Arrangement Reports

[StanKost]

I say spend money and do what you have to do that makes you happy. That being said I have probably fucked more girls in the wild than 99% of the posters on this site. When I was in my 20's I would laugh at dudes paying for pussy and say why would you be doing that? That being said I was heavily involved in the nightclub scene and had a crew of guys with high social status and was extremely good looking. I am in my 40's and on gear and I have heard many girls I met through seeking tell me WTF are you doing paying for pussy.

I have known a few guys who introduced me to this who never got pussy without paying for it and started banging escorts at a young age and their mind is kind of warped when it comes to the game. They don't know the difference between fucking a girl for free and on SA.

When you PAY FOR THE PUSSY the girl sees you as a simp in the back of her mind. You are of low value and not of high value. I am in my 40's so I don't give a fuck but call the game as it is.

As Charlie Sheen said in Two and a Half Men "the 500 $ I pay for the prostitute is not for the sex but for the cab that she will take after we have sex" meaning once you pay she doesn't expect you to divorce your wife and merry her or be with her on Valentines day or * and moan when you're on a family vacation with your wife. I've been on that side too and as someone mentioned the free pussy after college becomes the most expensive one as it was in my case. Also when you're married free pussy is hard to come by because girls want a relationship to agree to have sex and most don't want to mess around married men.

[Rileym]

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...1-30f4ce9cd039

Asking 250 and can host. Does anyone have info on her? Seems TGTBT. Thanks!

[RoronoaZ]

I think you guys have a great perspective on the crap sandwich the Millennials have been fed. There's no sense in not living for today when the future is f'd. But I'm a Gen Xer and nobody gives a shit what we think.

As for the free play, it definitely exists even for older guys like me. You have to treat them like a girlfriend not an escort that's on booty call. I've seen a few of the girls on SA because they like the naughty factor, but some don't want or need the money and taking cash for sex doesn't feel right to them. That's why if we're in a long term thing I buy them stuff they need, help with car etc. These are all things you have to do for your vanilla relationships too.

100% on point. The ladies want to be treated well and normally, but that requires the monger to be well and normal (let's face it there's a reason many of these girls are jaded). I'm sure DynoJr has much success with that approach, as do I. These women crave to receive what their shitty father were supposed to give them. It's so clear as day and it's so easy to give because most of the guys just don't get it.

[JustinFields]

To the guys asking how to get freebies use game the way you would in the wild.

My advice is never pay them any allowance. Once you give an allowance it is much harder to convert them to a fuck buddy without pay no matter how good you fuck them or how big your dick is.

Once you give them an allowance they see you as a meal ticket and it is difficult to be reversed. I have done it but better to start off without allowance and go from there.

SA has hit mainstream recently because every girl asks now what type of arrangement are you looking for where this was not the case even 6 months ago. Many guys have gotten freebies and the girls are on to it.

[JustinFields]

I think you guys have a great perspective on the crap sandwich the Millennials have been fed. There's no sense in not living for today when the future is f'd. But I'm a Gen Xer and nobody gives a shit what we think.

As for the free play, it definitely exists even for older guys like me. You have to treat them like a girlfriend not an escort that's on booty call. I've seen a few of the girls on SA because they like the naughty factor, but some don't want or need the money and taking cash for sex doesn't feel right to them. That's why if we're in a long term thing I buy them stuff they need, help with car etc. These are all things you have to do for your vanilla relationships too.

I have never ever bought a girl stuff they need help with in my vanilla relationships. I could understand buy drinks or even dinner but handing them cash I have never done. You are essentially a sugar daddy or a husband.

[JustinFields]

"that paying for girls when younger prevents development of the hunting instinct (game)" Bro, for wanting to drop some truth, that is some pseudoscientific nonsense. I could just as easily say that young dudes gain experience they otherwise would not have when they do this. Also, again, you keep saying that if they save their $$ then it all adds up. They ain't making enough $$$ for that. So they should spend it on whatever makes them happy now. If you're going to connect Seeking Arrangement to wokeness then there is nothing, absolutely nothing, you will not blame on wokeness, which means that it's meaningless and just a thing that old guys say when they no longer understand the world. Also, I am not one of those woke people, but you know, those woke people are all for legalizing sex work. Ever go on twitter? It aint the Far Right taliban types you probably watch that are supporting that. For someone so concerned about instinct, I think being alienated by the world so much that everything seems woke to you is a bad spot to be in.

Bottom line, I am youngish. And I do get laid without paying a dime. AND I use SA, and I get laid more. I am not going to judge or complain or cry about any of it. The economic outlook for this country is bad. We are still in a pandemic. People getting laid and having a decent time, young or old, is a good thing.

I say spend money and do what you have to do that makes you happy. That being said I have probably fucked more girls in the wild than 99% of the posters on this site. When I was in my 20's I would laugh at dudes paying for pussy and say why would you be doing that? That being said I was heavily involved in the nightclub scene and had a crew of guys with high social status and was extremely good looking. I am in my 40's and on gear and I have heard many girls I met through seeking tell me WTF are you doing paying for pussy.

I have known a few guys who introduced me to this who never got pussy without paying for it and started banging escorts at a young age and their mind is kind of warped when it comes to the game. They don't know the difference between fucking a girl for free and on SA.

When you PAY FOR THE PUSSY the girl sees you as a simp in the back of her mind. You are of low value and not of high value. I am in my 40's so I don't give a fuck but call the game as it is.

[DynoJr]

"that paying for girls when younger prevents development of the hunting instinct (game)" Bro, for wanting to drop some truth, that is some pseudoscientific nonsense. I could just as easily say that young dudes gain experience they otherwise would not have when they do this. Also, again, you keep saying that if they save their $$ then it all adds up. They ain't making enough $$$ for that. So they should spend it on whatever makes them happy now. If you're going to connect Seeking Arrangement to wokeness then there is nothing, absolutely nothing, you will not blame on wokeness, which means that it's meaningless and just a thing that old guys say when they no longer understand the world. Also, I am not one of those woke people, but you know, those woke people are all for legalizing sex work. Ever go on twitter? It aint the Far Right taliban types you probably watch that are supporting that. For someone so concerned about instinct, I think being alienated by the world so much that everything seems woke to you is a bad spot to be in.

Bottom line, I am youngish. And I do get laid without paying a dime. AND I use SA, and I get laid more. I am not going to judge or complain or cry about any of it. The economic outlook for this country is bad. We are still in a pandemic. People getting laid and having a decent time, young or old, is a good thing.

I think you guys have a great perspective on the crap sandwich the Millennials have been fed. There's no sense in not living for today when the future is f'd. But I'm a Gen Xer and nobody gives a shit what we think.

As for the free play, it definitely exists even for older guys like me. You have to treat them like a girlfriend not an escort that's on booty call. I've seen a few of the girls on SA because they like the naughty factor, but some don't want or need the money and taking cash for sex doesn't feel right to them. That's why if we're in a long term thing I buy them stuff they need, help with car etc. These are all things you have to do for your vanilla relationships too.

[ArtMann1711]

OK so this is my first attempt on SA. I'll go through the few I've been talking with and what but I know and the bits that make me scratch my head. TLDR Have any of you ever sent money before meeting for "x" reason. Like she needs help or her car is broken kind of stuff? I've Also been talking to a few others and they seem like pros and am curious for intel.

First the "pros".

1. Sweetestbabe https://members.seeking.com/member/e...7-4eb931ee364f.

This one got back to me quick and we switched to text and is looking to setup a ppm. Waiting for initial price and location possibility still but seems like a pro from what I've read lurking here? Anyone met her before?

2. Savannah1770 https://members.seeking.com/member/5...b-430a242eb082.

I saw a few pages back some info about her but did anyone actually go see her?? Immediately switched to text and rates.

Then here's my trouble girls. Basically for both there was long seemingly great conversation that devolved into them having issues of some sort that required money in advance. Both are "new" to the site but having no reference I don't know how often or easy it is for a scammer to setup on SA.

Girl one StarrbabyXX https://members.seeking.com/member/a...a-c209dc4a6f61.

Conversation went on for a while. We started talking arrangements and switched to snap. She sent me some hot pics to get me excited and even responded to a request so this is where my confusion starts because it seemed very nice up to that point. I get her number we switch to text. The story comes out. Now if you look at her profile she's actually specifically saying she needs out of a current relationship so I knew there was some baggage coming. But she wants me to send her enough money she can leave her BF and get her own place so she can be safe. And part of me wants to help her because she's not even asking for all that much because she's got the rest ($300) I guess I'm just in a weird spot I normally see independent girls or massages and here I am trying not to care about her situation but able to help but hoping someone's with experience here has seen this stuff and can help me out?

The second one "beck" https://members.seeking.com/member/9...e-3127cc23cc12.

I'll keep this one shorter but very similar story "feel" and am looking for the same insight as above except this one started "tough" and when we started talking arrangements she admitted to me she had no idea what to ask or anything and would follow my guidance. We switch to text and conversation about a date ultimately lead her revealing she had been kicked out of the house and was staying at her sisters with a broken down car and she's running out of time to stay there. She has t talked any numbers yet but I can't help but my soft side wants to help but I'd go broke helping every girl in trouble too!

On top of these I have one new girl I did set up a date with and TOFT and will report as well as a couple girls from a bit too far away (think one state) who haven't even asked for anything financially but are already just chatting away on snap like FWB. I'm pretty happy with my experience on SA so far just don't know what to do with these 2! Please advise and sorry for the monster write up.

[ZckBrc]

"that paying for girls when younger prevents development of the hunting instinct (game)" Bro, for wanting to drop some truth, that is some pseudoscientific nonsense. I could just as easily say that young dudes gain experience they otherwise would not have when they do this. Also, again, you keep saying that if they save their $$ then it all adds up. They ain't making enough $$$ for that. So they should spend it on whatever makes them happy now. If you're going to connect Seeking Arrangement to wokeness then there is nothing, absolutely nothing, you will not blame on wokeness, which means that it's meaningless and just a thing that old guys say when they no longer understand the world. Also, I am not one of those woke people, but you know, those woke people are all for legalizing sex work. Ever go on twitter? It aint the Far Right taliban types you probably watch that are supporting that. For someone so concerned about instinct, I think being alienated by the world so much that everything seems woke to you is a bad spot to be in.

Bottom line, I am youngish. And I do get laid without paying a dime. AND I use SA, and I get laid more. I am not going to judge or complain or cry about any of it. The economic outlook for this country is bad. We are still in a pandemic. People getting laid and having a decent time, young or old, is a good thing.

[TheArgent]

I'm from NJ and I believe chicago is very similar in terms of cost of living and wages. Unless you're making north of 250 k a year, you are working poor. l.

Nah. If you're two nurses or two teachers, you can get a house in Bridgeport or Armour Square or McKinley Park for about 2. 5 x your annual salary that has a yard, good neighbors and is a 15 min train ride from the Loop. I have friends--teacher, finance, one kid--that moved from Chicago to the Detroit burbs who are moving back to the city because the income / quality of life ratio is better, even though the main expenses seem higher.

[HarryMcHardon]

Well, I didn't mean to ruffle so many feathers here LOL. No worries. I still believe, though, that one shouldn't spend on girls when you're younger simply because you're much more able to get them for free at that age. Someone mentioned this, and I totally agree, that paying for girls when younger prevents development of the hunting instinct (game) that should be developed when you're younger. And saving all that $$$ will able a guy to be able to buy them when he really needs to pay – when he's older and can't get them otherwise, except dried up old hags!

And the younger guys need to realize that whatever game you develop when you are younger will only get better as you age, because you gain confidence and status if you become successful in life. If you don't develop some type of game when younger, there's nothing to build upon. And if you stay in shape and keep your looks, add the $$ and you can be deadly in the P2 P game. In our culture, broke older guys are probably the lowest on the totem pole socially and in the mating game. Even fat, old women can get action. But broke, older men? For the most part, nah. J.

And for me, no I'm not bitter at all. I've had a decent run on SA, for an older guy, and being a relative newbie at mongering at all. I will concede it takes tons of work though, probably a lot more than it takes a younger guy. It is what it is.

And truth be told, push cums to shove, I'd trade places with any of you younger guys in a minute. You have plenty of time to make stupid mistakes and hopefully recover from them. And stupid mistakes are fun! Older guys don't have the luxury of making a lot of stupid mistakes. LOL.

And I would tend to agree with all of you who say that our economic system is rigged and unfair, and there's an impending collapse coming. Even though I went to college, I started out with nothing working years in a factory making $5/ hr, but had success upward from there. I don't think that's possible any longer. And you CAN blame the Boomers for that. But I don't see succeeding generations doing that much to change things economically, as they seem to be more concerned with materialistic consumption (which just feeds the current unfair economic model) and their politics is aimed more towards social issues woke stuff and climate change – not changing the economic model.

[LolBoat]

Can you come off as any more bitter? I am on the younger side and have covid dated girls off apps who went the SA route during COVID as a way to either supplement or replace lost info. They were pretty open about their experiences and I can assure you, in this small sample size it wasn't young guys who were creeping them out and being pushy about shit like CIP. Being able to budget and set aside money to hobby isn't some unattainable knowledge held only by 60 year olds, so it doesn't have to be "stupid" money that we spend. It helps not having family expenses, constantly having to buy hotels, and paying for kids. But hey, if you want the economy to crash so you can continue making feeble attempts to lowball hot 20 something's, by all means keep your fingers crossed. Also LOL at the "gig job" pot shot. You sound exactly like the type of person that gets managed out for someone half their age and twice as smart. I've been off SA as a break, but this post made me want to rejoin and just pursue every single woman you message.

Hes def the treacherous, out of touch greedy boomer. He had a stable good paying job since 1982 and prob retired 5 years ago and he still thinks you can just buy a house and raise a family on a 100 k a year LOL.

[JustinFields]

I agree with this, but after reading these comments, all the talk about younger guys living in their parents' basement yet spending their discretionary $$ freely buying into the bangfest on SA, I feel much less sorry for them now, when I read the news headlines about how young people can't afford homes these days. LOL. Can't afford a home? Ya think! Here's an OK Boomer secret SAVE your discretionary income, bang free fat girls, DON'T blow it on hot SB's! LOL.

Also, about the recent influx of younger guys on SA I wonder how much of this is due to all the stupid money being made trading on Robinhood and meme stocks. Also the Bitcoin bubble. All this is stupid money which will vaporize when there's an inevitable crash in these markets. It's when and not if. Enjoy it while you can guys! So maybe us older farts should hope for an economic crash to flush these young hot shots back to their gig job income where they would likely be otherwise? And out of SA? Hahaha.

The other thing is, college athletes can now make money off their names via advertisements, endorsements, etc. Etc. Maybe more stupid money potentially chasing girls on SA, especially in big time college towns? Just something to think about.

You sound kind of spiteful! I am not a millenial but BTC is the real deal! It will not crash and is the future. I will bet you any amount of money that it hits 100 k very soon.

Let the young guys do whatever they want. If they have the money bang all the SB's you want.

College athletes are not paying for pussy. Guys in their 20's who are in The top 10% are not paying for Pussy.

Young guys candle hat they want but if my 20 year old son came to me and said I am going to get on SA and pay for pussy I would probably be against it. I think it can make you lazy and you have to learn how to hunt. You have to smash a good amount of girls in the wild and transition to this when you're older. You will never develop game by ducking SB's for money!

[Pau Ford]

She's not a scam. She's been on SA for a while and has been discussed on the board over the summer. This is just her latest of many profiles she's had. Pics are her she doesn't live up to them in person. She's basically a pro, or at least a very high volume SA type that sees pretty much anyone who will give her 400 and be happy with an all covered and very rushed escort like time.

Messaged with her and moved quickly to texting. English was broken with weird grammar and when I asked for a specific pic to prove she was real (holding up a paper with my name written on it), she got pissed and called me a detective (https://members.seeking.com/member/b...5-921aeeef6f47.

[Chiguyxxx]

Messaged with her and moved quickly to texting. English was broken with weird grammar and when I asked for a specific pic to prove she was real (holding up a paper with my name written on it), she got pissed and called me a detective (https://members.seeking.com/member/b...5-921aeeef6f47.

I got a girl I'm talking to that I feel the same way. Weird texts. I'm going to video chat were her tonight to be sure she's the same person as in the ad.