The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[ArmyNiceGuy]

I'm not freaking out or anything, but DeeOGeebby is definitely not the person she pretended to be for me and it's definitely time for my 6 month check up. If any of you brothers have dreamed of her in the last month or so, please PM me.

[MedJohnson]

Scammer looking for monthly allowance up front. Must think we are all idiots or that we can only think with little head!

On a different note, has anyone had luck with the chicks that say they are looking for "platonic". Wondering if they are actually down for more but using that to weed out the mongers?

Med.

[DirtyDeeds38]

It takes about 2 months on the site to figure out the game.

The first thing you need to do is ignore the greeting messages, most are young pretentious college girls who are trying to impress.

You with what little they have learned in college and trying to establish themselves as highly cultural in order to attract the high powered execs.

The 2nd part is always ignore the monthly income, spoil me with clothing, spa visits etc. Because it ain't happening for them.

And if it were they wouldn't be on there 3 or 4 days a week looking.

The 3rd part is remember it's a numbers game and to try to find the medium of what it costs to get a young hot college chick vs..

Great post, but I don't think there are any absolutes in this arena. I've dated probably over 100 sugar babies over the past five years and still have a few of the girls I originally met wanting to play from time to time. I never once have went over 300 for any allowance and generally speaking have had no issues getting quality girls for 100-200, but again, I do not believe I'm your typical run of the mill daddy. I can adapt and relate and make it a personable experience in many ways for these girls.

I have had many, many non allowance FC sessions. Even a Duke girl who was a total nerdy, but hot 23 years old, one of these hot, but she didn't know it types. Going to school to be a neurosurgeon and she just wanted a hot random experience with an older man. And boy did I give her one. She didn't take a penny. The two girls my buddy and I rocked the other night. Yes, we allowance them, but the next day, they were so into what we had done, the two girls offered another night for no allowance. I've met many lonely, but semi-hot 30-something women who don't even want an allowance, they just want a man and some fun. I've even met a few girls on there who had and make more money then me. I've met two recent doctor graduates who were MD's late 20 and early 30. They just thought it might be a good site to score a man who, "had his shit together."

Anything goes and anything can be found on SA if you play it right and look long enough. I've had orgy parties, threesomes, young hot girls who truly just wanted to experience an older man and to be fucked right, girls who wanted to be a trained sub. Most all of these girls will do a threesomes too, if you bring the right other girl. They love it and get into it. You name it! I like a variety so I tend to move on to the next girl. Yes, I do pay allowances, but my point is, there are other experiences to be found. And 95% of the time, I do not go over 200. I had a girl last week tell me she has never taken a sugar date for less than 400, but agreed to my 200 as she put it, "you're kind of hot and I have fun with you." Again, I gave her a personable experience.

A lot of this that factors in, are you age, looks and how you relate to these girls. Most want a man to dominate them, but if you give them the feeling there is a connection there, you're in.

[Pubb69]

Hey there gents! I just wanted share some tips that have served me well. Also, I've been doing a lot of surfing the net from the sugar baby's point of view to get a better idea of how they think and I've got a heaping ton of info for why'all.

Negotiating tips: Lots of babies seem to throw out a number that's usually 40% or more higher than what they will settle for. Can't blame them really if some daddy will be happy to pay that, but you can sweet talk them lower. Also, I always try to put off negotiation until the m&g. If I can buy some time to spit a little game, emphasize my youth, get them laughing, the allowance will go down. If they want a monthly allowance, I tell them that I don't like to do that anymore and in my experience per meet is always easier for everyone, let them know they never have to worry about you ghosting if you pay per meet. You also don't have to worry about them ghosting on you if they are foolish enough to expect monthly up front. Moreover, if come at you first with a per meet figure that's a little high, tell then you are used to monthly and tell them your usual monthly allowance averages out to a per meet number lower than their initial asking price.

Date tips: Never underestimate the power of chocolate. One of those fancy artisanal chocolate bars makes a great little token to give at a M&G or date to show you care. They can also just put it in their purse so it's discreet. I like to give allowance inside a cheap but cute or funny greeting card, it makes the baby feel like it's less of a transaction. Also chicks love cards.

FC tips. Most hotels will offer an early check in, good idea to call ahead if it's a daytime date. A cheaper hotel in a good area is usually better than a better hotel in a not so good area. I've had good luck with extended stays near business districts. Most other guests won't be paying attention to other people's business and prices are usually lower on weekend date nights because they cater to the midweek business crowd. Just make sure it's clean, no one wants bedbugs. Bring a cheap disposable electronic cigarette to the FC. If a baby turns out to be a smoker, getting dressed to go outside for a smoke can kill the mood if you're looking for round two. A five dollar ecig just might keep her naked and in the room with you after the first round of sex.

Now for the inside info: These girls may not have handlers but they are organized (just like us). Don't underestimate these girls, especially the smart college ones. They were born into the Information Age and know how to use social media. There are uncountable numbers of ****** posts with advice for them as well as lots of info on reddit. This one ****** post has over 200+ links of tips and advice for sugar babies. Most of it is innocent enough, make up tips, seduction, etiquette, safety, etc. Some of it is shit we need to know though! One article is all about how to milk every dime you can out of daddy. Good reading regardless!

https://shadow-kissed-demon.******.c...ide-w-200-tips

Stay safe out there gents.

Edit this site seems to edit out the name of a website that sounds a lot like tumbler, replace the asterisks in the link to go where you need to.

It takes about 2 months on the site to figure out the game.

The first thing you need to do is ignore the greeting messages, most are young pretentious college girls who are trying to impress.

You with what little they have learned in college and trying to establish themselves as highly cultural in order to attract the high powered execs.

The 2nd part is always ignore the monthly income, spoil me with clothing, spa visits etc. Because it ain't happening for them.

And if it were they wouldn't be on there 3 or 4 days a week looking.

The 3rd part is remember it's a numbers game and to try to find the medium of what it costs to get a young hot college chick vs.

A low end hoodie hustler. Offers of 200 is not going to do it for quality but requests of 700 to a thousand are insulting because they are trying to milk you for all your worth, something between 3 and 5 should hit the sweet spot for quality.

Lastly always remember that this is a prostitution site and these girls are only there for your money so don't think about having any type of personal relationship. These women that state that they are looking for dating are full of shit because in the real world dating doesn't require cash compensation. All that being said treat them nice but don't let them make a fool out of you.

[MedJohnson]

Thanks for info. Moving back to the SB game.

Med.

Hey there gents! I just wanted share some tips that have served me well. Also, I've been doing a lot of surfing the net from the sugar baby's point of view to get a better idea of how they think and I've got a heaping ton of info for why'all.

Negotiating tips: Lots of babies seem to throw out a number that's usually 40% or more higher than what they will settle for. Can't blame them really if some daddy will be happy to pay that, but you can sweet talk them lower. Also, I always try to put off negotiation until the m&g. If I can buy some time to spit a little game, emphasize my youth, get them laughing, the allowance will go down. If they want a monthly allowance, I tell them that I don't like to do that anymore and in my experience per meet is always easier for everyone, let them know they never have to worry about you ghosting if you pay per meet. You also don't have to worry about them ghosting on you if they are foolish enough to expect monthly up front. Moreover, if come at you first with a per meet figure that's a little high, tell then you are used to monthly and tell them your usual monthly allowance averages out to a per meet number lower than their initial asking price.

Date tips: Never underestimate the power of chocolate. One of those fancy artisanal chocolate bars makes a great little token to give at a M&G or date to show you care. They can also just put it in their purse so it's discreet. I like to give allowance inside a cheap but cute or funny greeting card, it makes the baby feel like it's less of a transaction. Also chicks love cards.

FC tips. Most hotels will offer an early check in, good idea to call ahead if it's a daytime date. A cheaper hotel in a good area is usually better than a better hotel in a not so good area. I've had good luck with extended stays near business districts. Most other guests won't be paying attention to other people's business and prices are usually lower on weekend date nights because they cater to the midweek business crowd. Just make sure it's clean, no one wants bedbugs. Bring a cheap disposable electronic cigarette to the FC. If a baby turns out to be a smoker, getting dressed to go outside for a smoke can kill the mood if you're looking for round two. A five dollar ecig just might keep her naked and in the room with you after the first round of sex.

Now for the inside info: These girls may not have handlers but they are organized (just like us). Don't underestimate these girls, especially the smart college ones. They were born into the Information Age and know how to use social media. There are uncountable numbers of ****** posts with advice for them as well as lots of info on reddit. This one ****** post has over 200+ links of tips and advice for sugar babies. Most of it is innocent enough, make up tips, seduction, etiquette, safety, etc. Some of it is shit we need to know though! One article is all about how to milk every dime you can out of daddy. Good reading regardless!

https://shadow-kissed-demon.******.c...ide-w-200-tips

Stay safe out there gents.

Edit this site seems to edit out the name of a website that sounds a lot like tumbler, replace the asterisks in the link to go where you need to.

[MedJohnson]

Any info on sweetj77? Fireflyxo98? Elizabeth&?

I usually play the AMPs and have shared what baby knowledge I have. Let me know if you wNt any AMP info.

Thanks brothers!

Med.

[ArmyNiceGuy]

Hey there gents! I just wanted share some tips that have served me well. Also, I've been doing a lot of surfing the net from the sugar baby's point of view to get a better idea of how they think and I've got a heaping ton of info for why'all.

Negotiating tips: Lots of babies seem to throw out a number that's usually 40% or more higher than what they will settle for. Can't blame them really if some daddy will be happy to pay that, but you can sweet talk them lower. Also, I always try to put off negotiation until the m&g. If I can buy some time to spit a little game, emphasize my youth, get them laughing, the allowance will go down. If they want a monthly allowance, I tell them that I don't like to do that anymore and in my experience per meet is always easier for everyone, let them know they never have to worry about you ghosting if you pay per meet. You also don't have to worry about them ghosting on you if they are foolish enough to expect monthly up front. Moreover, if come at you first with a per meet figure that's a little high, tell then you are used to monthly and tell them your usual monthly allowance averages out to a per meet number lower than their initial asking price.

Date tips: Never underestimate the power of chocolate. One of those fancy artisanal chocolate bars makes a great little token to give at a M&G or date to show you care. They can also just put it in their purse so it's discreet. I like to give allowance inside a cheap but cute or funny greeting card, it makes the baby feel like it's less of a transaction. Also chicks love cards.

FC tips. Most hotels will offer an early check in, good idea to call ahead if it's a daytime date. A cheaper hotel in a good area is usually better than a better hotel in a not so good area. I've had good luck with extended stays near business districts. Most other guests won't be paying attention to other people's business and prices are usually lower on weekend date nights because they cater to the midweek business crowd. Just make sure it's clean, no one wants bedbugs. Bring a cheap disposable electronic cigarette to the FC. If a baby turns out to be a smoker, getting dressed to go outside for a smoke can kill the mood if you're looking for round two. A five dollar ecig just might keep her naked and in the room with you after the first round of sex.

Now for the inside info: These girls may not have handlers but they are organized (just like us). Don't underestimate these girls, especially the smart college ones. They were born into the Information Age and know how to use social media. There are uncountable numbers of ****** posts with advice for them as well as lots of info on reddit. This one ****** post has over 200+ links of tips and advice for sugar babies. Most of it is innocent enough, make up tips, seduction, etiquette, safety, etc. Some of it is shit we need to know though! One article is all about how to milk every dime you can out of daddy. Good reading regardless!

https://shadow-kissed-demon.******.c...ide-w-200-tips

Stay safe out there gents.

Edit this site seems to edit out the name of a website that sounds a lot like tumbler, replace the asterisks in the link to go where you need to.

[Pubb69]

Oh, to have the bank account and energy you have! .

Half are meet and greet walk aways.

[Mark User]

On a mission to meet them all.

Anyone have any useful info on her.

Going to have a detailed report on at least 10 coming out soon.

Oh, to have the bank account and energy you have! .

[Pubb69]

On a mission to meet them all.

Anyone have any useful info on her.

Going to have a detailed report on at least 10 coming out soon.

[Pubb69]

Carter and her literal partner in crime Tatum, have been discussed here previously. Back in September / October they robbed one us brothers, avoid like the plague!

Glad I avoided that skank.

[DirtyDeeds38]

I've got to be a top 5 experienced SD in the area, been at this little hobby locally for the past five years. I've recently hooked up with another local SD and we party, trade dates, setup fun times with the girls, drinks, hotel parties, mini orgies, threesomes, girls bringing their friends to us, etc, etc, etc. For the record, nothing illegal and no paying for sex and no offering girls for $, no demons, no drugs, nobody underage. . All legit, legal having fun, so if you're someone into risky illegal shit, do not hit me up. I'm not getting into trouble over sugar dating. LOL. That said, if you're a like minded brother and want to meet up and play the scene locally with some drinks, share some war stories and connections, send me a PM. You'd be surprised what two like minded brothers can stir up out there! One rule I always keep, we both keep our private lives, private! And I will always respect that!

[ArmyNiceGuy]

I went against my rule of meeting them first and had her come over, big mistake.

I didn't treat her like a BP girl she acted like exactly that. Either way I think we both agree that she is not worth a repeat.

No Worries, not saying you treated her like one. Just saying skipping the M&G may have put a bad taste in her mouth. Ba dump bump cha!

On an interesting side note though I recently had a great covered FS date with a 20 yo traveling baby from charlotte. She prefers to skip the m&g because she gets ghosted too much but we had a great 1. 5 hr GFE date meeting at the fc (something I generally don't do as well) It can be a pain to read these girls sometimes.

[ArmyNiceGuy]

After a few messages back and forth we agreed to a meet and greet tonight.

Nothing discussed in the way of money until I was ready to leave the house after confirming.

The last text she sent me was " I don't know if we discussed compensation but it will be $500".

This is for a 30 minute meeting are these women out of their fucking minds!

Carter and her literal partner in crime Tatum, have been discussed here previously. Back in September / October they robbed one us brothers, avoid like the plague!

[Pubb69]

After a few messages back and forth we agreed to a meet and greet tonight.

Nothing discussed in the way of money until I was ready to leave the house after confirming.

The last text she sent me was " I don't know if we discussed compensation but it will be $500".

This is for a 30 minute meeting are these women out of their fucking minds!