Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit

**JonHangcok** · 05-27-19 10:25

Originally Posted by FlickerFly07 [View Original Post]

Jesus, pretty detailed an account for simply saying "a provider took my condom off during sex. " Looks more like you wanted us to proofread your letter to Penthouse. Weird flex, bro, but okay.

If I needed a proofreader I wouldn't be coming on here for that. It was a unique experience that I thought was worth sharing on the board because I had never read any accounts or experiences on here quite like that. I thought context was needed for anyone reading who may not know the gravity of the situation I was in (sharing info is what this board is about) hence the lengthy writing. If "flexing" is all that you got out of that long ass post, well thats on you I guess. You missed the forest for the trees.

**BTBear** · 05-27-19 10:06

First of all E.M. is a provider centric site so this kind of behavior is not that uncommon. I feel that their stealing reviews is just another symptom of that bias. Post a good review from another site makes "their" women more desirable, increasing the woman's business and validating why the women need to be on E.M. to be successful.

USASG is the opposite, it is hobbyist centric. Men post all kinds of stuff about the women, but the women have no recourse to defend themselves without being lambasted about their post or labeled as having GPS.

There is no even ground. Other sites have men and women's only forums. In those men can post what they want openly. Women can discuss bad dates or warn other women about time wasters, unhygienic customers or just vent about BS posts about them.

One site that I use keeps the juicy part of reviews private to just to it's Senior male members. It allows for more truthful and informative posts. The women just see that they are or are not recommended. This site elevates men to their "Premium" level with reviews. That promotes the sharing of information and rewards those who post.

There is no perfect free escort site. I support all of them that are in my area of interest. That is all anyone can do. You just have to understand the limitations of their "personalities".

Originally Posted by ArtWater [View Original Post]

I have to redact my redaction. E. M. Deleted my review AGAIN, this time for "any review that slams or denigrates a provider, nor will we post reviews that contain such derogatory terms such as c**t, b* s**t or any other wording that we deem inappropriate or hurtful. " Really didn't put anything that harsh in it, certainly didn't use any derogatory language, it was simply a fair review, just a tad nicer than the one I posted here. It was fine for them before when they approved it, what suddenly changed? "Slams or denigrates" could loosely apply to any negative review. I've been exchanging emails with someone over there, I assume it's some kind of manager, he had said he thought my review was good. Nonetheless, someone there keeps deleting it, unless it's an automated kind of deal / button the provider can click on. He asked me to resubmit and said he would look into it. Not being bitchy or whiny about it, I'm just kind of curious about the process, and it's worth restating if it helps keep somebody else from getting scammed. Can't really afford to let this b. S. Fly on the high end, too much is lost without many places for reliable reviews, if we say this is ok then who knows what kinda crap they'll pull next. The way I see it, we pay for this not to happen, that's why it's high end.

On a separate but related note, I don't post or see as many high end reviews as I'd like to because there's always someone rolling their eyes over how much it is (read the thread topic, dude, if you don't like the topic, don't read it). I don't argue because A2 makes it generally clear that's not allowed, but it's discouraging. I and many others have our reasons for what we do, and I'm probably not going to spell it out for you because I talk too much as it is.

**ArtWater** · 05-27-19 09:15

I have to redact my redaction. E. M. Deleted my review AGAIN, this time for "any review that slams or denigrates a provider, nor will we post reviews that contain such derogatory terms such as c**t, b* s**t or any other wording that we deem inappropriate or hurtful. " Really didn't put anything that harsh in it, certainly didn't use any derogatory language, it was simply a fair review, just a tad nicer than the one I posted here. It was fine for them before when they approved it, what suddenly changed? "Slams or denigrates" could loosely apply to any negative review. I've been exchanging emails with someone over there, I assume it's some kind of manager, he had said he thought my review was good. Nonetheless, someone there keeps deleting it, unless it's an automated kind of deal / button the provider can click on. He asked me to resubmit and said he would look into it. Not being bitchy or whiny about it, I'm just kind of curious about the process, and it's worth restating if it helps keep somebody else from getting scammed. Can't really afford to let this b. S. Fly on the high end, too much is lost without many places for reliable reviews, if we say this is ok then who knows what kinda crap they'll pull next. The way I see it, we pay for this not to happen, that's why it's high end.

On a separate but related note, I don't post or see as many high end reviews as I'd like to because there's always someone rolling their eyes over how much it is (read the thread topic, dude, if you don't like the topic, don't read it). I don't argue because A2 makes it generally clear that's not allowed, but it's discouraging. I and many others have our reasons for what we do, and I'm probably not going to spell it out for you because I talk too much as it is.

**ArtWater** · 05-27-19 09:11

I have to redact my redaction. Them deleted my review AGAIN, this time for "any review that slams or denigrates a provider, nor will we post reviews that contain such derogatory terms such as ****, *****, **** or any other wording that we deem inappropriate or hurtful. " Really didn't put anything that harsh in it, certainly didn't use any derogatory language, it was simply a fair review, just a tad nicer than the one I posted here. It was fine for them before when they approved it, what suddenly changed? "Slams or denigrates" could loosely apply to any negative review. I've been exchanging emails with someone over there, I assume it's some kind of manager, he had said he thought my review was good. Nonetheless, someone there keeps deleting it, unless it's an automated kind of deal / button the provider can click on. He asked me to resubmit and said he would look into it. Not being bitchy or whiny about it, I'm just kind of curious about the process, and it's worth restating if it helps keep somebody else from getting scammed. Can't really afford to let this b. S. Fly on the high end, too much is lost without many places for reliable reviews, if we say this is ok then who knows what kinda crap they'll pull next. The way I see it, we pay for this not to happen, that's why it's high end.

On a separate but related note, I don't post or see as many high end reviews as I'd like to because there's always someone rolling their eyes over how much. I don't argue because A2 makes it generally clear that's not allowed, but it's discouraging. I and many others have our reasons for what we do, and I'm probably not going to spell it out for you because I talk too much as it is.

**FlickerFly07** · 05-23-19 13:08

Jesus, pretty detailed an account for simply saying "a provider took my condom off during sex. " Looks more like you wanted us to proofread your letter to Penthouse. Weird flex, bro, but okay.

Originally Posted by JonHangcok [View Original Post]

For starters, for those of you who don't know, non-consensual condom removal, or "stealthing", is the practice of one sex partner (usually the guy) covertly removing a condom, when sexual consent has only been given by the other sex partner for condom-protected safer sex. In other countries like the UK and Switzerland, men have been convicted for sexual assault and rape for doing this underhanded shit. The US doesn't have laws established specifically for stealthing, but it can be considered "rape adjacent" or akin to rape.

Now I myself would never stoop so low as to pull some underhanded shit like this with any woman be they a provider, or GF, wife, etc. I've busted condoms and had them come off while in the throes of passion before, I'm usually good about noticing these things, and I've always either stopped the engagement myself, or stopped when the woman noticed it before I did to re-up with a new condom before going at it again. So imagine my surprise when I find out a provider stealthed me.

To give some brief context to the encounter, we got right into it from the moment I shut the front door of her incall. At first I though she was just trying to give a PSE type of performance, but I soon realized that she was honestly really into it. We start to go at it right there in the living room. She puts the condom on me with her mouth and then immediately hops on it for some CG without me even having to ask. She rides for a while, hops off, takes the condom off and sucks me some more. She then says she wants to take it to the bedroom, so she leads me by the cock to her bed and I throw on another condom and we got at it some more. She wasn't a clock watcher at all. In fact during our session she asked me if MSOG was OK. I hadn't even busted my first nut yet and she's asking me for seconds already. Having a povider ask me this, hell actually wanting this was totally unheard of to me in all my time of being in this hobby.

To make a long story short, I've got her in K9 position face down-ass up and I'm going to pound town on her. She likes it hard, fast, and deep, so I'm complying to her wishes. She was doing this thing where she'd reach back underneath and play with my balls. I tell her to keep doing that because I'm liking it, so she complies. In hindsight I'm guessing that it was around this time that she was able to remove the condom while I'm plugging away at her pussy. After some time I bust one of the most intense nuts that I've had in a long time while "wearing a condom" (I thought it was still on at this point). The fact that I hadn't had any sexual activity in like 3 weeks was also a contributing factor. Now I don't cum often when wearing a condom, I have but its few and far between. Couple that with my endurance (I think I'm related to the Energizer rabbit), and I usually just have a provider BBBJ and jerk me to completion when I feel the session is getting too close to the end. So I thought it a welcome surprise when it happened. That welcome surprise turned to horror when I pulled out and saw there was no condom on me.

I said: "WTF!? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CONDOM? She just nonchalantly says: "Oh, I pulled that off a few minutes ago. " "I do that when I get really into it. " She then sticks a couple fingers in her pussy and pulls out the rubber. I'm dumbfounded and speechless at this point that she was just so matter of fact about it. She says something else that I'm not going to repeat publicly on this board (PM me if you just have to know what she said) but what she said just added to how carefree she was about it all. She gave absolutely 0 fucks. I mean I know I dropped a big load in her; and she's not afraid of possibly getting pregnant? The whole time that I'm cleaning up and we're talking I'm just thinking "WTF? I leave soon after.

So IMO I consider stealthing as a form of rape even if US law isn't totally clear about it. But lets keep it real, US law is completely ass backwards about a lot of things so it's no surprise it would be about this. So was I raped? Yes I believe I was, because it would definitely be considered rape if the roles were reversed. Now I don't feel like its your typical garden variety rape, she didn't overpower me and force me to fuck her. She didn't violate me in that way. It's more of a violation of trust, and a violation of one's well being. Because now I have to get checked out which I didn't really have to do because I'm pretty careful about these things (honestly if you're in this hobby you should be doing this regularly).

Anyway my bad for the wall of text. TL; DR: A provider pulled my condom off without my knowledge while we were fucking, effectively stealthing me. I ended up giving her a creampie. She gave 0 fucks about the whole thing, and now I have to go to a clinic and get checked out.

**Discreet614** · 05-20-19 14:11

Originally Posted by UberMonger [View Original Post]

Where does one go to get anonymous STD checks / treatment?

Can you post the girl's info or is she UTR?

5th and High Out of the Closet Thrift Store They provide some of the best information and STD checks. It's much better than going to the Franklin County health Department. I know you're thinking thrift store? But they operate the health clinic from the sales at the thrift shop as well as donations. Very professional very clean very good experience overall.

https://outofthecloset.org/testing/

**Member #6308** · 05-20-19 12:00

Originally Posted by JonHangcok [View Original Post]

honestly if you're in this hobby you should be doing this regularly).

Anyway my bad for the wall of text. TL; DR: A provider pulled my condom off without my knowledge while we were fucking, effectively stealthing me. I ended up giving her a creampie. She gave 0 fucks about the whole thing, and now I have to go to a clinic and get checked out.

Where does one go to get anonymous STD checks / treatment?

Can you post the girl's info or is she UTR?

**JonHangcok** · 05-20-19 10:33

For starters, for those of you who don't know, non-consensual condom removal, or "stealthing", is the practice of one sex partner (usually the guy) covertly removing a condom, when sexual consent has only been given by the other sex partner for condom-protected safer sex. In other countries like the UK and Switzerland, men have been convicted for sexual assault and rape for doing this underhanded shit. The US doesn't have laws established specifically for stealthing, but it can be considered "rape adjacent" or akin to rape.

Now I myself would never stoop so low as to pull some underhanded shit like this with any woman be they a provider, or GF, wife, etc. I've busted condoms and had them come off while in the throes of passion before, I'm usually good about noticing these things, and I've always either stopped the engagement myself, or stopped when the woman noticed it before I did to re-up with a new condom before going at it again. So imagine my surprise when I find out a provider stealthed me.

To give some brief context to the encounter, we got right into it from the moment I shut the front door of her incall. At first I though she was just trying to give a PSE type of performance, but I soon realized that she was honestly really into it. We start to go at it right there in the living room. She puts the condom on me with her mouth and then immediately hops on it for some CG without me even having to ask. She rides for a while, hops off, takes the condom off and sucks me some more. She then says she wants to take it to the bedroom, so she leads me by the cock to her bed and I throw on another condom and we got at it some more. She wasn't a clock watcher at all. In fact during our session she asked me if MSOG was OK. I hadn't even busted my first nut yet and she's asking me for seconds already. Having a povider ask me this, hell actually wanting this was totally unheard of to me in all my time of being in this hobby.

To make a long story short, I've got her in K9 position face down-ass up and I'm going to pound town on her. She likes it hard, fast, and deep, so I'm complying to her wishes. She was doing this thing where she'd reach back underneath and play with my balls. I tell her to keep doing that because I'm liking it, so she complies. In hindsight I'm guessing that it was around this time that she was able to remove the condom while I'm plugging away at her pussy. After some time I bust one of the most intense nuts that I've had in a long time while "wearing a condom" (I thought it was still on at this point). The fact that I hadn't had any sexual activity in like 3 weeks was also a contributing factor. Now I don't cum often when wearing a condom, I have but its few and far between. Couple that with my endurance (I think I'm related to the Energizer rabbit), and I usually just have a provider BBBJ and jerk me to completion when I feel the session is getting too close to the end. So I thought it a welcome surprise when it happened. That welcome surprise turned to horror when I pulled out and saw there was no condom on me.

I said: "WTF!? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CONDOM? She just nonchalantly says: "Oh, I pulled that off a few minutes ago. " "I do that when I get really into it. " She then sticks a couple fingers in her pussy and pulls out the rubber. I'm dumbfounded and speechless at this point that she was just so matter of fact about it. She says something else that I'm not going to repeat publicly on this board (PM me if you just have to know what she said) but what she said just added to how carefree she was about it all. She gave absolutely 0 fucks. I mean I know I dropped a big load in her; and she's not afraid of possibly getting pregnant? The whole time that I'm cleaning up and we're talking I'm just thinking "WTF? I leave soon after.

So IMO I consider stealthing as a form of rape even if US law isn't totally clear about it. But lets keep it real, US law is completely ass backwards about a lot of things so it's no surprise it would be about this. So was I raped? Yes I believe I was, because it would definitely be considered rape if the roles were reversed. Now I don't feel like its your typical garden variety rape, she didn't overpower me and force me to fuck her. She didn't violate me in that way. It's more of a violation of trust, and a violation of one's well being. Because now I have to get checked out which I didn't really have to do because I'm pretty careful about these things (honestly if you're in this hobby you should be doing this regularly).

Anyway my bad for the wall of text. TL; DR: A provider pulled my condom off without my knowledge while we were fucking, effectively stealthing me. I ended up giving her a creampie. She gave 0 fucks about the whole thing, and now I have to go to a clinic and get checked out.

**LiveMonger** · 03-30-19 12:11

Originally Posted by JizMan [View Original Post]

Here's the way to avoid all the scammers and not have to sift through all the out of town area codes: Just put 614 in the search box and only girls advertising with local numbers will appear. However, there will still some scammers among them, but it will narrow it down significantly.

I also search under 740 ac to get the ones from outside 614.

**Smutt2** · 03-29-19 18:48

Originally Posted by CBus1234 [View Original Post]

What's the deal with these girls placing ads saying they don't want money, just sex? I've seen quite a few lately. I'm assuming it's t set you up for a scam. Here is an example.

https://backpage.com.columbus.listcr...post/31251754/

Yes they are a scam. Just do an image search on the pix.

**JizMan** · 03-29-19 18:29

Originally Posted by CBus1234 [View Original Post]

What's the deal with these girls placing ads saying they don't want money, just sex? I've seen quite a few lately. I'm assuming it's t set you up for a scam. Here is an example.

https://backpage.com.columbus.listcr...post/31251754/

Here's the way to avoid all the scammers and not have to sift through all the out of town area codes: Just put 614 in the search box and only girls advertising with local numbers will appear. However, there will still some scammers among them, but it will narrow it down significantly.

**CBus1234** · 03-29-19 16:46

What's the deal with these girls placing ads saying they don't want money, just sex? I've seen quite a few lately. I'm assuming it's t set you up for a scam. Here is an example.

https://backpage.com.columbus.listcr...post/31251754/

**Mr Blue 314** · 03-21-19 17:35

I agree with you 100%. I've only posted on already reported on or the few ladies I have brought to the board (Kay was the last one) who really needed the cash. I had her permission to post and shared her number "off board" to trusted members.

Problem is then everyone started giving her number out like candy. So many white knights out there anymore that take offense when you say there girl doesn't work out of a drug house and or trap house.

Each of us have our opinions but to flat out call out an established member with many honest reports is just not in the "spirit of the board".

I call them like I see it. If they don't look like photo, are nasty, hair and hegine then it is what it is. Never see any white knighting on Blues reports. We each have our opinion as to what nasty is, what is a trap house.

If you (monger) think ya are special; forget it! These girls have a habbit and lay down, suck your dick for money. Plain and simple!

Ask you so called special girl to suck your dick for free and or half price. I bet 99.9% of the time they don't! Always an exception to the rule. Blue has had a few less than 5. Still have one in the stable that I can call and say I need some relief. She will gladly extend me some credit. But I treat her well and make it up to her later. Blue has even paid for a date and not actually had a date that night. Few and very far and few between.

Enough said.

Originally Posted by UsedToBeDoctor [View Original Post]

I don't post as much as I used to especially about certain unicorns. I had an OSU student and a female body builder whom I commented on and within hours of posting they called me bitching, don't blame them actually dropping me like I was the worst person in the world. I have NEVER shared with a provider what I have found here but some do. I don't know what you gain by telling them what you've seen but some do! I. That is all.

Usedtobedoctor.

**UsedToBeDoctor** · 03-21-19 14:23

Originally Posted by MrBlue314 [View Original Post]

First, this board is suppose to be about useful information. Let's get this out in the open! 99.9% of the gals have some form of habbit. They are not laying down with old guys for the fun of it. If they didn't have the habbit they wouldn't be sleeping with ya. Sure there is a unicorn or two out there. I personally haven't had q working girl that didn't have a habbit.

I like and I try my hardest to report my experience and in my opinion. We each have are own opinion has to what a trap house is, what a drug house is. To me they are pretty much similar. Some white knights out there get offended when you say there favorit girl doesn't look like her pics, didn't provide good service.

Your milage may very with all of these girls. Some guys like the 99 lbs spinner. Some guys like a little meat or shape to them. Some guys are okay with nasty hair, and hegiene. Some guys are okay with subpar service.

I have been mongering since 1990. I remember the newspaper days, pay phones and pagers. I want to know as much info as I can on any of the ladies. I report my opinions and my experiences truthfully. I have reported negativitelly on girls that had taken good care of me on previous dates.

I try and treat the ladies with respect but let's be realistic. They lay down with us for money. They want to get as much money as they can for the least amount of time and money. The biggest majority will cash and cash, steal and or steal from you if given the opportunity.

Let's stop the white knighting, taking offense because someone (weather or not senior or not senior)! I know what members and I share similar tastes to mine. I know what members are in my opinion not of similar taste to mine.

I love any and all information I can obtain. I'm not trying to be disreapectful to any of the working ladies. But let's call it what it is.

They have a habit, the sleep with many men for money. When and if they get clean they will not be laying down with any members here.

Stop whiteknighting each and every member is entitled to report as they see fit. Let's stop calling each other out. Report honestly and don't take a negative about what you think is your special lady. Again they wouldn't be laying down with ya if they had a job, a real life and didn't have a habbit.

In the last few months I have be assused of having pore eye sight, not liking a girl personally. First and formost I had my eye checked several weeks ago. I see 20 20 with my old glasses. I passed my eye tests with the bmv. I have be accused of not knowing what a trap house is. I know a trap a d or dope house is. What I consider is clean and beautiful is maybe not what someone else considers so.

Again, let's report what we experienced, get along, stop calling others out. It not negative about your white knights. Let's share good intelliagance and find some good pussy.

Thanks blue.

I don't post as much as I used to especially about certain unicorns. I had an OSU student and a female body builder whom I commented on and within hours of posting they called me bitching, don't blame them actually dropping me like I was the worst person in the world. I have NEVER shared with a provider what I have found here but some do. I don't know what you gain by telling them what you've seen but some do! I. That is all.

Usedtobedoctor.