Arrangement Reports

[Piper2005]

She has been around for a while. Pics are accurate. When I saw her, insisted on CFS, but BBBJ. It was average. Biggest problem is that she can be flaky and ghost. Tried to meet up with her 2 other times, ghosted me both times so I stopped trying.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...5-98edad0c1664

A downtown Chicago girl. Any info would be helpful.

[Donger999]

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...5-98edad0c1664

A downtown Chicago girl. Any info would be helpful.

[Freakspead]

That's basically it. Feel like I could write a book and run out of ink.

I used to blog about my experience on SA. So many memories. I have to say I've met people on Seeking that I would not normally meet in my regular circles. I enjoy that about the whole thing.

On average it takes me about a month of Seeking access to find my next SB. Haven't had to do that for a while now with my current SB (or two!

Not going to lie Its always fun to explore every so often and test the market. See what's out there.

[Freakspead]

PREACH sir! Preach!

I did a test recently comparing premium vs. Diamond. My theory walking into it is that Seeking controls who sees your messages. You might message 100 people on Premium vs. Diamond, but Diamond has a better response rate because Seeking manipulates the messages to show up. There are so many times, my messages will go unread. Could definitely be the volume of people reaching out to a girl. But I had a theory.

The results were interesting. I didn't get a higher response rate to my messages. I got a larger number of girls reaching out to my profile and Liking it. But like so many have pointed out, those were fake profiles or people from Venezuela or Colombia etc. So, you get more attention, but the attention isn't perhaps the attention that leads any where.

This test was done with my basic profile. Where I had no public profile pic, but I had a handful of private pics.

Then I adjusted another variable. I had a full length pic of me. With some pixelating to maintain privacy. Once I made this change. Without Diamond access. Responses flooded in. I attribute this to the fact that women probably get messaged by tons of guys with no profile pic. This one at least gives them some confidence that I"m a warm body. Helps differentiate when they see 10 messages in their inbox, and only a couple have a profile pic showing. (I think the wording of my profile helps a bit as well.).

Couple the profile pic with a brief but personalized intro message, no sex talk in any of my communication. I think its worked great for me!

Also agree on keeping explicit talk to a minimum, at least until you're actually behind closed doors. If no other reason, the site seems to be very aggressive about suspending & banning these days. And asking a girl how much for a bunch of bb activities after a few minutes of texting isn't usually going to lead to her compromising on her donations. Like others and I suggested, its better to get her comfortable in public, then negotiate a good rate, and by then you should have a feel if she's adventurous enough for your specific needs, fetishes, etc. Girls are usually a lot more open in a bedroom naked and feeling good than they are in a random text exchange with someone pushing for every detail in advance. If they quote and negotiate a 'menu' right away then they're basically pros or semi pros. Not the worst thing in the world as it can sometimes speed up the process, but then you're not getting the girl next door image.

[JohnConeston]

Great post and definitely some good additional points.

I totally agree about the photos. Perfectly posed, processed, high quality photos in exotic locations scream fake to me. You wouldn't think a girl who had a recent photo shoot in a Vegas penthouse would now need $20 of gas money cashapped before she can meet, but I guess you never know. A mirror selfie in a messy bedroom is much more suggestive of a real person.

Also agree on keeping explicit talk to a minimum, at least until you're actually behind closed doors. If no other reason, the site seems to be very aggressive about suspending & banning these days. And asking a girl how much for a bunch of bb activities after a few minutes of texting isn't usually going to lead to her compromising on her donations. Like others and I suggested, its better to get her comfortable in public, then negotiate a good rate, and by then you should have a feel if she's adventurous enough for your specific needs, fetishes, etc. Girls are usually a lot more open in a bedroom naked and feeling good than they are in a random text exchange with someone pushing for every detail in advance. If they quote and negotiate a 'menu' right away then they're basically pros or semi pros. Not the worst thing in the world as it can sometimes speed up the process, but then you're not getting the girl next door image.

Agreed. I cannot stand the women who are just sooo fake. I might as well go for a cheap prostitute if that's the game they want to play. I am usually around 500 ppm. Because no offense to those who do but anything less than 300 I've learned are not women I want to risk fucking. I would rather have a real person I could genuinely help than just some ***** I wouldn't trust to tell me if she was clean or not. For me it's not just about fucking for me a nice connection goes a long way. So I prefer girls who have been recommended or suggested off here. At least then I know they aren't just a random psycho who will do whatever for a quick buck.

[FafaFooey]

Great post and definitely some good additional points.

I totally agree about the photos. Perfectly posed, processed, high quality photos in exotic locations scream fake to me. You wouldn't think a girl who had a recent photo shoot in a Vegas penthouse would now need $20 of gas money cashapped before she can meet, but I guess you never know. A mirror selfie in a messy bedroom is much more suggestive of a real person.

Also agree on keeping explicit talk to a minimum, at least until you're actually behind closed doors. If no other reason, the site seems to be very aggressive about suspending & banning these days. And asking a girl how much for a bunch of bb activities after a few minutes of texting isn't usually going to lead to her compromising on her donations. Like others and I suggested, its better to get her comfortable in public, then negotiate a good rate, and by then you should have a feel if she's adventurous enough for your specific needs, fetishes, etc. Girls are usually a lot more open in a bedroom naked and feeling good than they are in a random text exchange with someone pushing for every detail in advance. If they quote and negotiate a 'menu' right away then they're basically pros or semi pros. Not the worst thing in the world as it can sometimes speed up the process, but then you're not getting the girl next door image.

1. Yes I click into a profile based on the picture, the age, the location. But I'm also looking for pictures that are actual photographs. So many times pictures look like they are from photo shoots etc. Don't want to look at those. In a weird way you're looking for imperfection in their photos. Because that's the first key that they might be real.

4. When talking to them, I keep it civil. I ask them about what they want, I don't talk about sex, nothing with those acronyms. Hell I don't talk about sex even when I meet them in person. I'll talk about the important stuff like protection and such like that. But NEVER get explicit. I had one girl who initially asked for a crazy high allowance. When I told her that wouldn't work for me, she basically came down on her own accord. Because she enjoyed meeting me, thought I was normal etc.

[Jayp80]

Anyone have any luck with cuddle companions? I was looking at Chloecuddles93, but wondering if that site is a waste of time.

She's an escort and has an onlyfans. There was a bad report about here few months ago, mainly complaining about her attitude.

[Alchy505]

There are many fake profiles sending favorites from Colomnia, Venezuala and Phillipines. Completly ingnore those profiles.

I have gotten some out of state womem reach out and say hi and about a quarter of those have been real meets.

Most girls are looking for an allowance straight out the gates and I explicitly tell them I have no issues bellying up at a random restaurant or bar and meet someone. I have recent pictures on my profile, although I admit that I am no Brad Pitt I have had no issues meeting women whom either reach out to me or vice versa.

I aim for 35 and older and this has had more success for me but I am fallible, many profiles are beneath that age I am aiming for. I am in my forties so I am not looking to go skydiving or swim with sharks. I'm just a guy looking to get my dick wet at the end of the day, spend my weekends doing laundry, going to costco and excersize. But I have met with mostly women between 20-35, most 21-25 which is nice but schedules don't always work and they flake, after 2 flaking events, I just don't bother anymore with a profile and move on.

My rates are between 200-500 and 0 if it is a meet and greet but I do cover meal and drinks. But just a meet and greet don't tend to end there, most of the times we take it back to the hotel or their place. My hotel costare covered from points / loyalty membership from credit cards and traveling job that I have.

Oftenly, some will send a request for some cash out of nowhere and I ask them immediately if they are available, then sure, if not I say no. No honey, no money. I negotiate the donation depending on the quality of the girl and time spend together. Have had over nighters or even weekenders for 300-500.

I do not tend to bring them back to my. Place because that caused so many issues in the past for me where one showed up when I was already with someone else who is more of a regular.

I share my personal number only after having a few meets, could be after 1 or 5 meets, depends on the profile. The mature women are less likely to cause problems. I always use Burner app and pay the credits to have a number active. It is cheap, reliable and has a good back end. Googling your # could lead people scammers to your family members, address, work, and just all in all cause an issue. Luckily, I do not have a very actibe social media profiles: facebook, instagram, snapchat, etc. Only friends, work colleagues and family and set to as much privacy as possible. (Mom is still waiting on grandchildrens).

I like my life and want to keep it simple. SA, Bumble, Facebook Dating and Tinder results give me a wide access to women. On top of that, just going to a restaurant or bar is enough.

I will google image search a profile pictures and phone number and sometimes leads to other profiles or at worst an escort site. I do my research and take it from there but escorts aren't at the top of my list. They are strictly business and avoid them. Most of the times druggies or serious safety issues.

That's basically it. Feel like I could write a book and run out of ink.

[FruitNinja]

I thought this was a fascinating conversation and thought I would jump in too. And thought that FafaFooey brought up some good points.

But my approach to Seeking is simple:

1. Yes I click into a profile based on the picture, the age, the location. But I'm also looking for pictures that are actual photographs. So many times pictures look like they are from photo shoots etc. Don't want to look at those. In a weird way you're looking for imperfection in their photos. Because that's the first key that they might be real.

2. I read into their profile. More than anything, a picture might be intriguing, but if there is a blank profile, or a generic one liner. I'll refrain from reaching out. Rather have someone who has put down a few sentences. And I know there is a warm body on the other side. I read through the profile and see if there is a jumping off point. Something to talk about.

On photos. If I see a girl of 23 with photos in Dubai, Paris, or other higher end location I scroll by. Normally girls that young aren't traveling to exotic locations on their own dime. I'd guess that's a SD taking them there. If I see a girl sporting Louis Vuitton or Gucci, or sunning on a 140' yacht, same thing. I prefer the GND vibe. I'm not looking to spend my entire portfolio on a piece of azz.

[Platonico]

Anyone have any luck with cuddle companions? I was looking at Chloecuddles93, but wondering if that site is a waste of time.

The session booking process is unpleasant requires you to pay the house cut (40% ! Before you can even have the girl's number. You chat with the girl first on the platform and if you agree to meet, you pay the house. And all payment options are such that cannot be disputed and reversed. If the meet doesn't occur for whatever reason, funds will be used as "credit for the next session". They monitor the chat so no private contact info is exchanged prior to the payment. Seen one girl over there, took her offline of course. Was looking at few others, including Cleo but she must have been on something when I tried to inquire about here approx. Location, so I moved on.

But enough on that nonsense called cuddle companions. Want to get some action? Try cuddle comfort. The more you observe it the more you realize, its an escort site disgusting as a cuddle site (even if that was not the initial intention, it has become such). Be patient. Some of the girls there are true cuddlers. But quite a few are low key SW and women that use this place to get laid, get a nice meal, and make money doing so. They will opportunistically engage is extracurricular activities if they like the client or trust him enough and want to recruit him as a regular. My success rate there is more than 80%. Most of them will book the first session online (to "follow the session booking rules") but will have you book future sessions with them directly to stiff the house. Those who offer the type of cuddle we are looking for will eventually get reported and banned (sometimes by a client, sometimes by another cuddler) but until they do, they make some money, the house makes some money, and everyone plays pretend until the evidence no longer allows them to and they have to can the girl in order to attempt to maintain the platonic face. I will not mention names and will not give out names or numbers.

Be patient. Be nice, be funny and charming. Don't act thirsty, let the girl initiate, it may take 1-2 meets. If worth it. You will find some true GFE partners who will not fake it like a formal SW will, and for much less. Some of the most innocent looking creatures there will let you go hoby buchanon on them I shit you not. Yes I have two dom / sub partners off of there as well. One of them is a solid "9". You're everyday girl that you will never suspect. Daytime job, regular life, clean, no pimp, no drugs.

Good luck.

[Freakspead]

I thought this was a fascinating conversation and thought I would jump in too. And thought that FafaFooey brought up some good points.

But my approach to Seeking is simple:

1. Yes I click into a profile based on the picture, the age, the location. But I'm also looking for pictures that are actual photographs. So many times pictures look like they are from photo shoots etc. Don't want to look at those. In a weird way you're looking for imperfection in their photos. Because that's the first key that they might be real.

2. I read into their profile. More than anything, a picture might be intriguing, but if there is a blank profile, or a generic one liner. I'll refrain from reaching out. Rather have someone who has put down a few sentences. And I know there is a warm body on the other side. I read through the profile and see if there is a jumping off point. Something to talk about.

3. While my message might have "copy / pasted" elements in it, things like. Frame your message to them so it looks like you're talking to them. Look for what resonates from their profile.

4. When talking to them, I keep it civil. I ask them about what they want, I don't talk about sex, nothing with those acronyms. Hell I don't talk about sex even when I meet them in person. I'll talk about the important stuff like protection and such like that. But NEVER get explicit. I had one girl who initially asked for a crazy high allowance. When I told her that wouldn't work for me, she basically came down on her own accord. Because she enjoyed meeting me, thought I was normal etc.

5. Stick to what you want - I'm not going over 350 for an allowance. I had one girl I met, we had great conversation - she initially wanted $2K a month. Came down to $500 per meet. I was willing to come up to $400 for her. But when she wouldn't budge, neither did I!

Let me ask you all this:

Are some of you only on SA for the sex and could honestly care less about the women? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to treat them like shit by hitting it and quitting it. I fully intend to do my best to treat them with respect. But there are women here with paragraph after paragraph on their personality and intellect, how they want to be treated, how the man should take them golfing, horsebacking, vacations, the moon, etc.

Those profiles, which I'm referring to hot girls only, are intimidating and it's clearly obvious in my situation that I'm not their expectation. Do most of you reach out anyways with only allowance in mind, and not her fantasy?

I've had SA success regardless as money does talk and usually get at least a couple of visits with the woman until it's no longer financially viable for me, meaning I block, ghost, or deactivate.

Anyone here just have a basic income job and not the 6 figure income, or is it just me?

[NJohnston]

A few of them might actually be buying the site's new branding where it makes itself out to be a high end dating site. But most of them have either had their expectations set by some social media star SBs who constantly brag about what they extract from rich men, or are trying to weed out low ballers and one offs, which I kind of don't blame them for. It's a hard wake up call for many of the girls when they join expecting to be offered sunset cruises with George Clooney and are only being offered nooners in a cheap motel with George Costanza!

Best thing is to know your own parameters and just be up front. I have limited times and locations that work for me, and a definite cap on what a single sexual experience is worth. I can honestly tell the girls that I enjoy repeating with them if the experience is good, so there's usually a good response from prospects who are willing to do ppm for a fair price. But if its clear after a few messages that logistics or funding expectations aren't a match, I move on quickly. I think blocking, etc is juvenile, but if they feel the need to lash out or lecture about their 'worth' I don't hesitate to make further contact impossible.

But I wouldn't be intimidated and try to do a meet and greet with anyone you're on the fence about. If you can disarm a girl in person with a sense of humor and being non threatening you'll be surprised how quickly some are willing to negotiate down from their initial expectations.

This is an excellent post. Engaging and personality go along way. Of course you have to back that up with $$$ but still, you can more easily negotiate when you have that connection.

[BestDjInOhio]

Bad comms.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...1-df57f466d5d9

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Bad comms the first time and so I deleted her and then somehow we ended up talking again, and she gave me her number again, and then the same thing happened.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...7-905a3b09dd94

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She will google search your phone number.

Then troll you and call you names smh, waste of time and a game player.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...c-08a4f071bc47

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Tries to sell pics right off the bat, that got her blocked.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...c-53e59be31af8

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Time waster.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...d-ce91b76f2e42

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Time waster.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...5-c3310f31bf4a

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Another time waster.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...5-76fcbd4bd71a

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Time waster.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...5-ea5dc82af695

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Time waster.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...d-826d8a3d8659

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Area code scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...b-30142335cae8

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Doesn't really sound fun so I stopped comms.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...2-d1c89662cfb6

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Will ask for 6 one person talked her down to 4 she is dtf, doesn't seem motivated sexually though so I passed.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...5-6060f1bdc8c2

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Expects money to meet and greet. Pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...2-43d283e2a4b0

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Bad comms.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...b-de28e68082a2

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Scammer. Out of state area code but Had an iPhone so it threw me off. But then it was obvious by her VERY broken English and dialect.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...0-025a0da25e0a

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Like her headline says: loves playing games apparently. She claims that she wanted to meet up right away Then She gave me a weird phone number, and then no reply was ever received but yet she's still online sending messages.

Finally messages back the next day to setup a meet then she wants gas money. Blocked her after that.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...0-6e520e84352c

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Scammer using someone else's pics. I had another girl message me with the same pics.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...3-10ae8d8b73aa

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Bad comms.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...1-d0d87fe1425f

[FafaFooey]

A few of them might actually be buying the site's new branding where it makes itself out to be a high end dating site. But most of them have either had their expectations set by some social media star SBs who constantly brag about what they extract from rich men, or are trying to weed out low ballers and one offs, which I kind of don't blame them for. It's a hard wake up call for many of the girls when they join expecting to be offered sunset cruises with George Clooney and are only being offered nooners in a cheap motel with George Costanza!

Best thing is to know your own parameters and just be up front. I have limited times and locations that work for me, and a definite cap on what a single sexual experience is worth. I can honestly tell the girls that I enjoy repeating with them if the experience is good, so there's usually a good response from prospects who are willing to do ppm for a fair price. But if its clear after a few messages that logistics or funding expectations aren't a match, I move on quickly. I think blocking, etc is juvenile, but if they feel the need to lash out or lecture about their 'worth' I don't hesitate to make further contact impossible.

But I wouldn't be intimidated and try to do a meet and greet with anyone you're on the fence about. If you can disarm a girl in person with a sense of humor and being non threatening you'll be surprised how quickly some are willing to negotiate down from their initial expectations.

Let me ask you all this:

Are some of you only on SA for the sex and could honestly care less about the women? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to treat them like shit by hitting it and quitting it. I fully intend to do my best to treat them with respect. But there are women here with paragraph after paragraph on their personality and intellect, how they want to be treated, how the man should take them golfing, horsebacking, vacations, the moon, etc.

Those profiles, which I'm referring to hot girls only, are intimidating and it's clearly obvious in my situation that I'm not their expectation. Do most of you reach out anyways with only allowance in mind, and not her fantasy?

I've had SA success regardless as money does talk and usually get at least a couple of visits with the woman until it's no longer financially viable for me, meaning I block, ghost, or deactivate.

Anyone here just have a basic income job and not the 6 figure income, or is it just me?

[Pau Ford]

Don't pay a lot of attention to what women write in their profiles. Those who talk about how refined and smart they are wouldn't be selling their pussy to the highest bidder if they really were. Those seeking elaborate jet set lifestyles. She's not really interested in going away on vacation with you. These women are just weeding out the average joes. Thats not my type at all. Expensive pussy doesn't mean better more exclusive pussy.

You are by no means the only guy on SA who's budget is very limited. Ask any girl and she'll tell you about the prevalence of low ballers on the site. Guys who want multiple rounds of BBFS and her to host for $200 ppm or will share your "knowledge and mentorship" in lieu of any ppm at all. There's more of these than legit guys.

But your fishing in a pond that is very, very small and shrinking by the day. Even fat / ugly / old chicks are looking for $600 min.

Let me ask you all this:

Are some of you only on SA for the sex and could honestly care less about the women? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to treat them like shit by hitting it and quitting it. I fully intend to do my best to treat them with respect. But there are women here with paragraph after paragraph on their personality and intellect, how they want to be treated, how the man should take them golfing, horsebacking, vacations, the moon, etc.

Those profiles, which I'm referring to hot girls only, are intimidating and it's clearly obvious in my situation that I'm not their expectation. Do most of you reach out anyways with only allowance in mind, and not her fantasy?

I've had SA success regardless as money does talk and usually get at least a couple of visits with the woman until it's no longer financially viable for me, meaning I block, ghost, or deactivate.

Anyone here just have a basic income job and not the 6 figure income, or is it just me?