2000-2004 Archived Reports

[MS Clive]

Hi guys,

I am quite a regular AMP, MSC and Street john. I am not preaching, but just wanna keep the ladies and their customers clean, happy and healthy.

I was reading a book on sex workers and their problems. Man, some of them, especially the non-white ones, have to go through several problems and take on several risks to do what they do. Treat them with some respect and care. If she looks needy and not on drugs, pay her that extra .2 or more, especially if she has also provided good GFE.

Never, never go for a BBBJ, etc. The risk of catching something is way too high. I did a DATY at an AMP recently, but I realized that I was quite a fool when I considered that maybe at least 1200 men had received service from this girl in last 2-3 years. Too much risk of AIDS for me to handle. Besides, AIDS takes up to 8 years to show up after infection. So lesions, etc are only late indicators. My BBBJ and DATY days are over. So when you get out there, do think about the risk factor in your actions.

Girls who work in AMPs work from age 16. They get to keep .4 to .6 out of every 1.6 you pop out. They repay debt for the AMP for first 4-5 years, then send the rest to their family in Korea, etc. Many of these girls are nice people. By the time they are 28 and getting off the market, they have no other skills and no savings to take care of themselves.

Unfortunately, our hobby does harm such fine ladies. I am told that legalizing this lovely business would tend to better their condition, improve supply and quality of ladies, reduce risk of disease and yes - it would also reduce prices.

Lobby with your local politicians - if they can have gay marriages in SF, why can't we legalize the sex trade?

A somewhat concerned,

Clive.

[Zero]

I agree with you baalman2,
I also feel that 1 bad apple can't determine whether the tree is bad.
If you have time, and let your upper head do the thinking, you'll have a great time.
The problem usually start when the other head do the thinking and
you don't have much time to spend.
You end up grab whatever comes to you.
It also pays to visit the place number of times,
that way you know the place's way of deal, walk the walk, talk the talk.
If you don't have that luxury, refer to this great forum, spend some time to do your research.
Like me when I visit SF for only a few days or any other unfamiliar territory,
I maximize my experience there by reading this forum.
Ofcourse, you are bound to stuck in the rip-off joint once in awhile,
but at least you minimize it.
My experience in SF a while ago was great,
sure I got the most expensive HJ in the world courtesy of MBOT ($200 by 2 goddess)
But I actually enjoying every minute there ( I spend 4 hours there)
And thanks to this forum, for sure thing I went to Kings massage,
Had a blast with the girl for 1.5 hour for only$150 ( look my report around January 20th)
Anyway, keep reading here, have a safe hunting and have fun!
Cheers!

[Goodlyken]

ReallyNiceGuy....

Ah, don't base your experience with this girl as absolute. The fact is, this is a safe place that most people can go and if smart, can have great time. I know, going to SF can be tough. But.... take a couple shots of your favorite booze, and start reading back and back in the archives of this sight(there are many other sights on y...ahoo and t...uscl that will give you experience without being there yourself! .
LEARN the negotiating styles there! Now believe me, every girl will be wanting to make as much as they can. BUT, there are certain girls who have been there a while, and, there are girls who haven't and they will deal. Some girls will just be ROB'S(rip off b******)
Here's the deal.... make the woman/girl (hehe) feel she is in control. From the moment you walk in, don't be defensive, be casual. Allow them to approach you and get a couple sweet interludes. Look, let them feel, feel a TINY bit yourself, and smile, then if they just aint what you want, tip them a buck for the feel and say no thanks.

Establish a sense of control and KNOW that you really are in control here. YES someone will rock your world with a look or a feel. But don't give into that!
Here's the deal, MSC is a great place to go if you're willing to spend a couple hours. GO STRAIGHT! DO NOT DRINK/DRUG. Read the reviews and the comments from the past on here and other sights and then (as I said, go without drink or drug) and have fun. Take in the pleasures and when you know some chick is playin you, take her feel and say...no thank you! The others that you're not sure of, tip them a buck and get a quick feel and watch 'em!

MSC is a playground for the informed and un-f***** up.

Go now my sons (tic),

Live there in peace,

Ken

[ReallyaNiceGuy]

Hello Everyone,

My niece joined me, late Friday night, on this trip so I had to do a bunch of tourist things all day Saturday so no chance to play. But she left Sunday morning.

After she left I called Kings to make an appointment to see Sherry. Was told she started at 11AM and told them I would be there.

Another great time with her. She is really nice to me.

No rush. No fuss. A real GFE.

Mike

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Hey ChiMan,

Thanks for the straight info on MSC.
Maybe I will try it again now that I know what to do.
I'll be back up there the end of the month.

[ChiMan II]

Team,

Info on MSC. Ok,$20 to get in and $10 for the back room. I always get CBJ for $40. It doesn't matter which girl. I do pay $20 for the little stall. Only pay more if you like throwing money away. These girls are about volume. For FS without CBJ you can negotiate between $60 to $80. Guy's walk away if you have too. It is a test of wills. If you act to into the girl she will sence it and drain your wallet dry.

Peace

[ReallyaNiceGuy]

I had to make a trip up to San Francisco last weekend.

Drove up from Los Angeles, got downtown and checked into the hotel around 7PM. Was going to get a bite to eat and then go to Kings.

On my way down Market St. I passed MSC and decided to stop in and just check it out. Well it was a good plan but it went farther than I planned.

Paid the 20 at the door, went in and sat down in the back row to watch the show. I was there maybe 20 seconds when someone came up behind me, leaned down and said HI. When I turned my head to see who it was I turned right into these big boobs, ah, nice. After I got over that wonderful surprise I could see this beautiful young blond with a great body in a tiny pink bikini smiling at me. That was it, I was gone. We chatted a little bit and she talked me into going to the back, paid another 10, and we went into a room. Some more talking, with her in my face and my hands all over her, I was trying to find out what I can get and how much. She was kind of elusive and would not say much about FS but said she wanted 200. Told her I did not have that much, I only had 100. She said she would do combo CBJ and HJ with CIM for 150, again I told her only 100, she agreed and I pay her. Then she tells me she needs 20 more, for the room, and I tell her this is not going so well and ask for my 100 back. Then she said she would take care of the 20 but needed 5 for a condom so I give it to her. When she returned to the room she has a bag with a bunch of paper towels, a condom and 2 paper towels with alcohol on it. She gave me one and told me to clean my hands while she used the other to clean my Mister. She put the condom on than tore a hole in about 5 paper towels and put them over me. Weird but OK. She started with a BJ and then some HJ with her talking dirty. I told her when I was close she went back to work with her mouth again. I finished there and she kept going and drained me dry. When she finished she just said thanks and left the room. I cleaned up, got dressed and left.

The experience at MSC was OK but I will not go back.

Have fun out there,

Mike

[ReallyaNiceGuy]

Sorry for the long delay of this post as this happened on January 9.

This is my annual trip to San Francisco for MacWorld.

Well I got the call from Sherry, who works at Kings, I told her that I had waited for her call but when I didnÕt hear from her I went ahead and went to Kings. She asked when I had gone there, and when I told her, she said she was working then and was there. WhatÕs up with this? I guess she must have been busy and they just gave me someone else.

She asked if I was going to come back to see her and I asked her if she would come to my room but she said no. But she said that if I came to see her at Kings she would give me real good service. We set up a time to meet that night.

I got to Kings about ten minutes early and when I asked for Sherry again I was told she was not there and I told them I would wait. The two ladies behind the desk started talking to each other in Korean and I just walked over the couch where the girls were and sat down. Oh my, this was great setting there with about eight lovely ladies. Well about two minutes later Sherry came out and said Hi Mike, reached out her hand for me and we went to the back.

It was wonderful and she is great. I would say it is as close to a GFE as you can get.

This was my third time, in three years, to Sherry and every time has been really nice.

[Maltrufio]

Muggs, Broadway has the strip clubs that cater to the tourist crowd. Avoid - all ripoffs, standard practice of the girls hustling for high-priced drinks and no private dances. You get much better mileage at MSC on Market or New Century on Larkin. I've had HJ, BJ, and FS at both. Also, AMPs per capita in SF has to top the nation. They provide a much cleaner environment.

[Muggs]

Question guys,

Is it Broadway that has the strip clubs? Are there any black/latino strip clubs you recommend?

Been to SF once, and i remember passing by some strip clubs.

[Goon]

Went to Mitchell Brothers. Horrible. There is a considerable talent level there, but way too pricey. Found a beautiful asian with fake tits who wanted $400 for a bj, $200 for a hj. Expensive as hell. What are these chicks thinking? Who's paying for that shit? Save your $$$. MSC is much cheaper or an AMP. Fuck Mitchell Bros.

[F Nord]

On Sunday, about 1pm, I was around Folsom and looking for company. I saw 3 WSWs in the area, and the best of them was maybe a 2. The others were 0s (one had a serious scar from her lip to her cheek). I saw the 2 get a ride, and one of the 0s (not scarface) disappeared for a little while then was back. Slim pickings. Where should I spend my time on a weekend afternoon?

[Iron Jack Read]

Greetings from a drained, but very happy guy.

While I appreciate those who seek the best for less, I have to talk about the other end of the scale. On a recent trip, I had the best independent escort ever. A total GFE/PSE.

She met me for dinner at my request since I like to see the goods first. I'm always prepared with a small donation in a card in case they are not to my liking. When I gave her that first, it seemed to set the stage well. Through email she had agreed to dinner at a discount rate, but never actually talked $$ or services - except to note that while she is a vegetarian, that doesn't preclude her eating meat - what an underrstatement.

An exceptionally cute, nicely dressed woman showed up - late 20's early 30's. No where close to "BBW" with the exception of a very large natural rack but not some skinny artificial model. I'm guessing 38DD but I could be wrong and would not want to guess weight, I'm a guy who likes curves but not sumos. Her web pictures are fairly accurate, but she is even better in person.

We had nice dinner, interesting conversation with a few double entendres finishing with "we'll be having desert later".

She gave me a choice of my hotel or her place, she had told me about her dogs, but insisted they would not participate or even be in the room. She seemed to be leaning to my hotel, which was fine with me.

Once in the room, she was all over me, DFK transitioning almost immediately to DT and I do mean deep. I'm not a huge guy but have never had someone totally take me in. Right down to the root and still licking. It escapes me how she could do this. The view of her gorgeous face looking up with her mouth buried in my pubes almost brought me off. We managed to get undressed with the exception of her garter and hose and into bed. I reached down (she was still working real hard on the bbbj) and found she was absolutely soaking and when I eased a finger in, she exploded. If she didn't cum, she should have gotten a golden globe. Combining that with the pulsing and tightness I had to go for the FS, despite the PHENOMENAL bj that she seemed intent on finishing.

It was like she read my mind. "We can go back to that whenever you're ready" she said with a room-brightening smile. The only real sign of a pro came out when she skillfully covered me with the condom in her mouth. We did several positions, again either the best actress or the most orgasmic woman I've known. I couldn't stand it, and pulled away, when true to her word, she peeled off the condom and went all the way down again (and again and again). She sensed when I was exploding and eased up just enough to have me fill her mouth. She continued and continued, milking and sucking until I was totally drained. At that point, I didn't mind that she slipped away without swallowing. I should have asked her why not, but I'm guessing she reserves somethings for her real boyfriends.

With the advancing years, the msog days are history, but not this time!!! She eagerly helped me repeat this scene again, and then one more DT 69 so I wouldn't forget. No swallow 2nd or 3rd time, but, like I said, who cares at that point?

Not a clock watcher either, spending a very nice evening with me. When I slipped the final donation into her purse she was very pleased - I told her to make sure it was right, but she said no matter what, she was sure it was. We were together until she got into the cab, so she was sincere about not counting her fee. If you meet this lady, please don't take advantage. I used the fare structure on her website, assuming what I thought fair for the discounted dinner time. I had budgeted two hours, but we were together well over three. Since she seemed to enjoy it, I thought it was a fair deal.

You can find her as Stephanie or Miss French Kiss on some of the SF area review sites. If you can't, pm me for her website.

Happy trails,

Iron Jack

[MrTallOne]

That was a great report MSClive. Nothing like a fresh girl who is new to the business. Those are the ones I search for.

As for the TVs... look for male features like "adam's apples", male wrists and hands, and the slight difference in the shape of the pelvis.

One tip off is the sw that doesn't want to talk, and goes right to touching your dick.

We have a ton of TVs and transsexuals on Santa Monica blvd down here in Los Angeles.

What is odd is that LE leaves them alone for the most part. I don't want to dwell on that because the reason would probably make me mad.

[Surfer]

MSClive: GREAT post, we need more like this! Glad you heard the male voice on the TV BEFORE getting her/him in your car. ALWAYS consider that possibility in this town, ESPECIALLY near Polk or Larkin.

[MS Clive]

Drove around SF streets on Saturday night. Once after 9pm and once after midnight. 9pm was too busy for SWs to be out on the street. After midnight, there were some fine ladies out there. Going rate for FS in room was .6 to .8.

Picked out a Guatemalan girl who was standing in plain sight so I was cautious if she was a cop or not. She got into my wagon and we talked and we gave each other the LE test (genitals groping) and sure she checked out fine. She was quite pretty but seemed to be on drugs and seemed a bit weird. She was insistent on .8 and in the end I was only happy to have dropped her back. to Post and Larkin.

Then picked out a cute, clean Asian girl. She was classy, but asked for .8. Though she was ideal, I was used to Asian GFE at AMPs, so I passed her up and dropped her back.

Did the rounds and driving north on Larkin I came across two very curvy gals. One seemed Hispanic and the other seemed kinda asian-hispanic mix. She really got my attention. I parked and walked by to check them out. Both had a pretty face and a body to die for. They did not seem like cops (not that clean, out-of-place look). Besides they were talking to customers on the street and other ladies out there too. So I walked down and scanned them out. Suddenly, I heard a man joking loudly. I was dismayed when I realized that the voice came from the Hispanic one (who I thought was a chick). Man, they were TV/TS. I was disappointed, shocked and lost all feelings in the sexual department for a while.

Battered by my experience, I headed for an apple juice in a nearby convenience store. Just right then I saw a real cute half-white, half-black chick with a J-Lo behind walk into the store really fast. I was not sure she was a working girl. She seemed to be in a hurry, which further convinced me that she was not looking for johns. I followed her into a convenience store and checked her out. She was a beauty though only about 5' 2". She paid and walked out before I could though our eyes met and I confirmed that she was a SW or a stripper. I paid the cashier and rushed out behind her and pop her the usual question "Wanna take a ride with me?" But by then she was more than half a block away. I did not chase her, but made a mental note of driving up that road and checking her out.

Right then, across the street, two chicks caught my eye. One was mixed black/caucasian chick with another beauty who looked a lot like Paris Hilton. She was dressed quite unusually too: a red top, fur coat, black full-length skirt and believe it or not: a very British hat. She was classy and would never have thought that she could be a SW. She was fully covered and did not care to meet eyes with me. Because she was standing with her friend who was the regular SW, I approached them and started talking. This babe was a model and her legs (ankles) seemed quite thin. She was really shy and did not want to talk, it would seem. Her friend convinced her to go with me (did not force the issue). She joined me and gave her name as Nikki. To cut a long story short, I gave her .6 for the act and .2 as a tip. Funny thing is that she was wearing 3 bras to give her the fuller-chest look. With her clothes on she was looked like a model. She had gray/blue eyes with a lovely face. She was very clean and not your regular ho. She claimed to be a student and worked occasionaly. With her clothes off she was gorgeous.
In the room, she just sat there and did not know her stuff - e.g. asking for advance cash, keeping the rubber ready, etc. She was basically confused and was expecting me to take care of the rituals. I chatted with her, got her into my arms and began kissing her to which she responded positively and then opened up. That was GFE experience there. Not planned or made up, but natural. I told her I would be gentle too and she seemed to relax.

When the action started, she gave lame head. Her pussy very clean and pink, but was not tight (she was drunk, she told me later). She just laid there.

The sex was not good, but the GFE was good. I knew I did not have a pro in my arms. She could easily become a porn star or a stripper, I told her too.

Anyway, we had a good time and I dropped her off. She kissed me, smiled shyly (genuine stuff) and we parted ways.

Regular MSC and AMP patrons, do try to SWs too. Quite some good stuff after midnight. Almost no LE activity too.