Sugarbabies and Arrangements

[Ivellios01]

Gabby30003.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...8-6079e6bc3528

$600 PPM, astonished I was offering less.

FitMom23.

Won't meet unless she gets money for a sitter.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...c-ed1419e8a907

Nicolemarie5788.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...3-88cb0a0c0559

Comms were good until they dropped off.

Aleeann.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...9-c0e970796f4e

Seems DTF and is into some kinks but never has time to meet, kids, schedule.

Same experience with BraveGambler. Had comms offsite. She sent some pics, if that's actually her then she looks really good. Something didn't feel quite right though so I kinda let it go. Got her talked down to 300 but she wanted 100 for public meet. Kinda weird since I suggested a place by me and it's only 15 min from her. She was really pushy about me coming to her apartment which didn't sit right for me. Last thing I need is some guy jumping out the closet or something and getting rolled. Not saying that's what's going on here but it just felt off. If anyone does see her and she is legit, let us know please.

[SR7D1]

Gabby30003.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...8-6079e6bc3528

$600 PPM, astonished I was offering less.

FitMom23.

Won't meet unless she gets money for a sitter.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...c-ed1419e8a907

Nicolemarie5788.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...3-88cb0a0c0559

Comms were good until they dropped off.

Aleeann.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...9-c0e970796f4e

Seems DTF and is into some kinks but never has time to meet, kids, schedule.

PlutoLove.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...6-e0e9b6cad293

Met for dinner, really nice woman, can't get 2nd date. Must be me? LOL.

Jennibee123.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...f-f6fcda652e74

Drinks, DTF, need to align schedules.

SecretBaby.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...4-48f66d5a6e4d

Like the profile says, unhappy marriage, kids, school, drama, scheduling. Too many moving parts for me.

KayKay88.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...b-ba0292ca9208

Sent pics off site, heavy filters, seems a bit off to me, wrong vibe for me.

Cherokeebabe.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...3-ac1a43a4a02f

Off site comms, to much drama for me, scheduling issues. Maybe you will have better luck?

Deannajbanana.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...c-1c9562a5d0c4

Coffee, really cool chick but saw pics of BD and this will be a no go for me. Those of you that can get past that, I would recommend.

Kota.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...4-8d68556b6c0a

Can't get off the site in comms. Shame to because she is my type physically. Also she looks pro, but I can't confirm.

WarmHottie.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...9-d34fbbda8ea7

She is new to this, comms are good, schedule is rough, kids, work. Plus she is over an hr south of CLE.

WiseBeauty.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...e-abedae0fc480

Comms off site, looking for 600, won't go lower than 400. Decided not to move forward since others will develop for less than that.

KuterBabii.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...5-99b5afca6415

Comms off site, has experience in arrangements, won't send pics, says she is working out to loose weight. Give her a try, I lost interest.

BraveGambler.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...1-f81e67e0a046

She is all business, $100 to meet public or $400 straight to business. I did not pursue.

Mstm00.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...e-c279f62bc8b8

Comms off site, sent a few pics, too thick for me. Might work for you.

CharismaticPetite.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...c-6825d0ee427d

Just my type but can't get off the site with her.

AlluringDiva.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...a-ad9df5cb3e7b

Comms off site, sent a couple of pics, average / thick. Work in progress, will let you know how it goes. I know she can host for those of you that require that ability.

Stargirl111.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a-7abb2868680e

Might be fake, can't get off the site.

Ms. Sessa.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...8-0319a4ffd4e9

I thought she was discussed on here already but did a search and didn't come up with anything.

Just starting this. Will update as I go further.

Amalia.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...e-8ad0a8736f02

Comms off the site just begun. Will update as it moves along.

Iwalkittalkit.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...d-59ff8caa9b45

Looks like a hot mess and drama, but damn she is cute. Will let you know if it works, just started comms.

SultryMiss.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...f-e57f857b5b23

Just started, will update.

LovingLady.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...7-a5a2a24269a0

Looks fake, said Mansfield for her location.

[Clion]

I've been a little sick lately but this gives me the time to write this up so that other mongers can notice any red flags seen from any profiles you encounter on these arrangement sites since these sites are getting actively worse. Just a few things I've noticed. I try to keep any messages to any profiles I see on the site short and to the point to filter out a lot of bad eggs. I try not to block any profiles until I report them here so that people know whether or not they're scammers as well. Anyway, here are the tips I have to weed out who is real and who isn't:

1) It goes without saying, but when the first request on the site itself is something along the lines of "I can give you content for x amount" or "I need x amount so that I can get somewhere or get food, etc. Etc. ," my recommendation to people is to outright decline those requests or move on to someone more amiable immediately. In a lot of cases, these are scammers and fakers trying to sucker you into giving them a donation and may in some scenarios not even send you what they promised you. This isn't to say that everyone who makes these requests are fake people. There are a lot of real women on the site who play this game as well and try to sucker you into giving donations without even meeting. I've noticed those real ones in particular have a coyer approach in that they try to butter you up at first. My recommendation here is to also move on, as the juice usually isn't worth the squeeze 99% of the time. Don't send anything for any reason and be firm on that.

Very true 100% agree. Also one thing I have noticed is there are some positive reviews here saying this girl is legit and real. But when you reach out, they ask for money and play those games. I suspect they make fake profiles and post positive reviews for themselves. So be careful guys.

[TheEndlessEdge]

I've been a little sick lately but this gives me the time to write this up so that other mongers can notice any red flags seen from any profiles you encounter on these arrangement sites since these sites are getting actively worse. Just a few things I've noticed. I try to keep any messages to any profiles I see on the site short and to the point to filter out a lot of bad eggs. I try not to block any profiles until I report them here so that people know whether or not they're scammers as well. Anyway, here are the tips I have to weed out who is real and who isn't:

1) It goes without saying, but when the first request on the site itself is something along the lines of "I can give you content for x amount" or "I need x amount so that I can get somewhere or get food, etc. Etc. ," my recommendation to people is to outright decline those requests or move on to someone more amiable immediately. In a lot of cases, these are scammers and fakers trying to sucker you into giving them a donation and may in some scenarios not even send you what they promised you. This isn't to say that everyone who makes these requests are fake people. There are a lot of real women on the site who play this game as well and try to sucker you into giving donations without even meeting. I've noticed those real ones in particular have a coyer approach in that they try to butter you up at first. My recommendation here is to also move on, as the juice usually isn't worth the squeeze 99% of the time. Don't send anything for any reason and be firm on that.

2) There's been an increase in scammer profiles that try to move the conversation over to Whatsapp and Telegram when you give out your number or request to text. When you come across this, 99% of the time, these are always going to be scammers trying to illicit a donation out of you, but they're taking the time to move things off of the site to ensure that they aren't banned for mentioning it on the site. A good recommendation I was told by another monger is that if it moves off of the site, it's a good idea to take a screencap of their attempts to scam you and send them to the site when you report their profile for being a scam. Be careful when you do this though, as you don't want to have your own account suspended or banned in the process since sites like SA tend to not discriminate (be sure to explain in your report that you suspected them to be scammers and played along to get the proof). If the accounts in question try to make exchanges on the site, you don't really need screencaps since sites like SA can simply look up the message history of said conversation (which is why you need to be careful discussing things on the site on your end so you don't get hit with anything yourself).

3) Try to move conversations off of the site as quickly as you can, since you'll have a lot more freedom to discuss and negotiate things with profiles that are actually real. Be as concise and straightforward with what you're looking for. I've found that a lot of SBs tend to prefer the direct approach as well. It also allows you to know right off the bat whether or not they're interested in it and how to approach it (whether you have to do the longer game of dates or whether you can cut right to the chase). If you don't get a response, that is more or less the answer you're going to get at that time. Don't dwell on it too much and know that there is plenty of fish in the sea. You can always make a return play a month or two down the line if they're off of the site. I've had a 75% success rate with this, since a lot of the women appreciate that I didn't blow up their phones wondering why they disappeared. You never know when they'll do this, so it's best to have a rotation in play in case one flakes on you.

4) This might be the toughest part of the game nowadays: negotiating with real ones who have GPS. I mentioned in point 1 that one thing you want to do is avoid sending donations in advance for any reason and it's mainly because doing so will inflate their egos and create GPS. Just be as cordial as possible negotiating and play the game of attrition for a bit. If you don't see things moving in your favor, drop the conversation and move on. The best approach is to put out the donation offer so that the power play move is in your hands first. Usually that dictates which way things are going to go. Always remember to put forth boundaries / rules for the arrangement and make the point that this is how you want it to be.

5) If you've met someone and things become more familiar as you both become regulars to each other, remember one thing in that you can never let your guard down at any time. There are going to be days when you'll get randomly hit up for some donation for basic things like gas, food, etc. , and sometimes even the most ridiculous stuff. Again, never let your guard down and reiterate the rules / boundaries you put forth with the arrangement. This is usually the SB trying to squeeze as much as she can out of you so that she isn't obligated to get together as much, or to get extra donations outside of the arrangement you've made. I make it a point during the initial negotiating that I want this to be no strings attached and that outside of us meeting, I'm not obligated to do these things for her. Some take offense to it and others understand and stop doing it, but again, never let your guard down. You can't underestimate how easy it is for them to pull at our heart strings with a sob story. As men, we're naturally geared towards being providers, and you don't want to be saddled in with someone who wants something for nothing. Maintaining your stance shows them that you aren't a pushover. Some SBs won't like this, but it's their loss.

6) Understand that you're going to mess up at times, and don't be too hard on yourself. We've all been victims to failure here. It's all about adapting to things and learning from your previous mistakes. Just know that you don't want to keep repeating a mistake or make it a costly one. There are a lot of ungrateful SBs out there, and they'll use you for every lost drop like vampires. Just remember that you have to protect yourself first and foremost, and don't get too attached. Most of these SBs on the site are going to say that they only have eyes for you and that they aren't with any guy but you, etc. , but remember the reason why they're on the site in the first place; if they were loyal unicorns, they wouldn't be on the site to begin with.

7) Make sure you get a feel of them to see if they're real or not, and that they're actually the person you're talking to. If anything seems suspicious to you or if you have a feeling something is off, trust your instincts. Even if you're wrong, safety is the priority here. You don't want to meet in sketchy areas or anywhere you feel isn't on equal footing. Just be wary of your surroundings as well.

8) One easy way to tell you're dealing with a scammer on a site like SA is to check their most recent location. If it's any country outside of the USA But they say they're from Cleveland, Akron, etc. , consider it a red flag initially and move on. If I'm told outright by the SB that she's out of the country on vacation, I continue the conversation to see if it's actually legit, but if not, keep moving.

9) Another easy way to tell if you're dealing with a scammer is how they type things out. If it comes across as broken or confusing English while asking for a Telegram or Whatsapp, I keep it moving.

10) Lastly, this is something I've been noticing a lot lately. It seems like there are some profiles that are out of state or out of the city that say "Hey, I'm visiting family and I'm going to be in your area for a weekend. " 99% of the time, these are scammers / fakes trying to play a long con on you to have you send them donations. There are a few profiles like this that specifically say they're going to be in Parma for a week. They usually make the first move from my past experiences.

[TooManyLadies8]

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...c-dddeb420b554

Has anybody seen her? If so, your thoughts?

I've talked to her in the past. Totally flaked a couple times. Seemed to be a mix of mental health issues and maybe cold feet. Could be ok if it was just cold feet and she hadn't yet gone through with a meet yet. Sometimes they just chicken out until they finally jump in. Although, her excuses made zero sense and it was pretty shitty of her so not not for me.

[OldMonger55]

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...c-dddeb420b554

Has anybody seen her? If so, your thoughts?

[TheEndlessEdge]

1-Ruby Blues, https://members.seeking.com/member/6...c-e15512539224.

Saw her twice. No talk of money, though I sent her some anyways after. Probably the hottest woman and best time in the bedroom I've ever had. Wanted to see long term and the connection was there on both sides, but for no apparent reason went no comms for the last two weeks. Strong independent free spirit, who I think is just looking for a good time, but not the kind of woman who's necessarily cut out for this life style. Really hope I hear from her again, but somehow I doubt it. Anyone who gets to see her, be thankful and treat her right. I thought I did based on her response to everything but maybe it just wasn't good enough.

2-Abby, https://members.seeking.com/member/d...5-6bb4a58e76a2.

Saw her tonight. She drove from Cleveland to the Akron area through the storm. Honestly surprised she was real and showed, 100% the girl in the photos. Agreed on seeing her regularly until she decides otherwise. Claims she is a one guy at a time gal, so who knows if that's true or not. 300.

3-Sunshine girl, https://members.seeking.com/member/1...0-6ad83b891a64

Was supposed to get together last week, set up a time and price (300). She video chatted with me right before she was about to leave. Then next thing I know she's freaking because apparently some guy who used to stalk her lives like 2 miles away from me. Flaked and I haven't heard from her since.

4-Princess Succubus, https://members.seeking.com/member/2...6-80bf5c7258b8

Was working on her, she wanted 400 a meet. Informed me she just wrecked her car and wasn't mobile. I tried to negotiate down to 300 if I had to arrange / handle transportation and she ceased communication.

5-Kitty Kat, https://members.seeking.com/member/6...1-dbb688051429

Texted and agreed on a price (250). Then doesn't respond when it comes to actually scheduling. Tried twice and got no response. Figured she's either playing games or got a better offer.

6-youlovelitty, https://members.seeking.com/messages...0-f28a701c5334

Saw her at the end of December. Not mobile, had to pick her up but it was only a 15 min drive so I figured why not. Average looks and body, solid in the sack. 200. Reached out again and she claims to be back with her ex and unavailable at the moment. Nice girl but her life is a mess and she will absolutely tell you all about it unprompted.

7-PhoenixFighter, https://members.seeking.com/member/7...e-803d9fb1e1a6

Wants to sell content.

8-CoffeeQueen, https://members.seeking.com/member/c...f-62215ed56710

Chatted with her and got to texting. Asked for additional photos and I got some of a completely different chick who was huge. Claimed she used her friends pic for the profile. I asked to see her friend and almost immediately got a text from another number. Got some photos of the girl in the profile pic. Agreed to meet, then she hit me up for money in advance so I said I was no longer interested. I suspect I was talking to the same person on both numbers. My spidey sense said to just avoid.

9-Wisper, https://members.seeking.com/member/0...b-9ad567117bef

Claims to live downtown with a bunch of roommates and can't host. Can't drive due to a DUI. GPS for sure, hard negotiated to 300 even though I had to listen to how much money she makes as a traveling nurse and bartender. Yeah right, told her I'd want to do less if I have to pick her up or pay for an uber or hotel room. Haven't heard from her since and don't suspect I will.

I think it's two girls running the Coffeequeen account now. It's the original girl's (the one in the pic) girlfriend. Her pics are old and from when she wasn't as addicted to drugs like she is now. She used to be a decent time, but her body is pretty much destroyed and she's out of shape. I'd avoid.

[SR7D1]

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...e-a43ccf658f74

Would like paid for platonic meet and greet. Then expects $1 K PPM.

[Ivellios01]

Thanks for the updates!

Ruby has not been online since 1/04 so perhaps she dropped off the radar.

Abby What is her body like? Thick, slim, her pics are awful.

Youlovekitty is your messages.

CoffeeQueen has been reported on.

Abby's body is above average in a good way I'd say, with a great rack. Not slim or thick.

Didn't notice the link was my messages. It's alright, that number is my burner, but at least you can see the pics so you can find the profile.

[SR7D1]

1-Ruby Blues, https://members.seeking.com/member/6...c-e15512539224.

Saw her twice. No talk of money, though I sent her some anyways after. Probably the hottest woman and best time in the bedroom I've ever had. Wanted to see long term and the connection was there on both sides, but for no apparent reason went no comms for the last two weeks. Strong independent free spirit, who I think is just looking for a good time, but not the kind of woman who's necessarily cut out for this life style. Really hope I hear from her again, but somehow I doubt it. Anyone who gets to see her, be thankful and treat her right. I thought I did based on her response to everything but maybe it just wasn't good enough.

2-Abby, https://members.seeking.com/member/d...5-6bb4a58e76a2.

Saw her tonight. She drove from Cleveland to the Akron area through the storm. Honestly surprised she was real and showed, 100% the girl in the photos. Agreed on seeing her regularly until she decides otherwise. Claims she is a one guy at a time gal, so who knows if that's true or not. 300.

3-Sunshine girl, https://members.seeking.com/member/1...0-6ad83b891a64

Was supposed to get together last week, set up a time and price (300). She video chatted with me right before she was about to leave. Then next thing I know she's freaking because apparently some guy who used to stalk her lives like 2 miles away from me. Flaked and I haven't heard from her since.

4-Princess Succubus, https://members.seeking.com/member/2...6-80bf5c7258b8

Was working on her, she wanted 400 a meet. Informed me she just wrecked her car and wasn't mobile. I tried to negotiate down to 300 if I had to arrange / handle transportation and she ceased communication.

5-Kitty Kat, https://members.seeking.com/member/6...1-dbb688051429

Texted and agreed on a price (250). Then doesn't respond when it comes to actually scheduling. Tried twice and got no response. Figured she's either playing games or got a better offer.

6-youlovelitty, https://members.seeking.com/messages...0-f28a701c5334

Saw her at the end of December. Not mobile, had to pick her up but it was only a 15 min drive so I figured why not. Average looks and body, solid in the sack. 200. Reached out again and she claims to be back with her ex and unavailable at the moment. Nice girl but her life is a mess and she will absolutely tell you all about it unprompted.

7-PhoenixFighter, https://members.seeking.com/member/7...e-803d9fb1e1a6

Wants to sell content.

8-CoffeeQueen, https://members.seeking.com/member/c...f-62215ed56710

Chatted with her and got to texting. Asked for additional photos and I got some of a completely different chick who was huge. Claimed she used her friends pic for the profile. I asked to see her friend and almost immediately got a text from another number. Got some photos of the girl in the profile pic. Agreed to meet, then she hit me up for money in advance so I said I was no longer interested. I suspect I was talking to the same person on both numbers. My spidey sense said to just avoid.

9-Wisper, https://members.seeking.com/member/0...b-9ad567117bef

Claims to live downtown with a bunch of roommates and can't host. Can't drive due to a DUI. GPS for sure, hard negotiated to 300 even though I had to listen to how much money she makes as a traveling nurse and bartender. Yeah right, told her I'd want to do less if I have to pick her up or pay for an uber or hotel room. Haven't heard from her since and don't suspect I will.

Thanks for the updates!

Ruby has not been online since 1/04 so perhaps she dropped off the radar.

Abby What is her body like? Thick, slim, her pics are awful.

Youlovekitty is your messages.

CoffeeQueen has been reported on.

[Ivellios01]

1-Ruby Blues, https://members.seeking.com/member/6...c-e15512539224.

Saw her twice. No talk of money, though I sent her some anyways after. Probably the hottest woman and best time in the bedroom I've ever had. Wanted to see long term and the connection was there on both sides, but for no apparent reason went no comms for the last two weeks. Strong independent free spirit, who I think is just looking for a good time, but not the kind of woman who's necessarily cut out for this life style. Really hope I hear from her again, but somehow I doubt it. Anyone who gets to see her, be thankful and treat her right. I thought I did based on her response to everything but maybe it just wasn't good enough.

2-Abby, https://members.seeking.com/member/d...5-6bb4a58e76a2.

Saw her tonight. She drove from Cleveland to the Akron area through the storm. Honestly surprised she was real and showed, 100% the girl in the photos. Agreed on seeing her regularly until she decides otherwise. Claims she is a one guy at a time gal, so who knows if that's true or not. 300.

3-Sunshine girl, https://members.seeking.com/member/1...0-6ad83b891a64

Was supposed to get together last week, set up a time and price (300). She video chatted with me right before she was about to leave. Then next thing I know she's freaking because apparently some guy who used to stalk her lives like 2 miles away from me. Flaked and I haven't heard from her since.

4-Princess Succubus, https://members.seeking.com/member/2...6-80bf5c7258b8

Was working on her, she wanted 400 a meet. Informed me she just wrecked her car and wasn't mobile. I tried to negotiate down to 300 if I had to arrange / handle transportation and she ceased communication.

5-Kitty Kat, https://members.seeking.com/member/6...1-dbb688051429

Texted and agreed on a price (250). Then doesn't respond when it comes to actually scheduling. Tried twice and got no response. Figured she's either playing games or got a better offer.

6-youlovelitty, https://members.seeking.com/messages...0-f28a701c5334

Saw her at the end of December. Not mobile, had to pick her up but it was only a 15 min drive so I figured why not. Average looks and body, solid in the sack. 200. Reached out again and she claims to be back with her ex and unavailable at the moment. Nice girl but her life is a mess and she will absolutely tell you all about it unprompted.

7-PhoenixFighter, https://members.seeking.com/member/7...e-803d9fb1e1a6

Wants to sell content.

8-CoffeeQueen, https://members.seeking.com/member/c...f-62215ed56710

Chatted with her and got to texting. Asked for additional photos and I got some of a completely different chick who was huge. Claimed she used her friends pic for the profile. I asked to see her friend and almost immediately got a text from another number. Got some photos of the girl in the profile pic. Agreed to meet, then she hit me up for money in advance so I said I was no longer interested. I suspect I was talking to the same person on both numbers. My spidey sense said to just avoid.

9-Wisper, https://members.seeking.com/member/0...b-9ad567117bef

Claims to live downtown with a bunch of roommates and can't host. Can't drive due to a DUI. GPS for sure, hard negotiated to 300 even though I had to listen to how much money she makes as a traveling nurse and bartender. Yeah right, told her I'd want to do less if I have to pick her up or pay for an uber or hotel room. Haven't heard from her since and don't suspect I will.

[Bikjik69]

I was chatting with this once recently and wants to meet with her and a friend for 1 k each. Unless they are going to do my laundry, dishes, shovel the snow and wash my car. Hell no!

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...a-9336bdbedb17

Some other dude said this is cashbaby. I blocked her because during negotiation she decided to prove to me that guys are actually paying what she is asking. She did that by firing off screen shots of some app that had guys profile pictures, amount and when they paid it, and their real names.

Do what you want but they don't care about keeping your information discreet.

[BDingas]

Her and her sister are scams. Pm me for details.

Also would like to know decided to sign back up.

[BDingas]

She has been reported on.

Used to go by cash baby.

[SR7D1]

I was chatting with this once recently and wants to meet with her and a friend for 1 k each. Unless they are going to do my laundry, dishes, shovel the snow and wash my car. Hell no!

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...a-9336bdbedb17

She has been reported on.