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**Vanderley** · 12-01-04 03:16

I'm amazed these AMPs 'spotlight' are still in business. Doesn't it occur to any of you that it isn't just us johns that read these threads? Let's be a little more careful with our information, gentlemen. Please.

**Romey** · 11-30-04 14:06

Thanks for the input I'll report my findings.
Romey

**Wild Video** · 11-30-04 12:32

I have a news flash for you. I live in Las Vegas and anytime I want a new girl I get them for the price I posted. Maybe I have been doing this much longer than you, in fact I know I have because you are calling the f---ing agency ad's

If you get a local paper called citylife you will get girls that are 9's and 10's for $150-175. I do it all the time. Shall I hold you hand the next time you are in Las Vegas. OMFG, some of you guys have no clue.

WV

>Speck Speck is offline
>Snowman66 trust your instincts.....
>OK, first off, the very best way to get ripped off in Vegas is to call those >ads in papers. The guy telling you that you can get 9's and 10's for >$150-175 must be your worst enemy. The only thing you will get for that >price is a 5-10 minute lap dance...topless if you are lucky.

>Do not f---ing use the ads!

**JPF** · 11-30-04 12:24

Romey:

Ocean Spa
6020 Flamingo (and Jones)

Suncity Spas
2033 Paradise

you didn't ask for this, but I had better luck at

Paradise Spa 2120 Paradise (says Asian in one sign) (W side)

than at Suncity. However, it's all hit or miss. Good luck.

**Speck** · 11-30-04 00:06

OK, first off, the very best way to get ripped off in Vegas is to call those ads in papers. The guy telling you that you can get 9's and 10's for $150-175 must be your worst enemy. The only thing you will get for that price is a 5-10 minute lap dance...topless if you are lucky.

Do not f---ing use the ads!

If you want 9's or 10's, you must be willing to part with $320 minimum. $20 is for a one month membership to ***. Research and find a well reviewed hottie before you go. Set up something ahead of time. It will cost $300 minimum.

Your other option is to dress nice and hang out in a nice casino bar. In my opinion, your best chance is on a Saturday night between 8pm to midnight at a place like Bellagio. It helps a lot if you are staying in the hotel you are picking up at. Bellagio CG's will cost lots...$300+ but probably more like $500+...but some will be very hot.

Your final option for cute girls(not crack heads like downtown and not 40 year old + women) is to do what most guys do. Wait until late friday or saturday night....after midnight and even better after 2am. Any large strip casino will do....MGM, LUXOR, Mirage is particularly good. Just stroll through the casino....especially by the video poker bars. You should be able to find a cute girl under 25 years old willing to go to your room for $200-300. Sometimes even a little less. Make sure you negotiate everything up front(make sure she is not LE first though....grab her ass or tits or something). I avoid black girls in this situation. Too much chance of getting ripped off. Same thing goes for two girls at once. I do not recommend it.

**Romey** · 11-29-04 22:37

I'm in town for a few days staying at the Rio. It would be a great help to get the addresses for Suncity and Ocean Spa, or any other good ones. I have no car so will need to walk or cab
Thanks,
Romey

**Furryscott** · 11-29-04 17:29

Snowman66!

One time A few friends and I had some drinks and went back to the room at the Strat.....(GF works reservations so I got COMPED a Players Suite) Anyways, We were looking through said publication and decided to make some phone calls. We ordered up a girl from here and there in the back to see if the ol' addage "Recent Photo!" was actually true.

See, Now I'm going to drop you a hint. WE DIDN'T STAY IN THE ROOM AND WAIT FOR HER TO SHOW UP! We were down at the bar drinkin it up and having a good time. Every now and then we'd see some pretty good lookers and the occasional Doorstop walk by heading to the elevators, which happened to be only 10 feet away. It takes the pressure off of saying, "Get the F^%K out of my room!" You can get the jump on them and check out the merchandise before you commit to anything. It's safer for you too. (In case Bubba is waiting to put the smack down.)

Hope this helps!

**Muggs** · 11-29-04 03:29

Okay,

Decided to go again to the rooster, this time by myself. The price is much more for single guys...@ $50. I heard that single guys can have a hard time getting lucky. True and untrue...let me tell you about the latter.

As I observed the single guys in the room. They act like a bunch of freakin perv/serial killers. They walk around looking funny and crazy. There is a sex room that people can go have sex in the downstairs area. ANY TIME a male and a female, female/female, or just a single female walks into the room...those freakin guys will bumrush the room. I mean I saw this couple walk in there to just go talk and 10 seconds there were 8 guys right behind them or standing at the entrance continuing to look insided...some were even jerking off or fondling themselves. THATS WHY YOU BASTARDS CAN'T GET LUCKY!!!!

Now, Muggs style is smooth. I sat around just like I was any other club. I would nicely speak or smile at the ladies. Even asked a few for a dance or two. Some can get quite open on the dance floor. Remember if there are single ladies there...they are there for same reason and that is to F#%K! But, a man should still approach the situation as if he was not in a sex club.

Well this nice looking older hispanic lady was sitting next to me. I talked with her from my table. Eventually I was at her table. Told her I was new to this scene and very naive. I asked her for a dance and we danced for about 30 minutes. We then found another table and sat and talked. I even went to get her a soda. The fun was starting to begin. She started to rub my cock and procedded to take it out and give me the most wonder HJ. I fingered the coochie and she came. I started to bang her in the sex room downstairs, but could only enjoy it for 4 minutes because those FREAKIN PERVS WERE STANDING IN THE ROOM...JERKING OFF. So we went upstairs and she rode me in plain view on one of the couches in the couples area. Ended my night very well I must say.

She gave me her number and asked would I be willing to join her again there or her place. Well Muggs never breaks a promise to free coochie. I went to her house TODAY!!!!

Side note...
There was this blond in the sex room on the circle bed, letting 3 guys shoot their loads in her face...while about 40 people watched. I thought that was interesting. LAter saw her in the couples area getting shot at again.

Another side note...
The women that are down with the swinging thing...they have no boundaries. DAMN!!!

**Muggs** · 11-29-04 03:14

Okay,

First of all it's great to know that I don't have to go back to Jacksonville, FL yet. My assignment in Vegas has been extended!!

SO...
A co-worker of mine was telling me about the Famous Red Rooster. She was quite curious about what goes on and wanted someone to go with her. Well, heck, we already screwed since I been here, so I figure why not the heck. She is freaky as hell...but that is another story.

We decided to go Friday Night. I was a little nervous...didn't think I would fit in being 31 yr. But once in it was all gravy...a variety of people of all races, sizes and shapes. Kinda reminded me of a old school type bar. Most of the people were 35 and up. We sat awhile and danced a alittle. She said "let's go to the couples area." Well we went upstairs and BANG!!! Went to the bedrooms and all kinds of fucking was going one. We observed moving from between the two sex rooms for about 45 minutes. I could tell she was getting horny (so was I!!).She put her hands in my pants and proceded to give me a hj. We sat on one of the matresses and she continued and then gave me a bbbj while everyone watched. People actualy just stand around and watch. Kinda turned me on when this other chick was licking her lips at me. She came over and asked could she stroke my cock. My friend said sure and she came and jerked it for about 5 minutes.

LATER on, my friend and I had both gotton head from two other people...(just to clarify...I had women and she had a women and a man). I must say I really enjoyed it so much that I went back the next day. I will talk about that in the next post.

For $30 a couple, I say I got my f#$%kin monies worth.

Next post....

**69Dawg** · 11-29-04 02:20

I made it back again to the place I spoke about a few weeks back. It is called Healthy Massage located behind the Walgrens on the corner of Horizon Ridge Dr. and Stephanie St. There is a Chinese restuarant next door and a Starbucks nearest Stephanie St. They say they close at 11pm but at 7:30 there was only 1 K-girl left named Kelly.
Since I love the table shower I had to indulge again for 80 and then off to a very capable massage from a 6 looking gal late 20s. The usual Vegas happy ending and life is better. This K-girl was not as young nor as enthusiastic about the table shower as the girl named Helen, but it was a worthy effort.
I will be back in search of other girls maybe during the day to see if they have anything else to offer.

**Bill01** · 11-29-04 00:33

I'll be there in Jan for a convention. Any good AMP within walking distance / near the Convention Center? Outcall is too risky. Saw too many being escorted from my hotel last time. Incall is safer.

**snowman66** · 11-28-04 08:53

Hey guys,

Before I go on the advice of another fellow monger, I just want to get more opinions out there from those who know the Vegas call girl/escort scene. This other monger was very nice to shed light on the escort/call girl scene out there. He told me the best way to land 9s and 10s for cheap is by using the weekly magazine that advertises a lot of independent escorts in the back.

I have used them in other cities like LA and SF and AZ and have gotten the bait and switch as well as gotten scammed and bullied by big scary men several times. That is why I am still a little apprehensive even though another fellow monger says it's the best way to get the 9s and 10s for cheap.....$150-$175 for these newbies for 1/2 hour if you call them from an economical non-strip hotel.

Anyone out there who can add to this and pm me would be greatly appreciated!!!!

**Wastrel** · 11-27-04 20:23

2330,

Your post got me curious, so I did a little more digging and found that the "Green Door" is a place that describes itself as "the premier swingers club located in Las Vegas." Those are their words, not mine.

It looks highly commercialized and kind of pricey at fifty bucks or more for up front money just to get in, so it is probably not my kind of place, but might be yours if you are into what some reviews of it describe as "the lifestyle." (Wastrel refuses to have any style, just life.) I also found a few reviews that said money was paid only to find nobody there and nothing happening after getting in, along with some glowing reports on other web sites hinting at how much fun could be had there, which may or may not have been written by someone connected with the joint.

They actually have a website and the url is spelled exactly the way you think it would be for a place called GREEN DOOR located in LAS VEGAS, and they are even listed on a major hotel/tourism booking site (Vegas.com) but the most descriptive piece I found on the "Door" was in an online excerpt from an article in Las Vegas Magazine at http://www.lvlife.com/2003/03/feature1.html which also remarks on some of the other businesses there as well as the general environment of the center.

I also dug up a four year old article in the R-J which was relevant. Here are a few clippings I found interesting, not necessarily posted in their original order, from a longer news article published on October 24, 2000:

"Owners of several Asian restaurants, a health spa and an establishment known as the Green Door Social Club took steps Monday to comply with building, fire and health code violations they were cited for Friday night during a surprise raid on a shopping center.

"The raid was a response to complaints about Commercial Center, a structure that dates back to the 1960s. Police received 387 calls within six months from residents complaining about drag racing, burglaries and gunfire at the shopping center, Unger-Watkins said.

"Bob Davis, manager of the Apollo Spa and Health Club, said the raid was unfair. His business was cited for building violations that he said Building Department officials had ignored during previous inspections.

"The Green Door is licensed as a restaurant, but inspectors found soiled condoms throughout the facility, according to a county report on the raid. An inspector noted that at the Apollo "the only thing that worked right was the front door.

"Rodent droppings were found inside a Karaoke bar, according to a county report. At another bar, mold was found on food and in the ice bin. One restaurant's seating exceeded its occupancy load."

Bon apetite,

Wastrel

**Hooky** · 11-27-04 12:20

Went back to the same AMP today.

I tried last night, made an appointment which had to be later than I wanted due to them being unable to accomodate me on short notice. Then I misjudged travel time and was late, but another customer had come in and bumped me off the schedule.

So back i went today, same thing, I had to go later than I wanted due to their scheduling, got there a few minutes early and had to wait. Wow, business is obviously booming there.

This time there was no discussion of $$, got BBBJ and full nude today. Finished me off with HJ, did a good job, I gave her 8 again.

I realize this is a bit more than some other places, my thinking is that: a. includes full hour b. As an out of towner basically throwing darts, I think it is doing OK c. Alternatives are either high price call girls or low-end hi-risk SG activity, not for me.

All in all I figure not too bad, it was fun.

Nobody there speaks english very well. very difficult to understand mamasan, the girl, and the other girl who answered the phone. Worse than in TJ in other words.

**Wastrel** · 11-26-04 20:02

#2330,

I know The Green Door has been mentioned in the past in some old posts, but I don't remember much of the details. I don't think the search function is working, so you may have to do quite a bit of scrolling back to find anything on it. You could also try a search of the Review-Journal's online archives, becuase I think it has been mentioned in the press a time or two. I've never gone inside.

The area near that old "shopping center" is a low-income neighborhood which has occasional cheap SW activity, especially over behind the Eureka Casino. Be careful and alert to your surroundings in this area to keep yourself safe. It is also occasionally, but not reliably, possible to make an informal pick-up of a semi-pro inside the Eureka, which is about a quarter to a half mile west on the same side of Sahara.

You may see what appear to be some remarkably attractive girls hanging out late at night just a few blocks to the west of the Commerce Center on Karen, which runs behind that center. They are a no-go for guys who share the interests of this forum, becuase the young women there aren't. There is a cross-dresser's nightclub on the north side of Karen near the Commerce Center, and some of them could give lessons to the professional showgirls in town on how to look like a hot lady. In fact some of them probably do work as professional hair and makeup artists for some of the entertainers in town, but they carry a surprise package you probably don't want to find.

I've been curious about what all is in the Commerce Center myself, and I hope someone with more info may jump in.

Regards,

Wastrel