LA LA Land Bullshit and Fight Club

[SuelyBrah]

Did you pop those zits and use the puss as lube for anal?

No I made fried eggs out of them. You want some?

[SuelyBrah]

It's the rules, white knight or not, she deserves it or not, honest mistake or not. You could have walked out the door before you did anything. There's no excuse since you cum. It doesn't matter who cancels who. It doesn't matter what your homies say. It doesn't matter what the rest of USASG says. Since you asked, you are a thief to me.

My advice is, that you can very well get away with PD, HX, and OC. But one day you will be full of bullet holes if you don't repent.

I tried contacting her but no reply. She probably blocked my number and moved on. The thing about the bullet holes comment is that guys put themselves at risk regardless of what they do. He could do everything right and still get robbed and shot. As for her, I thinks he's more likely to be the one who gets capped with that attitude. I'm pretty chilled, but I can't say that for other guys who will be seeing her.

Anyway, I get what you saying. This is something I did not do on purpose, have done, or plan on doing. It was a one time accident, so I don't think it is a repeating pattern to get me into trouble.

[SuelyBrah]

So I'm sitting here wondering. Why did you even try to defuse the situation after the fact. ? Like what were you trying to accomplish by arguing with a girl with an attitude? Honestly curious.

Ok, she's a *****. We all run into those now and then. Fuck her and get out or don't fuck her at all from the beginning.

We were in the middle of it. That's when they tend to show their bitchy attitude. So right after giving BJ, her attitude came out. And I tried to defused it cause I don't want to create tension while we're fucking. Make sense? If I saw that attitude from the getgo before coming near her, it's another story.

[SuelyBrah]

There are plenty of reports of her bad attitude, but guys still keep seeing her without doing any research, smh. She is terrible, but if you spent the time and went thru with it despite the warning signs you absolutely owe her part of the donation.

Where can I find these reports? Show me please. I would not have gone to see her if I had seen these reports. On hx, there's not real negative reviews.

[SuelyBrah]

Imagine going to a car mechanic and changing the oil and all the break pads and then leaving without paying the dude because he was rude to you or took longer than what you expected. Is that fair?

It's the same thing here. And that's why you should pay her. It's just an asshole move if you don't pay her. Just my 0. 02 $.

I do get your point. But it's a bit different with the mechanic analogy. For the mechanic, I am paying for his service AND the parts. He if he fulfill both, repairing my car with his service and replacing the parts, then he has completed his duty and I definitely should pay him regardless of his attitude towards me.

For a provider, you are paying for the action and how she treats you, the overall provider experience yea? In this specific case, the action was bad and the attitude / treatment was even worse. There is an argument to be made about her not fulfilling her end of the bargain here.

So going back to the car mechanic example, I felt as if I went to a mechanic that fucked up my car even more, give me malfunctioning parts and expect me to pay.

[CaptCaveman99]

Short and sweet review:

She's the girl in the pic, but got pimples on her back. Suck at sucking dick, no skills. Her compliance is bad, will not let you do certain position agreed things on her menu. Does not really honor her GFE experience. And worst of all, her attitude is dogshit, bitchy, will try to gaslight you. I DO NOT recommend seeing.

Long fun full story:

I am no beginner when it comes to monger, been at it for years starting on PD (I quit that trash site). Along my journey, I have met many, many girls. I would say that the overwhelming majority of them are okay, some are pretty damn good, some aren't so good but they're not someone I put on a DO NOT SEE, DO NOT RECOMMEND ever again list. About maybe 1 out of 20 or 30, I would say, are ban list worthy.

I met up with his girl from Hx, user name is SabrinaValentine. We screened lightly, texting was cool, everything was cool and I through her door. She sat at the corner of her bed in the other room, didn't greet me. I noticed her annoyed, "not so happy to see you" stare. It was a stare. Now I came in there, dressed up, clean cut, cologne on, greeted her with a "hey how are you?...

There are plenty of reports of her bad attitude, but guys still keep seeing her without doing any research, smh. She is terrible, but if you spent the time and went thru with it despite the warning signs you absolutely owe her part of the donation.

[TheSkinnyPete]

Too funny. There is definitely a part of me that is saying and feeling the exact same thing that you are saying. That shit was justified! Rules are simple, if the client pays the girl and he was respectful and followed her rules, he needs to be treated well. End of story.

Girls who give bad attitude and drama deserve to get shit on. Hate people? Hate guys? Find another hussle.

With all that being said, I do see the other argument of giving her money back. It's not for her. It's for me and my rept. I did texted her a few hours after she texted me. But she didn't reply. I think she thought I had block her cause I wasn't replying. So o well I guess.

Imagine going to a car mechanic and changing the oil and all the break pads and then leaving without paying the dude because he was rude to you or took longer than what you expected. Is that fair?

It's the same thing here. And that's why you should pay her. It's just an asshole move if you don't pay her. Just my 0. 02 $.

[SuelyBrah]

Do not pay that hoe. Dgaf what she say or what other dudes say but that's what butches like her deserve for providing trash service. It's not like you did it on purpose but an honest mistake. Block her number and don't pay. Fuck that ***** LOL.

Too funny. There is definitely a part of me that is saying and feeling the exact same thing that you are saying. That shit was justified! Rules are simple, if the client pays the girl and he was respectful and followed her rules, he needs to be treated well. End of story.

Girls who give bad attitude and drama deserve to get shit on. Hate people? Hate guys? Find another hussle.

With all that being said, I do see the other argument of giving her money back. It's not for her. It's for me and my rept. I did texted her a few hours after she texted me. But she didn't reply. I think she thought I had block her cause I wasn't replying. So o well I guess.

[James D 2004]

I did try to contact her by text, no reply. I got to love the "no white knight" disclaimer there, appreciate it. TBH though, I think she will try to ban me from her "crew" regardless if I give the money back or not. My bros will not be seeing her either. For me, it's not about the money. I'd give it to charity NP. It a matter of her deserving it or not. If she continues to be like this, some guy will beat her ass one day.

My model is, if you are not having a good day or don't like a particular client due to his looks or whatever, just don't be open for business and cancel it.

It's the rules, white knight or not, she deserves it or not, honest mistake or not. You could have walked out the door before you did anything. There's no excuse since you cum. It doesn't matter who cancels who. It doesn't matter what your homies say. It doesn't matter what the rest of USASG says. Since you asked, you are a thief to me.

My advice is, that you can very well get away with PD, HX, and OC. But one day you will be full of bullet holes if you don't repent.

[HiKeke]

Short and sweet review:

She's the girl in the pic, but got pimples on her back. Suck at sucking dick, no skills. Her compliance is bad, will not let you do certain position agreed things on her menu. Does not really honor her GFE experience. And worst of all, her attitude is dogshit, bitchy, will try to gaslight you. I DO NOT recommend seeing.

Long fun full story:

So I'm sitting here wondering. Why did you even try to defuse the situation after the fact. ? Like what were you trying to accomplish by arguing with a girl with an attitude? Honestly curious.

Ok, she's a *****. We all run into those now and then. Fuck her and get out or don't fuck her at all from the beginning.

[GimmeMoreHead]

Short and sweet review:

She's the girl in the pic, but got pimples on her back. Suck at sucking dick, no skills. Her compliance is bad, will not let you do certain position agreed things on her menu. Does not really honor her GFE experience. And worst of all, her attitude is dogshit, bitchy, will try to gaslight you. I DO NOT recommend seeing.

Long fun full story:

I am no beginner when it comes to monger, been at it for years starting on PD (I quit that trash site). Along my journey, I have met many, many girls. I would say that the overwhelming majority of them are okay, some are pretty damn good, some aren't so good but they're not someone I put on a DO NOT SEE, DO NOT RECOMMEND ever again list. About maybe 1 out of 20 or 30, I would say, are ban list worthy.

I met up with his girl from Hx, user name is SabrinaValentine. We screened lightly, texting was cool, everything was cool and I through her door. She sat at the corner of her bed in the other room, didn't greet me. I noticed her annoyed, "not so happy to see you" stare. It was a stare. Now I came in there, dressed up, clean cut, cologne on, greeted her with a "hey how are you?

Her energy was pretty negative. So I figured she's having a bad day.

I proceed by requesting that she use some Listerine mouth wash that I brought with me. (Yes gents, definitely ask them to do this before they give you BBBJ. You'd be surprise how it reduced your chances of getting a viral infection and killing off bacteria.) Anyhow, my exact words: "I have a small request that you use this mouth wash before we start. I always ask every provider to do this. ".

She shook her head and said no. She said, "I already had some breath mints before this. ".

I replied, "oh this isn't for breath freshening. It's for disinfecting. " She said fine, asked me to open it and used the mouth wash. She asked me to wash my hands, and after I remember pulling out my donations to give to her. Then she said to go wash my hands again. Interesting, she would give BBBJ without a using any oral disinfectant and a worry in the world but scared about touching money. Okay.

Soon after, we started off with her giving head. Here honestly, all I have to say is that she suck dick at, well sucking dick. I felt teeth and the motion was not natural.

After a little bit of that, she said to me, "can you get on top. I don't want to ride. ".

My exact reply was, "Sure. You must be tired huh?

Then she replied with an attitude, confrontational tone of voice, "Why?? Do I look tired?" It is not hard to tell if someone is giving you attitude by how they say things, not what they say. I don't need to explain this here. But keep this in mind cause we will go back to it.

I said, "It's the end of the week, most girls are tired. I'm just asking. " I'm trying to defuse the situation cause we are in the middle of it. But honestly, thinking in hindsight, I should've just cut my losses here. Actually, it was best to walk out that door when I noticed her death stare in the very beginning. Learn from my mistake gents.

We put a wrapper on, started off with me on top in mish. A few minutes in, did what I normally enjoy is light kissing of the neck. I notice soon after she didn't like that and she request to go doggy. We did that and I finished soon after cause I wasn't enjoying it any longer. I went to rinse off, came out and she's still giving me this mad dog look. Now this is where the fireworks start to fly.

I calmly and cordially said to her these exact words, "I am not sure if I did something wrong, but you seem a bit annoyed. Was it something that I did?

Her exact reply was, and remember this line, "Perhaps, maybe. " in annoyed tone. (That means yes).

Then I went on to bring up how she gave me a mad dog stare at the beginning, how she seems annoyed to just use listerine mouth wash, and the biggest kicker of all, was her attitude and how she responded to my comment about being tired.

Her reply was, "OMG it's in your head. You are probably coming in here upset and putting this on me.

Gents, this is classic narcissistic manipulation technique, it's called "flipping the trigger. " They will try to pit exactly whatever you are saying about them on to you. I have my masters in psychology.

We go back and forth. She then said, "You are assume that I look upset. She said, "what if I'm not upset but I'm actually dyslexic, got autism, or something like that?" *****, please. I wasn't born yesterday to not know when someone is giving me an attitude, being a *****, and is in a pissy mood vs them actually being autistic.

We went back and forth some more, and ultimately, she said it was all in my head. This is another classic sociopathic argument technique, gaslighting. She's denying my reality and saying what she did was totally normal. I was "overreacting. " her words.

I had enough of arguing with the energy vampire, so I left. As I got out of the door, she said, "Get the fuck out of here. ".

Okay hun.

A bit later, she texted me saying that I forgot to leave behind the donation. To be honest, I did remember touching the money and leaving it behind. But I don't remember if I somehow put it back? Maybe it was when she asked me to go wash my hands again after I pulled out the donation.

Anyhow, I was busy at the time and didn't see nor reply to her text for a few hours. She said she's really appreciated it if I come back and drop off the donation, smiley happy face emoji. Okay hun. You've been such a doll.

Now I had driven out of the area already. I am not a thief and was seriously considering dropping off her donation. Bu considering what I went through? I would NOT want to go through that again even if she PAID me that money instead.

What would you do in this situation gents? How would you handle this from the very beginning? Would you have kept the money to teach her a lesson or send it back?

Do not pay that hoe. Dgaf what she say or what other dudes say but that's what butches like her deserve for providing trash service. It's not like you did it on purpose but an honest mistake. Block her number and don't pay. Fuck that ***** LOL.

[James D 2004]

Short and sweet review:

She's the girl in the pic, but got pimples on her back. Suck at sucking dick, no skills. Her compliance is bad, will not let you do certain position agreed things on her menu. Does not really honor her GFE experience. And worst of all, her attitude is dogshit, bitchy, will try to gaslight you. I DO NOT recommend seeing.

Long fun full story:

I am no beginner when it comes to monger, been at it for years starting on PD (I quit that trash site). Along my journey, I have met many, many girls. I would say that the overwhelming majority of them are okay, some are pretty damn good, some aren't so good but they're not someone I put on a DO NOT SEE, DO NOT RECOMMEND ever again list. About maybe 1 out of 20 or 30, I would say, are ban list worthy.

I met up with his girl from Hx, user name is SabrinaValentine. We screened lightly, texting was cool, everything was cool and I through her door. She sat at the corner of her bed in the other room, didn't greet me. I noticed her annoyed, "not so happy to see you" stare. It was a stare. Now I came in there, dressed up, clean cut, cologne on, greeted her with a "hey how are you?.

She had sex with you. There's no excuse not to pay her. Even if you cannot cum, pull out, or cannot have an erection, she completed her end of the bargain. Nobody can guarantee a good experience or satisfaction. If you don't pay up you are a thief.

Now unless you have too much money with you, you know roughly you have the same or less money when you come out. I smell a rat. If you don't know, you are a newbie. You know exactly how much money you have before getting in for security.

You get into a bad start. Basically, you are saying, "Disinfect your dirty mouth. " I can see how somebody will be offended. I never asked. And I never heard of it. And where do you get the science? Saliva is a pretty potent disinfectant.

No, you can't bring anything and ask another person to put it into their mouth. That's a very high-security risk. Newbie you.

How long did you book? Her menu says she's a high-volume girl. What do you expect? I hesitated but I went ahead because she would be good in video. I booked for a full hour and added video on the spot. She still didn't smile a bit. Came out of the bathroom, kneel down, grab my cock, and brush away, no smiling at all. It was quite refreshing as she was like brushing her teeth but fucking my cock with her cheek. She was more or less the same on the next time, with no smiling. But I can assure you, hidden inside her is a sweet friendly character. You don't want to know but she kisses and cuddles just the same.

Now you may not be a newbie on PD, but on HX you don't kiss necks for the money you paid. If the menu doesn't include DFK, you may touch her tips momentarily if LFK is there, but nowhere else. Not on sensitive places like ears and necks. Not on hair as there's no way but to wash all the hair. Necks can easily leave love marks. Same as DATY and DATO, you have to pay extra if it's not included.

[SuelyBrah]

No comment about the situation, but if you did the deed, and kept the money by accident, you should pay it back. Not some white knight shit, but word will get around, also she's part of a crew. You're not going to be able to see other girls part of the crew if they strike your fancy.

I did try to contact her by text, no reply. I got to love the "no white knight" disclaimer there, appreciate it. TBH though, I think she will try to ban me from her "crew" regardless if I give the money back or not. My bros will not be seeing her either. For me, it's not about the money. I'd give it to charity NP. It a matter of her deserving it or not. If she continues to be like this, some guy will beat her ass one day.

My model is, if you are not having a good day or don't like a particular client due to his looks or whatever, just don't be open for business and cancel it.

[TickingTock]

Short and sweet review:

She's the girl in the pic, but got pimples on her back. Suck at sucking dick, no skills. Her compliance is bad, will not let you do certain position agreed things on her menu. Does not really honor her GFE experience. And worst of all, her attitude is dogshit, bitchy, will try to gaslight you. I DO NOT recommend seeing.

Long fun full story:

I am no beginner when it comes to monger, been at it for years starting on PD (I quit that trash site). Along my journey, I have met many, many girls. I would say that the overwhelming majority of them are okay, some are pretty damn good, some aren't so good but they're not someone I put on a DO NOT SEE, DO NOT RECOMMEND ever again list. About maybe 1 out of 20 or 30, I would say, are ban list worthy.

I met up with his girl from Hx, user name is SabrinaValentine. We screened lightly, texting was cool, everything was cool and I through her door. She sat at the corner of her bed in the other room, didn't greet me. I noticed her annoyed, "not so happy to see you" stare. It was a stare. Now I came in there, dressed up, clean cut, cologne on, greeted her with a "hey how are you?

Her energy was pretty negative. So I figured she's having a bad day.

I proceed by requesting that she use some Listerine mouth wash that I brought with me. (Yes gents, definitely ask them to do this before they give you BBBJ. You'd be surprise how it reduced your chances of getting a viral infection and killing off bacteria.) Anyhow, my exact words: "I have a small request that you use this mouth wash before we start. I always ask every provider to do this. ".

She shook her head and said no. She said, "I already had some breath mints before this. ".

I replied, "oh this isn't for breath freshening. It's for disinfecting. " She said fine, asked me to open it and used the mouth wash. She asked me to wash my hands, and after I remember pulling out my donations to give to her. Then she said to go wash my hands again. Interesting, she would give BBBJ without a using any oral disinfectant and a worry in the world but scared about touching money. Okay.

Soon after, we started off with her giving head. Here honestly, all I have to say is that she suck dick at, well sucking dick. I felt teeth and the motion was not natural.

After a little bit of that, she said to me, "can you get on top. I don't want to ride. ".

My exact reply was, "Sure. You must be tired huh?

Then she replied with an attitude, confrontational tone of voice, "Why?? Do I look tired?" It is not hard to tell if someone is giving you attitude by how they say things, not what they say. I don't need to explain this here. But keep this in mind cause we will go back to it.

I said, "It's the end of the week, most girls are tired. I'm just asking. " I'm trying to defuse the situation cause we are in the middle of it. But honestly, thinking in hindsight, I should've just cut my losses here. Actually, it was best to walk out that door when I noticed her death stare in the very beginning. Learn from my mistake gents.

We put a wrapper on, started off with me on top in mish. A few minutes in, did what I normally enjoy is light kissing of the neck. I notice soon after she didn't like that and she request to go doggy. We did that and I finished soon after cause I wasn't enjoying it any longer. I went to rinse off, came out and she's still giving me this mad dog look. Now this is where the fireworks start to fly.

I calmly and cordially said to her these exact words, "I am not sure if I did something wrong, but you seem a bit annoyed. Was it something that I did?

Her exact reply was, and remember this line, "Perhaps, maybe. " in annoyed tone. (That means yes).

Then I went on to bring up how she gave me a mad dog stare at the beginning, how she seems annoyed to just use listerine mouth wash, and the biggest kicker of all, was her attitude and how she responded to my comment about being tired.

Her reply was, "OMG it's in your head. You are probably coming in here upset and putting this on me.

Gents, this is classic narcissistic manipulation technique, it's called "flipping the trigger. " They will try to pit exactly whatever you are saying about them on to you. I have my masters in psychology.

We go back and forth. She then said, "You are assume that I look upset. She said, "what if I'm not upset but I'm actually dyslexic, got autism, or something like that?" *****, please. I wasn't born yesterday to not know when someone is giving me an attitude, being a *****, and is in a pissy mood vs them actually being autistic.

We went back and forth some more, and ultimately, she said it was all in my head. This is another classic sociopathic argument technique, gaslighting. She's denying my reality and saying what she did was totally normal. I was "overreacting. " her words.

I had enough of arguing with the energy vampire, so I left. As I got out of the door, she said, "Get the fuck out of here. ".

Okay hun.

A bit later, she texted me saying that I forgot to leave behind the donation. To be honest, I did remember touching the money and leaving it behind. But I don't remember if I somehow put it back? Maybe it was when she asked me to go wash my hands again after I pulled out the donation.

Anyhow, I was busy at the time and didn't see nor reply to her text for a few hours. She said she's really appreciated it if I come back and drop off the donation, smiley happy face emoji. Okay hun. You've been such a doll.

Now I had driven out of the area already. I am not a thief and was seriously considering dropping off her donation. Bu considering what I went through? I would NOT want to go through that again even if she PAID me that money instead.

What would you do in this situation gents? How would you handle this from the very beginning? Would you have kept the money to teach her a lesson or send it back?

No comment about the situation, but if you did the deed, and kept the money by accident, you should pay it back. Not some white knight shit, but word will get around, also she's part of a crew. You're not going to be able to see other girls part of the crew if they strike your fancy.

[SuelyBrah]

Short and sweet review:

She's the girl in the pic, but got pimples on her back. Suck at sucking dick, no skills. Her compliance is bad, will not let you do certain position agreed things on her menu. Does not really honor her GFE experience. And worst of all, her attitude is dogshit, bitchy, will try to gaslight you. I DO NOT recommend seeing.

Long fun full story:

I am no beginner when it comes to monger, been at it for years starting on PD (I quit that trash site). Along my journey, I have met many, many girls. I would say that the overwhelming majority of them are okay, some are pretty damn good, some aren't so good but they're not someone I put on a DO NOT SEE, DO NOT RECOMMEND ever again list. About maybe 1 out of 20 or 30, I would say, are ban list worthy.

I met up with his girl from Hx, user name is SabrinaValentine. We screened lightly, texting was cool, everything was cool and I through her door. She sat at the corner of her bed in the other room, didn't greet me. I noticed her annoyed, "not so happy to see you" stare. It was a stare. Now I came in there, dressed up, clean cut, cologne on, greeted her with a "hey how are you?

Her energy was pretty negative. So I figured she's having a bad day.

I proceed by requesting that she use some Listerine mouth wash that I brought with me. (Yes gents, definitely ask them to do this before they give you BBBJ. You'd be surprise how it reduced your chances of getting a viral infection and killing off bacteria.) Anyhow, my exact words: "I have a small request that you use this mouth wash before we start. I always ask every provider to do this. ".

She shook her head and said no. She said, "I already had some breath mints before this. ".

I replied, "oh this isn't for breath freshening. It's for disinfecting. " She said fine, asked me to open it and used the mouth wash. She asked me to wash my hands, and after I remember pulling out my donations to give to her. Then she said to go wash my hands again. Interesting, she would give BBBJ without a using any oral disinfectant and a worry in the world but scared about touching money. Okay.

Soon after, we started off with her giving head. Here honestly, all I have to say is that she suck dick at, well sucking dick. I felt teeth and the motion was not natural.

After a little bit of that, she said to me, "can you get on top. I don't want to ride. ".

My exact reply was, "Sure. You must be tired huh?

Then she replied with an attitude, confrontational tone of voice, "Why?? Do I look tired?" It is not hard to tell if someone is giving you attitude by how they say things, not what they say. I don't need to explain this here. But keep this in mind cause we will go back to it.

I said, "It's the end of the week, most girls are tired. I'm just asking. " I'm trying to defuse the situation cause we are in the middle of it. But honestly, thinking in hindsight, I should've just cut my losses here. Actually, it was best to walk out that door when I noticed her death stare in the very beginning. Learn from my mistake gents.

We put a wrapper on, started off with me on top in mish. A few minutes in, did what I normally enjoy is light kissing of the neck. I notice soon after she didn't like that and she request to go doggy. We did that and I finished soon after cause I wasn't enjoying it any longer. I went to rinse off, came out and she's still giving me this mad dog look. Now this is where the fireworks start to fly.

I calmly and cordially said to her these exact words, "I am not sure if I did something wrong, but you seem a bit annoyed. Was it something that I did?

Her exact reply was, and remember this line, "Perhaps, maybe. " in annoyed tone. (That means yes).

Then I went on to bring up how she gave me a mad dog stare at the beginning, how she seems annoyed to just use listerine mouth wash, and the biggest kicker of all, was her attitude and how she responded to my comment about being tired.

Her reply was, "OMG it's in your head. You are probably coming in here upset and putting this on me.

Gents, this is classic narcissistic manipulation technique, it's called "flipping the trigger. " They will try to pit exactly whatever you are saying about them on to you. I have my masters in psychology.

We go back and forth. She then said, "You are assume that I look upset. She said, "what if I'm not upset but I'm actually dyslexic, got autism, or something like that?" *****, please. I wasn't born yesterday to not know when someone is giving me an attitude, being a *****, and is in a pissy mood vs them actually being autistic.

We went back and forth some more, and ultimately, she said it was all in my head. This is another classic sociopathic argument technique, gaslighting. She's denying my reality and saying what she did was totally normal. I was "overreacting. " her words.

I had enough of arguing with the energy vampire, so I left. As I got out of the door, she said, "Get the fuck out of here. ".

Okay hun.

A bit later, she texted me saying that I forgot to leave behind the donation. To be honest, I did remember touching the money and leaving it behind. But I don't remember if I somehow put it back? Maybe it was when she asked me to go wash my hands again after I pulled out the donation.

Anyhow, I was busy at the time and didn't see nor reply to her text for a few hours. She said she's really appreciated it if I come back and drop off the donation, smiley happy face emoji. Okay hun. You've been such a doll.

Now I had driven out of the area already. I am not a thief and was seriously considering dropping off her donation. Bu considering what I went through? I would NOT want to go through that again even if she PAID me that money instead.

What would you do in this situation gents? How would you handle this from the very beginning? Would you have kept the money to teach her a lesson or send it back?