"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Wleakr]

I'm not trying to argue or debate the subject. But I will say that as long as you have signs on your home saying "you are being recorded". You have nothing to worry about from a legal standpoint. That's why whenever you walk into any business they have to have those stickers on the door etc. It's not your fault if people don't read the warnings. That's how private place is cover themselves legally. And this does not only apply to businesses or non moving structures. But don't believe me, always do your own research.

This is why it's best to keep certain things close to the vest.

Everybody on this site is some type of degenerate, but you never know what subject will trigger someone to get on their high horse.

Some are ok to break rule "1", but rule "2" is sacred.

[SalvatoreIttup]

I would ignore this advice to secretly videotape sex. It is a felony in Georgia to secretly videotape another person in a private place. As far as I know, the courts haven't decided whether a car is private, but a home or hotel room is private. So a secret camera in either place is illegal and a huge risk.

Even if a car is eventually deemed OK (and it may not be), do you want your face in a mugshot and on the news as the creep who secretly recorded sex acts while trying to convince the authorities that a car wasn't private enough to be covered by the law? You may avoid jail, but youll spend a fortune on lawyers and lose your friends and family and your job.

Only audio recordings are legal with just your own consent to recording your conversation. Even then, it could be illegal if it's over the phone or Internet depending on the circumstances.

I concur with this take, especially since most of these chicks have gladly let me get some take-home videos. Sometimes a stipulation is that I don't put their face on camera, which is fine, and sometimes they want to see every last second of what I recorded, which can be tedious, but it's still worth it! Would never do it without them knowing, though.

[FarFarAway]

Thanks for the reminder, just went and did my yearly STD test for all 9 of the biggies (HIV, Chlamydia, gonorrhea, HSV2 etc.)

If you want to get tested and make sure you are anonymous, here is what I did:

Go to https://www.tkqlhce.com/click-7796100-11648780 You can sign up under any name online, they send you paperwork under that name that you take to a local lab (labcorp) and on the paper work it tells the lab to not ask for ID. Lab send the results back to your account online for you to look at. I have done it a few times over the last few years and it is fast and easy and does not involve your doc or insurance at all. Totally private.

Same w / the site STDcheck.com. It costs like $149 for a full STD panel.

[DaRiv]

I would ignore this advice to secretly videotape sex. It is a felony in Georgia to secretly videotape another person in a private place. As far as I know, the courts haven't decided whether a car is private, but a home or hotel room is private. So a secret camera in either place is illegal and a huge risk. Even if a car is eventually deemed OK (and it may not be), do you want your face in a mugshot and on the news as the creep who secretly recorded sex acts while trying to convince the authorities that a car wasnt private enough to be covered by the law?

Only audio recordings are legal with just your own consent to recording your conversation. Even then, it could be illegal if it's over the phone or Internet depending on the circumstances.

I'm not trying to argue or debate the subject. But I will say that as long as you have signs on your home saying "you are being recorded". You have nothing to worry about from a legal standpoint. That's why whenever you walk into any business they have to have those stickers on the door etc. It's not your fault if people don't read the warnings. That's how private place is cover themselves legally. And this does not only apply to businesses or non moving structures. But don't believe me, always do your own research.

[NewAnonymousName]

First time on here in a little while. Bored and have a little time to kill so I thought I would do some light reading. I've been really busy with a rotation for a while. But I'm always on SDM, I gave up Seeking a long time ago because of all the scammers and ridiculous pricing. They've actually gone out of their way to make it easier for picture Sellers and scammers etc. And girls who don't ever plan to meet. If you have screenshot conversation of girls asking for that on SDM and report it. I've had them blocked\suspended\deleted within minutes.

Anyway long story short as I saw all of this and started laughing inside. I have pictures and videos and text to prove that I was here before this guy. He definitely got scammed a bit. It is true she does have ridiculously controlling parents and she had to sneak out of the house late at night to meet with me. We did the deed in the back of my suburban that I have set up very comfortably for situations like this. Yes she WAS a virgin. And she had actually been with one person before me according to her but they couldn't get the job done fully because she couldn't handle it. She's a cutter and has lots of marks all over her legs although she has stopped doing it according to her after therapy etc. She told me she wanted 1000 to give up the vCard. I opted for one tenth that price for a BJ and roaming and fingering etc. But I was able to convert it into the deed. All bare, and ridiculously slow going in the spoon position. It did take quite some time to get in, and even longer to get about 3\4 penetration for about 15 minutes before she wanted to tap out. I then told her to just give me 2 more minutes and got a little deeper "accidentally" with faster thrusts and the sounds she was making due to that made me pop almost immediately. Which I did inside and gave her a MAP and watched her take it on the drive back to drop her at her subdivision where she walked back home. I'm only 7. 5 but very girthy so It was a challenge. But I know it's still in very good shape because I couldn't do any real stretching. So as far as "inspecting her" to see if she was legitimate. I'm not sure what he thinks he was looking at as a Monger OBGYN. 😂.

Anyway this was in early February and I already would have seen her again if my schedule wasn't so ridiculous. Yes we are still in touch. And being that she has earned enough money to gain her independence I suspect there are some others being fleeced as well. I did give her another 2 totalling 3 because its all I had on me and I don't "have or trust" payment apps. And I typically never go over 250. But it was a good experience and I honestly did feel bad for her based on what she was telling me about her parents etcetera. And maybe I got suckered there, but I'm almost 100% sure if you wasn't lying about that. Only goes to show that you can be ridiculously over controlling as a parent, and they will still go out of their way to do things like this. I think it actually almost guarantees they will.

Either way I still hope to meet with her again but if I don't it will just be another one that got away like so many others. But I'll always be able to enjoy the pics and vids of the entire "date". As well as ones she sent to me. I have talked with several people here that have video setups of all different types. And if you guys don't have them with all the money you're spending on these girls. You're really doing it wrong. It's only a few hundred dollars to have "private" really good quality day or night time pictures and videos of all of your experiences.

Have fun!

I would ignore this advice to secretly videotape sex. It is a felony in Georgia to secretly videotape another person in a private place. As far as I know, the courts haven't decided whether a car is private, but a home or hotel room is private. So a secret camera in either place is illegal and a huge risk.

Even if a car is eventually deemed OK (and it may not be), do you want your face in a mugshot and on the news as the creep who secretly recorded sex acts while trying to convince the authorities that a car wasn't private enough to be covered by the law? You may avoid jail, but youll spend a fortune on lawyers and lose your friends and family and your job.

Only audio recordings are legal with just your own consent to recording your conversation. Even then, it could be illegal if it's over the phone or Internet depending on the circumstances.

[DaRiv]

Thanks for paying attention and yes she was fucked bareback. I only used a condom on my fingers because my nails hadn't been clipped in a few days and I didn't want to hurt her early on. As far as value, that's the most I've ever given to anyone for any thing and it seemed pretty special to me. She tasted absolutely amazing, too. I got a good follow-up message from her yesterday and she's deleted her SDM profile so at this point she's a UTR afaik. If she's open to be shared it would be later this year after she's left home and her controlling parents. Thanks for the support! I'm just sharing to keep hope alive that SA and SDM have value for finding UTRs and newbies.

First time on here in a little while. Bored and have a little time to kill so I thought I would do some light reading. I've been really busy with a rotation for a while. But I'm always on SDM, I gave up Seeking a long time ago because of all the scammers and ridiculous pricing. They've actually gone out of their way to make it easier for picture Sellers and scammers etc. And girls who don't ever plan to meet. If you have screenshot conversation of girls asking for that on SDM and report it. I've had them blocked\suspended\deleted within minutes.

Anyway long story short as I saw all of this and started laughing inside. I have pictures and videos and text to prove that I was here before this guy. He definitely got scammed a bit. It is true she does have ridiculously controlling parents and she had to sneak out of the house late at night to meet with me. We did the deed in the back of my suburban that I have set up very comfortably for situations like this. Yes she WAS a virgin. And she had actually been with one person before me according to her but they couldn't get the job done fully because she couldn't handle it. She's a cutter and has lots of marks all over her legs although she has stopped doing it according to her after therapy etc. She told me she wanted 1000 to give up the vCard. I opted for one tenth that price for a BJ and roaming and fingering etc. But I was able to convert it into the deed. All bare, and ridiculously slow going in the spoon position. It did take quite some time to get in, and even longer to get about 3\4 penetration for about 15 minutes before she wanted to tap out. I then told her to just give me 2 more minutes and got a little deeper "accidentally" with faster thrusts and the sounds she was making due to that made me pop almost immediately. Which I did inside and gave her a MAP and watched her take it on the drive back to drop her at her subdivision where she walked back home. I'm only 7. 5 but very girthy so It was a challenge. But I know it's still in very good shape because I couldn't do any real stretching. So as far as "inspecting her" to see if she was legitimate. I'm not sure what he thinks he was looking at as a Monger OBGYN. 😂.

Anyway this was in early February and I already would have seen her again if my schedule wasn't so ridiculous. Yes we are still in touch. And being that she has earned enough money to gain her independence I suspect there are some others being fleeced as well. I did give her another 2 totalling 3 because its all I had on me and I don't "have or trust" payment apps. And I typically never go over 250. But it was a good experience and I honestly did feel bad for her based on what she was telling me about her parents etcetera. And maybe I got suckered there, but I'm almost 100% sure if you wasn't lying about that. Only goes to show that you can be ridiculously over controlling as a parent, and they will still go out of their way to do things like this. I think it actually almost guarantees they will.

Either way I still hope to meet with her again but if I don't it will just be another one that got away like so many others. But I'll always be able to enjoy the pics and vids of the entire "date". As well as ones she sent to me. I have talked with several people here that have video setups of all different types. And if you guys don't have them with all the money you're spending on these girls. You're really doing it wrong. It's only a few hundred dollars to have "private" really good quality day or night time pictures and videos of all of your experiences.

Have fun!

[LogJammin18]

I have seen some very beautiful healthy looking women with HIV. I would ask about their testing, std history.

I think most people are honest but you need to trust your instinct. I will look to see for any needle marks or teeth issues.

Good hygiene usually tells me that odds are in my favor.

I won't do anything without a cover except a BJ.

Thanks for the reminder, just went and did my yearly STD test for all 9 of the biggies (HIV, Chlamydia, gonorrhea, HSV2 etc.)

If you want to get tested and make sure you are anonymous, here is what I did:

Go to https://www.tkqlhce.com/click-7796100-11648780 You can sign up under any name online, they send you paperwork under that name that you take to a local lab (labcorp) and on the paper work it tells the lab to not ask for ID. Lab send the results back to your account online for you to look at. I have done it a few times over the last few years and it is fast and easy and does not involve your doc or insurance at all. Totally private.

[FarFarAway]

That's odd. . . As an attorney he should've known the #1 rule when talking to LE is STFU AND DON'T SPEAK WITH THEM. Whether a short or any other kind of convo.

You are reading something I didn't write. While of course he knew / knows how to protect his constitutional rights, there right on the site were things he had posted. He could be taciturn in responding to inquiries from LE about those, but the mere fact that he had to have the discussion w / them, and the implied threat that carried, was quite chilling to him, as I am sure you can appreciate. So, your advice to him could be generalized to all of those stalwarts posting on this thread about young girls.

[TylerDurden07]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...b-97c216e85d56

"Spoil & worship" with nothing given in return. I avoided the temptation to message & ask what DOES she offer in return.

[TylerDurden07]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...c-a373b7f92535

"I'm not here to play games and I expect to be spoiled before we ever meet! Then I will make to time and pleasure for my SD! I know my worth and I won't change it. ".

I just copied & pasted 3 sentences. How many red flags can you count just in that short amount of verbiage?

[Verdit]

Gentlemen. You of course should discuss whatever topics you wish on this site, consistent with the terms of service (worth re-reading from time to time) - I would never ever discourage you from posting. Here is a cautionary tale though. A gent in Philly who is an atty was holding forth on these very topics (of quite young SBs) on their sugar thread. Somehow, this caught the attention of LE. They evidently tracked him down IRL (therefore, don't assume all posts here are completely anonymous) and had a conversation w / him concerning activities he personally might have been involved in. While he was never prosecuted, or charged, or anything, you can understand how this situation scared the bejeesus out of him. He is not active at all on this site or in the sugar world as a result, he views it as too high a risk.

Lead on McDuff.

That's odd. . . As an attorney he should've known the #1 rule when talking to LE is STFU AND DON'T SPEAK WITH THEM. Whether a short or any other kind of convo.

[AdmirerSecret]

Met her today, asking $1500 per month and she can meet 3 to 4 times.

She is 35 age. I pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...9-886543441725

[SoonerFan72]

Another vid and pic seller.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...e-d2c140cf9ac9

[LouisHernandez]

Geez, this is why you are on seeking and not bedpage. You are trying to get a little higher cut of woman who is not a pro and has nothing like that. No arrest record, no drug use, no guys 'managing' them. Just amateurs in need of some $ and a bit horny, who don't have that risk-taking gene.

Definitely a difference between sugar baby and professional wh-o-r.e. I'll happily deal with the higher flake rates and copious messaging than deal with getting a deadly disease, getting robbed, or even getting killed.

[AdmirerSecret]

Girls will have herpes if they give BJ bare you get it. Hsv2. Another fucking bad disease. People don't even know they have herpes or hsv2.

I have seen some very beautiful healthy looking women with HIV. I would ask about their testing, std history.

I think most people are honest but you need to trust your instinct. I will look to see for any needle marks or teeth issues.

Good hygiene usually tells me that odds are in my favor.

I won't do anything without a cover except a BJ.