Stupid shit in St Louis

[Jeffc 574]

Several people here have told you to stop harassing the working girls. The last time was about a year ago. Now I am hearing from a new batch of girls about the same shit.

Just fight the demon and stop.

[Parakleet]

Anyone remember Tiffany (used to go by Emily) up north off 270? Well she got sentenced to 23 years yesterday for assaulting police officers, ramming into police cars, fleeing the scene of a crime, and 75 fent pills.

https://www.kmov.com/2023/07/20/nort...g-police-cars/

I saw that and thought I recognized her.

[AceChase]

Anyone remember Tiffany (used to go by Emily) up north off 270? Well she got sentenced to 23 years yesterday for assaulting police officers, ramming into police cars, fleeing the scene of a crime, and 75 fent pills.

https://www.kmov.com/2023/07/20/nort...g-police-cars/

[DScott]

Plan A fell through yesterday. Went over to Chippewa Jasmine. Lucked out. Arrived about noon. By 12:30 they were staking guys up until 3:00. That isn't the stupid shit part.

Background piano music (Asian Massage Mix #4?) included the wedding March.

What?

Yeah, THAT would kill the mood.

[Jeffc 574]

Plan A fell through yesterday. Went over to Chippewa Jasmine. Lucked out. Arrived about noon. By 12:30 they were staking guys up until 3:00. That isn't the stupid shit part.

Background piano music (Asian Massage Mix #4?) included the wedding March.

What?

[RickBarnes]

Funny you mention cash. I contacted a few of the fine (sarcasm) ladies in the area.

They all asked for gift cards upon my arrival. I told them I don't deal with gift cards. They hung up on me. I feel as if it would have been a scam. Not sure how but a scam neverless.

They will probably have you go to an address and then want you to give them the gift card # before they give you the exact address. It's always a scam. Years ago, someone gave me the address to a club house at an apartment building. I played along and waited 30-45 minutes and then pretended I was there. They wanted the gift card # on the back in order for them to give me the address. Total scam.

[Terry2525]

Cash is King! Clowns!

Funny you mention cash. I contacted a few of the fine (sarcasm) ladies in the area.

They all asked for gift cards upon my arrival. I told them I don't deal with gift cards. They hung up on me. I feel as if it would have been a scam. Not sure how but a scam neverless.

[Pac92]

Cash is King! Clowns!

A week or so ago there was a posting about how the MH Apartment AMP got nabbed. It reminded me of this story from a friend in the pizza business. If you haven't noticed, many AMPs are next to or near pizza places.

Pizza Manager.

February, 2017.

Lady comes in looking for her husband cause his car is parked out front. I half lie and tell her I don't know where he is, but the car has been out there about a half hour. She is now in Nancy Drew mode, waiting in the front of the store to see where her husband comes from. Nothing good comes of this, details to follow.

Husband is next door getting a "massage". Wife followed him from work because every other Tuesday he has a weird 90 dollar charge on the credit card. She thought it was a motel, but he parked in front of Domino's so then she was going to bust him for buying his friends pizza. No ma'am. Your husband is not spending 90 on pizza every two weeks.

He came out a little bit ago. Follow up when I have time. I noticed a smudge on my window, so I went outside to clean it while everything went down. Need to finish prep then I will give everyone the conclusion.

So to conclude my story of the lady waiting to bust her husband at the massage parlor, she goes back out to her car and is watching his car like a hawk. He comes out the massage parlor with his arm around the Asian lady. He looks like he feels like a million bucks, until he sees his angry wife swooping in. He immediately practically throws the Asian woman to the side and enters what I like to call "dumb dude stance" (hands up, legs shoulder length apart, shoulders shrugged in that "it's not what it totally looks like thing" Nancy Drew turns into Alex Cabot and starts reading the husband his rights. The Asian lady takes off back into the store. Wife ends up yelling about price and how much the massages are. The husband can't come up with an excuse, so the wife opens the door to the massage parlor and starts demanding prices. The lady at the desk has no idea what to say or do, and is muttering in Chinese. Eventually she throws a pamphlet at the lady because a screaming wife is bad for the boner business. The wife comes out yelling about how none of the services are more than 40 bucks and the husband says the dumbest thing I've ever heard, "Well ya got to give them a good tip. ".

Wife goes ballistic and then the pieces start coming together for her as to why a person would tip so much. She was not happy by this realization. Knowing the jig was up, he started with the I love yous, and telling her how stressful it is at work. He went so far as to say the massage lady forced herself onto him. Wife tells massage people she is going to call the business bureau on them. They start trying to hand her gift cards she has no interest in. She throws one at the husband and gets in her car talking about how her mother was right about him, and he will be hearing from her lawyer. Moral of the story is always pay in cash kids. Always.

Follow up.

They got a divorce. She still orders pizza. He moved to a cheaper place in the city and hasn't been seen since. The lesson still stands kids. Always pay cash.

[Jeffc 574]

A week or so ago there was a posting about how the MH Apartment AMP got nabbed. It reminded me of this story from a friend in the pizza business. If you haven't noticed, many AMPs are next to or near pizza places.

Pizza Manager.

February, 2017.

Lady comes in looking for her husband cause his car is parked out front. I half lie and tell her I don't know where he is, but the car has been out there about a half hour. She is now in Nancy Drew mode, waiting in the front of the store to see where her husband comes from. Nothing good comes of this, details to follow.

Husband is next door getting a "massage". Wife followed him from work because every other Tuesday he has a weird 90 dollar charge on the credit card. She thought it was a motel, but he parked in front of Domino's so then she was going to bust him for buying his friends pizza. No ma'am. Your husband is not spending 90 on pizza every two weeks.

He came out a little bit ago. Follow up when I have time. I noticed a smudge on my window, so I went outside to clean it while everything went down. Need to finish prep then I will give everyone the conclusion.

So to conclude my story of the lady waiting to bust her husband at the massage parlor, she goes back out to her car and is watching his car like a hawk. He comes out the massage parlor with his arm around the Asian lady. He looks like he feels like a million bucks, until he sees his angry wife swooping in. He immediately practically throws the Asian woman to the side and enters what I like to call "dumb dude stance" (hands up, legs shoulder length apart, shoulders shrugged in that "it's not what it totally looks like thing" Nancy Drew turns into Alex Cabot and starts reading the husband his rights. The Asian lady takes off back into the store. Wife ends up yelling about price and how much the massages are. The husband can't come up with an excuse, so the wife opens the door to the massage parlor and starts demanding prices. The lady at the desk has no idea what to say or do, and is muttering in Chinese. Eventually she throws a pamphlet at the lady because a screaming wife is bad for the boner business. The wife comes out yelling about how none of the services are more than 40 bucks and the husband says the dumbest thing I've ever heard, "Well ya got to give them a good tip. ".

Wife goes ballistic and then the pieces start coming together for her as to why a person would tip so much. She was not happy by this realization. Knowing the jig was up, he started with the I love yous, and telling her how stressful it is at work. He went so far as to say the massage lady forced herself onto him. Wife tells massage people she is going to call the business bureau on them. They start trying to hand her gift cards she has no interest in. She throws one at the husband and gets in her car talking about how her mother was right about him, and he will be hearing from her lawyer. Moral of the story is always pay in cash kids. Always.

Follow up.

They got a divorce. She still orders pizza. He moved to a cheaper place in the city and hasn't been seen since. The lesson still stands kids. Always pay cash.

[Alerius]

Yeah, that's just a typical hobbyin day in The Lou. I finally had a little free time and just tried seeing Ashley (thick white girl). Convo was going great, she was into some freaky stuff, rates were great. We made plans, she said she's in Earth City and is "ready when you are. " I was just getting out of the shower, said I would be there in 30 min. Texted I'm on my way and ask for address. That was a couple hours ago. I waited around in earth City for a half hour and then left. She still hasn't replied. But now I've got shit to do, so instead of seeing someone else I'll be seeing no one today.

Sounds a lot like my experience on Monday. I knew I had some availability in the evening, so I'd been doing lots of homework and narrowed down to four possibilities and started trying to line them up late morning. First one, no response at all even though she's been putting up 4-5 ads a day since then, so it's not like she's not working. Second one is outcall only, even though the add says Incall. Third one is not where her ad says (close to me), but an hour away. Finally number four responds. We set something up and conversation is going well, but pretty slow response times. The time comes and I head out to the address. I give updates all along the way ("leaving now", "10 min away", etc) and she responds. I get there and all of a sudden she needs a few more minutes, then she's on her way, and then nothing. I wait about 10 more minutes and then bail. Finally, today she sends a text. Sorry about the other night. Can we try again tonight? AYFKM? The hobby's always been a little like this, but it's definitely gotten a lot worse recently.

[Roman Bath]

Jesus H.

Was really in the mood and just wanted to find someone quick this morning (not tomorrow, not 2 days from now, not 1130 pm later tonight) so I had to hit the pages of SkipTheGames (yeah, I know, I know.). I dunno, I was just hoping that somehow I'd get lucky. Tried to set something up with this lady April Rayne:

https://skipthegames.com/posts/st-lo...l/352687481516

And she immediately gets weirded out. Like within the first couple responses. Says I have to send her a pic doing a specific thing. Sure what the hell, sent her what she asked for. Nope. No change. Guess she figures most cops are bearded and plotting vice stings from their bathroom while shirtless.

So what was she jumpy about? Because in my original text asking if she was available I mentioned I haven't seen her before. Ya know, because I haven't seen her before. Like it's literally one of the top 3 questions I get asked by providers I haven't seen before.

But the good news is she totally cured me of being horny. Now I'm just annoyed that I live in this buttcrack of the bible belt where this is the only kind of option available on short notice.

Yeah, that's just a typical hobbyin day in The Lou. I finally had a little free time and just tried seeing Ashley (thick white girl). Convo was going great, she was into some freaky stuff, rates were great. We made plans, she said she's in Earth City and is "ready when you are. " I was just getting out of the shower, said I would be there in 30 min. Texted I'm on my way and ask for address. That was a couple hours ago. I waited around in earth City for a half hour and then left. She still hasn't replied. But now I've got shit to do, so instead of seeing someone else I'll be seeing no one today.

[HesDeadJim]

Jesus H.

Was really in the mood and just wanted to find someone quick this morning (not tomorrow, not 2 days from now, not 1130 pm later tonight) so I had to hit the pages of SkipTheGames (yeah, I know, I know.). I dunno, I was just hoping that somehow I'd get lucky. Tried to set something up with this lady April Rayne:

https://skipthegames.com/posts/st-lo...l/352687481516

And she immediately gets weirded out. Like within the first couple responses. Says I have to send her a pic doing a specific thing. Sure what the hell, sent her what she asked for. Nope. No change. Guess she figures most cops are bearded and plotting vice stings from their bathroom while shirtless.

So what was she jumpy about? Because in my original text asking if she was available I mentioned I haven't seen her before. Ya know, because I haven't seen her before. Like it's literally one of the top 3 questions I get asked by providers I haven't seen before.

But the good news is she totally cured me of being horny. Now I'm just annoyed that I live in this buttcrack of the bible belt where this is the only kind of option available on short notice.

[Roman Bath]

The customers do set the rate but unfortunately, we aren't going to get men to ban together and stop paying these women more than they deserve. Sadly, men aren't wired that way. Women are. They are more of a hive mind and will ban together to force a change in their favor. Men are more individualistic so getting all the guys on boards to fight their impulses and stop paying these skags outrageous prices won't ever happen. It could and it would change things. If there is no money coming in for these gals, they will be forced to lower their prices. It just won't happen because there will always be men willing to pay these prices to get a nut off. Sad but true.

Everyone is in this for their own interests, there is no "greater good. " There is no escort union conspiring to not see any guys for less than X amount. You can still see a huge range in prices, but it's generally proportional to the quality of the girl. I'm sure the less attractive ones want in on the $800/ hr action too, but that ain't happening. If guys were to hold out for lower prices, what price does RogueOne think we should wait for, for a particular girl? What if some other dude wants a price that is half of that? There will never be a consensus. It's a supply / demand issue, and what you are suggesting is for everyone else to reduce their "demand" for this service. But it will still equate to the same number of girls seen over a year. Say you currently have $4000 to spend and see 10 girls a year. Now let's say everyone drops their frequency by 50% for a month. So ladies drop their prices by 50% to compensate. But now you are spending $2000 a year to see 5 girls. You still have $2000 and now you can see girls for $200 each instead of $400 each right? Wrong, everyone else will do the same thing, and we'll be right back where we started.

[RogueOne1977]

No, the price is set by the complex interplay between the providers of goods and services and the purchasers of the goods and services. For example, my attorney charges a set hourly rate. She's a good attorney and will stay busy regardless of what I feel about her rate. I could piss her off and tell her the rate is too high and I will only pay $100 less than what she wants. She most likely would laugh in my face and tell me to fuck off and find a different attorney. So even though I as the "customer" might like to set a lower rate, if I want her services I have to accept that the overall market of customers is willing enough to pay the rate that she wants if I want to keep her services. The same thing with a farrier. I may think he's mad to raise his rates for shoeing and trimming horses but if I want that particular farrier to do the job and he's getting the rate he desires from his other clients I'm pretty much stuck paying his rate if I want him to do the job. Now at the same time if either the attorney or the farrier raise their rates too high, customers will start looking for other options and there is almost always other options though they might not be as good in either the short or the long run.

The customers do set the rate but unfortunately, we aren't going to get men to ban together and stop paying these women more than they deserve. Sadly, men aren't wired that way. Women are. They are more of a hive mind and will ban together to force a change in their favor. Men are more individualistic so getting all the guys on boards to fight their impulses and stop paying these skags outrageous prices won't ever happen. It could and it would change things. If there is no money coming in for these gals, they will be forced to lower their prices. It just won't happen because there will always be men willing to pay these prices to get a nut off. Sad but true.

[KatChaser]

No, the price is set by the complex interplay between the providers of goods and services and the purchasers of the goods and services. For example, my attorney charges a set hourly rate. She's a good attorney and will stay busy regardless of what I feel about her rate. I could piss her off and tell her the rate is too high and I will only pay $100 less than what she wants. She most likely would laugh in my face and tell me to fuck off and find a different attorney. So even though I as the "customer" might like to set a lower rate, if I want her services I have to accept that the overall market of customers is willing enough to pay the rate that she wants if I want to keep her services. The same thing with a farrier. I may think he's mad to raise his rates for shoeing and trimming horses but if I want that particular farrier to do the job and he's getting the rate he desires from his other clients I'm pretty much stuck paying his rate if I want him to do the job. Now at the same time if either the attorney or the farrier raise their rates too high, customers will start looking for other options and there is almost always other options though they might not be as good in either the short or the long run.

I give her a price, she can take it or leave it regardless if she wants more than I offer, so I set my own of what I am willing to pay.