"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[WillDuff]

I used a throwaway gmail account to sign up, and the code showed up in my "Promotions" tab.

I get them to, I have to hit "send again" and it shows up in my inbox in seconds. I use a proton. Mail account for the hobby. Decided to switch to phone text notification and same thing, hit "send again".

[VirgilToole]

I'm getting the same message but receive no email verification code in either regular or spam. Any ideas?

I used a throwaway gmail account to sign up, and the code showed up in my "Promotions" tab.

[GoneForGood97]

Even with all of the hassle, I'd put SA at the top of the list. I've barebacked over 30 hot UTR 20 somethings from the site.

I can see where you're coming from, and part of me kinda wants to, but the amount of effort SA girls require (on average) vs an agency or pornstar is why I put it lower. Yes, you can find a supermodel on SA, but she's still going to fuck you for close to that agency / high end pricing, but, at least in my experience, a lot more effort to flirt and text.

It's not a scientific scale, but the ranking is some combination of value relative to looks and effort. And of course there are outliers. One of my ATFs (Amber Luv for those that knew her) was a BP / LC girl. But I've only found quality like that 1 time in the sewer that is LC / STG. And this board is full of bad experiences from Eros / Tryst girls, so again, it's not an exact measurement, just an average expectation given my experience.

[SeekingHead]

I actually forgot about streetwalkers because I have less than zero interest in them, but they would be be at the bottom of the hoerarchy, below even LC girls. So yes, it would push everything in the hoerarchy up once we include them. And yeah, massage girls were an oversight as well, but I have seen and enjoyed them. Massage girls almost deserve their own category, because sometimes their service is worse than an LC girl (same attitude but no actual fucking), where as others I've had be better and more enjoyable than a decent Eros girl and do everything except FS. I also realized I didn't include agency girls, so I'll throw them in as well. Here's how I would update the list:

1) Streetwalkers.

2) Listcrawler / STG QV Girls.

3) AMPs & Indie Massage Girls.

4) Eros / tryst etc.

4.5) Strippers.

5) SA.

6) Agency girls.

7) High end & porn stars.

Even with all of the hassle, I'd put SA at the top of the list. I've barebacked over 30 hot UTR 20 somethings from the site.

[Magic Rat]

I'm seeing the same thing regarding two factor authentication, and like you I only view the site in an private window. Technically you could view the site on a normal window and it would likely put a cookie in your browsing history to confirm you've 2 factor authenticated and probably not force you to do it for 60 or 90 days, but I'd rather deal with the extra inconvenience than have it show up in my browser history.

I'm getting the same message but receive no email verification code in either regular or spam. Any ideas?

[GoneForGood97]

Excellent summary. This is a great description of the "Hoerarchy".

To make the list more comprehensive, would you lump streetwalkers with the listcrawler girls, or would you make a separate category for them? I've never hired a streetwalker or listcrawler girl, so I don't know if there's a difference in quality between them. Would streetwalkers be the new number 1, making listcrawler number 2 and moving everything else up, or would they be 1. 5?

Also, how would you list apartment massage / body rub girls? As another 2. 5? Many of them have the looks, cleanliness, and professionalism of an Eros / higher-end girl, but their services are more limited until you establish a repartee and trust with them.

And on the topic of massages, where should massage parlors fall on the list? I'm sure it varies by city, because looking around this forum, it seems that Texas and California have much better options in their parlors than we do here in Atlanta.

I actually forgot about streetwalkers because I have less than zero interest in them, but they would be be at the bottom of the hoerarchy, below even LC girls. So yes, it would push everything in the hoerarchy up once we include them. And yeah, massage girls were an oversight as well, but I have seen and enjoyed them. Massage girls almost deserve their own category, because sometimes their service is worse than an LC girl (same attitude but no actual fucking), where as others I've had be better and more enjoyable than a decent Eros girl and do everything except FS. I also realized I didn't include agency girls, so I'll throw them in as well. Here's how I would update the list:

1) Streetwalkers.

2) Listcrawler / STG QV Girls.

3) AMPs & Indie Massage Girls.

4) Eros / tryst etc.

4.5) Strippers.

5) SA.

6) Agency girls.

7) High end & porn stars.

[GoneForGood97]

I have not been banned; however, when I logged in today on an incognito Chrome window, the site required a verification code to be sent to the email address I registered with. I always use an incognito window on Chrome to access the site, and I have never before been required to enter a verification code.

Once I got into my account, I double-checked, and two-factor authentication has been turned off since I made the account, and it is still disabled.

I thought it might be because I tried to go to the site initially from a link in this thread, but after I cleared cookies, quit Chrome completely, and typed the URL (not a link to a member profile copied from here, but just the URL for the home page) directly into a new incognito window, it still required a verification code from my email.

So they're definitely increasing security. I'm not a computer guy, so I'm not sure if it's site-wide for all members or just for people whose accounts have been flagged as accessing the site from links on this forum. Thankfully, I let my premium membership lapse, but if I were currently a paying member, I would be a bit worried, because as far as I know, they don't offer refunds or a prorated subscription once you're banned.

I'm seeing the same thing regarding two factor authentication, and like you I only view the site in an private window. Technically you could view the site on a normal window and it would likely put a cookie in your browsing history to confirm you've 2 factor authenticated and probably not force you to do it for 60 or 90 days, but I'd rather deal with the extra inconvenience than have it show up in my browser history.

I've had my account going for almost 2 months and no issues regarding bans, but I never discuss anything related to $ or arrangements on the site, and I don't piss the girls off if I think they are being dumb or scamming. Just block and move on. I have a sneaking suspicion people who get blocked a lot are either using payment methods that decline or are not being careful enough in their messages and talking too many details, or being rude when you discover a scammer. Keep in mind you can be banned for "excessive rudeness" so it's not worth the hassle to chew some scammer or dumb girl out and lose your $100 for the month. Block and move on.

[BadNewsBear]

Any of you guys have info or experience with this woman. She goes by Brainsbeauty 13, she's definitely DTF, told me she wants 300 for fun. I may toftt, she really ain't my type but sometimes you have to try something different, she sent me a pic of here ass alot of cushion for someone who likes that.

[LDSlanger]

Its quite possible they are banning based on the referral from the web logs. They see you clicking the link on the forum and associate this site to your profile as your logged in on SA as well. To be more invisible you should copy and paste the links to a new window / tab.
*Tips up foil hat*

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_referer

I appreciate the advice. Really brother but I'm already banned LOL. Wondering if anyone knows of a better site? Sa has shitty service and clearly has ripped a lot of us off.

[VirgilToole]

I've personally decided there's a bit of a ho-e hierarchy. From bottom to top:

1) Listcrawler / STG QV Girls
2) Eros / tryst etc
2.5) Strippers
3) SA
4) High end & porn stars

Of course there are subcategories catering to specific fetishes but this is how I pretty broadly categorizes working girls.

Excellent summary. This is a great description of the "Hoerarchy".

To make the list more comprehensive, would you lump streetwalkers with the listcrawler girls, or would you make a separate category for them? I've never hired a streetwalker or listcrawler girl, so I don't know if there's a difference in quality between them. Would streetwalkers be the new number 1, making listcrawler number 2 and moving everything else up, or would they be 1. 5?

Also, how would you list apartment massage / body rub girls? As another 2. 5? Many of them have the looks, cleanliness, and professionalism of an Eros / higher-end girl, but their services are more limited until you establish a repartee and trust with them.

And on the topic of massages, where should massage parlors fall on the list? I'm sure it varies by city, because looking around this forum, it seems that Texas and California have much better options in their parlors than we do here in Atlanta.

[VirgilToole]

I have not been banned; however, when I logged in today on an incognito Chrome window, the site required a verification code to be sent to the email address I registered with. I always use an incognito window on Chrome to access the site, and I have never before been required to enter a verification code.

Once I got into my account, I double-checked, and two-factor authentication has been turned off since I made the account, and it is still disabled.

I thought it might be because I tried to go to the site initially from a link in this thread, but after I cleared cookies, quit Chrome completely, and typed the URL (not a link to a member profile copied from here, but just the URL for the home page) directly into a new incognito window, it still required a verification code from my email.

So they're definitely increasing security. I'm not a computer guy, so I'm not sure if it's site-wide for all members or just for people whose accounts have been flagged as accessing the site from links on this forum. Thankfully, I let my premium membership lapse, but if I were currently a paying member, I would be a bit worried, because as far as I know, they don't offer refunds or a prorated subscription once you're banned.

[GoneForGood97]

Anyone have any information on this one? The most I can do is create a temp account on SA they keep banning me when I put in my name and credit cards.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...5-32be546e8cdb

She's probably real, but I'm guessing a semi-pro or UTR, or one of those girls who believes everything she sees from TikTok influencers about the "sugar lifestyle. " If you have the budget she's probably fun, but she's going to want a high $ monthly or weekly allowance with gifts on top of it.

I've personally decided there's a bit of a ho-e hierarchy. From bottom to top:

1) Listcrawler / STG QV Girls: Used to be the $60 range, probably now $100 post COVID because reasons. Unreliable, you will waste a lot of time with no shows and flakes, so even though when you finally get a BJ for $80 it cost you more than that in wasted time and gas on the flakes. The very occasional diamond in the rough, these are druggies, usually pimped out, bad hygiene, and older / washed up girls. You get what you pay for, and the experience will be subpar, a lot of CBJ and the occasional BBJ. Arguably a fleshlight is better. I don't waste my time or money here anymore, but for a lot of guys, this is their bread and butter. Easy to get BBFS with a little effort and extra $ since they are desperate for their next fix, but you're quite literally playing with fire.

2) Eros / tryst etc: There are few "higher tier" sites, these are just 2. Used to be a lot of value here for around $200, but recently things here have gone up in price to minimum $300. Depending on the girl you're likely spending $300 - $500 for an hour. There is some real talent here, but a lot delusional girls who think just because they are hotter than the LC girls they can charge a premium and be a dead fish. Try to confirm in reviews here or somewhere else their menu. I do expect GFE in this tier (kissing, BBJ, multiple pops) but as guys "settle" for mediocre experiences it's becoming less and less common for a reasonable price point. This used to be where I focused my efforts. If you treat most of the girls here with just an ounce of respect I've found no-charge upgrades or extra time to be a non-issue, but as always YMMV. If you become a regular you will often end up BBFS as you develop trust.

2.5) Strippers: Stripper hotness varies but if you know what you like and don't settle you'll find what you're looking for. Also in the $300 - $500 range, but you'll almost always need to pay for a hotel room initially until they are comfortable hosting. Service skews GFE, but strippers are hustlers, and will always have their hand out. If you let them they will bleed you and string you along. As long as you're firm and dealing only in cash in person, you can avoid a lot of this. Strippers come with their own share of drama and flakiness. In my experience they are more flaky than the Eros / Tryst girls, but also don't normally have a clock going once their with you. If you have a little game, you can get into what Ozymandias once called the "hoe-network" and they'll introduce you to other girls they are friends with who need a little financial help, particularly towards the end of the month when rent comes due. I've always got BBJ when OTC, so that's my expectation, especially at this price range.

3) SA: Where I spend most of my effort. There is more time spent weeding out scammers and content sellers, but if you stay realistic with your expectations, you can have a damn good time for $150 - $200. Find the right girl, and you can get even better value. Patience is key, as most of these girls want to be charmed. You can occasionally find yourself smashing the same day you first text them, but expect to more often than not to flirt and talk via text for at least a couple of days, possibly longer. Of course, the upper limit on SA is infinite, so if you have the money you can smash super model quality on the regular, but I focus on the girl-next-door / single mom demo to get the most bang for my buck. In addition to the cash, you will oftentimes be paying for dinner / coffee and a hotel room until you get them comfortable enough to host, which may be never. Service is always GFE with the occasional semi-pro or UTR, but you learn to spot those pretty quickly. A good semi-pro girl on SA can be a good time, and I haven't had a single encounter where a CBJ was even thought about.

4) High end & porn stars: For the guys with executive salaries or maybe the rare special treat for yourself. You're looking at $500 on the low end up to $1500 or $2 K for a meet up, but things should be full GFE and if you have recent test results you can often times negotiate BBFS.

Of course there are subcategories catering to specific fetishes but this is how I pretty broadily categorizes working girls.

[HollowGuy]

Anyone have any information on this one? The most I can do is create a temp account on SA they keep banning me when I put in my name and credit cards.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...5-32be546e8cdb

[Machintosh]

No matter what, I just can't seem to search for babies by their profile names. Always recent with a no matches found message.

I've try various combinations.

Profile_name*.

Profile_name%.

%profile_name%.

*profile_name*.

What's the secret? What am I missing?

Profile names are not unique. The url is based on membership ID. The secret is Control / Command F. Now if only there's a away to show more results on the screen (huge hint).

[WoodstockShane]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...0-69c6d5c7e2ef

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...5-e2e7072b6c18

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...d-8880f963cfbc

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...1-3ac7a90ed84f

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...4-e05a467ae480

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...a-445d7a8942b2

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...7-16512e1ea090

So, your contribution here is to look at these ads and make fun of the posters because you don't find them attractive? What are we doing here? This doesn't help anyone.