LA LA Land Bullshit and Fight Club

[Christophe1]

Back, shortly, not long ago, I was accused of not being a useful member.

This blemish, must be a slander removed.

What a fucking ass wipe.

The lower, Is a loss.

Obviously, has no IDEA.

HATES, Hates, hates.

Lower level person.

Priscilla, Hundred, you should masturbarte.

Cut, you a L. O. S. E. are.

SPELLS, DUMBO FUCK RETARD LOSER ASS.

[Christophe1]

When I walk.

My head is High, Shoulders are back.

I walk high as fuck.

Shitfucking High as funk.

Win, win, win.

And, then I get drunk. K-hole. When we be digging back to the day. K-hole.

Back when we used to bake it in pan, back in Rosarito.

When we flew high, when we flew low.

Seriously, back in the day, when I was a lover.

There is a shithead amongst us, Priscilla.

I got genius, I got everything betting against HOLLYWOOD idiots.

Don't be another victim.

Burn Your TV.

[SFVsag]

Have you ever considered simply typing $380? I could never understand all the fancy shmancy codes you people type in here when describing donation. This is America, we pay in dollars, not apostrophes.

CCCLXXX could work.

[Jedi69]

I merely adopted the custom of this board when I arrived, because I observed that as the standard in this subculture. Take it up with the people who have been here much longer than I have. In the future I now know that some characters will be trimmed in the text entry, whether this was always the case I cannot say.

I was not aware the custom of this board was confusion and ambiguity. Duly noted for future reference when posting rates and donations. I will no longer write $380, but instead will close my eyes and type random signs and buttons on my keyboard so everyone can know how much I paid. Thank you sir.

[Eponymously]

Have you ever considered simply typing $380? I could never understand all the fancy shmancy codes you people type in here when describing donation. This is America, we pay in dollars, not apostrophes.

I merely adopted the custom of this board when I arrived, because I observed that as the standard in this subculture. Take it up with the people who have been here much longer than I have. In the future I now know that some characters will be trimmed in the text entry, whether this was always the case I cannot say.

[Jedi69]

300 + 80, I don't understand how but the ' was removed from the post.

Have you ever considered simply typing $380? I could never understand all the fancy shmancy codes you people type in here when describing donation. This is America, we pay in dollars, not apostrophes.

[QuestBMuffin]

There is a study that was done 20 years ago where in a hospital operating room they did not use surgical masks for 6 months. The end result of that study, which has not been refuted, was not a massive increase in infection. The opposite was observed where infection rates went down. The lack of masks did not spike up the rate, though common sense would suggest that it should have as "everyone knows" that masks stop transmission from the surgeon to the patients.

Say what you will, but there is plenty of evidence to show that when masks do work as a filter, that they do a great job of carrying what has been filtered from one place to another. How many people do you see that touch and adjust their masks? They are doing a great job of picking up what has been filtered and getting it on their hands to spread elsewhere.

You want to make a difference, then religiously wash your hands when done with the restroom and immediately after putting on / off / touching your mask. If you still aren't convinced, try looking up the University at Oxford study on a Covid isolation ward and see where they found the virus in that three bed ward.

That's a good point, I do concede that in an environment like surgical wards or ICUs where the airborne infections are just everywhere that the masks themselves become instruments of contagion. The social distancing helps with that I imagine as I'm not sniffing strangers' masks at Kroger right? I'd still rather everyone wears masks though as an overwhelming number of studies show that for the general public, wearing masks improves public health in this pandemic.

[QuestBMuffin]

What is so nice about science, like abstract concepts such as free speech, is that it is iron, like my cock. A youtube video showing particles flying near masks, in masks, around masks, etc. Are not science. A controlled case study is:

https://principia-scientific.com/why...sh-mask-study/

Before I got into the fish counter business, I volunteered at an OR in the notrth valley. This was the days of the GM plant makin cars and horrific workplace accidents with a few shootings. The reason for wearing a mask in an OR is yes, perhaps to keep the place sterile. Although with the huge amount of nosocomial infections spreading the rona, well, maybe they do not work that good. But second, and mostly, when you open up a shooting victim and out spurts blood like a cum shot in mary's ass, you do not want that on you.

As for south dakota, it was shamed for having the highest transmission rate a few months ago. Now L. A. Has that honor, and it is being taken over by arizona. See if you can figure out what happened in those three areas in succession (hint, it is called weather).

Man there was that comic where if there were 99 studies saying the sky is mostly and one paper that says the sky is mostly purple, some people would search to the ends of the earth to find that one paper that says purple and goes AHA I told you.

Also attorneys a medicine are very man, I went to enough schooling to learn that my friends who studied hard and learned what they did for Step1 in med school are legitimately smart people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USMLE_Step_1.

The research done is rigorous, whereas attorneys often rely on speech and persuasion. There's a reason the best lawyers come out of the best law schools, where how you learned something affects the way you practice. The best physicians learn through experience and the scientific method.

[PriscillaM]

Ah yes let me tell my colleagues who have practiced medicine for decades that this dude online who knows physics has figured it out. They'll be very thankful I'm sure.

You're actually right about the droplets and their movement through and to the side of masks to an extent, but I think are misunderstand the critical point that masks stop a lot of the projectile force of coughs and sneezes, plus reduces much of the incoming droplets that crash on your mask fibers. It's no bubble suit but it reduces transmission rate in most statistically sound tests.

Population density is very low there. Looks like its the 10th whitest state in the US, but the 5th most sparse. There's just less chance for it to spread.

What is so nice about science, like abstract concepts such as free speech, is that it is iron, like my cock. A youtube video showing particles flying near masks, in masks, around masks, etc. Are not science. A controlled case study is:

https://principia-scientific.com/why...sh-mask-study/

Before I got into the fish counter business, I volunteered at an OR in the notrth valley. This was the days of the GM plant makin cars and horrific workplace accidents with a few shootings. The reason for wearing a mask in an OR is yes, perhaps to keep the place sterile. Although with the huge amount of nosocomial infections spreading the rona, well, maybe they do not work that good. But second, and mostly, when you open up a shooting victim and out spurts blood like a cum shot in mary's ass, you do not want that on you.

As for south dakota, it was shamed for having the highest transmission rate a few months ago. Now L. A. Has that honor, and it is being taken over by arizona. See if you can figure out what happened in those three areas in succession (hint, it is called weather).

[Cres Prophet2]

Ah yes let me tell my colleagues who have practiced medicine for decades that this dude online who knows physics has figured it out. They'll be very thankful I'm sure.

You're actually right about the droplets and their movement through and to the side of masks to an extent, but I think are misunderstand the critical point that masks stop a lot of the projectile force of coughs and sneezes, plus reduces much of the incoming droplets that crash on your mask fibers. It's no bubble suit but it reduces transmission rate in most statistically sound tests.

Population density is very low there. Looks like its the 10th whitest state in the US, but the 5th most sparse. There's just less chance for it to spread.

There is a study that was done 20 years ago where in a hospital operating room they did not use surgical masks for 6 months. The end result of that study, which has not been refuted, was not a massive increase in infection. The opposite was observed where infection rates went down. The lack of masks did not spike up the rate, though common sense would suggest that it should have as "everyone knows" that masks stop transmission from the surgeon to the patients.

Say what you will, but there is plenty of evidence to show that when masks do work as a filter, that they do a great job of carrying what has been filtered from one place to another. How many people do you see that touch and adjust their masks? They are doing a great job of picking up what has been filtered and getting it on their hands to spread elsewhere.

You want to make a difference, then religiously wash your hands when done with the restroom and immediately after putting on / off / touching your mask. If you still aren't convinced, try looking up the University at Oxford study on a Covid isolation ward and see where they found the virus in that three bed ward.

[OhMY08]

Ah yes let me tell my colleagues who have practiced medicine for decades that this dude online who knows physics has figured it out. They'll be very thankful.

"practiced medicine" A Double entendre if there ever was one!

My attorneys "practice law" as well and when broken down they admit, at the end of the day. "its all talk".

How cheap it is! Like money and chicks, how does that song go again?

Worth noting, The one eyed man is king in the valley of the blind.

Rock on with the rules of the club solider of the ama.

[QuestBMuffin]

2. Masks. Masks are ineffective because they cannot work and it is a trivial matter of physics to understand why. If a virus is carried on "droplets" or "aerosols" it does not matter; water, as the carrier, is divisible with almost zero shearing force, so as soon as a "droplet" gets where it has air motion available to it (e. G. Through and to the outside of your mask) aerosol-sized particles will be sheared off and now are in the atmosphere. One such particle is of sufficient size in an aerosol to carry enough virons to infect you. If you wear a mask that has two-way flow through it (as do all surgical masks and N95's without valves) then you provide the tiny amount of shearing energy required every time you breathe.

If you wear a mask or other device with a valve then of course there is no protection from you as source control at all -- however, you may obtain some level of personal protection by doing so since you are now using a filter media as it is designed to be used with one-way flow. But that's worthless when it comes to protecting others.

Of course all of this also implies adherence with protocols and proper fit so there is no bypass. If you violate them in any way, such as taking a mask that has been exposed to pathogens from one place into another then you increase the rate of infections from not using a mask at all because you are transporting the virus from where it is not to where it now is. That's stupid and when done by a trained professional it's criminally stupid..

Ah yes let me tell my colleagues who have practiced medicine for decades that this dude online who knows physics has figured it out. They'll be very thankful I'm sure.

You're actually right about the droplets and their movement through and to the side of masks to an extent, but I think are misunderstand the critical point that masks stop a lot of the projectile force of coughs and sneezes, plus reduces much of the incoming droplets that crash on your mask fibers. It's no bubble suit but it reduces transmission rate in most statistically sound tests.

3. trump. We know it is all trump's fault. The virus affects certain minorities more, because, well it is trump's racism. But why is south dakota, with no assistance and no prolonged shutdown and no mask mandates, not trump's success?

Population density is very low there. Looks like its the 10th whitest state in the US, but the 5th most sparse. There's just less chance for it to spread.

[Cres Prophet2]

The blame placed in exactly the wrong place is sloppy:

1. precautions. The virus is spread in fecal matter and carried by water. No one, and I mean no one, has said there is a $100.00 fine if you take a shit and then do not wash your hands. It is politically incorrect, because shit eating is common in many cultures. I have been exposed to so many covid cases, I no longer am "careful" if that means wearing a mask. I never was. However, I wash my hands (not santizer) every time I enter a space, every time I leave, and it is 20 seconds with suds. Period. I never wear a mask unless required. I am on a grip of vitamins and ivermectin (see below. And no, I am not sharing). I am either a lucky SOB, my way works, or there is no asymptomatic spread other than through scat.

2. Masks. Masks are ineffective because they cannot work and it is a trivial matter of physics to understand why. If a virus is carried on "droplets" or "aerosols" it does not matter; water, as the carrier, is divisible with almost zero shearing force, so as soon as a "droplet" gets where it has air motion available to it (e. G. Through and to the outside of your mask) aerosol-sized particles will be sheared off and now are in the atmosphere. One such particle is of sufficient size in an aerosol to carry enough virons to infect you. If you wear a mask that has two-way flow through it (as do all surgical masks and N95's without valves) then you provide the tiny amount of shearing energy required every time you breathe.

If you wear a mask or other device with a valve then of course there is no protection from you as source control at all -- however, you may obtain some level of personal protection by doing so since you are now using a filter media as it is designed to be used with one-way flow. But that's worthless when it comes to protecting others.

Of course all of this also implies adherence with protocols and proper fit so there is no bypass. If you violate them in any way, such as taking a mask that has been exposed to pathogens from one place into another then you increase the rate of infections from not using a mask at all because you are transporting the virus from where it is not to where it now is. That's stupid and when done by a trained professional it's criminally stupid.

I don't care how many times people with letters after their name keep bull*ting in the media or elsewhere; physics is not a list of suggestions and no amount of credentialism changes it.

3. trump. We know it is all trump's fault. The virus affects certain minorities more, because, well it is trump's racism. But why is south dakota, with no assistance and no prolonged shutdown and no mask mandates, not trump's success?

4. my money shot. The vaccine was approved through an EUA (emergency use authorisation) . This is allowed when there is no effective therapeutic alternative. Well lookie here:

Jan 14,2021 One week after Dr. Paul Marik and Dr. Pierre Kory founding members of the Front Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) along with Dr. Andrew Hill, researcher and consultant to the World Health Organization (WHO), presented their data before the NIH Treatment Guidelines Panel, the NIH has upgraded their recommen*the*tion and now considers Ivermectin an option for use in COVID-19.

You have to love the Market-Ticker. Org and Karl has been killing it since this crap began. Bravo.

[PriscillaM]

People not following precautions does not mean that precautions don't work. Again, people not following precautions does not mean that precautions don't work.

Had these vested interests instead leveraged their dollars to influence Congress / Mitch McConnell / the GOP / Pres Trump, we may have gotten another round of assistance for individuals and businesses, way way sooner. Instead, their aim for short term gains gave way to long term closures. And that my friend is their hubris.

The blame placed in exactly the wrong place is sloppy:

1. precautions. The virus is spread in fecal matter and carried by water. No one, and I mean no one, has said there is a $100.00 fine if you take a shit and then do not wash your hands. It is politically incorrect, because shit eating is common in many cultures. I have been exposed to so many covid cases, I no longer am "careful" if that means wearing a mask. I never was. However, I wash my hands (not santizer) every time I enter a space, every time I leave, and it is 20 seconds with suds. Period. I never wear a mask unless required. I am on a grip of vitamins and ivermectin (see below. And no, I am not sharing). I am either a lucky SOB, my way works, or there is no asymptomatic spread other than through scat.

2. Masks. Masks are ineffective because they cannot work and it is a trivial matter of physics to understand why. If a virus is carried on "droplets" or "aerosols" it does not matter; water, as the carrier, is divisible with almost zero shearing force, so as soon as a "droplet" gets where it has air motion available to it (e. G. Through and to the outside of your mask) aerosol-sized particles will be sheared off and now are in the atmosphere. One such particle is of sufficient size in an aerosol to carry enough virons to infect you. If you wear a mask that has two-way flow through it (as do all surgical masks and N95's without valves) then you provide the tiny amount of shearing energy required every time you breathe.

If you wear a mask or other device with a valve then of course there is no protection from you as source control at all -- however, you may obtain some level of personal protection by doing so since you are now using a filter media as it is designed to be used with one-way flow. But that's worthless when it comes to protecting others.

Of course all of this also implies adherence with protocols and proper fit so there is no bypass. If you violate them in any way, such as taking a mask that has been exposed to pathogens from one place into another then you increase the rate of infections from not using a mask at all because you are transporting the virus from where it is not to where it now is. That's stupid and when done by a trained professional it's criminally stupid.

I don't care how many times people with letters after their name keep bull*ting in the media or elsewhere; physics is not a list of suggestions and no amount of credentialism changes it.

3. trump. We know it is all trump's fault. The virus affects certain minorities more, because, well it is trump's racism. But why is south dakota, with no assistance and no prolonged shutdown and no mask mandates, not trump's success?

4. my money shot. The vaccine was approved through an EUA (emergency use authorisation) . This is allowed when there is no effective therapeutic alternative. Well lookie here:

Jan 14,2021 – One week after Dr. Paul Marik and Dr. Pierre Kory – founding members of the Front Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) – along with Dr. Andrew Hill, researcher and consultant to the World Health Organization (WHO), presented their data before the NIH Treatment Guidelines Panel, the NIH has upgraded their recommen*the*tion and now considers Ivermectin an option for use in COVID-19.

[Chidolitis]

Here are some nonsense things:

If you go to the cabazon outlets, you have to social distance like a mother fucker. You cannot get in to the fucken nike store unless you wait an hour. You do not have to wear a mask outside which is nice. There is no food court to speak of. People just fucken eat on the planters without masks and make a huge fucken mess.

If you go to Morongo casino, there is no social distancing. People are on top of each other like a mass burial pit. You do have to wear a mask but most people stick it under their noses anyway. This actually makes a mask more effective as drops go to the floor, not out the side. You can dine in. And in a move towards racial harmony, I saw many people from differing races and households sitting with each other because, wait for it, there were so many people, there was no room.

This is all one-half mile apart.

If you think there is a cogent argument to be made that there is any benefit to a lockdown, please advise.

People not following precautions does not mean that precautions don't work. Again, people not following precautions does not mean that precautions don't work.

In any public health crisis--hell, even when discussing individual health outcomes-- the main barrier to prevention or positive health outcomes, is lack of patient adherence. Meaning, that people not adhering / following protocol or doctor recommendations, often leads to poor health outcomes or delayed recovery.

In our hobby, we know that using condoms is recommended as latex condoms help prevent infection from STD's. And while not 100%, we know that using them will substantially reduce our chance of infection. Now, you could make the argument that we can CHOOSE to not use the condom as long as we're aware of the risks. This is absolutely true. And you could also then make the argument that if we have the ability to choose to wear condoms, we should be able to CHOOSE to wear masks or socially distance. However, that argument is based on the premise that we:

A) we will analyze all available science in good faith to make an informed decision.

B) all parties involved are aware of the risks and can refuse to engage in acts that can lead to transmission.

This is especially true with condom use. Both parties have to be in agreement and if not, then the sex won't happen. BUT when it comes to COVID-19, not all parties can abstain from participating in an act that can lead to infection. Think a worker with a customer who refuses to wear mask and coughs on the worker on purpose out of anger.

It is also important to note that STD's and COVID-19 have substantially different modes of transmission. Unlike STD's--which require a very specific and intentional set of circumstances to occur in order for infection to take place (Exchange of bodily fluids: blood, semen, vaginal fluid) -- COVID-19 transmission is more readily transmissible via aerosolized droplets from coughs or sneezes. Moreover, it's this ease of transmission that allows COVID-19 to infect and expand it's reach exponentially. This in stark contrast to STD's, whose rates of transmission are much much lower.

Now, if we want to talk about policies and policy making, I can assure you that there are many vested interests at play. The governor and local governments are most certainly receiving input from their health departments, but also business and real estate associations (yes, that includes Casinos, AKA potential donors). The seemingly wishy-washy closure orders, are definitely an attempt at appeasing these donors while balancing the real danger of the pandemic. This explains why one day indoor dining is fine and another day it isn't. Or why certain orders are followed in one city or county and not in another. The sad thing is that many of these business and real estate associations leveraged their wealth and power to reopen businesses back in May, but it was this very same action that led to an increase of cases and ultimately their businesses to be shuttered. They think short term success, not long term. Realistically speaking, had everyone buckled down from the get go, we woulda been out of the woods by Halloween. Instead, these folks went after the Governor and the Mayor, who while not perfect, have had very little in funds to work with other than what's already been allocated. Remember that the Federal government had refused emergency funds to California after the first round. Had these vested interests instead leveraged their dollars to influence Congress / Mitch McConnell / the GOP / Pres Trump, we may have gotten another round of assistance for individuals and businesses, way way sooner. Instead, their aim for short term gains gave way to long term closures. And that my friend is their hubris.