The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[Ral613]

I wonder if this is the same MichelleSuzy that was catfishing back in 2018?

Just started on the SD scene as the local provider scene is so flaky. But no success yet. Wanted to try WhatsYourPrice first. Did a couple of Meet and Greets for $ each. Both were super hot young 20's girls.

It was a good time and we discussed an amount for future with mostly the SB doing the host thing.

Halifille.

She did not indicate of a strictly platonic but wanted to get more comfortable before we go ahead with more intimacy. But as of now after couple of weeks after first meet she ghosted and no replies to text. I guess the $ for the first meet is her target or maybe I don't fit the bill for her. We did discuss $$$ for couple of hrs.

MichelleSuzy.

She is super cute. Better than pictures. She did say either monthly allowance or $$$ for couple of hrs. And you can do anything. I was more persuasive with this one and she said we can meet next week sometime and she clearly planned specific timings though we did not fix a day. But she too ghosted or moved on to other SD fishing and no response to text.

Some others are in the pipeline but I am already down close $400 without anything concrete going my way. I guess this is all part of the game. Though I agree that this is more fun than waiting in the hotel parking lots and being ghosted by local providers. But if it doesn't end up the way I want then all the $ is down the drain LOL. I think WYP seems pretty limited. I have to try the SA next if even at least one SB doesn't work out.

Jb.

[Pubb69]

Well maybe she's raising her PPM because she hasn't liked how some meets have gone. . . Or she's seeing her value go up. . . She hasn't raised it on me. . . But frankly if you trest her right and don't great her like an object then 400 would be well worth it IMO having seen her. . . Maybe she just likes me because I took the time to talk and chill and get to know her before jumping to the sheets. . .

YMMV depending on your approach and vibe.

Are we talking about here? Gosh I hope it isn't Anna asking those kind of rates.

[LoveToBall]

If they want the money as soon as you meet, you are probably in for that exact experience. Now some do ask up front because they have been ripped off. Offer half then and show them the other half and put it away so if they do bolt after 30 or 60 you aren't screwed.

Shout out because this is the payment method I propose. Works like a charm (even came in handy recently). Agreed $80 for hh. Showed full, gave her half, kept half. Discussion after round 1 (15 minutes):

Her: That's it. I normally charge $80 for 15 minutes (pimp clearly blowing her phone up -- original quote was 80/150/200).

Me: Check the texts babe, but if you want to call it, cool. That'll be one helluva $40 qv.

Result: On to round 2 (she earned that $80 -- they usually do).

Now if she had the entire $80 (I gave it to her up front or she grabbed it off the table when she got up to fake piss), then I would have either walked and come here complaining about being cheated or that would have turned into a different encounter.

Be smarter.

[VincentCor74]

Got a bead on a mixed 18 year old hottie who is up here in Raleigh from the Sandhills today, with a couple friends. Singles / doubles / triples are apparently available though not sure about F / S.

Outcall / you host only.

HMU if you want her number.

$100 per girl should do the trick.

[ChuckTheFin]

Well maybe she's raising her PPM because she hasn't liked how some meets have gone. . . Or she's seeing her value go up. . . She hasn't raised it on me. . . But frankly if you trest her right and don't great her like an object then 400 would be well worth it IMO having seen her. . . Maybe she just likes me because I took the time to talk and chill and get to know her before jumping to the sheets. . .

YMMV depending on your approach and vibe.

She starts at like 4 or 5. If you want to pay that and not be a cheap-ass, feel free

[Raltime]

I am planning a meeting with RDU Liz this week. Let me know if you want to join. She is a SB, so not low baller or etc. Message me. If you know her, then this is a great deal.

[SneakyMan]

Or maybe people need nonstop being cheap asses?

Guys want a girl to give her body for half price and then ***** about the quality they get in return.

There are plenty of methed out girls that you can hump and dump for $60-100 over on the escorts page. SD / SB is totally different.

When a girl spends 3+ hours with me and we go 2-3 rounds and the entire experience is more girlfriend like than escort. . . Its well worth $3-400.

Its attitides like this that ruin it for the rest of us.

She starts at like 4 or 5. If you want to pay that and not be a cheap-ass, feel free!

[ChuckTheFin]

Because if you haven't maybe you shouldn't assume?

I normally don't want tonpost details but I've seen her twice and she is a super sweet young lady and has spent no less than 3 hours with me each time where we talked, made out and moved to the fun in a natural way. . . Not just a get naked and climb on the bed. . . Recovered, had some food and wine. . . Then on to round two. . . Hung out a bit afterwards before leaving. . . And then have texted and talked between meetings with flirty texts and just saying hi. . .

To me, $300 is a frigging steal for that kind of true GF experience. . . Even if I do have to share her because I don't have the time to see her weekly or more.

Most of these women are not looking to feel like an escort even though everyone knows the deal. . . But when you treat them that way. . . You get what you expect. . . Someone that wants to get it over with asap and get out of there.

I was commenting on THAT particular young lady. I'm sure she appreciates the money.

[VincentCor74]

Or maybe people need nonstop being cheap asses?

Guys want a girl to give her body for half price and then ***** about the quality they get in return.

There are plenty of methed out girls that you can hump and dump for $60-100 over on the escorts page. SD / SB is totally different.

When a girl spends 3+ hours with me and we go 2-3 rounds and the entire experience is more girlfriend like than escort. . . Its well worth $3-400.

Its attitides like this that ruin it for the rest of us.

I was commenting on THAT particular young lady. I'm sure she appreciates the money.

[ChuckTheFin]

I've only had one experience like that so far and won't repeat. . . Discuss that stuff up front and make sure you are getting the ROI for your money. Tell them flat out how long you want them to stay and if they pull the smash and dash, refuse to give them the full agreed amount.

Hint: If they want the money as soon as you meet, you are probably in for that exact experience. Now some do ask up front because they have been ripped off. Offer half then and show them the other half and put it away so if they do bolt after 30 or 60 you aren't screwed.

Weeding out the cash grabbers is tough but damn well worth it once you find your gem (s).

Your correct in what you say, the problem is they don't work any different than escorts. Most stay less than a hour.

[ChuckTheFin]

Now here's someone that gets it!

I've had similar experiences though not as long term because I'm newer to this game. I won't put their names up here because randoms have ruined situations for me in the past by contacting them and tossing my name out.

You have to figure out who the pros are on the SD sites and who aren't. I always make sure to discuss details, as respectfully as possible, so I'm getting a ROI that makes sense initially.

For instance: One woman drives from Wilmington to see me. Stays at least 4-5 hours and drives home for $500. See her every couple of weeks and its an amazing time. I thought we were done because she wanted a full amount to come up and not fool around. . . But I refused. . . She came back and we are now talking a monthly so she can come up more and it will be significantly less for me on a per-visit basis.

Maybe I'm just luckier than others to have no problem affording that and still looking for others. . . But the sugar Bowl isn't for everyone. One of the biggest complaints I hear is women getting low balled by people that really shouldn't be in this game. Just go look up what the average SB receives in other places to see how cheap $500 for someone to spend 4-5 hours truly is.

There are enough just looking for a pump and dump, but enough who play the sugar game for a better bread. However, we have to control the prices, but can't when newbies start throwing cash without understanding the local market. An A girl can demand a ton, but if we control it across the market and they need it, it can be had. Just clean up your approach, take it a little slower, work it like a business negotiation and treat them with a little respect. I just finished a two year stint with a UNC knock out (moving out of state for grad school). 1 K a month had two visits a week, and after 6 months, she was staying the night those two times per week (and staying a third on many occasions). The real sugar comes in after trust is built and you start taking vacations together. Trust me, it's not that hard.

Stay safe and use the big head.

Gibbs.

[Svt4628]

Not sure about this one. Won't send any additional pics and pretty upfront that she'll only do oral first time. Wants 300.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1e142...6-938e19fc81f0

She will drop her $ amount and said mutual oral is good for first date. I've been tempted but been too busy to break free to try it out.

[Kirron]

Not sure about this one. Won't send any additional pics and pretty upfront that she'll only do oral first time. Wants 300.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1e142...6-938e19fc81f0

Her WYP profile has more photos - https://members.whatsyourprice.com/p...dmq9P5aN8GQ3Z1.

[Gibbs70]

There are enough just looking for a pump and dump, but enough who play the sugar game for a better bread. However, we have to control the prices, but can't when newbies start throwing cash without understanding the local market. An A girl can demand a ton, but if we control it across the market and they need it, it can be had. Just clean up your approach, take it a little slower, work it like a business negotiation and treat them with a little respect. I just finished a two year stint with a UNC knock out (moving out of state for grad school). 1 K a month had two visits a week, and after 6 months, she was staying the night those two times per week (and staying a third on many occasions). The real sugar comes in after trust is built and you start taking vacations together. Trust me, it's not that hard.

Stay safe and use the big head.

Gibbs.

Or maybe people need nonstop being cheap asses?

Guys want a girl to give her body for half price and then ***** about the quality they get in return.

There are plenty of methed out girls that you can hump and dump for $60-100 over on the escorts page. SD / SB is totally different.

When a girl spends 3+ hours with me and we go 2-3 rounds and the entire experience is more girlfriend like than escort. . . Its well worth $3-400.

Its attitides like this that ruin it for the rest of us.

[AzBadger7]

Not sure about this one. Won't send any additional pics and pretty upfront that she'll only do oral first time. Wants 300.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1e142...6-938e19fc81f0