boys claim a rip-off and their story isn't believable. They change story and aren't accurate in what happened. How can feel the girls hands on you, see her naked body but then claim you were robbed? And say a room move was involved and CashApp nonsense. Then I look back on post history and see more claims of robbing that don't add up. Questions about robbery make story change. But no details. Can the claims of rip-off or robbery just be revenge for girl not wanting to see him? Am I choosing hoes over bros? Just want to be fair. And safe.

[DjBiker]

Benz I have to admit when I first read your post months ago, I felt your concerns were somewhat overblown. However, time and recent posts on this board have changed that opinion. And I now feel your concerns were not only dead right, they may have been understated. So I feel it best to ask you (or others) for further observations as to the risks associated with providing a photo to a provider. Are there ever any providers who can be trusted with our personal info? Are there certain traits that a provider exhibits that makes her more of a risk to our privacy or some future retaliation? How can a monger both protect his privacy / safety and yet assure the provider he is not with law enforcement?

Reevaluate.

G2.

That ship has sailed for you, I'm sure just by your boring looooonnngggg posts you run your pie hole and tell them all, just to look like a "BMOC" dum f'.

Sail away.

Lmao.

[Gene2]

I see any and all attempts from a provider to gain personal information on a client as an opportunity to extort.

If you use or give them your real phone number any provider can use Reverse Look Up to find your name.
If you send a picture to a provider, she can Google the picture just like we do all the time to find more information about the provider.

If your picture matches anything on FB, Twitter, LinkedIn or anywhere else you are fucked.

If you're going to a providers home, she could easily have cameras set up to set you up for extortion.
Getting to see her through a referral may not be a good idea either.
Don't ever give a provider personal information.
Many of our members have been extorted by providers they thought they new well. The fact is, they new them too well.

Benz I have to admit when I first read your post months ago, I felt your concerns were somewhat overblown. However, time and recent posts on this board have changed that opinion. And I now feel your concerns were not only dead right, they may have been understated. So I feel it best to ask you (or others) for further observations as to the risks associated with providing a photo to a provider. Are there ever any providers who can be trusted with our personal info? Are there certain traits that a provider exhibits that makes her more of a risk to our privacy or some future retaliation? How can a monger both protect his privacy / safety and yet assure the provider he is not with law enforcement?

Reevaluate.

G2.

[DjBiker]

What happened? Congress doesn't want you?

Turned into douche with few words.

Better.

Lmao.

[DjBiker]

I wrote these words almost a year ago. Watching Gene the last few weeks just reminded me of this post I had written he was really ranting like he's been doing again, so thought maybe I'd bump it for review. He has in the interim told us the thing that "changed in his life" before he found the boards was a divorce, I was not surprised to read that when he posted it. I actually feel sorry for a guy who seems so wrapped up in seeing "tutes" and writing manifestos on those assignations, and that he spends so much time now out of state but still posting on the Grand Rapids section as if this is where his "life" is really is pathetic. Ain't no wonder he gets used so often by the ladies. I guess I bumped this maybe for his benefit in hopes he'll re-read and muse on it. I think the post below where he says he speaks for everyone on the board just made me think that if he really believes that he has lost touch with reality a bit.

Amen, it's pathetic, he moves to another when he creeps the others out, I can think of 3 of top of my head he speaks nothing of, one disappeared completely, after his "Costco cognac" if a dude has to pay and pay and pay to have someone tell him he has a big manhood and handsome (his words) when his ole lady that booted him finds out her alimony be taking a jump lmao, still think he was a bullied kid and when his wallet empties then he will get it, but till then he is a pathetic puke.

Step up your gifts to name brand.

Read douche machine.

LOL.

[Gene2]

I wrote these words almost a year ago. Watching Gene the last few weeks just reminded me of this post I had written he was really ranting like he's been doing again, so thought maybe I'd bump it for review. He has in the interim told us the thing that "changed in his life" before he found the boards was a divorce, I was not surprised to read that when he posted it. I actually feel sorry for a guy who seems so wrapped up in seeing "tutes" and writing manifestos on those assignations, and that he spends so much time now out of state but still posting on the Grand Rapids section as if this is where his "life" is really is pathetic. Ain't no wonder he gets used so often by the ladies. I guess I bumped this maybe for his benefit in hopes he'll re-read and muse on it. I think the post below where he says he speaks for everyone on the board just made me think that if he really believes that he has lost touch with reality a bit.

What happened? Congress doesn't want you?