Sugar bowl sites and sugar babies

[TylerDurden01]

After taking a couple year break on SA I decided it give it a shot again. And wow it has changed for the worse. While there are certainly still some real lookers for sure, there seems to have been a huge influx of chubby, older, and just generally plain or unattractive women then before. The crazy thing is these less attractive types seem to not understand they are not premium level talent. I can't believe the number of chubbies or very plain gals are telling me they expect 300 plus. I mean as much as it sucks, I kind of get the hot ones asking that, but some of these others are just crazy. And god forbid when you tell them, even nicely, that you are not giving them 300. They lose their shit.

As for the hot ones, as discussed 250/300 does not seem to get anywhere these days. From what I can tell 400/500 seems to be the new ask. If not wayyy more in some cases. The level of bitchiness with these seems to be through the roof as well.

I get a chuckle out of the "I know my worth" responses when demanding 500 plus or 2-3 k monthly allowances. On several occasions I nicely replied asking the last time they actually received that amount. And quite often they say its been a long time because "guys on here are cheap" LOL. For as enlightened and worldly as many of them seem to think they are, they all fail to understand basic economics. Which is something is ultimately only worth what someone will pay for it.

Moving on. I do have a small bit of info to pass on based on some convo's so far. I don't have any successful meetups yet, but I do have some info that may at least be slightly helpful. I do have a couple requests at the end. I will be happy to share later if I ever get my groove. I am ok with general gtg in the open forum and more detail in pm's due to loose lips.

Bunnidee.

Endless messaging with no point. When asked if ready to talk or meet just wants to keep messaging about a bunch of nothingness. I do not get these types at all. Really not sure what their end goal is other then to just chat. Seems pointless to me.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d356b...9-fa0379f588d1

VietPersuasiann.

Seems gtg but at a high price.

https://www.seeking.com/member/05340...2-c3d92a929b88

A mouthful.

I would avoid this one. Talked on phone and has an aggressive personality and attitude. Insisted on a 100 paid meet and greet which I said no to. Said I was being cheap. To counter I offered to skip the meet / greet and I would up the amount to a respectable offer in order to get right to the point. She declined. Which told me she is just looking to run a scam in my opinion.

https://www.seeking.com/member/fa13e...4-ec43eef46fe9

Haloangel20.

I am pretty sure this one is running the paid meet and greet then vanish scam too.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1d777...4-bddee2b24aaf

Jnasty199801.

Seemed very much gtg. Got a major escort vibe though. Modest donation ask.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2b078...d-5af797c413a8

Nattie413.

Petty chit chat. Can't get past that. Looks super hot. Probably can't afford anyway LOL.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a29b9...e-4fd3d8bc731f

Extra curious about the last four. Would welcome any info if anyone is willing to share.

Vansflow.

Can't figure this one out. Seems gtg but hard to pin down. Reasonable price but no transportation. So the whole pick up and drop off thing makes for a pain in the ass. May try if she ever commits.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8be9e...1-0967b760724d

Marybear979.

Very curious about this one. Seemed totally gtg. Talked on phone and seemed a bit manic though. But almost in the half b*tch but half fuck your brains out kind of way. I have dated a couple chicks like this in the non SA world and it can make for a good time if you can survive the drama. But I am just speculating so any info would be great if possible.

https://www.seeking.com/member/fe445...c-cfc38adf779a

Skye245.

Seems gtg. Interested in trying this one. The meet right away type. Gives me hesitation when they are too straight to the point.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8fe39...5-85493a5aa6f1

Alli Kitten.

Seems gtg but is kind of all over the place with response times.

https://www.seeking.com/member/fa2f0...f-3b8b9eb4141e

[ChrisHansen92]

Really wanted to sample this biscuit. She shut me down quickly thru texting. Pulled the "all my previous were 500 per meet" I offered her 300 and she basically told me to fuck off.

She is gtg. I have met her a few times. If you like small girls she is 5' and 105 lbs.

[SecretFriends]

Gtg but she is a pro that travels. $300 and I had to get her an uber.

[SecretFriends]

She is gtg. I have met her a few times. If you like small girls she is 5' and 105 lbs.

[Whaler]

What is her complete user name? Hard to look if we don't know that.

Sorry her full user name is Yazzy000 on SA.

[Seb618]

https://www.seeking.com/member/34dab...f-553414201951

Talked to her and she provided some verification via email that she is real. Not in St. Louis (in Columbia MO) so she want 100+ gas money. I asked for more verification and she gets nasty about it. I knew it was a scam, but I tied to see if she would provide anything concrete. No luck so I moved on. If she is real, she would be a great gal, but I don't think that is the case.

[Tony 9]

I agree that if they can get 400 from guy A they will almost certainly try to get 400 from B,C,D at the same time. But I do think that if they're getting a higher ppm then they will probably see less guys at once. Girls getting 100 ppm are probably seeing everyone they can while 400 girl is likely a little more picky / choosey / seeing a small number of clients.

Any woman who has the time will take advantage of the opportunity to make extra money on her terms. That goes for the crack Ho on the street or the high dollar escort. Just like any single gal or stay home mom who is using the a social media site like SA. And its been this way for decades / centuries. Etc. If the college gal can earn $350 a month having erotic chat & sending sexy text w men, maybe that's all she needs make her car payment. She may also go weeks w NO LUCK because she is too picky. A hot single working mom can take her time, weed thru the 20 messages she likely gets daily. Connect with the men who agrees to her terms ($400+) and the schedule "if" she has the time (yes they will make YOU wait) . They will see 10 guys a month if they are able too or she may go unlucky for weeks. No different than the gal charging $200. Is the $400 dollar pussy better spent than on the cheap street walker?? Everyone has their preference.

Posting open remarks about a massage parlor, an escort or an SA profile. You have to expect those remarks won't be "secrets" for very long either.

[DoubleDown11]

BryerBaby23.

This one GTG. Better in person. She is now in the KC area so if any one is in that area, worth trying. She is in the $300 range.

[DoubleDown11]

Anybody have info on Yazzy. Looks like she has been on SA for awhile. If you can give me some info that would be great. Have been talking to her. PM please, Thanks.

What is her complete user name? Hard to look if we don't know that.

[Koompa]

Anyone check this out?? They are promoting some sort of group events. Has scam written all over it.

[Whaler]

Anybody have info on Yazzy. Looks like she has been on SA for awhile. If you can give me some info that would be great. Have been talking to her. PM please, Thanks.

[TossAway7]

I can see how someone has that perspective, but I feel like there is a market for every price point on SA. It's all subjective. We all like different things and are willing to pay for them, and they all like different things and are willing to accept more or less based on those preferences. The lady charging me 4 might be seeing 3 other people that pay 200 and one that pays 600. It might not mean she's picky, it might just mean I didn't negotiate as well as the others, or she because of something I want she inflates the price.

Sure, you're not wrong at all. I would never do 400 as a reference point; I'm just offering a perspective. I'm happy to walk away when the price isn't right for me (though in the first few months 4-5 years ago I certainly chased a bit). We all learn as we go through this and develop what works and doesn't work for us.

[ChrisHansen92]

Let's all dial it back on price. Prices will vary by your age, race, looks, weight, nationally, how desperate they are at that given moment etc. I am not in my early 30's like some guys on there that should not be paying at all. The price she charges me is to touch my dick not yours. Paying more will not always equate to better and lower volume pussy. But generally speaking it usually does. Usually. To those that claim the exclusive only or only a very few guys besides with me or she never goes BB use caution. All of these girls are fucking other men and going bare with someone. All of them. A girl can have a profile and delete after 2 days and not be active again and have over 100 numbers to contact and start having sex with them after they vet them out. It is also skewed when talking price by what is your TCO total cost of ownership? Did you buy her drinks, drinks / dinner, did you spend money on a hotel? Take her shopping? How far did you drive how much time did you invest to get her panties to hit the floor? Sometimes 300 dollars can = 300 dollars. Or it can = 500-600 dollars after you get home and honestly figure what you actually spent. To those that think a Seeking girl would rather fuck 8 strangers for 100 a pop or 2 guys for 400 a pop you obviously have not worked Seeking a while and don't have time and money invested to know this a false assumption.

I agree that if they can get 400 from guy A they will almost certainly try to get 400 from B,C,D at the same time. But I do think that if they're getting a higher ppm then they will probably see less guys at once. Girls getting 100 ppm are probably seeing everyone they can while 400 girl is likely a little more picky / choosey / seeing a small number of clients.

[EliasJay]

I can see how someone has that perspective, but I feel like there is a market for every price point on SA. It's all subjective. We all like different things and are willing to pay for them, and they all like different things and are willing to accept more or less based on those preferences. The lady charging me 4 might be seeing 3 other people that pay 200 and one that pays 600. It might not mean she's picky, it might just mean I didn't negotiate as well as the others, or she because of something I want she inflates the price.

I agree that if they can get 400 from guy A they will almost certainly try to get 400 from B,C,D at the same time. But I do think that if they're getting a higher ppm then they will probably see less guys at once. Girls getting 100 ppm are probably seeing everyone they can while 400 girl is likely a little more picky / choosey / seeing a small number of clients.

[TossAway7]

I get it, I just don't believe it's a strong assumption to make. A guy can guy can pay whatever, and a girl can say whatever, but if one guy for 400 is good then 4 guys for 400 is better.

I agree that if they can get 400 from guy A they will almost certainly try to get 400 from B,C,D at the same time. But I do think that if they're getting a higher ppm then they will probably see less guys at once. Girls getting 100 ppm are probably seeing everyone they can while 400 girl is likely a little more picky / choosey / seeing a small number of clients.