Grand Rapids Pugilistic Society

[Benz1]

I should have put my opinion on this board if Bobbyjoe77 wants to buttfuck Rome123 for being shallow then so be it I don't usually get in to arguments I just state my opinion weather it be right or wrong they can't eat a dick it's still my opinion.

The Tedbear nice guy reputation kinda ended here.

I had made a strong suggestion about a standard check the box review form that would bring more clarity to every review. The checklist is long.
Does anyone want me to post it again? Takes the whole page. I could put it in General reports so it doesn't interrupt all the fighting here.

[Benz1]

This is what I meant that it is a review of providers ability and looks together not just looks my point was Jenn is a good provider as reviewed by many yes she has body flaws but it's not fair to poorly review her by looks alone is shallow and not very accurate bobby Joe77 head Bobby doesn't realize this and wants to call me an ass hole well fuck him keep whining instead of fucking and reporting about fucking instead of getting fucked.

This white knight posted that Jen gave a great head game. He never informed anyone that she has major baby damage. When Jen received a terrible review based on her baby damage Tedbear got on his big white horse.

This is a great Example of white knight.

[Monger01]

Well put Charlie.

An example of White Knighting is when there's something clearly out in left field wanted / desired / expected by a provider -- and backing up the provider on that as something that a monger shouldn't see as negative, and is a-ok for her to do. Not just a positive review of the experience within the session.

EXAMPLE (not to be expected):

BOB: Suzie always wants me to pick her up some cigs and either beer or take-out every time. I've seen her 4 times over the past 3 months, and you'd think she wouldn't be watching the clock so much or delay the appt 15-20 minutes multiple times, last minute. Give me something in return, right? Haven't seen it. So this last time I said I'll gladly do it again, but said for a Full hour for my half hour, and she got ticked and blew me off. WTH? She Expects this??

JIM: I'm not saying you should be happy with it, but she's a great girl. Grabbing her stuff like that is expected as she only charges 80 hhr. That 'take-out' is only going to be McDs or BK, and the beer's just a six-pack of Natty Light, man. It's something a guy shouldn't have an issue with, but if he doesn't want to roll that route, that's fine. No reason to 'dis her for it. She's hot, and it's a great experience, BTW.

JON: That sucks Bob. I did pick up some cigs once when I told her I was next to the gas station to get her address, my 1st time with her. Great experience, she was cool with me, and the 2nd time was pretty sweet, too. Stay safe!

The latter two are positives, one's white-knighting, the other isn't.

In this case, Jim's white-knighting, Jon is not. Both have a "positive review" of her.

[Charlie441]

An example of White Knighting is when there's something clearly out in left field wanted / desired / expected by a provider -- and backing up the provider on that as something that a monger shouldn't see as negative, and is a-ok for her to do. Not just a positive review of the experience within the session.

EXAMPLE (not to be expected):

BOB: Suzie always wants me to pick her up some cigs and either beer or take-out every time. I've seen her 4 times over the past 3 months, and you'd think she wouldn't be watching the clock so much or delay the appt 15-20 minutes multiple times, last minute. Give me something in return, right? Haven't seen it. So this last time I said I'll gladly do it again, but said for a Full hour for my half hour, and she got ticked and blew me off. WTH? She Expects this??

JIM: I'm not saying you should be happy with it, but she's a great girl. Grabbing her stuff like that is expected as she only charges 80 hhr. That 'take-out' is only going to be McDs or BK, and the beer's just a six-pack of Natty Light, man. It's something a guy shouldn't have an issue with, but if he doesn't want to roll that route, that's fine. No reason to 'dis her for it. She's hot, and it's a great experience, BTW.

JON: That sucks Bob. I did pick up some cigs once when I told her I was next to the gas station to get her address, my 1st time with her. Great experience, she was cool with me, and the 2nd time was pretty sweet, too. Stay safe!

The latter two are positives, one's white-knighting, the other isn't.

In this case, Jim's white-knighting, Jon is not. Both have a "positive review" of her.

Wolverine,

Nobody is going to speak up about their experince with her unless it is negative because Monger01 is already calling out postive posts as "White Knighting" over this. With crap that that, his negative view of providers will continue. It's a shame, really, because Wolvie, you put a lot into this board to help others, especially with trying to get a straight story and with pulling together groups of reviews, and finally, going out and getting pictures to post here.

Unfortunately, a little boy that got his heart broken over a provider feels compelled to call out any positive reviews after a single negative review as "white knighting". I feel sorry for him and hope that his little broken heart can be healed, but he just keeps diving back into the pond for cheaper and cheaper service, which only reinforces his negative views since he's bottom feeding. Hehe. I'm going to call him Catfish from now on. Unfortunately, he interferes with actual information being passed on here and is quickly making this board irrellevant, I'm gone a month and it's stil the same petty stuff.

[Gene2]

Didn't this discussion start when a poster said he was robbed? And by a provider with no history of that, and she is all of 105 lbs? And the poster ghosted us on any details?

Sure the mongers are always right. Until they're not. Robbing is a serious charge. Shouldn't the poster be willing to provide details to warn all of us?

Granted it is odd that another poster goes so far as to contact the provider to get her side of the story. But given the serious charge of robbery, it's not that far afield. Especially if he is a regular of this provider.

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see the charge of robbery being valid or worthy of any of us defending him until he provides some solid details.

Thanks for letting a non-senior impart a viewpoint here.

[Comrad]

GMac,

No where in here does Monger01 call a positive post as white knighting. I have positive posts and negative posts. Does that mean I am white knighting the girls who I gave a good post to? Please, explain why you believe Monger01 is calling a good review white knighting and where do you see that in his post. I am intrigued to hear your explanation for it.

I agree and have supported a number of my regulars with positive reviews to help them grow their business but at no time were the reviews false or misleading. I thought that's what the board was about sharing experiences good or bad and helping fellow mongers from being ripped off.

[Arish]

I have noticed an increasing amount of posters whiteknighting or at least zealously defending hookers lately here. I also notice most have about 30 posts. I seldom see a long timer doing it.
Going to the extent of calling a hooker to get her side of a robbery story? Are you her pimp? Her brother? Her best buddy? Why are some of you so overly invested in the reputations of these girls?
Sharing your personal experience noting it was different than another poster, sure. That's what this board is for.
Reviews, both good and bad are the best method of evaluating talent.

Some of you guys are acting like the girl's agent!

GMac,

No where in here does Monger01 call a positive post as white knighting. I have positive posts and negative posts. Does that mean I am white knighting the girls who I gave a good post to? Please, explain why you believe Monger01 is calling a good review white knighting and where do you see that in his post. I am intrigued to hear your explanation for it.

[Monger01]

A "positive post" and "whiteknighting" are not the same thing. I'm not heartbroken. Just gave an example. Are you really that dense that you can't see the difference between a positive review post and whiteknighting?

You don't see that acting like a girl's agent is different than posting a review? This attitude reminds me of all those now defunct forums run by the old school providers. All convo was provider-centic and full of drama about what girl said what about what monger etc. Scorps comes to mind.

Wolverine,

Nobody is going to speak up about their experince with her unless it is negative because Monger01 is already calling out postive posts as "White Knighting" over this. With crap that that, his negative view of providers will continue. It's a shame, really, because Wolvie, you put a lot into this board to help others, especially with trying to get a straight story and with pulling together groups of reviews, and finally, going out and getting pictures to post here.

Unfortunately, a little boy that got his heart broken over a provider feels compelled to call out any positive reviews after a single negative review as "white knighting". I feel sorry for him and hope that his little broken heart can be healed, but he just keeps diving back into the pond for cheaper and cheaper service, which only reinforces his negative views since he's bottom feeding. Hehe. I'm going to call him Catfish from now on. Unfortunately, he interferes with actual information being passed on here and is quickly making this board irrellevant, I'm gone a month and it's stil the same petty stuff.

[GMacMan]

As long as the monger has a few reviews under his belt I am usually inclined to believe him over a provider who has never been reviewed. But he didn't do himself any favors by providing zero details of the alleged robbery. Hopefully he will see our requests for details and give us his side of the story. And Amber isn't doing herself any favors by using what appear to be fake pictures. If someone has seen this Amber please speak up(her Ad is attached).

Wolverine,

Nobody is going to speak up about their experince with her unless it is negative because Monger01 is already calling out postive posts as "White Knighting" over this. With crap that that, his negative view of providers will continue. It's a shame, really, because Wolvie, you put a lot into this board to help others, especially with trying to get a straight story and with pulling together groups of reviews, and finally, going out and getting pictures to post here.

Unfortunately, a little boy that got his heart broken over a provider feels compelled to call out any positive reviews after a single negative review as "white knighting". I feel sorry for him and hope that his little broken heart can be healed, but he just keeps diving back into the pond for cheaper and cheaper service, which only reinforces his negative views since he's bottom feeding. Hehe. I'm going to call him Catfish from now on. Unfortunately, he interferes with actual information being passed on here and is quickly making this board irrellevant, I'm gone a month and it's stil the same petty stuff.

[Monger01]

I have noticed an increasing amount of posters whiteknighting or at least zealously defending hookers lately here. I also notice most have about 30 posts. I seldom see a long timer doing it.
Going to the extent of calling a hooker to get her side of a robbery story? Are you her pimp? Her brother? Her best buddy? Why are some of you so overly invested in the reputations of these girls?
Sharing your personal experience noting it was different than another poster, sure. That's what this board is for.
Reviews, both good and bad are the best method of evaluating talent.

Some of you guys are acting like the girl's agent!

[Wolverines]

As long as the monger has a few reviews under his belt I am usually inclined to believe him over a provider who has never been reviewed. But he didn't do himself any favors by providing zero details of the alleged robbery. Hopefully he will see our requests for details and give us his side of the story. And Amber isn't doing herself any favors by using what appear to be fake pictures. If someone has seen this Amber please speak up(her Ad is attached).

You stated you called the provider and she says he tried to tie her up. You also stated "if anything he got robbed because he didn't get his way with her forcibly. ".
I took that to mean she kept his donation. If that's not what you meant, ok. But it sounds to me like she told you why she left with his money.
Mongers lie. I agree. But providers also lie, and often.
Even well known ones. I used to see a girl called Destiny. Saw her 1-2 x a week. We were almost friends. I got discounts and extra time etc. Saw her for over a year. Yet still for no reason she lied to me over something and I foolishly believed her.
These girls do lie and they do take money for no service.
Now the monger shouldn't have prepaid of course. But that doesn't make keeping his money ok.

How do you know if she kept his money? Do you know for sure he paid up front like everyone on here says to keep your money in your pocket until the services have been rendered. You their are a lot of false claims about providers especially if the Monger doesn't get his way. Has their been any reports about this provider out there? Everything sounds fishy about the so called robbery.

So she kept his money? Hmmm. What a convenient story and "reason" to keep his money. In my biz if I decline a customer job I don't also keep their money. Sounds fishy.

I talked to Amber and she told me he tried force her to be tied up and she was not having any of that. He was totally disrespectful so she left. Nobody got robbed if anything he got robbed because he didn't get his way with her forcibly.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...y/648521613069

Robbed me and took my money. Oh well, no one got hurt.

[Rome123]

Alix has been well reviewed here in Grand Rapids too.

Opioid addiction is a nasty disease.

I'm sorry to hear about her daughter and all the others struggling to rise above any addiction.

Stay safe and sane out there.

Well reviewed or not she has gone off the deep end. The ads she ran on STG could only come from a deranged individual.

[Benz1]

She is very well reviewed in Jackson. And seeing ladys during the Virus May not be the best thing to do. I'm sorry to hear her daughter passed.

Alix has been well reviewed here in Grand Rapids too.

Opioid addiction is a nasty disease.

I'm sorry to hear about her daughter and all the others struggling to rise above any addiction.

Stay safe and sane out there.

[OrallVrForU]

Ever since her crackwhore daughter OD she's on a mission to piss everybody here.

She is very well reviewed in Jackson. And seeing ladys during the Virus May not be the best thing to do. I'm sorry to hear her daughter passed.

[Mitico7327]

Ever since her crackwhore daughter OD she's on a mission to piss everybody here.

It's the same nut job provider that was posting ads on STG about low balling girls. Same 517 area code that was on the low balling ads. Instead of telling girls not to take low offers she's pretending to be a guy and telling us to only see quality providers. Quality girls on STG are a hard find.