Men's Health

[SpoodrikBrad1]

Many of these supplements aren't supported by the medical literature (double blind studies), quite simply. At best, there is only minimal anecdotal evidence. Additionally, the chemical constituents that make up these supplements may even be harmful or full of impurities.

[SpoodrikBrad1]

I agree wholeheartedly with what C-kid just posted. No need for pills or supplements if you treat your body right. I personally stay away from pills / supplements. After all, if they aren't simply placebo reactions (that aren't sustainable), they're also not without aide effects (maybe even long term ones we weren't yet aware of). I myself, eat right, exercise regular (spend at least an hour or two in the gym daily). I'd say this has more effect in sexual performance than any chemical or substance!

[Cosmic Kid]

Hey, I need 2 try that. When I drink 2 much I no can cum no matter how long the GILF finger me. Does arginine work if I drink beer or hards?

I don't know, since I don't drink alcohol, and because I haven't run across any online 411 relating to your question. I'll bet that info is available but I simply haven't made an attempt to hunt it down. However, since you resurrected that old post of mine about L-arginine, I will comment on my general mindset these days concerning taking stuff to boost sexual performance. First, about arginine: When I was first taking it, I was like, yeah, amazing; it DID give me an erection, but not necessarily the feeling to go with it! Seriously, I remember having this bizarre situation where I'm fucking a provider and literally having to look down to see if my dick was hard! Means, even though I WAS staying good and hard, I wasn't feeling the pleasure of it! Then what was worse, since arginine did at least keep me hard, I'd expect it to allow me to perform the next time. So I'd gulp down some arginine prior to a subsequent sex encounter, but in the room I couldn't even get an erection at all! Talk about a major bummer. I'm honestly clueless as to why the stuff left me without the libido factor or why it was undependable, didn't kick in each and every time I needed an erection. But suffice it to say, I quit messing with L-arginine long time ago already. And second point I want to make: I've come to believe and be convinced the best way to be virile and able to perform on demand with a woman is to have your entire body functioning at top shape. I also suspect taking ANYTHING for sex, I don't give a fuck what it is, amino acids like arginine, or herbs like ginseng or the famous blue pill, whatever; trying to give your sex machinery a kick in the ass like this, even including taking supplemental testosterone, all any of that shit is going to do long-term is throw your body's vitality and balance out of its true power; and sooner or later you going to pay big time because the situation will sneak around behind you and bite your ass to the effect you won't be able to get hard anymore at all! IMHO. So, what I'm personally doing now; what I've been doing for some time in fact, is studying what it means to live at peak performance; and I've been using myself as my own lab-rat guinea-pig to figure this shit out. But poisons like alcohol and sugar, simple carbs, etc; for me in my life those are ancient history. Just my 2 cents, FWIW. And, if I do manage to learn anything interesting from my garage-style experimentation on myself, I'll probably come back on this blog and share.

[Lknfrpssy]

Wow! That's fascinating detailed info from Mayo Clinic on arginine dosages for numerous concerns. In my own searches on arginine I hadn't come across that particular page. Also, what you say about taking free-form rather than pills makes a lot of sense. I started taking arginine tablets. The company claims they're time-release, and I figured this would be more dependable than a slug of loose arginine powder. But I hadn't considered the problem that is known to occur with a lot of different kinds of tablets, how do I know they are actually breaking down in my gut and being properly metabolized? Good point and thanks for bringing it up. Sounds like I need to stick with the free form version. I suppose, to keep the stuff firing in my system, I could even like drink 2 or 3 grams powder mixed in water just when entering the AMP room, and then 2 or 3 more grams at the 30 minute mark, to keep the equipment operating! Easy enough to carry with, in little one-ounce nalgene bottles. The one issue that continues to bug me though, which I'm not clear on, is, if I just need the arginine for sex encounters, which may only happen like once or twice a week, then what is the value or reason for consuming large quantities of arginine on a daily basis? Or is this even necessary? I mean, Mayo Clinic said, I think it was 5 grams daily for six weeks for ED. I dunno, maybe I need to stop trying to figure this out and just do it and see what happens!

I once took 4 grans if l-arginine / l-lysine. My BP shot up to 180.

[TomAssCan9]

Wow! That's fascinating detailed info from Mayo Clinic on arginine dosages for numerous concerns. In my own searches on arginine I hadn't come across that particular page. Also, what you say about taking free-form rather than pills makes a lot of sense. I started taking arginine tablets. The company claims they're time-release, and I figured this would be more dependable than a slug of loose arginine powder. But I hadn't considered the problem that is known to occur with a lot of different kinds of tablets, how do I know they are actually breaking down in my gut and being properly metabolized? Good point and thanks for bringing it up. Sounds like I need to stick with the free form version. I suppose, to keep the stuff firing in my system, I could even like drink 2 or 3 grams powder mixed in water just when entering the AMP room, and then 2 or 3 more grams at the 30 minute mark, to keep the equipment operating! Easy enough to carry with, in little one-ounce nalgene bottles. The one issue that continues to bug me though, which I'm not clear on, is, if I just need the arginine for sex encounters, which may only happen like once or twice a week, then what is the value or reason for consuming large quantities of arginine on a daily basis? Or is this even necessary? I mean, Mayo Clinic said, I think it was 5 grams daily for six weeks for ED. I dunno, maybe I need to stop trying to figure this out and just do it and see what happens!

Hey, I need 2 try that. When I drink 2 much I no can cum no matter how long the GILF finger me. Does arginine work if I drink beer or hards?

[ReyDelacarne]

I think ginseng is good for boosting immune system and circulation which will help with men's department. FYI, Adderall or SSRI work great for delaying an ejaculation. But then Adderall causes slight ED so you may want to take Adderall with ginseng. If SSRI, I recommend low dose as the medicine is for depression and numbs you-both happiness and sadness. Any women could use some friction and cowgirl position. 😘.

Happy marriage!

Are those prescription meds? Shhhhh.

[TomAssCan9]

Thanks for the detailed response and moving my question to a more appropriate thread. Yeah, the kid thing is great, I don't feel ready, but who ever is right? Thanks for the kind words, it's going to be crazy for sure.

I think we're similar in alot of ways, I'm very addicted to the sexual variety and newness, but I don't care for the "chase" or keeping female company just to talk, it's exhausting to me personally. I actually prefer to be alone most of the time unless with friends, wifey or family. I'm surprised I've even had as many girlfriends as I did, but looking back I was always forced, pressured or tricked into dating them LOL. I guess I've always been the type of guy women want to get involved with, I've been told it's because I'm "good looking" and "funny", but I don't really see myself that way, I'm very critical of myself. I see myself as a piece of crap like everyone else who just got lucky of having the ability to attract female attention, just a normal guy trying to live in the end.

So that's why the KB thing isn't for me, my best friend absolutely loves them, but he said was never a ladies man or got attention and was always rejected by the girls he liked when we were growing up so it's understandable why he craves that feeling of being accepted. Seems like how someone grew up in school stays with you your whole life. I hate and don't care about being accepted and fight against the idea, so I guess that's why we both get along. BUT I'll visit a KB or VB, sometimes a JB (fuckin expensive) every now and then just for my best buddy's sake though..

You sound like me. Everything you said is me. I trip out. I no like KB and VB2! But I go because my good friend like. I no crave women attention because I get enough. My friend got rejected and school so he liked the KB and VB. I just go because I like 2 sing. I no despacito 4 attention fro women 2. I only like singing and get high. Escape reality. If I go KB I like going to the spa after 2 fuck MILF or GILF.

[KFish]

I meant nitric oxide, but yeah I need a boost if it's not my SO.

I think ginseng is good for boosting immune system and circulation which will help with men's department. FYI, Adderall or SSRI work great for delaying an ejaculation. But then Adderall causes slight ED so you may want to take Adderall with ginseng. If SSRI, I recommend low dose as the medicine is for depression and numbs you-both happiness and sadness. Any women could use some friction and cowgirl position. 😘.

Happy marriage!

[LoveAddict444]

Thanks for the detailed response and moving my question to a more appropriate thread. Yeah, the kid thing is great, I don't feel ready, but who ever is right? Thanks for the kind words, it's going to be crazy for sure.

I think we're similar in alot of ways, I'm very addicted to the sexual variety and newness, but I don't care for the "chase" or keeping female company just to talk, it's exhausting to me personally. I actually prefer to be alone most of the time unless with friends, wifey or family. I'm surprised I've even had as many girlfriends as I did, but looking back I was always forced, pressured or tricked into dating them LOL. I guess I've always been the type of guy women want to get involved with, I've been told it's because I'm "good looking" and "funny", but I don't really see myself that way, I'm very critical of myself. I see myself as a piece of crap like everyone else who just got lucky of having the ability to attract female attention, just a normal guy trying to live in the end.

So that's why the KB thing isn't for me, my best friend absolutely loves them, but he said was never a ladies man or got attention and was always rejected by the girls he liked when we were growing up so it's understandable why he craves that feeling of being accepted. Seems like how someone grew up in school stays with you your whole life. I hate and don't care about being accepted and fight against the idea, so I guess that's why we both get along. BUT I'll visit a KB or VB, sometimes a JB (fuckin expensive) every now and then just for my best buddy's sake though.

I'm not going to lie and pretend I'm the nicest guy, but I mostly see providers as service people, human beings of course, but still service people. I have no romantic or emotional need or attachment to them, just an overpowering need to experience physical pleasure using them. I guess there's a part of me that sees some women as just pieces of meat for pleasure and a little distraction / amusement, but I'm not angry or pissed off or anything LOL. I don't seek anything further than that, even though I seem superficially "entertaining" or "funny" on the outside to some girls, I'm really just saying what she wants (or needs) to hear to get in her panty LOL. Ok, I better stop before people think I'm some sociopathic killer, no hope asshole or something haha. I'm basically the type of guy women love to complain about and their current boyfriends hate.

I think I chose the wrong username then, I should probably actually be sexaddict444 than loveaddict444, but I thought it sounded too rough. I looked up "agape" like you said and I think that sounds about right, it's love, but a more duty / partnership and not so much passionate / romantic love with my wife.

I just feel like I need to experience and "release" with lots of different bodies and personalities all the time. I'll admit I'm greedy, I want it all, but I also don't want to ruin my marriage by doing it with "civilians". I'm basically a compulsive cheater / womanizer who is trying to manage it with mongering.

Thanks for the psychoanalysis and sorry if I made the whole damn thing about myself, I think I should probably go to therapy one day too.

To answer your questions about budgets. I would figure to spend $2,000 per month. Not a double-blind study mind you, but I've spoken to a few KBGs about expectations of being a girlfriend, and about $500/ week in bar tabs or outside spending money was the rough consensus. KBGs expect to be taken care of in some shape or fashion. This is the minimum. And compared to Japan and Korea, this is super cheap. This is based upon seeing one girl exclusively. And it doesn't necessarily correlate to how many oofs you get.

See my post #20059 in the Korean Bar Reports thread for my thoughts on mongering as a married guy.

But to answer your specific questions, I can only speak for myself and TEHO and YMMV. I've been married for over 19 years (same woman), I've got 3 kids, and the oldest just graduated HS. Congrats on your expected newborn, dude. Enjoy it. Savor it. Especially the newborn smell. Nothing like it. You blink you eyes and they're an adult.

The first thing I want to say is I'm not exactly happy being a monger. I'm addicted and I wouldn't recommend this lifestyle if you have the willpower to avoid it. I'm actually in therapy and continue to pray for release from this affliction. I know it is not right, but I am weak. It is fun, but is ultimately unfulfilling.

I do love my wife. I love my kids. Greeks called it "Agape" love. I have frequent sex with my wife. Usually a couple of times a week.

So why do I go to KBs?

It's not sex. It's not love. It's the sheer dopamine thrill that draws me to KBs. It's the infatuation of meeting and getting to know that beautiful sexy woman who caught my eye. And the rapture climaxes with sex, but it is not really about the physical act of sex per se. It is the intimate exploration and discovery of her body that provides the thrill. Now I hear how she moans and squeals. Now I taste her scent and flavor. Now I am literally inside her. Do I become fond of her? Yes. I can physically feel my chest swell and my heart race when I see her. It feels good. But truly, this is NOT love.

It's the newness that thrills me. So I really don't have intimate relationships with these women that last more than a few months at most. The KBs provide a way to meet new ones all the time. My eyes constantly wander. The AMPs don't do it for me. The thrill comes with the pursuit and chase and knowledge that she can always refuse if she doesn't want to.

So it doesn't really matter to me that she is actually good in bed, or whether she's loyal, attractive, or takes care of me. My wife is and does. I just need variety. Not counting AMPs, I've had sex with 29 different women in the bars over the past few years. 12 Vietnamese, 7 Korean, 4 Filipina, 3 hapa / mixed, 1 Chinese, 1 Thai, 1 Haole. Mostly in the private rooms. Only 3 or 4 takeout (the ones I've seen more than once). Honestly, the VBs are more like AMPs so they shouldn't count. Not much chase there for FS. (But there is thrill and chase to get it BBFS with a VBG. That's usuallly not that easy.).

[Glogauer]

Thanks for the responses guys. I'm going to try work it into my budget better, or maybe just take a long hiatus until I'm in a wealthier position, asking because we have a kid on the way and all that, money going to be a little less, but still comfortable.

Also to all the long-timers, did getting into this hobby after a while ruin regular women for you? Before I met the wifey (Japanese) I was already mongering, dating & hooking up where I could, whenever I felt like I wanted the female companionship, which is rare. I don't really need / like female companionship most of the time, I'm surrounded by fucking women in my family, and I meet women all the time, but I just like oof without commitment LOL. That was my lifestyle until I met my wife, who is a regular girl, parents from Japan, grew up here partially, and not even anywhere near related to our "world", let's just say our relationship is more of an emotional connection and partnership than physical.

I mean the physical ain't horrible, but I've never ever been "done" by my wife or a regular chick from the street / club / dating as good or the same way as I have been by a high quality provider, I'm talking just pure physical skill, foreplay, intensity and everything. It's even worse because generally Asian is my type and that's the majority of clean, accessible, cheap, safe providers.

What's everyone's experience after being in this world a long time and being with so many providers? Especially the married or non-single guys. Do you notice your love emotions getting more and more separated from your sexual emotions? Almost like whether your woman is good or not in bed doesn't even matter as long as she's loyal / nice / attractive / takes care of you etc?

To answer your questions about budgets. I would figure to spend $2,000 per month. Not a double-blind study mind you, but I've spoken to a few KBGs about expectations of being a girlfriend, and about $500/ week in bar tabs or outside spending money was the rough consensus. KBGs expect to be taken care of in some shape or fashion. This is the minimum. And compared to Japan and Korea, this is super cheap. This is based upon seeing one girl exclusively. And it doesn't necessarily correlate to how many oofs you get.

See my post #20059 in the Korean Bar Reports thread for my thoughts on mongering as a married guy.

But to answer your specific questions, I can only speak for myself and TEHO and YMMV. I've been married for over 19 years (same woman), I've got 3 kids, and the oldest just graduated HS. Congrats on your expected newborn, dude. Enjoy it. Savor it. Especially the newborn smell. Nothing like it. You blink you eyes and they're an adult.

The first thing I want to say is I'm not exactly happy being a monger. I'm addicted and I wouldn't recommend this lifestyle if you have the willpower to avoid it. I'm actually in therapy and continue to pray for release from this affliction. I know it is not right, but I am weak. It is fun, but is ultimately unfulfilling.

I do love my wife. I love my kids. Greeks called it "Agape" love. I have frequent sex with my wife. Usually a couple of times a week.

So why do I go to KBs?

It's not sex. It's not love. It's the sheer dopamine thrill that draws me to KBs. It's the infatuation of meeting and getting to know that beautiful sexy woman who caught my eye. And the rapture climaxes with sex, but it is not really about the physical act of sex per se. It is the intimate exploration and discovery of her body that provides the thrill. Now I hear how she moans and squeals. Now I taste her scent and flavor. Now I am literally inside her. Do I become fond of her? Yes. I can physically feel my chest swell and my heart race when I see her. It feels good. But truly, this is NOT love.

It's the newness that thrills me. So I really don't have intimate relationships with these women that last more than a few months at most. The KBs provide a way to meet new ones all the time. My eyes constantly wander. The AMPs don't do it for me. The thrill comes with the pursuit and chase and knowledge that she can always refuse if she doesn't want to.

So it doesn't really matter to me that she is actually good in bed, or whether she's loyal, attractive, or takes care of me. My wife is and does. I just need variety. Not counting AMPs, I've had sex with 29 different women in the bars over the past few years. 12 Vietnamese, 7 Korean, 4 Filipina, 3 hapa / mixed, 1 Chinese, 1 Thai, 1 Haole. Mostly in the private rooms. Only 3 or 4 takeout (the ones I've seen more than once). Honestly, the VBs are more like AMPs so they shouldn't count. Not much chase there for FS. (But there is thrill and chase to get it BBFS with a VBG. That's usuallly not that easy.).

[ReyDelacarne]

Yup korean ginseng is good stuff.

I meant nitric oxide, but yeah I need a boost if it's not my SO.

[Drake678]

I was reading that Viagra raises nitric acid. Isn't that what Korean ginseng does?

Yup korean ginseng is good stuff.

[ReyDelacarne]

I was reading that Viagra raises nitric acid. Isn't that what Korean ginseng does?

[Drake678]

No middle man! Has anybody tried ordering stuff from this website? See pic.

[Lknfrpssy]

Does anyone have a preferred brand of testosterone booster off amazon? I tried prime but not sure if it did much. Shopping around for something new.

I've been using deer antler velvet. ZMA is also good but has some side effects like dizziness, nausea, etc.