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  1. #1804

    GFE Begins and Ends at the door.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tawayem  [View Original Post]
    Since the debate about prices has risen again, I think most people focusing only on the price are not looking at the full picture. There are some people for whom seeing an escort is just a matter of getting their rocks off. They either have no need or want of a connection. The proverbial GFE. They want to get their dick sucked, and then they want to get off and that's it. These are the people who will more often than not say that 'no pussy is worth X'. The X varies for everyone. For some, it's no more worth than 60 or 80, or 100, and they're willing to take the risk of druggies, shady motels, uncles etc. These are usually the ones who'll just opt for a QV. Get in, get off, get out.

    For some others, they don't just want a hole to put their dick into. They want some sort of a connection. They want to talk to someone, they want to kiss someone, and in some cases, also reciprocate and perform oral on the providers. Regardless of your views on whether it's gross or not to perform oral on a provider, I hope you'll agree that all of this comes at a cost. GFE comes at a cost. LFK / DFK, BBBJ, DATY which are the starting features of GFE come at a cost. Being demon-free comes at a cost. Being in a safe location comes at a cost. You can't expect a Samara or a Fiona to provide in an extended stay on Capital or New Bern. That's just asking for trouble.

    I invite you to browse different escort sites and see if you can find a GFE provider (a provider with an ad / website / P411 etc) under 300/ hr in Raleigh, today. We recently saw 2 UTRs being introduced and their starting prices are 250/ hr. What happens once they become popular? Raising prices doesn't only mean GPS. It could also mean that providers are simply being contacted by way too many people, and raising prices reduces the effort they have to put in, because now less people will be contacting them. My personal limit is 400, and I've seen Fiona Ender at 400. But I've been priced out now, and thankfully I've found another great GFE within my price range whom I enjoy seeing.

    I am not denying that the popularity can get to their heads, and I'm not denying that Tryst and Eros are often avenues where providers upcharge. Easiest example is xxAJ. I saw her post on STG for BJs at 80, yet at Tryst she's advertising 120. You want to call that GPS, go right ahead, I ain't stopping you. But there are providers who only post on Tryst, and there are providers who only post on STG. And more often than not, they're completely different types.

    By all means call out providers who do what AJ did and charge different prices based on where they post. But please recognize that no one's paying 600 for Alexxa Nicole. They're paying 600 (if they are) for a demon free, safe, sophisticated provider who can actually hold a conversation and provide a completely different experience.
    Sadly or maybe funny that most that feel they have a connection are just simping to a professional whose job it is to manipulate men. A lunch, extra 15 minutes, cute smile and a comment to make you feel good. Next thing you know you are buying gifts, paying bills, being on call if they need anything. Cigarettes, a ride or even money. The connection one might feel is not reciprocated. It's ok to have a fantasy relationship with a provider. Just don't get heart broken when she tires of you or can no longer get what she wants out of you. And no, it's not a connection, it's a job.

  2. #1803

    Different Things

    Since the debate about prices has risen again, I think most people focusing only on the price are not looking at the full picture. There are some people for whom seeing an escort is just a matter of getting their rocks off. They either have no need or want of a connection. The proverbial GFE. They want to get their dick sucked, and then they want to get off and that's it. These are the people who will more often than not say that 'no pussy is worth X'. The X varies for everyone. For some, it's no more worth than 60 or 80, or 100, and they're willing to take the risk of druggies, shady motels, uncles etc. These are usually the ones who'll just opt for a QV. Get in, get off, get out.

    For some others, they don't just want a hole to put their dick into. They want some sort of a connection. They want to talk to someone, they want to kiss someone, and in some cases, also reciprocate and perform oral on the providers. Regardless of your views on whether it's gross or not to perform oral on a provider, I hope you'll agree that all of this comes at a cost. GFE comes at a cost. LFK / DFK, BBBJ, DATY which are the starting features of GFE come at a cost. Being demon-free comes at a cost. Being in a safe location comes at a cost. You can't expect a Samara or a Fiona to provide in an extended stay on Capital or New Bern. That's just asking for trouble.

    I invite you to browse different escort sites and see if you can find a GFE provider (a provider with an ad / website / P411 etc) under 300/ hr in Raleigh, today. We recently saw 2 UTRs being introduced and their starting prices are 250/ hr. What happens once they become popular? Raising prices doesn't only mean GPS. It could also mean that providers are simply being contacted by way too many people, and raising prices reduces the effort they have to put in, because now less people will be contacting them. My personal limit is 400, and I've seen Fiona Ender at 400. But I've been priced out now, and thankfully I've found another great GFE within my price range whom I enjoy seeing.

    I am not denying that the popularity can get to their heads, and I'm not denying that Tryst and Eros are often avenues where providers upcharge. Easiest example is xxAJ. I saw her post on STG for BJs at 80, yet at Tryst she's advertising 120. You want to call that GPS, go right ahead, I ain't stopping you. But there are providers who only post on Tryst, and there are providers who only post on STG. And more often than not, they're completely different types.

    By all means call out providers who do what AJ did and charge different prices based on where they post. But please recognize that no one's paying 600 for Alexxa Nicole. They're paying 600 (if they are) for a demon free, safe, sophisticated provider who can actually hold a conversation and provide a completely different experience.

  3. #1802

    Re: I wanted to comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Admin2  [View Original Post]
    On the way to getting my MM (Master Monger) certificate I've run into a few ladies that are truly professional but they are really rare.

    A2.
    Let me respond again in a less argumentative way that will hopefully result in some more discussion. You said that you've run into a few truly professional ladies. Can you provide any more detail on how you found and selected these few professionals compared to the bulk of the rest of your encounters? I'd have to say that with the selection method that I use and have already described, nearly every one of the ladies that I've met came across as professional -- definitely some more than others. Since they are going through the work to build a professional looking website and market themselves through multiple channels on the web, they are definitely thinking of this as a business of providing a service, and not just a way to get by.

  4. #1801

    Sorry to See It Go

    Quote Originally Posted by Admin2  [View Original Post]
    But I didn't want to throw more garbage on the floor of the review thread so I moved it here.

    On the way to getting my MM (Master Monger) certificate I've run into a few ladies that are truly professional but they are really rare. A good buddy of mine used to say "chicks that make good decisions don't end up sucking cock for a living. " While that's not entirely true, some young ladies figure out that sucking dicks for 5-10 years is a great way out of poverty the vast majority are doing it because they have no skills and lack capacity to come up with a better way of making a living.

    A2.
    That thread was one of the more interesting discussions I've read on here--SW Economics 101. Very thought-provoking points on both sides.

  5. #1800

    Re: I wanted to comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Admin2  [View Original Post]
    But I didn't want to throw more garbage on the floor of the review thread so I moved it here.

    On the way to getting my MM (Master Monger) certificate I've run into a few ladies that are truly professional but they are really rare. A good buddy of mine used to say "chicks that make good decisions don't end up sucking cock for a living. " While that's not entirely true, some young ladies figure out that sucking dicks for 5-10 years is a great way out of poverty the vast majority are doing it because they have no skills and lack capacity to come up with a better way of making a living.

    A2.
    Ok, mister Master Monger. Care to share some tips and techniques for how you go about finding safe, inexpensive, and at least average or better looking / fitness providers that are in decent locations and don't have demons or somebody helping them run a scam?

    Edit: Sorry... I didn't mean for that to come across as belligerent or challenging. If there are ways to find good providers without going my route which leads to much higher priced providers, I'd love to hear about it.

  6. #1799
    Administrator


    Posts: 4927

    I wanted to comment

    Quote Originally Posted by IWonder  [View Original Post]
    I'm not looking for sugar babies. I'm looking for quality providers that treat this as a business and are interested in providing quality services. I'm also looking to completely avoid the drama and threats to my health and safety that some other members seem willing to accept.
    But I didn't want to throw more garbage on the floor of the review thread so I moved it here.

    On the way to getting my MM (Master Monger) certificate I've run into a few ladies that are truly professional but they are really rare. A good buddy of mine used to say "chicks that make good decisions don't end up sucking cock for a living. " While that's not entirely true, some young ladies figure out that sucking dicks for 5-10 years is a great way out of poverty the vast majority are doing it because they have no skills and lack capacity to come up with a better way of making a living.

    A2.

  7. #1798
    Administrator


    Posts: 4927

    I wanted to comment

    Quote Originally Posted by IWonder  [View Original Post]
    I'm not looking for sugar babies. I'm looking for quality providers that treat this as a business and are interested in providing quality services. I'm also looking to completely avoid the drama and threats to my health and safety that some other members seem willing to accept.
    But I didn't want to throw more garbage on the floor of the review thread so I moved it here.

    On the way to getting my MM (Master Monger) certificate I've run into a few ladies that are truly professional but they are really rare. A good buddy of mine used to say "chicks that make good decisions don't end up sucking cock for a living. " While that's not entirely true, some young ladies figure out that sucking dicks for 5-10 years is a great way out of poverty the vast majority are doing it because they have no skills and lack capacity to come up with a better way of making a living.

    A2.

  8. #1797
    Quote Originally Posted by TimsTime  [View Original Post]
    You should be in the sugar baby etc forum further down. This is for Walmart shoppers. LOL.
    I'm not looking for sugar babies. I'm looking for quality providers that treat this as a business and are interested in providing quality services. I'm also looking to completely avoid the drama and threats to my health and safety that some other members seem willing to accept.

  9. #1796

    Seems like a Bot

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeFaller26  [View Original Post]
    Looks the the ad is gone. Left phone number uncovered on purpose. Text convo just seemed so weird. Not stressing since I didn't say or do anything incriminating. Just weird. Am I tripping?
    It might be a bot based on the text. If you suspect it was a cop I suggest dropping that burner number and getting a new one.

  10. #1795

    Re: I think I talked to an undercover

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeFaller26  [View Original Post]
    Looks the the ad is gone. Left phone number uncovered on purpose. Text convo just seemed so weird. Not stressing since I didn't say or do anything incriminating. Just weird. Am I tripping?
    According to Mr. Number, that number is flagged as Suspected Spam with a user comment saying "fraud".

  11. #1794

    Ad

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeFaller26  [View Original Post]
    Looks the the ad is gone. Left phone number uncovered on purpose. Text convo just seemed so weird. Not stressing since I didn't say or do anything incriminating. Just weird. Am I tripping?
    Do you the ad she used?

  12. #1793

    Give away

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeFaller26  [View Original Post]
    Looks the the ad is gone. Left phone number uncovered on purpose. Text convo just seemed so weird. Not stressing since I didn't say or do anything incriminating. Just weird. Am I tripping?
    Totally thought you was tripping until I read the text. This is exactly what an undercover would do, a new one but definitely sounds like a cop. Asking you to say in detail what you were looking for is the give away. Asking if you're law enforcement means nothing. Did the poster have naked pics?

  13. #1792

    I think I talked to an undercover

    Looks the the ad is gone. Left phone number uncovered on purpose. Text convo just seemed so weird. Not stressing since I didn't say or do anything incriminating. Just weird. Am I tripping?
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  14. #1791
    Quote Originally Posted by Dpepsi  [View Original Post]
    Wow, if she's on STG now I'd say she's getting desperate and / or has an emerging demon problem. Like others, I enjoyed her a while ago but too much chaos surrounding that now.
    Eh, I don't think it's demons. Personally I think she dislikes what she does, but needs money to support her lifestyle. Like others have stated, I've been hit up for money too, but thankfully no tirade when I declined.

  15. #1790

    Back shots

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeLooking  [View Original Post]
    Browsing skip the games I came upon this one. Not only is she a hooker that won't suck dick, she's one who charges you for condoms. That's like McDonalds telling you to bring a tupperware container or pay a fee for them to wrap the burger in paper they provide.
    And if it's the same chick light skin sometimes she only offer "BackShot" specials. Meaning back shots only.

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