The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[Donatello]

I've known for a while the "little secret" to success in the Sugar Bowl. Treat a girl well, and she's yours. It's really just that simple. And the only reason I don't you guys sharing it is because most of the guys who get the advice STILL won't "get it". So still PLENTY of sweet babies to go around. LOL.

This is actually part of my MO. During my 19 month tenure, I have architect-ed a plan where this is the goal. It has worked VERY well thus far. I tend to be that 'perfect' older guy. Although dominant (which most like), I make them smile, take them to nice dinners knowing all along they will get hooked. I make it very clear I have other SBs which tends to intrigue them even more. Having conversations where they can be themselves, let go, vent, and become emotional creates a lasting effect.

One thing about the "Sugar Bowl," it really hones one's game and takes it to an entirely different level. I find myself getting interest from hotter chicks just about anywhere. Compared to mongering, there are no risk and the 'sessions' are far more better. As you stated, I find it astonishing how many SDs on the site are total dick-heads, but that's great for "businessmen" like us. {smile}.

Keep up the good work!

Cheers! Thresh.

[Thresh]

This is actually part of my MO. During my 19 month tenure, I have architect-ed a plan where this is the goal. It has worked VERY well thus far. I tend to be that 'perfect' older guy. Although dominant (which most like), I make them smile, take them to nice dinners knowing all along they will get hooked. I make it very clear I have other SBs which tends to intrigue them even more. Having conversations where they can be themselves, let go, vent, and become emotional creates a lasting effect.

One thing about the "Sugar Bowl," it really hones one's game and takes it to an entirely different level. I find myself getting interest from hotter chicks just about anywhere. Compared to mongering, there are no risk and the 'sessions' are far more better. As you stated, I find it astonishing how many SDs on the site are total dick-heads, but that's great for "businessmen" like us. {smile}.

Keep up the good work!

Cheers! Thresh.

Totally agree and forgot to mention that there are girls on there that just want a normal guy to treat them nicely and will meet with you regularly without any sugar or the occasional gift if they feel a meaningful connection with you. I have found several such girls that are just tired of being with rude guys and aren't just about the money. Some can't morally justify the concept of 'pay for play', so they just drop the pay part and simply ask for a nice time and a good hard f*ck every so often as your schedule allows. A big thanks to all the crude guys out there that make my approach so successful! LOL.

[YayaGogo]

Every time I have re-upped for a month, it is a gold mine! Definitely a bit more expensive but the quality is 10 fold. And eventually, with time, you can turn one into a $0 cost friend!

Totally agree and forgot to mention that there are girls on there that just want a normal guy to treat them nicely and will meet with you regularly without any sugar or the occasional gift if they feel a meaningful connection with you. I have found several such girls that are just tired of being with rude guys and aren't just about the money. Some can't morally justify the concept of 'pay for play', so they just drop the pay part and simply ask for a nice time and a good hard f*ck every so often as your schedule allows. A big thanks to all the crude guys out there that make my approach so successful! LOL.

[JustFunCoastal]

Sorry it didn't work out for you. I enjoy the chase aspect of it and the prospect of f*cking young, hot girls with goals in life for less $ than pros. However, I never pay for platonic meets and do make it clear that there's no pay without play in case one ever tries the 'I need to get comfortable with you first' routine. Good luck!

Every time I have re-upped for a month, it is a gold mine! Definitely a bit more expensive but the quality is 10 fold. And eventually, with time, you can turn one into a $0 cost friend!

[YayaGogo]

Tried the SD sites and even though you might can find something good here and there, it's still a pain in the ass. The entitlement mentality is grotesque. It's common with these millenials. I went on a few dates and the SB's wanted their money right away and then they would contact me when they wanted more money. To be honest, F* that sh*

Sorry it didn't work out for you. I enjoy the chase aspect of it and the prospect of f*cking young, hot girls with goals in life for less $ than pros. However, I never pay for platonic meets and do make it clear that there's no pay without play in case one ever tries the 'I need to get comfortable with you first' routine. Good luck!

[MrSmithwick]

Tried the SD sites and even though you might can find something good here and there, it's still a pain in the ass. The entitlement mentality is grotesque. It's common with these millenials. I went on a few dates and the SB's wanted their money right away and then they would contact me when they wanted more money. To be honest, F* that sh* I went back to my low key, UTR providers and it's not BS about it. I get to spend good quality time with them and there's no question of what the basis is. I Even get lots of OTC time, especially during the summer when I have the pool open at the house. If you have good luck with SA or similar sites, then hats off to you, I simply don't have the time to be screwing around and waiting on responses from girls who are trying to say they aren't hookers by being on SD sites, when in fact, they are hookers. Let's get real. No money, no date, No money, no sex. Just call the kettle black already.

I've avoided most of the ones on the OP's list for various reasons (majority I haven't even bothered to contact), but can add to the conversation on the following:

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...5-1255e783910b

This one sounds like a scam based on my emails with her. Hasn't gone further.

I met with her when she was starting out last year. Wanted $$ at that time and wouldn't take my offer for $$. 5 weekly for long term arrangement. She is nice, real, and cute, but does not do PDA if you go out in public. I dropped it so idk whether reality has set in for her. Just a young girl / student that heard about the lifestyle and wanted to get the most out of it.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...8-6292c3811fa6

This one has no car (aka red flag), wants you to go to her place off New Bern (another red flag). The pics are her, she has a nice body, but I suspect she is a pro.

Concur she may be a pro, however she is actually smart (can talk about programming) and pleasant (but a smoker) so it may be the case she is a student starting on a bad path. She texted me one morning and had to meet RIGHT NOW (Chapel Hill) as her rent was due. Meeting at a coffee place I noted she had a nice body but she kept scratching her arms and legs. It may have been allergies or something else but it bothered me. She asked for a donation to meet (of course no) asked for me to get a hotel (no) then accepted going to her place. Asked for $$$ but accepted $$ Asked to see the money (weird, but she may have gotten burned in the past). I thought about it on the way and declined when we arrived and I just dropped her off. Did not want to follow up as she seemed off and I suspect may be into drug use.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...0-38002e0558f3

Legit, real pretty, big HUGE breasts. Just wants like 1800 a month, all upfront. Not sure if she is the runner type, but I don't care for that mentality.

Concur she is real. She is a student trying out the lifestyle. Contacted and met with her when she opened the account. She is nice and smart, a bit thick but if you like curvy girls she is perfect for you. She did not ask for that amount from me or having it upfront (she may have since been burnt). I decided against her as my long term SB as I didn't feel the right connection. She would make any serious SD very happy as she is relaxed and pleasant to be around, and very sexual in private when she is into the moment.

This is a fantastic area for the SBSD lifestyle with a lot of real (non-pro) girls trying it out. If you approach them as if they are pros you likely will go nowhere with most of them. I hope others will post their own experiences so we can all learn who is worth pursuing and who is not.

[Pbone888]

Yes. I think I ended up giving her 1 for a lame handjob.

She's clearly a meth / heroin head. Will tell you as much. She's reasonably hot with saggy tits. There is far, far, fra better on sA. I'd be worried she would be setting you up for a sting as she will freely tell you she's been in jail, a lot.

Avoid. Seriously.

[PghGuy2005]

Thanks for the information, but I tend to avoid anyone who has substantial on their profile.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...3-52180bad9473

She wanted 4 Franklins in response to my initial message for an evening of everything.

[Buki1]

Another site like SA?

BTW how has your experience been on SD4 ME lately? I messaged a whole bunch of women and got just one response! SA has been much better.

I believe it's Whats Your Price.

[PghGuy2005]

Thanks for the information, but I tend to avoid anyone who has substantial on their profile.

Apparently most of them do not have a realistic understanding of life in the bowl so just ago go ahead and message who ever interests you the worst thing they can do is say no. With me some of them have said no and I did not hear from them again and some have countered with a lower amount though the latter have been in the minority.

[PghGuy2005]

Another site like SA?

BTW how has your experience been on SD4 ME lately? I messaged a whole bunch of women and got just one response! SA has been much better.

[Thresh]

Now this is good stuff and the fun is just beginning for you. Sure, it requires a bit more effort than BP, but the rewards on the "backend" more than make up for it. With a declining pool of quality providers and service, it will be hard for me to return to standard mongering.

Additionally, I have found my "game" has picked up dramatically from my Sugar Bowl escapades. The charisma and processes used during meet-and-greets will actually transcend to picking up women at the mall, waiting room, and market.

Keep up the good word!: Thresh!

I've got three going now. Hottie in Wilmington, 30, smokin' thin tanned body. Late 20's dark haired here, very hot, slightly big ass, loves group stuff, and two in Jax who play together.

THis place is a gold mine.

[Pbone888]

I've got three going now. Hottie in Wilmington, 30, smokin' thin tanned body. Late 20's dark haired here, very hot, slightly big ass, loves group stuff, and two in Jax who play together.

THis place is a gold mine.

[Monfortu]

Forgot to post these. These are old, so I don't remember all the details and / or deleted all the texts / emails I had with them. The one thing I've learned and some of you guys have more experience, is that the non-black girls between the ages of 18-22 tend to be so full of it. They quickly lose interest or lose their nerve. Best to move fast in a non-threatening way to get them on board. With that said, I had a 19 year old I was with for a few months that was the complete opposite. Just my guess on why I lost so many prospects. The black girls in that age range tend to be more sincere and willing to do anything. Mid-20's to late 20's, they want casual dating. They don't mind being seen with you, they like the aspect of something more friendly and organic. 30's and above, well unless they are married, they have all approached me with serious dating. But I'm in that age range and have no attachments.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...e-e298c2fd4c5e

This one I mixed up with someone below (however the one I mixed her up with is still a BS'er). She is the one who wants money upfront, does not show up for events, charges for meet and greets. She's really good with her words and quite manipulative. I'll giver her that. If I had not already done a few, I would have easily fallen prey. Big warning.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...e-f7ef8424d822

A famous one from BP. Always an issue with hygiene comments.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...4-3f4056f22d3d

Infamous Cali. Looks like she's gone though.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...c-f545174da902

Always on BP. Masseuse section.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...4-862dda27d774

Big girl, expects amount up front, actually was very nice and would be worth it with a young BBW, but something pushed me away. Maybe my cockiness. I don't blame her as she seemed very sincere.

[Pbone888]

Thanks for the information, but I tend to avoid anyone who has substantial on their profile.

Don't. It's usually BS. She'd probably do BBFS for 1. Problem is she is meth head all the way. Hot though.