"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Atlvoy]

Unless it's crystal clear, the first meet (or first few meets) are for a drink, late afternoon chat, etc. And those are never PPM.

During those times the ground rules get established and we go from there. After a time (depends a lot of the attitude of the SB) it's very possible to have PPMs that don't involve intimacy and, at the same time, meeting involving intimacy that are not PPM.

You'll know when you meet the right one.

DM.

DM,

Thanks for this! This was what I was asking for and generally assuming typically how it looks like.

Not saying that every meet needs to be intimate, but I also don't want to be suckered for PPMs indefinitely waiting on an answer for a maybe on intimacy (if that makes sense). A lot of people have been demanding paid meet and greets.

[Atlvoy]

Don't get sucked into paying for a meet & greet, I usually do lunch meetups as it's when I am normally free. Sushi or Taco's are the two most common lunch dates. If you can't pick up a $20 lunch then sugaring isn't for you.

Oh, not 20 $ lunch isn't the issue. My question is mainly people asking for more meet and greets? For example, let's say we go to Atlas and I cover the tab obviously. Then the conversation lately has been "I'd like to continue meeting and feel out if intimacy would be right for this (SB)" but would like to continue ppms until we get there. Usually never given a timeline and kinda odd to even ask for one in the first place.

Wondering if that's the norm?

And appreciate the response!

[Godwin1]

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...3-9b46b68021b2

Does anyone have info on this one (or pair, it seems)? If so, would you be willing to DM some contact info?

Thanks!

DM.

I met Blair, the blue haired one, once. There was a second girl on the profile with her just a week or so ago. One of the best BBJ I've ever had, so good I finished early and didn't get the chance to sample the pussy. She'll likely go to text right away and be easy to convince to meet. $250 for an hour but that was 3 years ago. She can be very business like if that's a big turnoff.

[SeekingHead]

Unless it's crystal clear, the first meet (or first few meets) are for a drink, late afternoon chat, etc. And those are never PPM.

During those times the ground rules get established and we go from there. After a time (depends a lot of the attitude of the SB) it's very possible to have PPMs that don't involve intimacy and, at the same time, meeting involving intimacy that are not PPM.

You'll know when you meet the right one.

DM.

Don't get sucked into paying for a meet & greet, I usually do lunch meetups as it's when I am normally free. Sushi or Taco's are the two most common lunch dates. If you can't pick up a $20 lunch then sugaring isn't for you.

[DiscreetMeet]

For those who go through ppms rather than allowances.

How do you navigate ppms? For example, if you have an SB that's open to intimacy but after some time of regular meets. What is the line that draws it for you?

For example, ppms are pay per meet, not PPF pay per fuck haha. So are you all just doing ppms to just splurge until they hopefully say they're ready? Or do you meet and start ppms after intimacy?

Unless it's crystal clear, the first meet (or first few meets) are for a drink, late afternoon chat, etc. And those are never PPM.

During those times the ground rules get established and we go from there. After a time (depends a lot of the attitude of the SB) it's very possible to have PPMs that don't involve intimacy and, at the same time, meeting involving intimacy that are not PPM.

You'll know when you meet the right one.

DM.

[Atlvoy]

For those who go through ppms rather than allowances.

How do you navigate ppms? For example, if you have an SB that's open to intimacy but after some time of regular meets. What is the line that draws it for you?

For example, ppms are pay per meet, not PPF pay per fuck haha. So are you all just doing ppms to just splurge until they hopefully say they're ready? Or do you meet and start ppms after intimacy?

[NewAnonymousName]

I obviously don't take things as serious as you do. Again you need to learn what sarcasm and satire is. Maybe if you understood levity you would understand the ridiculous behind people actually sending swat out to online gamers. And I don't watch names closely. I don't know if it was you or the other person that was arguing about the whole recording thing. It shows I just don't give a damn what other people think. Especially when they really don't know or understand what the law says.

And I wasn't going to say anything but I guess I will. Last weekend I had a maid service at my house cleaning. There were three women that came from the service. Cameras I have hidden in my room caught her stealing things from my bedroom. Including a 9 mm S&W I keep near my bedside. Really I should be blaming myself just as much for leaving it there like Private Pyle from Full metal jacket. But regardless of that, I called the police and showed them the video. She sitting in jail right now and she gave it back to them thinking that it would help her somehow. But it's not going to help her much being that she's here illegally on top of everything else. And it was perfectly legal for me to have those cameras in my bedroom aimed at my bed. And if I didn't have them there they wouldn't have done me any good. All I could do is be suspicious that one of them actually did it. At least detectives have copies of the video and they didn't even question why I had them in my room. They actually commended me for having so many cameras all over my house inside and outside. And said too many people don't. I really wanted to come here and be Petty and post it immediately after it happened showing that it was perfectly fine for me to do so. But I like to be the bigger person, which is obviously missed by quite a few people here in their character.

So call it whatever you want to call it and judge it however you want to judge it. Go ahead and assume whatever you like and try to judge people on a site like this with all of the other craziness that goes on 1,000 times worse than anything I've ever done. If this is your Hill to die on then go for it. I won't be replying to this anymore. I'm not trying to argue and debate over pettiness and what other people do. But it seems like a lot of you are last word freaks. So go ahead and post another comment and get it out of your system. Unless you're big enough not to. I guess we'll see.

What an amazing coincidence. Almost immediately after being shown the actual text of the criminal statute stating that what you're doing by secretly recording sex acts in the bedroom is illegal, you just happened to record a theft in the bedroom and the cops said it's great that you have cameras.

Even setting aside the absurdity of the "coincidental" chain of events, you're still missing the nuance in the statute. The exception to the general prohibition against recording in private spaces allows recording for security purposes, making those legal in certain circumstances: "(B) For an owner or occupier of real property to use for security purposes, crime prevention, or crime detection any device to observe, photograph, or record the activities of persons who are on the property or an approach thereto in areas where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy".

Does a cleaning person have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the bedroom while cleaning? I doubt it, and neither did the cops in your story. Does a woman have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the bedroom to not be filmed while engaging in sex acts? Yes, she does. In fact, a court specifically found a violation of this statute when a mistress recorded a married CEO having sex in the bedroom. Moreover, recording during the sex sessions is not for security purposes, crime prevention, or crime detection.

Jeez, it's like talking to a brick wall. I'm not telling you or anyone else not to do it. Other than a very narrow sliver of sugar relationships (dating with meals, gifts and trips, and not allowance or PPM), this whole forum is dedicated to discussing the joys of prostitution, which also is illegal. But for god's sake, stop trying to convince people it's legal when it plainly not legal under the criminal statute.

[Christian Troy]

I connected with these two Latinas on non-sugar dating apps and have sugar dates lined up. They both claim they've done this before but I've never seen them on any sugar sites (I did find their socials though). Anyone have any experience? I'll report back next week.

I had a session with the younger one. 300 ppm, dfk, bbj, cfs. She was skittish but settled down and was fun (she turned out to be 21 BTW, not 18). I'm trying to schedule with the older one because I like 'them milfy too.

BTW, the dating app I was using was Badoo. It's not very popular in the United States compared to tinder or bumble, but it's very popular internationally and very popular with immigrant populations. Yes, you have to wade through scammers that are on another continent, but there's a huge contingent of local Georgia girls as well.

However, most do not speak English so go ahead and download a translator app. Most are cool with the translation (and I think appreciate the effort). I'd say trying out the membership is worth it for the extra benefits (just be sure it doesn't auto-renew). Trust me when I say it is a Latina Gold Mine!

Sugaring in the wild is a trip! I think I found my new favorite hobby.

[Jims2321]

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...3-9b46b68021b2

Does anyone have info on this one (or pair, it seems)? If so, would you be willing to DM some contact info?

Thanks!

DM.

Guessing you might be missing an organ or two. But hey, you never know it might be the best time of your life!

[DiscreetMeet]

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...3-9b46b68021b2

Does anyone have info on this one (or pair, it seems)? If so, would you be willing to DM some contact info?

Thanks!

DM.

[Gatsby32]

You love to hear yourself talk, don't you?

I obviously don't take things as serious as you do. Again you need to learn what sarcasm and satire is. Maybe if you understood levity you would understand the ridiculous behind people actually sending swat out to online gamers. And I don't watch names closely. I don't know if it was you or the other person that was arguing about the whole recording thing. It shows I just don't give a damn what other people think. Especially when they really don't know or understand what the law says.

And I wasn't going to say anything but I guess I will. Last weekend I had a maid service at my house cleaning. There were three women that came from the service. Cameras I have hidden in my room caught her stealing things from my bedroom. Including a 9 mm S&W I keep near my bedside. Really I should be blaming myself just as much for leaving it there like Private Pyle from Full metal jacket. But regardless of that, I called the police and showed them the video. She sitting in jail right now and she gave it back to them thinking that it would help her somehow. But it's not going to help her much being that she's here illegally on top of everything else. And it was perfectly legal for me to have those cameras in my bedroom aimed at my bed. And if I didn't have them there they wouldn't have done me any good. All I could do is be suspicious that one of them actually did it. At least detectives have copies of the video and they didn't even question why I had them in my room. They actually commended me for having so many cameras all over my house inside and outside. And said too many people don't. I really wanted to come here and be Petty and post it immediately after it happened showing that it was perfectly fine for me to do so. But I like to be the bigger person, which is obviously missed by quite a few people here in their character.

So call it whatever you want to call it and judge it however you want to judge it. Go ahead and assume whatever you like and try to judge people on a site like this with all of the other craziness that goes on 1,000 times worse than anything I've ever done. If this is your Hill to die on then go for it. I won't be replying to this anymore. I'm not trying to argue and debate over pettiness and what other people do. But it seems like a lot of you are last word freaks. So go ahead and post another comment and get it out of your system. Unless you're big enough not to. I guess we'll see.

[KingFish34]

Okay, I thought the nonsense fight would end on it's on, but for some reason the postings keep coming. So, I am asking the moderator to please put a stop to it. It isn't on point of the thread so please just end it.

Thank you.

[DaRiv]

This is my first time replying to you. I was watching your conversation with the other guys about the recording the girls having sex with you issue and I was actually in agreement with you on some things about why to record but still thought you were in the wrong to record women having sex with you. You think it's ok to record women having sex with you but not ok to swat some asshole who robs some monger? Your mind is all over the place.

I obviously don't take things as serious as you do. Again you need to learn what sarcasm and satire is. Maybe if you understood levity you would understand the ridiculous behind people actually sending swat out to online gamers. And I don't watch names closely. I don't know if it was you or the other person that was arguing about the whole recording thing. It shows I just don't give a damn what other people think. Especially when they really don't know or understand what the law says.

And I wasn't going to say anything but I guess I will. Last weekend I had a maid service at my house cleaning. There were three women that came from the service. Cameras I have hidden in my room caught her stealing things from my bedroom. Including a 9 mm S&W I keep near my bedside. Really I should be blaming myself just as much for leaving it there like Private Pyle from Full metal jacket. But regardless of that, I called the police and showed them the video. She sitting in jail right now and she gave it back to them thinking that it would help her somehow. But it's not going to help her much being that she's here illegally on top of everything else. And it was perfectly legal for me to have those cameras in my bedroom aimed at my bed. And if I didn't have them there they wouldn't have done me any good. All I could do is be suspicious that one of them actually did it. At least detectives have copies of the video and they didn't even question why I had them in my room. They actually commended me for having so many cameras all over my house inside and outside. And said too many people don't. I really wanted to come here and be Petty and post it immediately after it happened showing that it was perfectly fine for me to do so. But I like to be the bigger person, which is obviously missed by quite a few people here in their character.

So call it whatever you want to call it and judge it however you want to judge it. Go ahead and assume whatever you like and try to judge people on a site like this with all of the other craziness that goes on 1,000 times worse than anything I've ever done. If this is your Hill to die on then go for it. I won't be replying to this anymore. I'm not trying to argue and debate over pettiness and what other people do. But it seems like a lot of you are last word freaks. So go ahead and post another comment and get it out of your system. Unless you're big enough not to. I guess we'll see.

[CookiesMan]

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...c-7b55c369799c

Has another page as well, name is just backward, but same girl. So try at own risk.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...7-a7fe71bc2948

Nice girl but a little immature. Couldn't decide on when she wanted to meet. Good with 300 ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...1-d6611d540402

Too many restrictions for me, doesn't like to talk / text much. Good with 300 ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...8-958c4e7c0012

From South Africa visiting till August. 350 ppm is her asking.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...1-f5672399fb03

Nice body. Works out. Trying to get her a car. Initially agree to 300 ppm, but then said she got a better offer. She called 2 days later and wanted to take me up my offer. Stand your ground men.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...2-35aa42f882fd

Still trying to figure her out, but is just a time waster for now. Says she needs help with finding a place and help with her kid, but always flakes. We have had good convo, but you guys can try your luck.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...a-3aaa6f103056

Young and vibrant. Open to anything and will stay overnight. Good with 300-350 ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...6-5fc0ce8d37c3

New to SB and freaked out on me out of the blue saying she thinks we may be cousins. LOL. Good with 300 ppm.

A lot nice ladies out there, so stick to your gunns and don't overpay or give in too something you don't feel good about. Enjoy!

[SteveStone123]

This profile was listed as Philly till yesterday night and today its changed to Atlanta. And the person texted me saying his / her profile name is sweetmizz and shared a picture which is no where matching with what she posted in profile. The scammer even don't know from what profile he / she is texting from.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...2-b406f50789f8