"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**GoneForGood97** · 03-23-22 18:15

Saw this 19 year old half white / half Arab hottie a few weeks ago, we had a good time, don't know why but after a few weeks she decided to block me so I'm tossing her to the board. If you're already seeing her and paying more than 3 then jokes on you, work on your negotiation skills LOL.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...2-a7369d2e0d9f

Pics are real and accurate. Anyways, we start over SA and I get her over to text. We text back and forth, she asked for 4 but I brought her down 3 after a lot of negotiating. She still lives at home so can't host. 3 plus hotel is higher than I normally go, but I decided to pay the "teen tax" because she's Arab / Persian and that's a checkbox I wanted to check. While still texting she was super concerned with meeting early and being done by a certain time. I'm guessing she doesn't want her parents to suspect what she's up to. It's a long drive for me and the only way to make her meetup time work is for me to take off work early, which I can do but not something I can make a habit of. I was getting the clockwatcher vibe, but again I just wanted to check off my box. She also specifically mentioned we'd need a cover, and no CIM, but BBJ was fine (turns out this isn't true see further down).

When I get to the hotel I text her I'm there, she texts me back and is leaving but traffic is snarled so she gets in about 15 minutes late (and she uses Uber). Since I had negotiated her down I'm a little worried because everything she said earlier made me think she was going to be a clock watcher. She gets in the room at around 5:20.

She gets there, pics are accurate, tits are amazing and her body is solid. And she insists she's really 19 and I believe her. We talk a little, she apologizes for being late but insists we have to be done by 6:15, I push back and say 6:30 and she agrees, We start making out. And I can tell she's not an experienced kisser. Like she's deeply kissing me, but also literally sucking on my lips / tongue super hard. As in my lips got sore after I left LOL. Anyways, off with the bra, and now I'm sucking her tits and fingering her and she's really wet. She asks me to undress and I do so. More kissing, more playing with her great tits, and I move to go down on her. She tells me not worry about it, that she wants to focus on me, but I tell her I enjoy it and so she lets me. Right before I start I can tell she's just going to "let" me do it so we can get to the main event so she can leave. But then I start, and her eyes go wide, and breathing starts to get more rapid, and I begin to really get into it. She was pretty wet before, but now she is borderline gushing. I bring her to her first climax, and as she pulls my head away from her pussy she's out of breath. I smile and ask her if she enjoyed it.

"I. That was. I'm just. Holy shit. I didin't know. I didn't know I could cum like that. " She then talks a little about how guys her age have tried do that and it feels ok but she didn't see what the big deal was, and the other guys she's met on the site were just interested in getting theirs and getting out.

From this point forward she doesn't give a flying fuck about the clock. We're there a solid 2 hours. She's actually a little weird about cum. Not just in a "I don't want it in my mouth" thing, but didn't want it on her. She actually made a very half assed attempt at head but stopped because of pre-cum. I'm not going to make her do anything she doesn't want to, but I let her know she's going to have to get over it in the future. We fuck again (covered) and she's really enthusiastic, as long as there's a cover between her and my dick.

I get another orgasm out of her. We're alternating between foreplay, fucking, cuddling, repeat, and we're doing some post coital cuddling and making out. Over the course of our time together I've gone from "Dude she's wants to fuck and then gtfo as fast as possible" to "Sex guru and mentor" LOL. As I'm fingering her again (and she's still soaking wet, I guess 19 is just insatiable) I ask her if she enjoys ass play. She gets real shy, said she's never tried it, but she'd let me try if I promised to stop if she asked. I very carefully begin playing with her asshole while fingering her, and she somehow manages to get MORE WET. I then go down on her again while fingering her Gspot and ass, and she is loving every second of it. I get what must be her 4th or 5th O (I've lost count) and she looks at me like I'm a space alien and says "I think. I think I'm into butt stuff". However, she doesn't want to try full anal right then without being better prepared. I agree. She tells me she absolutely wants me to be the first guy to take her ass next time I see her (but then later blocks me sooo.).

She's inexperienced but I think could be taught. She's a little selfish in bed, and I told her in no uncertain terms that she is going to have to get over the cum thing if she wants to see me again, and she will need to give me an actual BJ next time. When together with me she said she will, though in our texts a week or so later she is adamant about no BJ. She asks if I'd drop her off at the grocery store on my way out of town and I do, and I'm resting my hand on her leg while driving, and then she sticks my hand down her pants. I finger her while driving (she's soaked again. Note to self need to check car seat and possibly clean it.) and we get to the store. She really needs to go and so do I, we kiss again, then sorta make out, then my hands are under her shirt and she's pulling her tits out of the top of her bra. However, I spot someone heading towards a nearby car and let her know. She dresses back, and we agree she needs to go before we end up staying even longer.

Not exactly GFE material, but a way better experience than I thought it was going to be. I was hoping to hit it a few more times, but I guess it's alright she decided she didn't with gas prices being dumb and she being so far from me. Anyways, if you don't mind paying the "teen tax" and don't mind CFS and no head, she's a looker, and might do anal if you treat her right. Good luck.

**TylerDurden07** · 03-23-22 16:39

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...2-bac8a1747e4c

She hits me up & starts talking all flirty. When I try to move her to text, she says we can only use Whatsapp. I offered Snapchat or Insta, but that was a no-go for her. It can only be WhatsApp. Nah!

At minimum, in my experience, girls that insist you have to use Whatsapp or Telegram are not in the United States and / or are probably scammers, so I avoid.

Am I right to be suspicious of those types, or am I being paranoid?

**TylerDurden07** · 03-23-22 13:43

Originally Posted by Hal1957 [View Original Post]

A girl who got 200 for a first intimate is willing to go 5 times a week, 20 times a month and that would be 4 k.

Definitely can't argue with the math. But it was presented to me as I pay $4 k a month. Guess I wasn't attractive enough to her to get the "one among many" deal, LOL.

**Hal1957** · 03-23-22 09:56

A girl who got 200 for a first intimate is willing to go 5 times a week, 20 times a month and that would be 4 k.

Originally Posted by TylerDurden07 [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/messages...6-25c8730129b0

This one seemed pretty levelheaded at first & said she was a single mom with 2 kids. But then she told me her "last daddy" gave her $4,000 per month! Anything is possible, but I highly doubt it. Wished her lots of luck.

**GoneForGood97** · 03-23-22 01:45

Originally Posted by Verdit [View Original Post]

She wants $2,000 a month.

WHO IS ENCOURAGING THIS KIND OF BULLSHIT!?

Tiktok, Instagram, Youtube, and Twitter "sugar baby influencers". There's a whole "sugar baby" social media scene where a few "sugar baby influencers" (god I hate the term influencer) post Tiktoks, Youtube vids, Insta posts, etc etc about how they make thousands $ by just texting guys online, sending occasional feet pic, and knowing how to min / max a guys potential payouts by catering to some made up bullshit called "Fin-dom" (financial domination). It's pretty wild. Of course like NFTs it's all bullshit. There's only a small amount of desperate enough simps who will pay for non-physical intimacy to go around, and they tend to gravitate towards the hottest girls. Those girls then tell all their followers that if they follow them they can learn how to make thousands of dollars by just sending cute vids, texting, and feet pics, and never need to actually have sex with any of those "losers. " The whole scam falls apart though because there aren't really enough of the "Findom" whales to actually support the entire Tiktok sugaring community, but like NFTs and lotto tickets, all it takes is one winner for the masses to think "hey, I can win too!" And of course there is a large intersection between these girls and the Onlycam content creators who looking for the same guys but will actually sell nudes on top of the rest.

**Verdit** · 03-23-22 00:05

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...e-7e8ca3898f53

She wants $2,000 a month.

WHO IS ENCOURAGING THIS KIND OF BULLSHIT!?

**Verdit** · 03-22-22 23:59

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...9-18804c4b8be2

Wants "at least 1500 a month to cover some expenses. ".

Uh. That sounds like a salary to me. You want PTO with that, too?

**Peter Johnson** · 03-22-22 23:48

Originally Posted by TylerDurden07 [View Original Post]

She's cute, but she's got mental issues.

Thanks for the heads up, and not too surprised by your story. Of course, most women have mental issues. Not all, but most. At least these came out before you got naked, and not afterwards, when she could have accused you of sexual assault, or worse.

**TylerDurden07** · 03-22-22 14:50

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...f-45f68e7a139c

Changed locations twice today already. Worse yet, her bio pic is deceptive. She's not the hot girl in the front, but the blonde in the rear who gets upset when you ask for clearer pics, just says "fine, I'll go talk to someone else!" Oh man, I'm losing sleep over that!

**TylerDurden07** · 03-22-22 14:46

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...9-98c70b463530

Wants everything online. Pass.

**TylerDurden07** · 03-22-22 14:43

https://members.seeking.com/messages...6-25c8730129b0

This one seemed pretty levelheaded at first & said she was a single mom with 2 kids. But then she told me her "last daddy" gave her $4,000 per month! Anything is possible, but I highly doubt it. Wished her lots of luck.

**TylerDurden07** · 03-22-22 14:37

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...3-238cd5747269

I've been in the hobby for 20 years or so & read this forum for several of those. Many of your tips have helped me in my hobbying life, so I need to give back. Cut me some slack if this review isn't written the way it should be.

I started talking to this one & we had instant chemistry--or so I thought. She's talking all affectionate & letting me know she's really interested. Says she's new to the site & I was the first dude she's talked to (yeah, I know). We agree on preliminaries, including BBFS, I didn't leave any confusion about that.

So I headed down to Covington to see her. It's about 75-80 miles one way from where I live. We have lunch & go for a walk & talk. Agreed on 200 ppm in the future, plus I pay for her Uber to get her to my place, which itself would be 100 extra for me. Everything's good. Due to some time constraints for both her & me that day, we weren't able to fuck. She asked for nothing other than her Uber money to get to the restaurant, & it wasn't much, so that was fine. Next day, she texts & is still all warm & fuzzy about me & the arrangement.

2 days after meeting, absolute 180, like not even the same person. Texts me out of the blue, all but accusing me of "jeapordizing" her "safety" since I won't use a condom & "won't do that just to please someone else". Mind you, I had looked her straight in the eye 2 days earlier & asked if BBFS was okay, & she said yes. Anyways, she reminds me too that "my other M & G's have all worn condoms". Gee, & here I was thinking I was her first. Well damn! And then she just, bam, cuts off contact so no further conversation about it.

So that was it. The crazy thing is how abrupt the whole thing was. All over me & talking sexy & seductive one day & then two days later, the cold ***** comes out for no explicable reason. I've seen mood swings before in these girls but haven't seen one quite this abrupt & extreme from a girl where I saw zero signs of drug use.

She's cute, but she's got mental issues. If you can stand the drive to see her, or Uber costs to bring her to you, & if you don't mind wrapping up, take a shot.

**HollowGuy** · 03-22-22 11:02

Originally Posted by Shakal8021 [View Original Post]

Definitely agreed with everything you said. I just made my SA account on the 9th of this month and SDM a few days later and I wish I knew about these sooner. I can't believe I've been letting all this go right by, I heard Sa used to be a goldmine too. All about reading the girl too, some are strictly business and want to know what you're looking for right away while others if you just chat them up and try to get to know them a bit, they may offer more than some may expect. One on SA let me get at it for free and another one reached out to me and I told her I just want fwb and she agreed to it. We haven't quite met yet because of the distance and I met one on SDM that also wants to be fwb and said she doesn't want any gifts. While others you may get around about talking down their outlandish rates.

I am so frustrated with Seekings behavior. From what I have been seeing they are just banning and suspending accounts for silly things. I really hope everyone would band together and stop using them to hurt their pockets.

**Shakal8021** · 03-21-22 22:52

Originally Posted by SkyWalker21 [View Original Post]

I've had good success with Sugar Daddy Meet, and SA. Banging 2 sistas off of SDM right now (consistently 2. 0 for one, that lets me do whatever I want to her. Loves it when I force her to take the dick (She texted me that today) The other just for occasional dinner, gas money, and actually paid for an oil change), banged 3 chicks over the last 4-6 weeks. Posted about 1, and the other is adamant about not sharing any pics of her. But I will eventually post pics. It's a numbers game, and if you can smooth talk them, you can find some nice average to above average chicks.

Said all that to say that you can get some free kitty if you know how to talk to them (Well they all cost something. Never met a cheap gf or cheap wife). I do it for the occasional thrill.

Also suggest that you get a passport and learn about smashing hot chicks in other countries.

Bottom line is listen to and read about some of the strategies these OGs have been sharing and have deployed, and you can find your way into more kitty. But you have to know how to talk to these women that have a high sense of worth for their bodies and time.

BTW: These 2 that I bang every week or two, give BBJ, and let me stroke it bare, as long as I don't nut in them. Both said they don't like kissing, but can't get enough of it. You can talk women into a lot of things, if you can make them feel comfortable enough!

Just remember. Nothing is free, not even information!

May the Force be with you.

Skywalker.

Definitely agreed with everything you said. I just made my SA account on the 9th of this month and SDM a few days later and I wish I knew about these sooner. I can't believe I've been letting all this go right by, I heard Sa used to be a goldmine too. All about reading the girl too, some are strictly business and want to know what you're looking for right away while others if you just chat them up and try to get to know them a bit, they may offer more than some may expect. One on SA let me get at it for free and another one reached out to me and I told her I just want fwb and she agreed to it. We haven't quite met yet because of the distance and I met one on SDM that also wants to be fwb and said she doesn't want any gifts. While others you may get around about talking down their outlandish rates.

**SkyWalker21** · 03-21-22 20:18

Originally Posted by Josh2089 [View Original Post]

Hey guys been doing this for about 2 years and getting tired of all the b. S with massage parlors and escorts. I was wondering if anyone would be interested in sharing the contact info of a good looking girl in the gwinnett (snellville) area. Don't mind paying extra for better service. Thanks.

I've had good success with Sugar Daddy Meet, and SA. Banging 2 sistas off of SDM right now (consistently 2. 0 for one, that lets me do whatever I want to her. Loves it when I force her to take the dick (She texted me that today) The other just for occasional dinner, gas money, and actually paid for an oil change), banged 3 chicks over the last 4-6 weeks. Posted about 1, and the other is adamant about not sharing any pics of her. But I will eventually post pics. It's a numbers game, and if you can smooth talk them, you can find some nice average to above average chicks.

Said all that to say that you can get some free kitty if you know how to talk to them (Well they all cost something. Never met a cheap gf or cheap wife). I do it for the occasional thrill.

Also suggest that you get a passport and learn about smashing hot chicks in other countries.

Bottom line is listen to and read about some of the strategies these OGs have been sharing and have deployed, and you can find your way into more kitty. But you have to know how to talk to these women that have a high sense of worth for their bodies and time.

BTW: These 2 that I bang every week or two, give BBJ, and let me stroke it bare, as long as I don't nut in them. Both said they don't like kissing, but can't get enough of it. You can talk women into a lot of things, if you can make them feel comfortable enough!

Just remember. Nothing is free, not even information!

May the Force be with you.

Skywalker.