The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[SmallAsianCock]

Any info on this lady.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...a-f5f2d50db8da

[Biscuits1234]

*To clarify, I get fully what the site is about (SA). I get the expectations, rules, and unsaid limitations.

With that out of the way. I have met quite a few girls / ladies off of the site. Being moderately successful, along with being in good shape while in my mid 30's, at least ok looking, and being overall adequate at personability and fun fun. I must say I am 9 out of 10 times disappointed in the holistic quality of SBs. They tend to fall into 3 categories and the 4th being titled "Unicorn".

Couldn't have said it better myself. A striking percentage of women on SA fall into the first two categories.

Unfortunately, there are also a significant amount of men out there who still pay their ludicrous prices for arrangements. I've had moments where I offered less to settle for less (desperation in a competitive market), only to be promptly "bought-out" by some other high roller with low standards whom has no respect for his own money. I've had unkempt land whales with year (s) old accounts message me trying to get half a grand+ for a meet and greet; which means some fool out there is paying those prices! Yuck.

Then there's the "cinderellas" as you describe. Beautiful, excellent social skills, prompt with communication, no bullshit. Until she gets in the door. Suddenly it becomes clear that a worn out couch cushion would have rewarded you with a better time. The one unicorn arrangement I managed to win over lasted about 7 months. She unfortunately moved away to take care of aging family.

I've already given up on STG and other sites. SA is (and has been) on the downward spiral for a while now. It's only a matter of time before I abandon that ship too.

[DionysusVice]

*To clarify, I get fully what the site is about (SA). I get the expectations, rules, and unsaid limitations.

With that out of the way. I have met quite a few girls / ladies off of the site. Being moderately successful, along with being in good shape while in my mid 30's, at least ok looking, and being overall adequate at personability and fun fun. I must say I am 9 out of 10 times disappointed in the holistic quality of SBs. They tend to fall into 3 categories and the 4th being titled "Unicorn".

I am going to list my experiences and simply pose the question to everyone:

Is there truly enough upside to continue this venture? And, has anyone else experienced the same experiences and outcomes?

1. Angular Queen.

On so many of the meetings I have had, many of the girls had significantly more weight than expected, or did not match their pictural embodiment.

I am a visual man, as I am sure many of you are. But, this comes up so often, I am starting to wonder the amount of filtration and perfect angles are being used. Yes, I try to look my best in my pictures. Yes, I chose the angles that cast me in the right light. But, I also make sure what is in the pictures is an accurate representation of myself. Yet, while casting fog and trying to do a poorly executed magic trick these ladies expect to be benefited as much as those within the top tier. I feel with both misrepresentation and most likely knowing their place, they should know top beneficial arrangements should be kept in perspective.

2. Hollow Beauty.

When I am lucky enough to be graced with the presence of the same beauty digitally was presented to me.

I have been very pleased to meet with a girl that represented herself accurately, even displays grace. If even for a moment. But, once sitting down it is fully business. This (at least for me) is very off putting. As someone that daily dances within the business world and contractual deals. The less business you discuss, the more lucrative the contract. With that mentioned, I get you are attractive. I get you are used to holding all the cards. But, please learn to play poker, or be willing to learn. Maybe I am old fashioned, but aren't these arrangements meant to be beneficial in more than just money. But, even within the cylinder of economics, stock goes up and down. And, once over lunch or dinner conversation ensues, I find myself falling asleep. I think for many men, these are the headless horsemen from Sleepy Hollow, and should be held to standards, regardless of looks.

3. Almost Cinderella.

OK, so she has looks, she has the gift of gab, and she knows how to dance with you in the desired dealings.

But, when it comes times to deliver or naturally move to the agreed / mutually eluded to next steps. All of a sudden a loop hole or a thing magically appears. Though this thing was unforeseen, I am still held to the foreseen expectation. If any pushback is to arise, a pout along with an excuse manifests. Now, the alternative to this is, the first or even a few meetings went well. Then, like a bear trap is activated, more needs are wanted, expectations change, or simply. Demands are expected to be happily acquiesced. Hey! I got married, if this is what I wanted, I would not turn to this location or "hobby."

4. The Unicorn.

She is what I am attracted to. She is what I expect. There is nothing more, nothing less, no one's life is altered or stressed for the worse.

Thanks if read the whole thing!

[SmallAsianCock]

Any comments on her.

https://members.seeking.com/messages...a-9e8b4fc11ad8

There's been recent comment on her. I think I commented as well. Do a search.

[DJprofessorK]

This is a link that leads to your inbox, not a profile.

Any comments on her.

https://members.seeking.com/messages...a-9e8b4fc11ad8

[Raltime]

Any comments on her.

https://members.seeking.com/messages...a-9e8b4fc11ad8

[ElectricHug]

I had the same thing happen years ago. I never discuss money on the site but was told I violated the TOS. Wasn't really looking to meet anyone at the time anyway so let the premium expire. Signed up again a few months later with same account and not problems.

Have dates with a couple of strong POTs, maybe that will tide me over until then, ha.

[Pubb69]

Some years ago, I was banned for mentioning in a message that I liked to take photos during my dates if the girl was into it. Now, I don't know if she reported me or if SA just routinely scans for keywords, but I was banned and told that I was attempting to start an adult entertainment company. Which is absolutely bonkers. They refused to lift the ban, and I just left it alone. About 3 months after that, I randomly tried logging back in. Same email address, same username, same password, nothing changed. And it let me back in.

I have no clue what I did. Maybe the ban is only temporary or timed dependent upon the offense. Real or imaginary.

I don't know why you guys put up with this, by all means contact your credit card company and get it refunded.

There is absolutely nothing on that website that doesn't spell fraud.

[NewRdUGuy]

Some years ago, I was banned for mentioning in a message that I liked to take photos during my dates if the girl was into it. Now, I don't know if she reported me or if SA just routinely scans for keywords, but I was banned and told that I was attempting to start an adult entertainment company. Which is absolutely bonkers. They refused to lift the ban, and I just left it alone. About 3 months after that, I randomly tried logging back in. Same email address, same username, same password, nothing changed. And it let me back in.

I have no clue what I did. Maybe the ban is only temporary or timed dependent upon the offense. Real or imaginary.

I had the same thing happen years ago. I never discuss money on the site but was told I violated the TOS. Wasn't really looking to meet anyone at the time anyway so let the premium expire. Signed up again a few months later with same account and not problems.

[DJprofessorK]

I just got banned from SA for "soliciting" (conveniently a few days after they charged me for 3-month renewal). I do not discuss compensation even in texts, much less the site itself. I wrote their contact us page to ask what happened and they responded with a boilerplate email without any details, just that they have "obtained and verified information" and that they won't respond any further.

Anyone deal with this successfully? I saw a previous post that the admin told them to read the TOS and they got their account reinstated, but I was not given any option like that. I have half a mind to refuse charges on the recent renewal, but not sure if I want to burn that bridge.

Some years ago, I was banned for mentioning in a message that I liked to take photos during my dates if the girl was into it. Now, I don't know if she reported me or if SA just routinely scans for keywords, but I was banned and told that I was attempting to start an adult entertainment company. Which is absolutely bonkers. They refused to lift the ban, and I just left it alone. About 3 months after that, I randomly tried logging back in. Same email address, same username, same password, nothing changed. And it let me back in.

I have no clue what I did. Maybe the ban is only temporary or timed dependent upon the offense. Real or imaginary.

[SmallAsianCock]

I just got banned from SA for "soliciting" (conveniently a few days after they charged me for 3-month renewal). I do not discuss compensation even in texts, much less the site itself. I wrote their contact us page to ask what happened and they responded with a boilerplate email without any details, just that they have "obtained and verified information" and that they won't respond any further.

Anyone deal with this successfully? I saw a previous post that the admin told them to read the TOS and they got their account reinstated, but I was not given any option like that. I have half a mind to refuse charges on the recent renewal, but not sure if I want to burn that bridge.

Sorry about that mate. You can always try SB. The responses are not as great as SA. But at least they are not as strict.

[Maxamillion8]

She has good experience in this hobby. She left for foreign studies after we met. Met her in public without any expectations from either side in Chapel hill area. Her asks is high 4 Benjamin per meet to start with. No hosting. Limited action. She is particular in what she will and what she will not do behind closed doors. That all restrictions came after the doors were closed. LOL. With that limitations, I can't spend that kinda money. I'd pass.

Anyone seen her before? PM me if you'd prefer. Thanks!

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...2-8ec9cf34bd7f

[ElectricHug]

I just got banned from SA for "soliciting" (conveniently a few days after they charged me for 3-month renewal). I do not discuss compensation even in texts, much less the site itself. I wrote their contact us page to ask what happened and they responded with a boilerplate email without any details, just that they have "obtained and verified information" and that they won't respond any further.

Anyone deal with this successfully? I saw a previous post that the admin told them to read the TOS and they got their account reinstated, but I was not given any option like that. I have half a mind to refuse charges on the recent renewal, but not sure if I want to burn that bridge.

[SandPiper540]

Has anyone made contact with this one. She sure sounds legit, I'm hoping to visit her this weekend. https://members.seeking.com/member/a...e-ab583a0a78c4.

[Sobe69]

Another PPM good to go but does not travel and too far for me to make that trip. Someone take one for the team and report back.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...2-84c29f3b5fa4