Mud Hens Arena

[Milt6969]

That's pretty funny.

Ok so now I have sent you a text? Seriously dude? Nope not me. I tried to answer you in the wrong forum and got a point for it. So I'll bring it here. Yes Kris shared your first text with me where you told her you'd be passing through. You told me that as well when you ask for the number. But then when you wrote the review, which by the way I could care less about, you made it sound as though you drove down for nothing. Which you didn't. Now you sent me a private message telling me, and I replied after I ask Kris about it. I told you then her furnace went out, and you were like it's the end of the world. Dude, there are 2 apts at her place, only 2. As I told you before, the landlords son lives in the other one. His son is the one that called the landlord, so she had no choice but to cancel. I told you this in private. I don't pimp for no one, yeah maybe I'm a little partional to Kris because I've known her so long, but I sure ain't no pimp. Hell I wish I was. But since I retired and moved down south, that would be tuff for me to do. I do travel back and forth though. Retirements wonderful and life is good. So try being honest in your reviews. Oh and the first guy, she doesn't do CBJ, so unless his junk was funky or something she would have done BBBJ. So all I'm saying, be honest for christ sake. Oh and I ain't text nobody, but go ahead and tell that one too I guess. Oh, and I can attach the text you sent her if need be, but I'd have to figure out how to block your number off of it. Yep your numbers on it, so I could ya I guess, but whatever. Adios.

[Jackknoff]

Pimpin' ain't easy.

That's pretty funny.

[Milt6969]

Pimpin' ain't easy.

I guess you'd know.

[Eaton Beaver]

Went and saw Kris last night. Had a great time as always. Kissing, BBBJ, DATY, CG, RCG, and finished doggy. Won't go into to many details this time. I was ask earlier by another member about the bad review that Kris got. First off the monger that posted everything cover, that isn't true, she does BBBJ, so unless something was wrong with your junk, just saying. Guys be honest, it's ok if you didn't have a good time, but at least be honest, these girls are as different as we are. Now the member that says he got stood up, I talked to Kris about that as well. I won't go into detail here, but I'll say there is more to the story. I talked to him in private before he posted that review, and I guess he didn't like my response. So that is that. Now if you mongers want a girl that is not on drug's, one that will not rip you off, and does her best to please, then give her a chance. No not all of you will have the same experience, some of us may be harder to please that other's. Some only tell half truths. She wanted me to post a couple of pics, and if you want to know more send me a message, also for the number. Happy hunting guys.

Pimpin' ain't easy.

[SteveJohnAss]

How is what I stated being disrespectful to them? They are addicted to drugs, fact. Because of this they are not able to hold a job. That is why they are doing this. Paying 100 for 20 minutes of fun with a girl that means nothing to you is just idiotic. Sorry to break it to you but we mean nothing to them. If they were to get clean and sober they would not want anything to do with any of us. 100 per hour equals 200 k for a job. These girls are not worth that. It's like paying someone 100 to wash your car when 20-30 would be what it's worth. Am I still in the hobby? Yes and no. I do maybe one every month and a half. The disappointments are overwhelming with these girls for the reasons in my prior post. I don't disrespect the girls when I see them. I'm on time and bring the money we agree on. But you know what is disrespectful? Not looking like their pics, filthy conditions at their place, unsafe or interrupted sessions, not "performing" like they should. Being so stoned they are out of it, poor hygiene. WE are the ones paying. Not the other way around. 100 is not chump change no matter how much you make. I've never been disappointed spending 100 on a couple rounds of golf or a fishing trip with good friends that will be memorable. People are not entitled to 30 dollar an hour jobs in the real world. They have to earn it. I've read people spending 1 k per month for these chicks? That's crazy. Can go on a great vacation every month for that amount or many other things. Stop acting like these girls are damsels in distress that need saving. They scratch an itch for us. No more no less. Trust me, they think of us as ATM's. This is a perfect example of living paycheck to paycheck that so many people are doing now. Paying way to much for something you can get cheaper or should get cheaper. I'm ok if the girl says she won't see anyone for less than 100..

That's some real small pp energy boy. Poor small pp.

[Zixanj]

According to her she does have a boyfriend and has for the past 7 yrs I do have text to confirm this. She is a great 1 nightery. She seems a little handicapped in the head tbh example. She came in the the room all hyper and weird LOL kinda a turn off like dealing with a child in the aspect of maturity. Great with her skill set and I mean all across the board prob best I ever had. But for the price and maturity wouldn't do again. She's not as good looking as her pics portray in the face with all of her filters scale of 1 - 10 I'd give her a 7 ish in the face body prob a 8/9 def top quality compared to stg girls hands down but the price is to much for me.

This post sums her up pretty well. She is definitely not what she seems like in those filtered pictures. Not worth the price IMHO.

My personal experience with her:

Since her rate is so high and it's covid season she was probably a bit desperate and agreed to a little over half of her usual donation for our first meeting. I'm well aware that SWers are struggling right now if not more than anyone. At the beginning of our session I cashapp'ed her full normal rate despite our agreement. She did not check it.

She did BBBJ on me was great and we were about to get started. She asks "so you got a condom?" I was confused. Usually the providers have condoms on them at all times if not just to protect themselves. Why wouldn't she have condoms with her? "I don't have a cock! Why would I carry those?

She told me I can either run to the store and get some or I could pay extra. Keep in mind while she's trying to squeeze more money out of me, I had already sent her well above what she was asking for, even counting this extra amount.

Standing there butt naked and slightly turned off by her greed, I said fine and we continued on.

I would have liked to believe she opened her cashapp after our session and felt pleasantly surprised and guilty of what she did, but that was not what happened.

She messaged me and tried to convince me that I still owed her the extra amount for the BB and that our next session would be the discounted one. Unbelievable. I politely told her to fuck right off.

She apologized and said she hoped it didn't ruin it between us. I have not seen her since.

[WorthlessNut]

Who's lying now Mrs. Hollander? I replied to your Sunday August 16th 16:11 PM on Monday August 17th at 11:43. The PM system indicates that you've read it which you should have done before you even wrote this post today. I have yet to receive a response from you just as I said you wouldn't do.

I'm not incorrect nor did I misunderstand anything. I really look forward to your attempt to explain your actions.

Put the post up and lets see who is telling the truth.

[Engr1994]

I'm sorry but you must be thinking of someone else. I monitor all my public reviews and reports; this is the first time anyone has claimed I've done this.

To make a long story short, the gentleman accusing me of this is incorrect. I've PM'd him here to clear up any misunderstanding but he hasn't responded.

Thank you.

Who's lying now Mrs. Hollander? I replied to your Sunday August 16th 16:11 PM on Monday August 17th at 11:43. The PM system indicates that you've read it which you should have done before you even wrote this post today. I have yet to receive a response from you just as I said you wouldn't do.

I'm not incorrect nor did I misunderstand anything. I really look forward to your attempt to explain your actions.

[DebraHollander]

Looking at other reports / reviews, you're not the only one she has done that to. Giving a provider your real info, especially showing them your I'd and telling them your place of work is a very very bad idea. It takes one pissed off provider to make your life a living hell. You can be blacklisted from seeing another higher end provider, she can contact your employer, make false allegations, tell your wife, family, blackmail you. Etc. If I was going to take that risk, it sure as hell not going to be for an old chubby provider. There are plenty of higher end girls in the Detroit area that are the same price and much better looking.

I'm sorry but you must be thinking of someone else. I monitor all my public reviews and reports; this is the first time anyone has claimed I've done this.

To make a long story short, the gentleman accusing me of this is incorrect. I've PM'd him here to clear up any misunderstanding but he hasn't responded.

Thank you.

[FunTimes4421]

Missy has no pimp or boy friend or husband please stop sending these I'm to me for "information "she is little sweetie pie!

I know her for one year. No problems ever if any problems came about it's my fault.

Thank You.

Airman.

DeOppresso Liber.

According to her she does have a boyfriend and has for the past 7 yrs I do have text to confirm this. She is a great 1 nightery. She seems a little handicapped in the head tbh example. She came in the the room all hyper and weird LOL kinda a turn off like dealing with a child in the aspect of maturity. Great with her skill set and I mean all across the board prob best I ever had. But for the price and maturity wouldn't do again. She's not as good looking as her pics portray in the face with all of her filters scale of 1 - 10 I'd give her a 7 ish in the face body prob a 8/9 def top quality compared to stg girls hands down but the price is to much for me.

[AirPilot69]

Missy has no pimp or boy friend or husband please stop sending these I'm to me for "information "she is little sweetie pie!

I know her for one year. No problems ever if any problems came about it's my fault.

Thank You.

Airman.

DeOppresso Liber.

[AirPilot69]

Don't be helping these moocher they are on something. They lie 100% of the time just find clean ones set price don't do anymore they circulate info just like us! But they think it's not fair we do it. Clean reasonable business deal nothing else.

[SpinnerLover69]

And still you need them. If you didn't, you wouldn't pay. People charge what they can get. So go ahead and offer what you want. And good luck with that.

I pay no more than 60 for qv. I've been turned down often. And That number gets me dates as well. When she declines I'm happy. Why? That tells me how entitled she thinks she is and her service would be bad. We are the customer. So if she's unwilling to make 60 bucks in 15 minutes for doing something easy then that says everything I need to know. They need us, we do not need them. It's not hard to pick up a chick at a bar. That has excitement to it. These girls, especially when paying larger amounts, rarely are exciting. Scratching an itch is not worth 100. Especially when it's all these girls are capable of. Looks like Tori checks most if not all of the boxes. 60 for qv, cute, performs well. She should be the norm not the exception. In Toledo / Cleveland / Akron Tori along with maybe one other are the only ones even worth paying anything for. I just don't get why guys are people for these unattractive slobs. A lot of chumps out their.

[SpinnerLover69]

Well, first, bringing up someone's addiction / mental health issues and using them to justify mistreating then is pretty messed up. Your lack of respect and humanity is likely why you experience bad attitudes. I don't respond well to people who try treating me like trash.

I know providers cut deals. I've benefited from them. But, I don't go in like you "this worthless junkie better take my 60 or she's out on the street muhuhahaha" If they offer a lower rate, I take it. I don't suggest it.

The lower rates for regulars is because they know the money from certain people is consistent. I've had butchers and barbers do the same thing from time to time. That's good business. I wouldn't sit in my barber's chair and go "I know your rate is 25, but, here's 7. Screw you. I know you have a drinking problem. ".

It's funny, you're in the hobby, too. There has to be a reason why you constantly stick around with such horrible circumstances. I'm not ashamed to admit my vision has always made it hard to meet women. I'm legally blind. I am fortunate there are sex workers. I won't lie. It's hard as fuck picking up on nuanced body language that indicates interest when you have bad vision. I'm for sure not the only guy on here like me. Hopefully, that's not any of you and you just pay to hang out with women you find disgusting for the hell of it. Maybe that's a kink I'm not aware of. I won't judge.

Also, LOL at 10 and hour or 60 being enough to raise people out of poverty or housing insecurity.

How is what I stated being disrespectful to them? They are addicted to drugs, fact. Because of this they are not able to hold a job. That is why they are doing this. Paying 100 for 20 minutes of fun with a girl that means nothing to you is just idiotic. Sorry to break it to you but we mean nothing to them. If they were to get clean and sober they would not want anything to do with any of us. 100 per hour equals 200 k for a job. These girls are not worth that. It's like paying someone 100 to wash your car when 20-30 would be what it's worth. Am I still in the hobby? Yes and no. I do maybe one every month and a half. The disappointments are overwhelming with these girls for the reasons in my prior post. I don't disrespect the girls when I see them. I'm on time and bring the money we agree on. But you know what is disrespectful? Not looking like their pics, filthy conditions at their place, unsafe or interrupted sessions, not "performing" like they should. Being so stoned they are out of it, poor hygiene. WE are the ones paying. Not the other way around. 100 is not chump change no matter how much you make. I've never been disappointed spending 100 on a couple rounds of golf or a fishing trip with good friends that will be memorable. People are not entitled to 30 dollar an hour jobs in the real world. They have to earn it. I've read people spending 1 k per month for these chicks? That's crazy. Can go on a great vacation every month for that amount or many other things. Stop acting like these girls are damsels in distress that need saving. They scratch an itch for us. No more no less. Trust me, they think of us as ATM's. This is a perfect example of living paycheck to paycheck that so many people are doing now. Paying way to much for something you can get cheaper or should get cheaper. I'm ok if the girl says she won't see anyone for less than 100. That tells me she would have a bad attitude and more likely bad service. These girls should be thankful for us not the other way. We can easily live without seeing these overpriced girls. They, however, have zero chance of making the money guys are foolishly handing over to them. With all this said I applaud Tori, as she has the combo of decent price, looks, performance. This should be the norm, not the exception.

[NorinRad]

Very WELL said. Just cannot understand how some really think they are getting any sort of quality or fun experience insulting a girl by trying to "negotiate" of a couple bucks? No way the experience, the enthusiasm, or the act itself is going to be as enjoyable when you've raked them over the coals for a small discount?

Maybe I'm wrong here, but I don't treat these providers like cum dumpsters, and actually try to enjoy the visit myself, so is it worth an extra $20-30 to me to have a good time, not just pump & dump, sure. Guess to each their own.

And don't expect those of us who can afford and truly do understand this game to think $100 is a lot of money. You're comparing these girls to houses and cars, you clearly do not get it. You want to bang $60 girls, there absolutely nothing wrong with that. I've done too many to count. Some girls cost more, that's how it goes. If you want to bargain with them like a flea market then expect flea market quality. For those of us who are experienced and can afford it, we have no issue paying more and being on our way. You can haggle with these bottom-feeders all you want over $100 (seriously?) I'm just going to do the same thing without wasting my time or embarrassing myself. Haggling over $100 in this game? Amateur hour.