2000-2004 Archived Reports

[James D 2004]

The rooms with wall of mirrors in GF.

[James D 2004]

The return to Golden Flower

I drove from LA to SF, got a ticket in 101. Should have flown. On the same day I reported duty at GF. After a days rest, I was ready for action again as my days in SF were numbered. I didn't want to start a long term relationship, and that LA already had that many talents, and that I didn't bring my vitamin L, returning to GF was only logical. I needed eye candy and I didn't want too heavy action. You don't get that sort of lineups in LA anymore.

In daylight, it's embarrassing to get into GF, see picture. The entrance is on the left. The coffee bar at the right is easy to ignore. But 2nd at Howard is a busy place with pedestrians. Indeed Howard is a major road, part of 101 or something like that. You can see the small sign hanging right above your head if you walk in. It's small but very distinctive in Chinese or Korean characters. If I'm local, I would be surprised if I don't look at the entrance every time I walk pass.

The solution to my problem, I parked at the lot right next to the building on the left. I never paid using the machines. I walked as close to the building wall as possible on the left. As soon as I stepped out of the lot, I U-turned into the entrance lightning fast. From one side of the street, I disappeared rather unexpectedly right out of the parking lot. From the other side of the street, I came out from nowhere and went in the building in no time. Not enough time for anyone to react to my whereabouts. Of course there are many locals watching another silly guy trying to make the obvious not so obvious.

I went in, no mamasan or anybody greeted me. A guy was sitting on one crouch. I sat on the other closer to the girls. There seemed to be some natural ordering of the girls. The hotter girls, who got more business, usually have to sit on the far side when they return to the crouch. The not so hot ones, usually with long trousers, sat closer to my crouch.

I was very happy to spot Young in no time. She seemed to be avoiding me and I knew why. I was still not sure how to make a move so I sat down patiently and confidently like a pro. I couldn't get eye contact with Young. Although everybody saw what I was trying to do and everybody else was giggling Everybody seemed to be puzzled about what had I done to deserve that, and some almost wanted to jump off their seat to volunteer their service.

It was a stand off. Young began trying to get out of it by electrifying the only other client with her eyes. At first I wasn't alarmed. She isn't everybody's cup of tea and that many don't pick beautiful young girls as they do the least. But after a while I was alarmed since I came only for her, and I didn't want to wait another half hour or more. So I walked to the middle of the room and asked her to come with me. She had to, there's no rule ever existed for her not to come. She came with a smile too, not exactly that she's happy. That's another truth of the world – she's willing to fuck a pig for $20 more. But to be fair, it's deep insult to her getting the same as a SW get last time.

I think the system is that she signs herself in. Clients pay her the total. She pays the house for the clock time.

Before she started to try any tricks, I threw money at her. I probably won't have the chance to see her again. I prepared to pull her into the shower with me. But she was focusing on counting the money and walked out at the same time. I let her as half of the time the girls aren't comfortable. And that most girls in MP's need a virginal wash to flush out all the lubricants.

She came back. I told her that I would give her a massage. She agreed as I paid good money for her to lay still. She giggled too much as I was trying to kiss her some sensitive area. So I jumped up and pulled out some more money for her to lay absolutely still for me to do my things. She has nice long legs in proportional and firm round bottom. I flipped her over and touched her pussy. No surprise there, full of lub, and so I didn't went there. After that I let her do her routine. Indeed I was a bit disappointed as she didn't have anything new to show for the money, younger prettier girls usually don't.

I thought of asking her to do the Asian cowgirl but probably I couldn't take it nicely as I didn't have my vitamin with me. Again there was problem changing from reverse missionary to missionary. This time the bed was too short, wall to wall. I pumped her a bit and pulled out. She looked at the condom to see if I climaxed. Of course I didn't. I signaled her to turn over and she knew it was a doggie. Her waist is so tiny that my fingers almost touched when I held her there. I also grabbed her firm round bottom and pounded her hard.

Without vitamins has it's advantages. Without my penis fully erect, filling all spaces and gaps in her pussy, it took me a long time to work to climax. She began to feel uncomfortable. At the end she was on one hand and two knees, the other hand going to her back to hold my hand, sort of begging me to be gentle on her, submissive on the other hand. Made no mistake, good MP's have the same girls sitting there 7 days a week, Young is probably one of them. Making good money, easily a few hundred grands tax free. She is no tight virgin, but she is on the small side and her pussy couldn't get any larger that she already was even with constant pounding day after day.

And she held my hands on our way up, probably the last time I will ever see of her.

T&H

[James D 2004]

The professional in SF

Golden Flower seemed to be my kind of place. I went there Sat 10 pm. Unlike LA, where everybody would be closed, they were smoking. I pressed the buzz button and, like Star Trek technology, the door was unlocked at an instant. (For the non Trekkie's, they use two hidden men to operate the automatic doors in the space craft. The reaction time is unparalleled to this date.)

There were ten or more Korean girls sitting on a plush and bright, large reception room. Mamasan didn't come out so I calmly sat down on one of the two corner crouch. Now there are 4 guys sitting including me.

May be the mamasan was terribly busy. Maybe there was a line. It looked like the other guys were waiting for more girls to come out, not satisfied with the selection at hand. It was like sitting in the now closed LA VIP hostess club. I wouldn't make the mistake again of walking up to the girl and pick her. I wasn't in a hurry and so I really really looked.

A few could be export models, either the body, or the face, but not both, otherwise it would be too easy to pick. All are modern type, as opposed to traditional type Korean girls. Modern medium length straight hair cut, not milky white, probably even some slight sun tan. Sex party dress, everything goes, mostly bikini like tops. Mostly super mini skirts but some long trousers. Most are early 20's. Most are quite beautiful with makeup on, not stucco type. But not outstanding.

I was overwhelmed with eye contacts the instant I went in. Sensing my indecision, many tested my Korean lip reading skills (I had none) and some almost jumped out of their crouch. But I took my time. Long trousers were out. Not showing tummy were out. If the tummy didn't fold well when there were sitting, out. Hidden waist, out. Legs and feet not sexy enough, out. I picked the youngest, prettiest, thinnest one. The only reservation I had was that her legs looked good but might be too thin in the flesh. 'Cause she was sitting next to an older girl, like 25, who walked around a bit with legs like an import model.

Since the other guys didn't make any moves, I went into the control room to find the mamasan. She told me that I have to get the girl myself. Her name was something like Young.

She took me into a room with a mirror wall, and on-suite shower room. The room was very bright too. She just dimmed it a little bit. My reservation vaporized. At close range, she is what a young girl is supposed to be, the look the touch. Her legs and feet were very sexy too. She is on the small side, not that my preference. But if all my requirements are met, the girl has to be model material. The alternative is to shrink to some small size 5'3 to 5'5, which is more easy to find. But then she has to be very thin in proportion, like Young.

She asked me to shower and went out. Came back with a baby doll pajama to keep her sex party dress in tip top condition. She can hear English well, but didn't speak. Though she may or may not speak OK English. But as a true professional in LA, I didn't speak to her at all. She gave me a OK massage, acupressure type. Then walked on me hanging on to the bar near the ceiling. In doing so she was facing the mirror wall fully naked, spread arms and legs. I liked that view.

On the flip, she gave me some lip service, not a lot for Korean standards. But who cares, today is eye candy day. I forget to bring my 10-min Vitamin L for the trip! But for some Korean girls, it doesn't matter. Indeed I was like a flat tire when Young put in the condom, while I didn't even noticed. Then I watched her blowing me and I was as hard as a full blown tire in no time. My kind of girl. Human Vita L is the best. Then she rode me a bit, reverse missionary a bit, pulled me up and changed to a missionary with her head over hanging on the bed edge. That was supposed to be like that. I always had trouble in the changing over, that my legs were always in the wrong place. For Young that wasn't a problem, we got stuck in the middle, both sitting upright. Being a 90 pounder, I just held her whole body and continued the change over.

I think somehow she didn't want me to see her facial expression when I missionary her. So she sort of held my neck tight and stayed close to my chest. I couldn't charge without lifting her body up, which was a bit heavy for that. So I held her neck tight too with both hands and pushed her body onto my pennis when I charged.

She's perfect for me except that she has fake tits. Looked good, not too big. But unlike usual Korean girls, her's too hard. I rather her not doing that. Some girls did some cutting and lifting and turned into an A or A-, very young good looking, no implants.

After I climaxed, she gave me a lip kiss. Again she went out while I rested and showered. She came back in her party dress again and took all the towels, 3 or 4, and the floor towel right out of the shower (classy isn't it?)

I counted $120 from my wallet and tested her. She didn't count but she may or may not watch me count inside the wallet. She seemed to be happy. Another lip kiss and hug later, I couldn't resist to feel her hour glass waist again, while she is already so thin. We hold hands going back up.

When she said goodbye, I asked something like "is the door right there?" Of course I can see that. I really meant am I suppose to walk out like that? I was thinking about the room rate but I didn't want to ask her directly. She didn't really understand but didn't worry if I just walked out the door. I did, passing the control room and in the view of all other girls.

It was unbelievable, I got away with $120 total? For that quality? But I thought GF is expensive? Did they think I belong to some secret society? Did she really like me as my handle suggested? I couldn't wait to see Young before I left, but then I may have to pay them back something.

More next time.

T&H

[Member #6586]

CBJ's, Sex & Greek can always be had at SF strip clubs.

We had a bachelor party for a close freind of mine in SF and after bar hopping & dinner whadda you know we ended up at the Century. Roughly around midnite the place was teeming with snatch Asian, Black & White most girls were between 7-8 a few 9-10's depends on who is rating. I ended up with the hot black gal for $60 worth of lap dances. Upon entering the darkened booth I unzipped my fly unbeknownst to the stripper. I had no undies on, not how I normally cruise around but I knew we would end up at a strip club. Well after a few minutes of rubbing around and the such my woody came out to see what all the commotion was about. My stripper who was doing the ass grind got more than she bargained for when she got poked in the asshole (not penetration). She turned and saw that I meant biz and told me for $200 she would fuck me. I opened my wallet which contained a Benjamin and a couple of fivers and told her that's all I got. Like a good ho she grabbed the cash and said she would be back with a condom...Yeah right! I pulled a Trojan out of my pocket which she inspected to her satisfaction and bagged her right in the booth. Normally I would never be in a strip club because I hate the atmosphere and would not do a Black gal because I can get the same quality in Oakland for less than $170 (Which includes the lap dances.). Another guy in our group got this very hot Asian gal to speak Greek for $300!!! I was like are you nuts!!! Strip clubs are such a rip off.

[Lobo]

I was in town about two weeks ago or so. As usual, the first morning I was awake by 3:30 AM (I'm from the east coast so it felt like 6:30) and mongering by 4. It's been awhile since I've been in town so it took me a little while to find Tenderloin. It seemed kinda dead, although it was pretty late by the time I got there. More LE than I had remembered but again, I don't usually cruise this late. Anyway around Sutter and Larkin (not 100% sure) I saw a tall thin and stacked bsw who looked really pretty. At first I assumed it was a TS since I was in the area where they're more prevalent, but she came up to the car and it was definitely a girl. Went to her shabby hotel room and she was really nice and sweet and let me play to my heart's content. She charged 80 for the half and 100 for the hour (no greek). All in all, more expensive than where I'm from but a great way to start the day.

Lobo

[Degenerate]

I will be down and about in SF in late june, I was there already earlier this year and took a stroll on down O'Farrell, and I was quite disapointed nothing and I mean nothing! I have been reading the messages here and going to an AMP seem like the best bet, but financially I'm not looking at spending 100+ for some snatch. Can anyone recommend some good streets for me to take a stroll around? or maybe recommend some escorts?

[Muggs]

Guys read this study on Asian Massage parlor girls in SF

Pay close attention to the findings.


http://www.caps.ucsf.edu/publications/nemoto.pdf

[James D 2004]

The California challenge

I'm from SoCal and going to NoCal very soon. This time I've time to settle once and for all who is better of the two. Some suggestion and mappable locations will help a lot, I don't have much time to dig up the archive. PM or repeat report here please.

Personal preference: good lineup of Asians, Chinese style or Korean style, though other races are equally welcome. Classy place (relatively speaking) and not that high volume or traffic.

See you soon,

T&H

PS

I have found the AMP info. Which one is better in the daytime? I read that the most selection is late at night. In LA, most Korean girls are resident from morning to 10 pm.

What I don't get is that the escort price in SF is a lot lower than LA, but the Korean AMP is higher. $50 + $100 is pretty standard in LA for 1/2 hour, used to be higher. With all the selection openly in downtown SF, I would have thought the price won't be that high? Maybe too much tourist. Even motel 6 ask for over $100 for a room!

Now I'm more interested in the Chinese houses, if there are the same setup as in LA. In the hey days in LA, $120 total is what you pay, even for pretty 19 year old brand new to the business, or porn starlets. Now most house in LA gone well underground, don't have lineup, too dangerous. Still pay the same but too damn difficult to find pretty 19 year olds, but they are still there. Not that I only do 19 year old, but that's the only description they will tell you if you ask, or that's the only truth they will tell you.

PM me some numbers if there are Chinese houses with lineup of pretty young girls. Name of newspaper will also do, including Chinese.

[Boomshaka]

SW report:

Larkin street (around O'Farrell) was buzzing on Saturday night (about 30% of them were REAL women).

Picked up a fat BSW with huge tits and a toe up face (5-6). She wanted $1.25, but agreed to $.75 AND half the room (don't know how I pulled that one!).

A fun time was had by all....well by me anyways, but she did a great job of faking interest and talking dirty.

A bit pricey for the quality, but it was late and I was antsy.

Boom

[Jim C]

You don't really see SW around Geary anymore, your best bet would be hitting the AMPs or try your luck down around Mission.

[Perv45]

Well, guys..... I am in town on business and staying in the 300 block of Geary. I tried something that was suggested on thso board in March. I walked up Geary to Van nees. Then Van Ness from Geary to California and back. Nada! Yesterday afternoon and night. Checked out a few adjacent streets.... Nada! Going to walk again tonight and see what happens. If nothing else, I get some good arobics, which I really need. Maybe if I go later. REally looking for that crack SW in real need of assistance. Bring her to the hotel for a while. Very leary about going to their place. Don't know who's waiting.

Happy hunting all! The Perv

[MondaysChilde]

Geez this is a quiet board! Several acupressure places in town are turning into full-out brothels. case in point is CEO Massage on 130 Bush, 6th Floor. The ladies pack condoms now, and FS can be had. I got a good blowjob recently, girl was on her knees and I held the back of her head and drove it in until I came. A real knee-trembler.

[Xman90]

Greetings, all!

I will be visiting SF next week, staying near Union Square. It's been almost 20 years since I've been to your fiar city, and was wondering if you could advise some likely strolls I might be able to find some SWs?

Thanks for your time, fellow mongers!

[Member #1082]

F Nord,

That is scary in so many ways, I can't begin to tell you. I highly doubt that you were in any immediate danger from him. He doesn't wan't to create a scene near his 'place of business', especially if it isn't immediately mobile. You should be much more concerned about the what\who\where of her mouth for the bbbj. Crack ho's are at a point where they just don't care anymore and whatever she did for you, she probably did for X number of guys in the days\weeks\months\years preceding. As for going in after she yanks a clean tampon. Well, who knows what she was wearing it to soak up if she wasn't bleeding. Use your imagination on that.

Also, REMEMBER, even if you are using a condom, you are STILL AT RISK! I.E. you can still pick up Herpes from skin contact behind where the condom covers, easily if they have open sores. Herpes is something you will have as a keepsake for the rest of your life. Try explaining that to your wife\girlfriend and if you don't have one then imagine this being the topic of conversation when you meet a woman that you want to be with.

For DFW also, if a sw buys or shows drugs, get away ASAP. If you get her into the car without being observed by LE, you definitely do not want to enter an area where they sell crack as it could also be under surveillance and you will be in a world of hurt if they bust you after that. She WILL probably ditch it in your car and they CAN impound your car (forever) and charge you with possession. LE can search your car if they have reasonable cause to do so. If they observe a hooker buying crack and getting into your car, they definitely can have reasonable cause. In fact, just the hooker would give them that.

OK, off the soapbox. Take care.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to remove the multiple periods at the ends of sentences. To avoid delays in future reports, please use just one period followed by a blank space at the end of sentences. Thanks!

[Spidey]

F-Nord:

Where do you pick up these girls at? Capp St., TL, ?

Where else can you pick WSW in San Francisco?