Rants, Raves, and Stupid Tinfoil Hat Wearing Conspiracy Bullshit

**MrFrankRicard** · 01-24-24 18:25

Not sure what the fallout will be but I guarantee they are pouring through phones right now. Hopefully everyone uses burners or text apps. Stay safe.

https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/ma...MCG7D6P2CQMFE/

**LifeLine** · 01-23-24 09:13

Originally Posted by JocoGuy007 [View Original Post]

The donation, I send it via Cashapp to her "Brother" she called a woman on the phone and got the cashapp name. The donation was $160.

After all the above. BB missionary that I don't even pop to, I just stroked until I was almost done and last few pumps filled her up. She cleans up in the bathroom then I walk her out. During the visit it was very clear she was heavy into her demons. The add is a flat out lie. No Drama, No Disrespect? Both where apparent.

So she's gone now and I go to cashapp and ask for a refund due to fraud and "I didn't have my phone in my possession at the time" The mid morning of this visit I get an email from cashapp "Your money has been refunded" So I got a victory for all of us. I got my money back. My sacrifice to save all of us fellow hobbyist.

Providers talk and they will share information. I can see this person potentially getting caught if this happens a few more times. I'd advise to never use cashapp or any electronic transactions for this hobby. It leaves too much of an electronic trail.

**LifeLine** · 01-23-24 09:10

The only way I've found to get better / lower rates is to get to know the provider, especially if you plan on seeing that one repeatedly. Expect to pay their normal rate for several sessions until they are comfortable with you. They want to be treated like a person too, and the more you get to know them the less guarded they become. For me, the ones that I've been able to get under market rates are ones that I've seen a few times and spend time talking with at some point. This does not work with all providers (nor do I expect that to happen), but when it does I don't feel like I have to save up to have some fun.

**OneStarter** · 01-22-24 14:15

Originally Posted by JoeLooking [View Original Post]

I'd be pretty careful doing this. Cash app is supposed to start cracking down bigly on fraud, laundering and what not. So you reporting that might in the future trigger something you want no parts of. It's been a while since I signed up but at a certain point I had to go through some account verification steps to connect cash app to my bank account. That means they know who I really am so it's not a huge leap to think that if you reports someone for fraud, cash app might have a responsibility to disclose your real identity to that person.

I agree with you. Not something I would have done. If you agree on a service and the service is finally performed then the agreement was fulfilled. The annoyance of all the waiting and other discussions are just things that lead to an experience you wouldn't repeat and report to other mongers to avoid.

**Joe Looking** · 01-22-24 10:35

Originally Posted by JocoGuy007 [View Original Post]

The donation, I send it via Cashapp to her "Brother" she called a woman on the phone and got the cashapp name. The donation was $160.

After all the above. BB missionary that I don't even pop to, I just stroked until I was almost done and last few pumps filled her up. She cleans up in the bathroom then I walk her out. During the visit it was very clear she was heavy into her demons. The add is a flat out lie. No Drama, No Disrespect? Both where apparent.

So she's gone now and I go to cashapp and ask for a refund due to fraud and "I didn't have my phone in my possession at the time" The mid morning of this visit I get an email from cashapp "Your money has been refunded" So I got a victory for all of us. I got my money back. My sacrifice to save all of us fellow hobbyist.

I'd be pretty careful doing this. Cash app is supposed to start cracking down bigly on fraud, laundering and what not. So you reporting that might in the future trigger something you want no parts of. It's been a while since I signed up but at a certain point I had to go through some account verification steps to connect cash app to my bank account. That means they know who I really am so it's not a huge leap to think that if you reports someone for fraud, cash app might have a responsibility to disclose your real identity to that person.

**SeekingRdu** · 01-22-24 10:34

If you have sex with someone for an agreed amount, then no matter how bad it is, as long as they delivered, you should pay the amount agreed. And then just never repeat if you didn't enjoy.

Stealing from someone who has delivered their side of the bargain is not a "win for all of us". Instead it means there is at least one woman out there looking for revenge from the next one of us, and more that hear about it and then become more guarded and more likely to feel it's ok to screw one of us over.

**Joe Looking** · 01-22-24 10:33

Originally Posted by Raleighassman [View Original Post]

I agree. I've found that moving way higher in the bench line-up. And booking higher grade escorts who understand the game we're playing. Is the way to a pleasurable experience. She acts like she wants to be with me, is excited, fulfilled sexually and wants to see me again. I treat her with total respect, care for her pleasure, pay her, tip her, treat her like a real gf. It's transactional. Just a question of finding / choosing the right escorts. There's lots of them out there.

I've found that this can be hit and miss. I've splurged on the 500+ range and had terrible experience while the 60 chick turned her phone off for a round 2. Ultimately IME for this hobby price doesn't equal value and you don't know the value until you hand the money over which is why above a certain amount you need to really treat it like a business transaction. If I'm paying 500+ I need a picture of your face and you're going to answer my questions about your services. I also don't give out my personal details which has caused me to get ghosted by some "high end providers" but if they're not providing I'd neither am I.

**Joe Looking** · 01-22-24 10:29

Originally Posted by Tawayem [View Original Post]

What happens once they become popular? Raising prices doesn't only mean GPS. It could also mean that providers are simply being contacted by way too many people, and raising prices reduces the effort they have to put in, because now less people will be contacting them. My personal limit is 400, and I've seen Fiona Ender at 400.

I feel like it's both. I think large price jumps are more about making more money than limiting clients. One provider told me that if she gets a stable of regulars, she only posts when she needs to and since she used a texting app only accepted messages from numbers she had saved. There's another provider who largely sees older guy and in the past few years she's barely raised her price. She even wrote on twitter IIRC that in response to having some guys tell her to charge more she flatly said no. She made it clear that she doesn't see tons of guys and she realizes that many of them are older and travel 1+ hours to see her. So unless her personal circumstances change, she's not raising the price.

The best advice is to is be like you and have a limit. Sure your ATF might price herself out of your range but at least you don't go broke.

**ElectricHug** · 01-22-24 08:50

I had the same reaction, but don't want to violate the big yellow warning at the top of our subforum.

**JocoGuy007** · 01-22-24 07:55

This is not a rant, but I am posting here since it is not reviewing a specific escort. Not trying to be confrontational, legitimately want thoughts from the forum. I have copied and pasted an excerpt from the ad which is at the bottom, for reference.

My initial thoughts all point to "he should not have done that. " Whatever lies / drama / disrespect / demons were encountered, they were obvious before the deed was done. He even mentioned that he asked her to leave and that is what finally ended her hesitation.

Have her leave for real. Negotiate a lower rate before paying & fucking. Or, go through with the deal, write a bad review, and never see her again. Once he fucked her even if he felt the rate was too high for the service rendered, rescinding payment on the basis of fraud seems wrong to me. It's unfair to her. It potentially puts her in danger, if a pimp or dealer takes it out on her. It only encourages providers to scam us before they get scammed by us.

My post history is consistent, I am all about identifying and avoiding providers who are unsafe, scamming, or aren't worth it. I'm not seeing this method as the way to do it (especially when there were obvious indications that the encounter would not live up to expectations).

Am I missing something or over reacting? I want to know the thoughts of other mongers.

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The donation, I send it via Cashapp to her "Brother" she called a woman on the phone and got the cashapp name. The donation was $160.

After all the above. BB missionary that I don't even pop to, I just stroked until I was almost done and last few pumps filled her up. She cleans up in the bathroom then I walk her out. During the visit it was very clear she was heavy into her demons. The add is a flat out lie. No Drama, No Disrespect? Both where apparent.

So she's gone now and I go to cashapp and ask for a refund due to fraud and "I didn't have my phone in my possession at the time" The mid morning of this visit I get an email from cashapp "Your money has been refunded" So I got a victory for all of us. I got my money back. My sacrifice to save all of us fellow hobbyist.

**Raleighassman** · 01-19-24 13:59

I agree. I've found that moving way higher in the bench line-up. And booking higher grade escorts who understand the game we're playing. Is the way to a pleasurable experience. She acts like she wants to be with me, is excited, fulfilled sexually and wants to see me again. I treat her with total respect, care for her pleasure, pay her, tip her, treat her like a real gf. It's transactional. Just a question of finding / choosing the right escorts. There's lots of them out there.

Originally Posted by Tawayem [View Original Post]

You're confusing the addicts with the professionals. None of the GFE providers I've seen have ever asked me for anything. 3 years ago when I was a noob an addict was the one who fed me sob story after sob story and took me for 300. And yet the GFE professionals have never contacted me for anything. No cigarettes, no "lease cosigner" like AJ is doing now, nothing. We understand why we're meeting, but we have fun. Like I said in my previous post, I don't have to worry about drugs, bfs, being robbed, being run out on after taking the money. Nothing.

**I Wonder** · 01-19-24 10:10

Originally Posted by Tawayem [View Original Post]

Since the debate about prices has risen again...

Tawayem, thank you for a well written post that does a great job of explaining both sides of the argument.

Originally Posted by GWV90 [View Original Post]

Sadly or maybe funny that most that feel they have a connection are just simping to a professional whose job it is to manipulate men.

GWV90, I don't feel that having good conversation and experiencing an encounter where both people seem to genuinely enjoy being together is being manipulated. Sure, there may be some acting on their part, maybe a lot, and I don't believe that they will spend much time thinking back fondly on our encounter. But, I am getting something that I need and am not getting at home when I have a good GFE. I'm feeling closeness and intimacy with another person.

**LifeLine** · 01-19-24 08:46

It will always depend on what you want and how much you are willing to pay for it. It's the same as shopping different stores for better prices and sales, and what you end of paying is based on how much effort, time, distance, and cost of goods you are willing to accept. Those who are saying "don't pay to bring down the costs" forget that there is a very high probability that not everyone who sees these providers use this forum. So even if 20 people here stopped seeing X provider to try to bring down her rates, there is more than likely 20 more people who don't post that will. I have my standards and will stick with them in order to get what I want; if that means I have to change providers then I do so.

**GWV90** · 01-19-24 01:24

Originally Posted by Tawayem [View Original Post]

You're confusing the addicts with the professionals. None of the GFE providers I've seen have ever asked me for anything. 3 years ago when I was a noob an addict was the one who fed me sob story after sob story and took me for 300. And yet the GFE professionals have never contacted me for anything. No cigarettes, no "lease cosigner" like AJ is doing now, nothing. We understand why we're meeting, but we have fun. Like I said in my previous post, I don't have to worry about drugs, bfs, being robbed, being run out on after taking the money. Nothing.

Oh wow. Some genius will end up doing that. No, I meant the professionals. They are all professionals at using men. Some are just more discreet or don't want the drama of a "relationship". I get what you are saying. My comment was a shotgun blast. Not aiming at anyone.

**Tawayem** · 01-19-24 00:48

You're confusing the addicts with the professionals. None of the GFE providers I've seen have ever asked me for anything. 3 years ago when I was a noob an addict was the one who fed me sob story after sob story and took me for 300. And yet the GFE professionals have never contacted me for anything. No cigarettes, no "lease cosigner" like AJ is doing now, nothing. We understand why we're meeting, but we have fun. Like I said in my previous post, I don't have to worry about drugs, bfs, being robbed, being run out on after taking the money. Nothing.