Mighty Mick's Boxing Club

[Shampoo55]

Actually got the address from a stripper working at purple orchid+++ 3 when there and they were closed! Wasn't that hard, ain't afraid to do my own leg work!!

LOL. Then why did you bother posting here asking, if you already knew the answer?

Look, there are several ways you can use the site.

1) Similar to ASK. Ask and get answers, or.

2) Sharing info with others and using the rich history left by others. But that requires one use the advanced serach function.

The point is that if one shows up with their hand out all of the time, eventually people get tired of sharing their hard won intel. Site works bets when everyone contributes.

Also be aware that doing that one develops a rep here. Since a lot of good intel gets shared via PMs being a solid contributor to the reports section helps build that cred and helps other be willing to share info.

So yeah, getting one's knickers in a twist doesn't help. But hey there are always haters, that's what they do.

Away, so welcome and post some reports of your dates!

[JTerry26]

This is 100% not my personal kink, like I have zero interest in it, but this is very, very well said.

It also speaks well to the idea that consent, even in a paid sexual encounter, is not a contract signed in advanced that participants have to adhere to. It's active and open and subject to revocation.

This, exactly. I didn't get the sense she was acting in the role of my biological daughter. I got the sense she was playing the role of an innocent schoolgirl with daddy issues who wanted to please older men because her father didn't give her the love she craved. So she sought it elsewhere.

Beyond that, Luther, you've covered a lot of ground in your responses and, after my response here, I'm going to give you the last word because this is all I have left to say on the topic.

There's a whole subculture of Dom / sub kink which runs the gamut from being bound, ball-gagged, hooded, strapped to an X-cross and teased / flogged / whipped / force-fucked (sometimes by a fucking machine that just. Won't. Stop.) at the Dom's whimsy, to scarves binding one's wrists, feather teasers and otherwise vanilla play with the addition of some light bondage.

All of it has one thing in common and that's the consent of the sub to be treated that way. Any experienced Dom knows to discuss his sub's limits with her beforehand and set not only a framework for the play that's going to ensue, but a safe word or safe gesture (in the event she's gagged, tied up or both) which, when engaged by the sub, immediately ends play.

It seems that your position in a prostitute / john transaction, that the prostitute is incapable of giving consent because of the implied power dynamic between the john, who's paying the prostitute.

My position is that she's an adult over the age of consent who chooses to engage in this transaction because this is, in fact, her kink. She is a true sex addict who's taking advantage of the societal "norm" that men are willing to pay women to have sex with them, so she can have her cake and eat it too. And even though she cannot control the skill level of the people who choose to engage her services, when she runs into an experienced Dom who can creatively walk the line between making her feel both helpless (to indulge the fantasy of being force-fucked to climax) and safe at the same time (so the feeling doesn't graduate to sheer terror, ruining the moment), then it's good for her, it's good for me and we're both getting what we want out of the experience.

I have experience in this lifestyle and have a good sense of when a sub is enjoying herself ("in sub-space") and when it's getting uncomfortable, awkward, or she's just accommodating me because she thinks I'll move on to something else she's interested in. I only engage in activities I've discussed with the provider before play starts (even if it's not a Dom / sub thing) and never surprise someone by doing something we didn't discuss because I lost control of myself in the moment or felt "she owed me".

It's clear nobody's going to change your mind, and that's your prerogative.

But you should at least be open to the fact that others see the situation differently than you do, and a difference of opinion doesn't make what they're doing "wrong".

[Admin2]

The things people tell themselves to make violence, underage sex, or incest role play acceptable. "She asked for it. " "She wanted it. " Geesh, did you really say that? Even as a hobby participant one can see there is zero consent by its nature, but that is probably a bit over your mental pay grade. How about there is certainly no consent for violence, underage sex, or invest. Since you want to play extremes logic and say no one cares about my so-called desire for missionary, I guess if she says "gouge out my eye" or "shoot me" or something, then alls fair game because she asked for it.

He says "She liked it. " You say "she asked / wanted / consented for it. " Back to my original post I return saying I see why providers say the things they say about hobbyists. Carry on.

The next time you bring that "there is no consent in commercial sex" bullshit to this forum. I do not give a fuck how long you have been here. Rape is rape, incest is incest, underage is underage and fucking role play is none of your fucking business as everybody is an adult and consenting.

I'm not bullshitting about this. A2 himself isn't above a little schoolgirl kink himself from time to time but I have zero interest in women that don't want to do it or are underage.

Go to as many #metoo rallies as you want but don't ever draw imaginary feminazi fucking lines between consent and rape on this forum again. If you think I'm bullshitting just do it. To all the guys who don't like him report it if he does so I can run his ass out. Rape is a horrible thing, as is fucking real little girls, role play is just a fucking game.

A2.

[LutherMahoney]

And I want to make sure I acknowledge your respectful and thoughtful reply. The consent position could be arguable, but that's not my main point. And one can even set aside "She asked for it" "she likes it" etc. My point isn't about the provider, it's about the hobbyist. There is nothing that I consider erotic or would stimulate me about choking a woman. There is nothing that would get me hard if I'm role playing I'm screwing an underage girl or child. There is nothing that makes me closer to cumming if I'm acting out an incest fantasy. Those things would make me soft, not get me harder and more aroused. If the thought of choking a woman, fucking a child, or boning your play daughter gets you harder or more excited (irrespective of what she wants), you are a sicko creep. That ain't no kink. And what I'm saying ain't rocket science.

Look, people will pretty much do anything for money or to survive. The pornstars are getting paid to do that shit. The provider is getting paid to do that. You are paying the pornstars and the provider to get your rocks off on that. So you’re the sicko in that bunch.

This, exactly. I didn't get the sense she was acting in the role of my biological daughter. I got the sense she was playing the role of an innocent schoolgirl with daddy issues who wanted to please older men because her father didn't give her the love she craved. So she sought it elsewhere.

Beyond that, Luther, you've covered a lot of ground in your responses and, after my response here, I'm going to give you the last word because this is all I have left to say on the topic.

There's a whole subculture of Dom / sub kink which runs the gamut from being bound, ball-gagged, hooded, strapped to an X-cross and teased / flogged / whipped / force-fucked (sometimes by a fucking machine that just. Won't. Stop.) at the Dom's whimsy, to scarves binding one's wrists, feather teasers and otherwise vanilla play with the addition of some light bondage.

All of it has one thing in common and that's the consent of the sub to be treated that way. Any experienced Dom knows to discuss his sub's limits with her beforehand and set not only a framework for the play that's going to ensue, but a safe word or safe gesture (in the event she's gagged, tied up or both) which, when engaged by the sub, immediately ends play.

It seems that your position in a prostitute / john transaction, that the prostitute is incapable of giving consent because of the implied power dynamic between the john, who's paying the prostitute.

My position is that she's an adult over the age of consent who chooses to engage in this transaction because this is, in fact, her kink. She is a true sex addict who's taking advantage of the societal "norm" that men are willing to pay women to have sex with them, so she can have her cake and eat it too. And even though she cannot control the skill level of the people who choose to engage her services, when she runs into an experienced Dom who can creatively walk the line between making her feel both helpless (to indulge the fantasy of being force-fucked to climax) and safe at the same time (so the feeling doesn't graduate to sheer terror, ruining the moment), then it's good for her, it's good for me and we're both getting what we want out of the experience.

I have experience in this lifestyle and have a good sense of when a sub is enjoying herself ("in sub-space") and when it's getting uncomfortable, awkward, or she's just accommodating me because she thinks I'll move on to something else she's interested in. I only engage in activities I've discussed with the provider before play starts (even if it's not a Dom / sub thing) and never surprise someone by doing something we didn't discuss because I lost control of myself in the moment or felt "she owed me".

It's clear nobody's going to change your mind, and that's your prerogative.

But you should at least be open to the fact that others see the situation differently than you do, and a difference of opinion doesn't make what they're doing "wrong".

[Jayke00]

Based on other mongers' experience I got the impression the Dom Daddy / little girl thing was her preference more than the the mongers'. Its a growing and popular kink with women and men in the last 10 years (if you want to blame someone then blame MindGeek who pushed alot of this via porn). Its not usually considered an incest or age play thing as often as its more of a flavor variant of dom / sub roleplay. "Taste" is subjective and really I don't see how judging someone for their private proclivities with a another consenting adult is productive here. If she negotiated the scene and everyone was participating of their own consent then where is the issue. It would be different if the reviewer was forcing you and your kids to watch them behave that way in public. No one cares that you seem to like missionary in the dark under the covers with your eyes closed doing a two pump chump to ecstasy and over paying so why judge them. You come off more like you are jealous. Most civilian normies would say anyone who engages in this hobby has no "taste". Its recreation and it doesn't sound like the dude hurt anybody during the mutually beneficial arrangement for both parties.

I find it weird to see this kind of criticism here of all places especially after such a detailed review of his experience. I might need to try and get some cialis and set up a date while she's still around. LOL.

This, exactly. I didn't get the sense she was acting in the role of my biological daughter. I got the sense she was playing the role of an innocent schoolgirl with daddy issues who wanted to please older men because her father didn't give her the love she craved. So she sought it elsewhere.

Beyond that, Luther, you've covered a lot of ground in your responses and, after my response here, I'm going to give you the last word because this is all I have left to say on the topic.

There's a whole subculture of Dom / sub kink which runs the gamut from being bound, ball-gagged, hooded, strapped to an X-cross and teased / flogged / whipped / force-fucked (sometimes by a fucking machine that just. Won't. Stop.) at the Dom's whimsy, to scarves binding one's wrists, feather teasers and otherwise vanilla play with the addition of some light bondage.

All of it has one thing in common and that's the consent of the sub to be treated that way. Any experienced Dom knows to discuss his sub's limits with her beforehand and set not only a framework for the play that's going to ensue, but a safe word or safe gesture (in the event she's gagged, tied up or both) which, when engaged by the sub, immediately ends play.

It seems that your position in a prostitute / john transaction, that the prostitute is incapable of giving consent because of the implied power dynamic between the john, who's paying the prostitute.

My position is that she's an adult over the age of consent who chooses to engage in this transaction because this is, in fact, her kink. She is a true sex addict who's taking advantage of the societal "norm" that men are willing to pay women to have sex with them, so she can have her cake and eat it too. And even though she cannot control the skill level of the people who choose to engage her services, when she runs into an experienced Dom who can creatively walk the line between making her feel both helpless (to indulge the fantasy of being force-fucked to climax) and safe at the same time (so the feeling doesn't graduate to sheer terror, ruining the moment), then it's good for her, it's good for me and we're both getting what we want out of the experience.

I have experience in this lifestyle and have a good sense of when a sub is enjoying herself ("in sub-space") and when it's getting uncomfortable, awkward, or she's just accommodating me because she thinks I'll move on to something else she's interested in. I only engage in activities I've discussed with the provider before play starts (even if it's not a Dom / sub thing) and never surprise someone by doing something we didn't discuss because I lost control of myself in the moment or felt "she owed me".

It's clear nobody's going to change your mind, and that's your prerogative.

But you should at least be open to the fact that others see the situation differently than you do, and a difference of opinion doesn't make what they're doing "wrong".

[LutherMahoney]

The things people tell themselves to make violence, underage sex, or incest role play acceptable. "She asked for it. " "She wanted it. " Geesh, did you really say that? Even as a hobby participant one can see there is zero consent by its nature, but that is probably a bit over your mental pay grade. How about there is certainly no consent for violence, underage sex, or invest. Since you want to play extremes logic and say no one cares about my so-called desire for missionary, I guess if she says "gouge out my eye" or "shoot me" or something, then alls fair game because she asked for it.

He says "She liked it. " You say "she asked / wanted / consented for it. " Back to my original post I return saying I see why providers say the things they say about hobbyists. Carry on.

Based on other mongers' experience I got the impression the Dom Daddy / little girl thing was her preference more than the the mongers'. Its a growing and popular kink with women and men in the last 10 years (if you want to blame someone then blame MindGeek who pushed alot of this via porn). Its not usually considered an incest or age play thing as often as its more of a flavor variant of dom / sub roleplay. "Taste" is subjective and really I don't see how judging someone for their private proclivities with an another consenting adult is productive here. If she negotiated the scene and everyone was participating of their own consent then where is the issue. It would be different if the reviewer was forcing you and your kids to watch them behave that way in public. No one cares that you seem to like missionary in the dark under the covers with your eyes closed doing a two pump chump to ecstasy and over paying so why judge them. You come off more like you are jealous. Most civilian normies would say anyone who engages in this hobby has no "taste". Its recreation and it doesn't sound like the dude hurt anybody during the mutually beneficial arrangement for both parties.

I find it weird to see this kind of criticism here of all places especially after such a detailed review of his experience. I might need to try and get some cialis and set up a date while she's still around. LOL.

[WookieCookie33]

One, I'm sure she was happy beyond belief, providers love that. Two, you're correct, incest play isn't my cup of tea, but hey, the Daddy thing works works you. Three, nothing of what described contained any taste. Preference I grant you, taste, no.

Based on other mongers' experience I got the impression the Dom Daddy / little girl thing was her preference more than the the mongers'. Its a growing and popular kink with women and men in the last 10 years (if you want to blame someone then blame MindGeek who pushed alot of this via porn). Its not usually considered an incest or age play thing as often as its more of a flavor variant of dom / sub roleplay. "Taste" is subjective and really I don't see how judging someone for their private proclivities with a another consenting adult is productive here. If she negotiated the scene and everyone was participating of their own consent then where is the issue. It would be different if the reviewer was forcing you and your kids to watch them behave that way in public. No one cares that you seem to like missionary in the dark under the covers with your eyes closed doing a two pump chump to ecstasy and over paying so why judge them. You come off more like you are jealous. Most civilian normies would say anyone who engages in this hobby has no "taste". Its recreation and it doesn't sound like the dude hurt anybody during the mutually beneficial arrangement for both parties.

I find it weird to see this kind of criticism here of all places especially after such a detailed review of his experience. I might need to try and get some cialis and set up a date while she's still around. LOL.

[LutherMahoney]

One, I'm sure she was happy beyond belief, providers love that. Two, you're correct, incest play isn't my cup of tea, but hey, the Daddy thing works works you. Three, nothing of what described contained any taste. Preference I grant you, taste, no.

Well then it was a good thing I wasn't there to make you happy, eh?

From everything that happened after we were done, she was plenty happy with how things went down. She had the experience she asked for, I had the experience I asked for.

The purpose of my post was to help others who were looking to give and receive the same experience that Ashley is someone who's very interested in just that.

It's fine that it's not your cup of tea, but you should consider that everyone's got different tastes. And posting that my tastes aren't your tastes adds literally nothing to the goal of the conversation, which is to help everyone who hangs out on this board to find what they want.

Good day, sir.

[Jayke00]

Been hobbying for 20 years. Every once and while I see a review and see why many providers say what they say about hobbyists. Just a brief Debbie Downer interlude, carry on.

Well then it was a good thing I wasn't there to make you happy, eh?

From everything that happened after we were done, she was plenty happy with how things went down. She had the experience she asked for, I had the experience I asked for.

The purpose of my post was to help others who were looking to give and receive the same experience that Ashley is someone who's very interested in just that.

It's fine that it's not your cup of tea, but you should consider that everyone's got different tastes. And posting that my tastes aren't your tastes adds literally nothing to the goal of the conversation, which is to help everyone who hangs out on this board to find what they want.

Good day, sir.

[LutherMahoney]

Been hobbying for 20 years. Every once and while I see a review and see why many providers say what they say about hobbyists. Just a brief Debbie Downer interlude, carry on.

Finally was able to get together with Ashley the other day.

Communication was easy and I was at her door within a half-hour of first getting in touch.

As another monger had mentioned, when I arrived she was still getting things together in her room. But unlike that report, it was just a few minutes and we took the opportunity to talk a bit and get to know one another as she straightened up. Besides, she was walking around in a sexy schoolgirl outfit with a very short miniskirt and bending over every three seconds, so who am I to complain?

She is now a legit spinner. Tall and thin. Lost some weight in her breasts from the pictures she's posted online, but she's not "sickly thin". She probably shouldn't lose any more weight, though.

She was fumbling with her tie as it had gotten all out of sorts, so I showed her how to tie it back up correctly. She then got on the bed and we got down to business.

I got comfortable, got on the bed, kneel-walked over to her and she immediately put my cock in her mouth. Her oral fixation is exactly as advertised. After watching her on her side like that for about a minute I told her I'd lie down on my back which is probably more comfortable for both of us. It's clear to anyone on the receiving end that she enjoys using her mouth.

After about five or six minutes of enjoying that she asked if she could sit on it. "If we put a condom on first. " I had placed a few on the nightstand shortly after arriving, so she takes one out and hands it to me "I don't know how to put it on". Took me a half a heartbeat to understand that she's just staying in character as the young, innocent schoolgirl she's dressed as. So I taught her. And then I got in character. I told her that she probably doesn't know enough about her body yet to know what feels good, so she should fuck me every different way she can. Try it slow. Try it fast. Try it hard. Try to fuck me as hard as you can. You can't hurt me, so just do what feels the best after trying all the different ways.

And we were off to the races. I grabbed her breasts through her shirt and gave them a good, long, hard squeeze, which evoked an immediate reaction from her. When I started using them as a handle to guide her up and down on top of me she had her first climax. She switched to more of a grind and I started spanking her ass, but when she started bouncing up and down on me again I placed my palms underneath her ribs to lift her up off my cock and then grabbed her ribcage to pull her back down. Five or six strokes of her being lifted up by her ribs and then slammed back down on my cock was all it took for her to have a shaking and screaming climax (#2).

The third one came even more quickly, her bent over with her hot breath in my ears and my arms locked around her hips, once again controlling her on the upstroke and the downstroke, and then she asked me to bend her over.

All too happy to oblige.

Instead of grabbing her ponytail (everyone does that), I spread out my fingers like a claw and came in underhand, between the knot of her ponytail and her scalp, spreading my fingers through her hair and then clamping them shut. I gave her hair a good, firm tug, while leaning over so I could growl this in her ear: "Now I'm going to show you exactly how that wh0re pussy of yours should really be fucked. ".

After slamming my cock into her from behind to her next climax I spanked her ass and instructed her to get back on the bed, lying face down, but keeping me inside her.

With her lying prone and face down on the bed I fucked her through one more screaming orgasm "oh daddy you're so deep in my pussy now" until I finally emptied into the bag.

After a shower I placed the donation on her dresser with my thanks and I was on my way.

She's exactly as advertised. Respect her limits, treat her like a person (outside of the daddy dom good little girl fantasy) give her what she needs, take what you want and enjoy being with someone who's in it for the sex more than she's in it for the money.

[HankScorpio]

May I ask what you normally give / present as donation?

I just pay the asking price. If she is asking far more than what she is worth, then I find someone else. If she goes the extra mile in performance, I give her a little extra.

I certainly don't do what shampoo does and lie about only having x dollars and pleading for a pity fuck. How pathetic.

Seems like tried to squeeze every penny out of his sad social security check.

[Jonesy1972]

May I ask what you normally give / present as donation?

Bruh. You are a cheapskate.

[BeefNoodleSoup]

LOL. Shampoo always being a lying cheapskate lololol.

First I guess you missed the part about $6 K?

But typical hater stuff: take post out of context. That second post was about handling escorts (in an escort forum), not Sugar Babies. So you can't combine or compare the two.

One needs a different approach and style when they fish in different ponds. Use one approach with SW. Have safe techniques that don't involve violence when they won't get out of the car. Use another approach with Escorts off of sites. Learn to negotiate rates and be able to tell when a girl is desperate for funds as that helps with the negotiation. With Sugar Babies you have to have some style and class as they don't want to feel like hookers.

But anyone who doesn't know the typical rates, or just is unwilling to negotiate and just pay "list" is going to get budget limited pretty quickly.

[Shampoo55]

Bruh. You are a cheapskate.

First I guess you missed the part about $6 K?

But typical hater stuff: take post out of context. That second post was about handling escorts (in an escort forum), not Sugar Babies. So you can't combine or compare the two.

One needs a different approach and style when they fish in different ponds. Use one approach with SW. Have safe techniques that don't involve violence when they won't get out of the car. Use another approach with Escorts off of sites. Learn to negotiate rates and be able to tell when a girl is desperate for funds as that helps with the negotiation. With Sugar Babies you have to have some style and class as they don't want to feel like hookers.

But anyone who doesn't know the typical rates, or just is unwilling to negotiate and just pay "list" is going to get budget limited pretty quickly.

[HankScorpio]

So I was in contact with DynamicBeauty 24 Bryn Mawr.
https://members.seeking.com/member/6...4-364d06121eee
I even have her digits!

Girl certainly has a high opinion of herself. Working on PhD so...... or something? She would not say what amount she wanted (why would I bid against myself?) and when she asked me, I said I preferred to discuss figures in a M&G she EXPLODED and went off on me!

All kinds of assumptions that I have no money and she had seen cheapskates like me before. That's pretty fun cause I've dumped over $6 K into a suburban hottie of recent. But she was SURE I didn't have an money and told me I was a cheapskate and I should get off of SA!.

WOW! What a wacko. Jump to conclusions and then attack, belittle and berate. But hey, I'm always glad when a girl blows up on me through text! If she has those tendencies, rather have it happen then, than in real time or in public!

Maybe someone has banged her anyway? Maybe someone wants to drop $1K per meet on this hot-headed Diva?

Eh, What I have often done when I think a girl's price is too high is to ask her if she will work with me as all I have is $100 for a HHR of her time and see if she bites? Believe it or not, I use a polite approach and apologize for the short money, rather that the traditional negotiating tactic of finding and pointing out flaws in the product / service. She's seen it all before, so a good approach shouldn't make her feel slammed. But hey, often these girls have over inflated opinions of themself and she'll turn you down. IF she goes off on you cursing you or degrading you, then IMHO, you dodged a bullet anyway.

Maybe others have other negotiating techniques they could add?

Bruh. You are a cheapskate.