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  1. #5227
    Quote Originally Posted by BudGreen  [View Original Post]
    What do you think is a reasonable ppm for just a dinner or lunch?
    Every guy has their own thing but when the discussion turns to ppm for a meal it sends a negative vibe and I tend to lose interest. Maybe a little gift if I think things may work. In my experience, demanding a fee for a lunch isn't a good sign.

  2. #5226

    Reasonable fee?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeIsHome  [View Original Post]
    I do SA when on travel and will gladly pay for a dinner with some cute, screened, potential baby. Honestly I enjoy it and much prefer meeting under those conditions. They are the greatest encounters.
    What do you think is a reasonable ppm for just a dinner or lunch?

  3. #5225

    I know right?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyDarkSide  [View Original Post]
    Met my forever atf in jax when I'd regularly get down there. She moved and I was bummed for a year until one night on the road I thought of flying her to me. It's awesome. The real question is had anyone made it work for a first time meeting? It would open the potential babies to astronomical numbers that would blow my mind LOL. Airfare is cheap.
    Unfortunately for it to work for me I would have to go out of town for a couple days or just put them up in hotel and see them as schedule permits.

  4. #5224
    Quote Originally Posted by BudGreen  [View Original Post]
    LOL Has anyone flew someone in before?
    Met my forever atf in jax when I'd regularly get down there. She moved and I was bummed for a year until one night on the road I thought of flying her to me. It's awesome. The real question is had anyone made it work for a first time meeting? It would open the potential babies to astronomical numbers that would blow my mind LOL. Airfare is cheap.

  5. #5223
    Quote Originally Posted by BudGreen  [View Original Post]
    Most of the girls I have met this past year do not do public meets they prefer discretion and would rather have the cash than the food. I enjoy dining just don't think I should have to pay for it.
    I do SA when on travel and will gladly pay for a dinner with some cute, screened, potential baby. Honestly I enjoy it and much prefer meeting under those conditions. They are the greatest encounters.

  6. #5222

    I would start with

    Quote Originally Posted by SixWheels  [View Original Post]
    Recently met a sexy 20 something I would to explore the possibility of an arrangement with. The problem is don't really know how to approach it. Any ideas? I absolutely don't want to offer too much too fast.
    Asking her what she wants. I never just offer an amount first.

  7. #5221

    That was happening before the pandemic though. When flights weren't as cheap

    Quote Originally Posted by BudGreen  [View Original Post]
    I agree but I also have seen multiple sites including SA and various SB forums where SD actually does fly SB in from all over the country because airline tickets are cheap. Trust me very few girls in the central United States will turn down an all-expense paid to central Florida most with a minimal allowance if anything other than a little spending money however at the very least a grand for a weekend probably longer. The marketing of SA makes it crystal clear a good SB should expect to make a couple hundred just for being herself and most SD are young studs who are in great shape own successful businesses and money is not a problem. They always do these interview pieces and the SB is always bragging about make 5 k a month. Many of the ones that sign up and disappear are doing so because they are looking for a rich husband. The overweight, average girl is the real target. LOL Has anyone flew someone in before?
    An no, I have not. But I get messages from girls all the country / world asking for that. I think twice it has actually happened where a girl was actually coming to Florida for another reason and we met up. But I have had multiple girls travel to me in Jax (and vice versa) within a 2 hour radius. The pickins' are much better in Orlando. Not as much competition for the ones in Savannah, Tally, Gainesville, etc.

  8. #5220

    A little help

    Recently met a sexy 20 something I would to explore the possibility of an arrangement with. The problem is don't really know how to approach it. Any ideas? I absolutely don't want to offer too much too fast.

  9. #5219

    Multiple culprits

    Quote Originally Posted by HoosierDaddy69  [View Original Post]
    Like you, I've been on / off SA (and all the others) for 15+ years. Obviously if they're able to lay up and do nothing, get $3200+ in stimulus money, and $600 a week in unemployment for a while vs working or sugaring, some will choose the easy / lazy path. But that incentive is drying up. I think the bigger culprit is * and other venues for selling their pics & vids. While most don't make all that much with that, the few really successful ones inspire the others (and the lower quality girls) to try. SA has apparently not bothered policing those online-virtual only arrangement seekers like they used to. So it equates to more work, time, etc to find fewer SB's to have fun with.
    I agree but I also have seen multiple sites including SA and various SB forums where SD actually does fly SB in from all over the country because airline tickets are cheap. Trust me very few girls in the central United States will turn down an all-expense paid to central Florida most with a minimal allowance if anything other than a little spending money however at the very least a grand for a weekend probably longer. The marketing of SA makes it crystal clear a good SB should expect to make a couple hundred just for being herself and most SD are young studs who are in great shape own successful businesses and money is not a problem. They always do these interview pieces and the SB is always bragging about make 5 k a month. Many of the ones that sign up and disappear are doing so because they are looking for a rich husband. The overweight, average girl is the real target. LOL Has anyone flew someone in before?

  10. #5218

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by BudGreen  [View Original Post]
    Most of the girls I have met this past year do not do public meets they prefer discretion and would rather have the cash than the food. I enjoy dining just don't think I should have to pay for it.
    Thanks for the feedback. I have had good success with just a coffee or drink for the first meet. I really like that first meet in public to make sure it is a good fit. It has been my experience in the past if I have her come straight to my hotel room for the first meet she is not what I am expecting and then things can get a little awkward.

  11. #5217

    Similar

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishguy717  [View Original Post]
    Most of my initial 'meet and greets' are for lunch, and I've already vetted them with extensive pics, so MOST of the time, I know it's someone I want to meet. That being said, I will treat them to lunch, but unless something else happens after, or the date is extended, I don't give them anything else. If the date goes well and it's someone I want to see, and they want to see me, we negotiate terms for future dates. And sometimes yes, it happens right then. Sometimes not Just depends on the girl.
    My initial 'meet and greets' are similar. I like to meet for a coffee or drink first to make sure we are both comfortable with each other and want to move forward with an arrangement. The allowance does not start until the fun starts. Sometimes than can happen as soon as we are done with the meet and greet, sometimes it is the next meeting.

  12. #5216

    Discreet

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscreetFun306  [View Original Post]
    Any intel on this one? Comms have been pretty good but she refuses to meet once in public first which is a red flag for me.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/7b005...9-d3a1c4b0bf62
    Most of the girls I have met this past year do not do public meets they prefer discretion and would rather have the cash than the food. I enjoy dining just don't think I should have to pay for it.

  13. #5215

    Interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishguy717  [View Original Post]
    Most of my initial 'meet and greets' are for lunch, and I've already vetted them with extensive pics, so MOST of the time, I know it's someone I want to meet. That being said, I will treat them to lunch, but unless something else happens after, or the date is extended, I don't give them anything else. If the date goes well and it's someone I want to see, and they want to see me, we negotiate terms for future dates. And sometimes yes, it happens right then. Sometimes not Just depends on the girl.
    I have tried that but found myself wasting a lot of time just getting them to keep the date or a ton of cancelations some of the best SB I have had started with $100 but when you factor in that dinner / lunch allowance I'm better off on EROS so I haven't been doing meet and greets but have learned quickly when you just show up to their place you might not always like what you see.

  14. #5214

    Stimulus is definitely a part of it

    Quote Originally Posted by KDoogie  [View Original Post]
    All -- I hate to add to the chorus of negativity about the slim pickin's on SA, but damn -- I have been a member off and on for 15 years or so, and this is the biggest drought I have gone through. Don't get me wrong -- I still think it's the best site of it's type -- but the quality of SB's seems to really have dropped. No replies, no shows at scheduled meetings, ghosting, tons of unattractive ladies, etc. But I'll keep plowing along and hope for the best. Do you think that all the gov't-issued stimulus checks -- which is making it hard for restaurants and retail stores to find help for open positions -- is also keeping potential SB's off the market?
    Like you, I've been on / off SA (and all the others) for 15+ years. Obviously if they're able to lay up and do nothing, get $3200+ in stimulus money, and $600 a week in unemployment for a while vs working or sugaring, some will choose the easy / lazy path. But that incentive is drying up. I think the bigger culprit is * and other venues for selling their pics & vids. While most don't make all that much with that, the few really successful ones inspire the others (and the lower quality girls) to try. SA has apparently not bothered policing those online-virtual only arrangement seekers like they used to. So it equates to more work, time, etc to find fewer SB's to have fun with.

  15. #5213

    Hate to be negative, but.

    All -- I hate to add to the chorus of negativity about the slim pickin's on SA, but damn -- I have been a member off and on for 15 years or so, and this is the biggest drought I have gone through. Don't get me wrong -- I still think it's the best site of it's type -- but the quality of SB's seems to really have dropped. No replies, no shows at scheduled meetings, ghosting, tons of unattractive ladies, etc. But I'll keep plowing along and hope for the best. Do you think that all the gov't-issued stimulus checks -- which is making it hard for restaurants and retail stores to find help for open positions -- is also keeping potential SB's off the market?

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