Rants, Raves, and Stupid Tinfoil Hat Wearing Conspiracy Bullshit

[The Creature]

I have seen this if I had an ad blocker and cookie blocker. Loosen the settings for that site.

Any idea why all the listings on STG no longer show any actual content? The only thing showing up are three buttons:

Previous post, Post listing, and Next post.

Post listing just takes you to a list of all the posts for that provider but clicking on them just shows the three buttons.

[Wusher25]

Any idea why all the listings on STG no longer show any actual content? The only thing showing up are three buttons:

Previous post, Post listing, and Next post.

Post listing just takes you to a list of all the posts for that provider but clicking on them just shows the three buttons.

[Joe Looking]

Browsing skip the games I came upon this one. Not only is she a hooker that won't suck dick, she's one who charges you for condoms. That's like McDonalds telling you to bring a tupperware container or pay a fee for them to wrap the burger in paper they provide.

[Joe Looking]

Are people really giving these $$ $. 8 or $$ for a qv, $$$ for a hh. One post was $$ for an hr. I think we need to figure out a way to back to reality. I don't mind being generous for good service, but!

I didn't want to respond to the this on the escort thread because I think it doesn't belong there.

Tl; dr Yes some guys pay the high donations. I myself will give a counter offer 9/10 times and keep it moving if they say no.

No I don't pay 200 for qv. I have paid that for a hh and I've paid over 500 for an h before. In my experience most aren't worth that but sometimes I have the funds to "treat myself". What I've been doing lately is sending a text and if they respond I'll throw out my price. Often it's met with silence or them listing a higher price. In response I'm polite and humble. I usually thank them for their time (if it seems like the actual SW and not a screener) and say I'll try later if I have the money. Usually when I follow up it's at the same price. Often the second attempt is met with silence but sometimes if they I say 250/ h and they say I do 500/ h on the second attempt they'll say 250 for the hh and then I'll just stay the h or sometimes they'll drop from 500 to 350.

Last year I overpaid for a Colombian one and I had some performance issues. She told me that the way it works for them is that someone else pays for their room, does the screening and tells them where to go. In exchange they get a percentage and on a 3 month trip to the US they can make more on their backs for 2 months than they would doing the same work in Colombia for a year. She allegedly has no flex on the price since the booker set it and if they're caught seeing anyone on the side they'll be fired (I'm sure it happens though). She'd been to NY, Miami, LA, DC, some smaller cities and said she probably wouldn't come back to Raleigh.

One who did bite told me she came to Raleigh because her friend who charges 700/ hr made 1400 in 2 days while passing through on her way from Atlanta to DC. She took 300 for the hour because over her 2 days she'd had 5 customers contact her, 1 flaked and the rest ghosted after hearing she wanted 500/ hr. She essentially wanted the 300 to pay for the room and gas to the next city. She too said she didn't plan on coming back. She was nice but was clear on larger cities making her more. Apparently she does very well in Atlanta but doesn't like doing high volume.

I've also found that on tryst and to a degree eros, many of the non hispanic ones aren't even here. They are prebooking or asking for fly me to you. Some also want non refundable deposits and will only come if they hit a certain number of appointments.

So are guys paying the listed prices? Sure but I don't think it's large numbers of guys. You have to keep in mind that many women have means to get money beyond hooking so have the ability to see 1-3 guys per month at 700 each as the cherry on top. We're past the days where most SWs need customers every day so they have to charge more reasonable rates.

On the subject of fly me to you that's a huge simp play. Out of curiosity I've spoken with 4 different providers about it. In each case they told me that I would have to cover airfare, cover 1-5 days of 4 star hotels, give an uber budget and on top of that pay for any "time" I wanted with them (2/4 had a $700 minimum on the time I wanted to book with them). What do I get for that? Priority booking (in 3/4 cases the priority booking was only for their first day in town). I'm sure some guys do it but IMO it's not worth it.

[GWV90]

Without mentioning or referring to any post or person specifically, I often wonder who guys think they're fooling when they say they're only trying to help a provider out. Do these guys actually believe their own gaslighting? In the first place, these girls aren't asking for anyone's help (excepting the ones who text in the middle of the night seeking money). They're not looking for anyone's help. They know how to surround themselves with males who will give them what they want. These girls make the conscious choice, every day, to do what they do. Granted, times are tough and inflation is real but even the ugliest provider can make enough to take herself out of the game within a year. I know we're talking about very broken individuals with laundry list of emotional problems, but even so, for whatever reason, this is what they want to do. Or at least they're not willing to do what it takes to get out of the game.

A guy coming in and lavishing money on a provider is only looking out for himself under the guise of altruism. Maybe he think the money will make the provider like him better. Well, she'll like the extra money she didn't have to work harder for, that's true. Maybe those guys are hoping to make her dependent on all the money he's giving. That's my guess but I could be wrong. Maybe it's the ego boost of coming along and "saving" some poor, needy, waif. I don't know. Whatever it is, it's not genuine altruism. If any of us really wanted to help these girls we would stop enabling them with our money. Truly. We enable them every time we hand over a donation. Every time. Each payment is a justification to keep doing what they're doing. We're in this for ourselves just as these girls are in it for themselves and that's why this game works.

Truly helping someone is unconditional: you give it and whatever they chose to do with it is fine by you. But when your attitude is " I did all this for them and this is what I get?" then you weren't actually giving it unconditionally; you were expecting something in return.

"Great White Saviour" complex is a real thing, but it belongs in chivalry novels from the 16th Century. These girls don't need saving and they're not asking anyone to save them. So.

Guess what guys. If you do then a "favor" and they pay you back with a free session. It's not because you are friends. It's because she didn't what to pay someone else to do it. The "I am friends with someone I pay to have sex with me is comical. But what ever makes you feel less like a simp.

[ScottiePimp]

No one can be this naive, can they?

I 100% believe this guy. I honestly think most guys are like him, which is why most shouldn't be in this hobby. A lot of men want to take care of these women and end up basically falling in love with them. They want to "save them" if you will. And this guy was / is well on his way down that dead end road.

[DbbClassy2]

Without mentioning or referring to any post or person specifically, I often wonder who guys think they're fooling when they say they're only trying to help a provider out. Do these guys actually believe their own gaslighting? In the first place, these girls aren't asking for anyone's help (excepting the ones who text in the middle of the night seeking money). They're not looking for anyone's help. They know how to surround themselves with males who will give them what they want. These girls make the conscious choice, every day, to do what they do. Granted, times are tough and inflation is real but even the ugliest provider can make enough to take herself out of the game within a year. I know we're talking about very broken individuals with laundry list of emotional problems, but even so, for whatever reason, this is what they want to do. Or at least they're not willing to do what it takes to get out of the game.

A guy coming in and lavishing money on a provider is only looking out for himself under the guise of altruism. Maybe he think the money will make the provider like him better. Well, she'll like the extra money she didn't have to work harder for, that's true. Maybe those guys are hoping to make her dependent on all the money he's giving. That's my guess but I could be wrong. Maybe it's the ego boost of coming along and "saving" some poor, needy, waif. I don't know. Whatever it is, it's not genuine altruism. If any of us really wanted to help these girls we would stop enabling them with our money. Truly. We enable them every time we hand over a donation. Every time. Each payment is a justification to keep doing what they're doing. We're in this for ourselves just as these girls are in it for themselves and that's why this game works.

Truly helping someone is unconditional: you give it and whatever they chose to do with it is fine by you. But when your attitude is " I did all this for them and this is what I get?" then you weren't actually giving it unconditionally; you were expecting something in return.

"Great White Saviour" complex is a real thing, but it belongs in chivalry novels from the 16th Century. These girls don't need saving and they're not asking anyone to save them. So.

[Big Bob Nc]

No one can be this naive, can they?

Yes they can especially when they are thinking with the little head or they have more money than brains. Which screws it up for those of us that don't have deep pockets.

[PleasureSeeker]

Do you have a specific question?

Or did you just wanted to spout off and be holier than thou. While hiding in anonymity.

I'm in a discussion with her right now.

She saw it a different way and I'm trying to retract my post.

I've gotten reprimanded by Admin here for saying less and being less combative, so not sure what's up with that, but he's not wrong. Dude, you spent 360 and were willing to give her another 140 after she played you like none of us have ever seen or heard of before. It is truly naïve and this board is here to give you some contextual perspective on how to manage this endeavor of ours. You paid a ridiculous amount, and never balked at her clear signs of grifting you. What's worse is it gives aid and comfort to the enemy, which are scammers liker her. And that makes the hobby more difficult for everyone. You may be a likeable, handsome guy, but that was a painful cash grab, and hard to even read. PM me if you want any pointers.

[BoJones]

No one can be this naive, can they?

Do you have a specific question?

Or did you just wanted to spout off and be holier than thou. While hiding in anonymity.

I'm in a discussion with her right now.

She saw it a different way and I'm trying to retract my post.

[Pdiddy71]

No one can be this naive, can they?

Hello,

Earlier I wrote a review about Cassie and left out the details. I only mentioned that she was young and inexperienced, but has an amazing body. Since a couple of people have DMd me about Cassie, I've decided to share the details of my date. I found here on USASG after a poster added her link and said 200 roses was too much for a QV. Her initial ads were on LC and Sumosear.

I showed up on time, she put me off for 20 minutes. By says she was finishing a client. I'd never experienced that, so it was kind of weird sitting there thinking that I'm going to see the guy coming out of the hotel and pass me. Then, she still needed more time after that, so I drove off. Got about 30 minutes away and she called on the phone. Said the door handle on her room broke and pushed her schedule back.

And I said, what the hell, so I turned around and went back. Got started over an hour late.

I walk in and it starts out awkward. I put the donation on the TV stand, but she still asked for it. So I picked it up and handed it to her and she started counting my 20's.

She asked for 300 roses, I gave 360. Trying to help a young girl out w some extra cash, I try to be generous only because I can, and she thanked me for it.

Then, more awkward standing around. Finally she hands me a condom and says put it on, her super long fake finger nails won't work. No problem. We go straight to CG (no BJ for warm up) and it went in after a few seconds of looking at her hot body. Went CG for a little while, then I suggest Doggie. After only a minute of that, she says she's it hurts.

She jumped up and went to the bathroom, came back and said she's bleeding. Talk about a mood killer. I asked if she's on her period, she said no.

Now mind you, I'm 6. 5 inches and a little thick. But jeez, I'm no John 'The Wad' Holmes. We tried doggie a little more and she had to stop from the discomfort and the fear of more bleeding.

I laid down on the bed, she used her hand for a while w the condom still on while my wanker shriveled. I never got off. Talked for a while, I was sympathetic with her troubles and I left. But heck, I was the one that's out $360 for the crappiest experience ever. And no nut.

But, I figured she was a diamond in the rough and just needed experience.

She later texted asking for reviews and I tried the positive approach here and an TER. She then asked me for $140 to help her get an Eros ad. I actually agreed, but she couldn't accept PayPal.

She's a sweet girl. I scheduled her again and planned on giving her some tips about client care, but she ghosted me after my hour and 20 min drive to arrive right on time!

I'm I'd already done so much for the girl and had genuine intentions of trying to help her out, but not now. I'm a 55 year old White, male professional. I've been told that I'm handsome almost every time. As far as what escorts desire in a client, I've been told that I'm in the sweet spot. I'm Midwest raised, respectful, kind and courteous. I'm flabbergasted that she ghosted me. I guess I'm too big and gave her problems. Maybe she'll tell you. Maybe she only wants younger guys, I have no idea. I saw her new Eros ad, so she wasn't lying when she asked for $140.

Anyway, I wish her the best. YMMV.

[AmpHunter69]

That's too far.

Quote Originally Posted by WaterLynn.

I feel bad saying this but she is exceptionally ugly. Meth rotten teeth, dark crooked missing etc, don't think she is actually on metho now or ever but that's the best way to describe them, and her face is just exceptionally unattractive. Fake body, which is the best thing about her. Her attitude is good but you're going to have to use your imagination so much to imagine a different face on her plastic body that you might as well use your hand or a blow up doll.

From KillDatAss4479

She is not a looker. She is below average in the face. But Angi is definitely not "exceptionally ugly". Also. Everyone has already commented that she has a great natural body. Not sure who you are reviewing.

[AmpHunter69]

Yeah I basically haven't seen anyone good since moving here a couple years ago. I've lived places and countries where this site isn't used much before that so I made this account after moving here. I saw a couple decent latinas last year but they were unreviewed and left after a day or two and say they aren't coming back. Other than that nothing good at all. I lived here back in the early 2010's and things were better then. I was Babys very first client. Couldn't remember my username which is why I made this one after moving back here.

So where are all of these good places? I need to do some traveling.

[WaterLynn]

So if I understand this correctly, The reason you have 5 pages of post, mostly questions and are critical of other users reviews, is because all of the "normal" providers you see are in areas where this forum is not used. Is that correct?

Yeah I basically haven't seen anyone good since moving here a couple years ago. I've lived places and countries where this site isn't used much before that so I made this account after moving here. I saw a couple decent latinas last year but they were unreviewed and left after a day or two and say they aren't coming back. Other than that nothing good at all. I lived here back in the early 2010's and things were better then. I was Babys very first client. Couldn't remember my username which is why I made this one after moving back here.

[Buttes4321]

So if I understand this correctly, The reason you have 5 pages of post, mostly questions and are critical of other users reviews, is because all of the "normal" providers you see are in areas where this forum is not used. Is that correct?

They'd rather post criticisms (without they themselves actually seeing people in the area) than contribute positively.