Space Cadets

[AveImperator14]

All the resolutions I have made have been broken.

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I think he might be able to make it less than 8 hours. No guarantees though.

[BigD334]

All the resolutions I have made have been broken.

Ok to all the gentlemen who shared so much great information on these good and bad ladies I want to thank you. I'm going to take a little break from the hobby to save some money and give more attention to the wife. So from now till 2024 I won't be contributing to the monger family. See you guys next year! Please don't reach out and tempt me.

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[True Pair]

Ok to all the gentlemen who shared so much great information on these good and bad ladies I want to thank you. I'm going to take a little break from the hobby to save some money and give more attention to the wife. So from now till 2024 I won't be contributing to the monger family. See you guys next year! Please don't reach out and tempt me.

[VincentGambini]

Several things. Miranda Rights have to be read upon Arrest, that's not a negotiable. The reason why it isn't done all the time during "arrests" cause the cops can play games with when you go from being Detained to Arrested if you aren't verifying it.

Lawful activity can be used as evidence for Unlawful activity with Unlawful activity. There needs to be an actual crime committed for any of that stuff to be relevant. Being at a place that serves alcohol then driving is irrelevant when your blood alcohol level is below the legal limit.

Visits with Escorts I have seen recently was all Lawful activity. I paid money to spend a certain amount of time with them. What happens during that time is irrelevant since there was no exchange of money for services. That's how this legal fiction operates, on the basis on being technically Lawful Activity since "it doesn't matter what you know but what you can prove" at court.

Respectfully, you clearly do now know what you're talking about. Maybe you've just watched too much Law & Order or some other such show that makes things seems so cookie cutter. But no, Miranda warnings most definitely do NOT "have to be read upon Arrest" whether DUI or otherwise. Miranda requires two things, a custodial situation and being subject to an interrogation. Custodial situation will typically mean an arrest, though not necessarily. And interrogation means being asked questions related to the alleged crime. Roadside is generally NOT considered custodial and the standard DUI questions are NOT considered to be an interrogation. It is well established law in Florida that a standard DUI investigation and arrest will not invoke Miranda. Further, for crimes other than DUI, the vast majority do NOT include Miranda warnings. I sincerely hope you now have some understanding of this issue. Or, at a minimum, that you keep you incorrect beliefs to yourself and stop spreading false information.

Here is your review of Mercedes:

https://skipthegames.com/posts/cocoa...-/819142187630

It was late in the night and wasn't able to see other girls, so I took a chance on her regardless of the old sub-par reviews since she had an incall conveniently located 10 minutes away. It's her in the pictures and she's only a little heavier than them while being a tall / big girl with giant tits, so the weight is carried well. The incall location was definitely rough even for cocoa but the visit was overall a very good one. Full GFE, her tits really are fantastic, she gets into it. YMMV considering the other older reports on her but I was pleasantly surprised on the chance I took.

Here is your review of Stacy:

https://skipthegames.com/posts/palmb...n/804799049927

I hadn't done a report since she told me was trying to take a step back from getting new clients as she was already overwhelmed after just starting back in October & hadn't been posting new ads but as she put up a new ad yesterday then I figured that was over.

First off the negatives. Visiting her is very much like visiting Honey, IE terrible comms & waiting around past the agreed upon time seems to be standard but also like visiting Honey once you actually get in the room with her it's an amazing visit.

Her incall is a nice gated apartment complex in Palm Bay, she looks even better than her pictures, pleasant to talk to, & fucks like a demon. Full GFE is available with BBBJ & DATY, she likes to get on top, & the view from behind is top notch. All my visits with her have far exceeded my expectations and kept me going back.

Both of those reviews were done this month. As I have said several times, if we're all being honest here, our actions ultimately are intended to lead to a certain result, that result going right back to the original issue of avoiding arrest by merely not doing anything illegal. Those recent reviews of yours clearly seem contradictory to your "no exchange of money for services" comment. Obviously your reviews and your comments in this discussion cannot both be true.

[AveImperator14]

Several things. Miranda Rights have to be read upon Arrest, that's not a negotiable. The reason why it isn't done all the time during "arrests" cause the cops can play games with when you go from being Detained to Arrested if you aren't verifying it.

Lawful activity can be used as evidence for Unlawful activity with Unlawful activity. There needs to be an actual crime committed for any of that stuff to be relevant. Being at a place that serves alcohol then driving is irrelevant when your blood alcohol level is below the legal limit.

Visits with Escorts I have seen recently was all Lawful activity. I paid money to spend a certain amount of time with them. What happens during that time is irrelevant since there was no exchange of money for services. That's how this legal fiction operates, on the basis on being technically Lawful Activity since "it doesn't matter what you know but what you can prove" at court.

[VincentGambini]

That your premise of Lawful activity being used as evidence for Unlawful activity is actionable in Court regardless of it being a Criminal or Civil Court is a false premise.

That is incorrect. "Lawful activity" is used all the time as "evidence for Unlawful activity" in court and, in turn, does not, in and of itself, become "actionable in Court" as the basis for some lawsuit. Using the ongoing example of a DUI, it is legal to go to an establishment where the primary business is the sale of alcoholic beverages, it is legal to consume alcohol and it is even legal to consume alcohol and drive a car. As a note, it only becomes illegal to drive a car if the consumption of alcohol has caused the person to become impaired or blow over the legal limit. That said, each and every one of those "lawful" activities will be used as evidence against the accused in a trial for DUI, they went to a bar, they bought alcohol, they consumed that alcohol, they then left the bar, got in their car and drove away. All legal actions, all will be detailed in court.

Secondly, that in any sting operation the cops by definition of it being a sting are going to try to coax Intent to commit illegal activity from you so that they have actual evidence of a crime. Escorting is legal activity & since we are Innocent Until Proven Guilty then there is no Intent to commit a crime by engaging in Lawful Behavior. Everything that you listed is Lawful activity, which is why the cops would be incentivized to try to get you to agree to illegal activity so there would be grounds to effect your arrest upon arrival. If the provider that you are texting starts getting specific about activities for money then that's when you stop responding & don't go there. She would have no incentive to engage in illegal activity with an unknown person anymore than you are incentivized to engage in illegal activity with an unknown person.

Also incorrect, or at least hugely misleading. While being an "escort" is lawful, as stated in my previous post, assuming we're all being honest here, we're not actually perusing those ads, contacting the numbers in those ads and setting up dates and times to meet because we want to be with an "escort" for a half hour or an hour. And again, reading the ads on STG or LC or wherever else, is completely lawful. So too is contacting the person at the other end of the phone number, even legal to set up a "date" with that person. The activity only becomes illegal upon the discussion (or actual action) of exchanging money for sex. But, just like in the trial for the DUI charge, all those "lawful" activities will be detailed in court. While I would agree (just as I did in the very first post) that you should "stop responding & don't go there" if the texting "starts getting specific about activities for money" that does not make the rest of your statement accurate.

I was most definitely placed under arrest since I make sure to ask as soon as the handcuffs come out whether I'm under arrest or just being detained. Since He said I was under arrest then I was able to force him to subject me to the Blood Test since he was refusing to do a breathalyzer that I requested on me. My goal there was to remove any Subjective opinion from him by refusing to dance like a monkey doing his field sobriety tests & forcing an Objective fact from a Breath / Blood Test in this regard.

Incorrect here too. You cannot "force" LE to do a blood test in a DUI, blood draws do occasionally happen in a DUI, but it is rather rare and, again, cannot be "forced" by the defendant. While a commonly held belief, this is simply not true. After being arrested for DUI, nearly every defendant will be requested to submit to a breath test, breath will nearly always come before urine or blood. As to urine, this will typically be requested if the person blows below 0. 08 or where LE believes the impairment is from drugs, rather than alcohol. As to blood, this will typically be requested where there is serious bodily injury or death or where the defendant is taken to a hospital for some reason, perhaps a car crash. By law, LE otherwise would only do blood where breath is impossible or impractical, not simply because it was requested by the defendant. Keep in mind, nearly every LE agency will have an intoxilyzer at their precinct, a machine that is operated and maintained by LE. Meaning, relatively quick, simple and easy to use and, should the case go to court, easy to get all relevant witnesses to court to testify. Conversely, blood would involve medical personnel and be sent to someone for testing. Not only does the mere collection and testing take more time and effort than breath, but courtroom testimony is logistically more difficult as well as the prosecution will need to bring all those individuals to court. In short, breath is much easier for LE, and the prosecution, than blood. In turn, the court system hugely gives LE the ability to determine whether to request breath, urine or blood.

As to the part about "refusing to do a breathalyzer" that you had requested, I admittedly have to speculate a bit as I was not there for your arrest and you did not provide a great deal of detail as to what occurred. Regardless, from what you've stated thus far, my guess is you were arrested and a breath test was requested by LE. After that, something occurred that led to LE considering it to be a refusal, regardless of whether you, in fact, believed you had refused. This is a fairly common occurrence, perhaps the defendant will get into a debate with LE, maybe LE requests breath three or four times and never gets an actual "yes" or "no" to the request, or maybe the person blows into the instrument insufficiently and the instrument indicates "VNM" for "volume not met" or "NSP" for "no sample provided" both likely leading to a situation where LE considers it a refusal to submit to the breath test.

Just because you are "arrested" doesn't mean that you are processed and charged. Moving from being Detained to being Arrested is just one step on that process, a serious step but not the end of the steps necessary for you to be formally charged with a crime by the State. Hence why I made sure to do a lot of mocking towards him in my statements since they would all be necessity become part of the Court proceedings as under Miranda Rights then "anything you say can and will be used against you in court. "

Another commonly held misconception is that the Miranda warnings are read at every arrest. Not true, Miranda is probably read in about a fourth of the arrests that take place. As to DUI, Miranda is almost never read. Well, at least not in a standard DUI arrest. By "standard" DUI, I mean one that does not involve a crash, serious bodily injury or death. Additionally, the Miranda warnings would likely not be a part of the analysis for whether the statements you reference would be admissible in court. The "mocking" statements you made would be considered voluntary, thereby making Miranda irrelevant. The issues here would be whether the statements would be relevant to any crimes charged and, if so, whether the probative value of those statements would outweigh the prejudicial effect. In my opinion, they would be considered admissible in court as they might be considered probative as to whether you were, in fact, impaired while driving your vehicle. Again though, Miranda would be irrelevant in that context.

Obviously I didn't file any civil lawsuit against illegal arrest since I was never charged or processed. I was annoyed for an hour & repaired that annoyance by making fun of the cop during that time period with the certain knowledge that he was going to get hazed about it by his colleagues for a while. My point being that even if an overzealous cop in the field makes a mistake by doing an illegal arrest, if the arrest is illegal than back at the station it will be prevented from actually becoming an actionable civil case by completing the process of charging & processing (there's no "Reputational Damage" since it is never a matter of Public Record since no charges were filed & punitive damages is where you make the real money in a civil case.).

Whether you file a civil lawsuit is, of course, entirely up to you. However, whether you were "charged or processed" would not be dispositive on the filing of such a suit. Based on your statements, you were subject to a traffic stop, you went through a criminal investigation, you were arrested and taken to a LE precinct. Clearly you were inconvenienced, at a minimum, you had time taken from you and, arguably, you were "injured" in some form or fashion. In theory, that's the basis of a civil lawsuit. While I have no idea whether you would prevail, or what recovery you might obtain, certainly you had a legitimate claim to pursue.

I will again suggest a ride in the "way, way back machine" so as to address the original issue, that being the comment of it being "really easy" to avoid arrest by merely not doing "anything illegal" while hobbying. As I've stated previously, it isn't quite that simple. First, and again assuming honesty, there is an expectation of an activity occurring at some point that would be considered illegal. Second, even when no actual illegal activity occurs, an arrest may take place and, in that situation, the arrested person will need to decide how vigorously he (or she) wants to pursue legal remedies available through the court system, especially where (as detailed previously) LE's actions were reasonable in light of the factual allegations, even when no actual "unlawful activity" took place. Taking your statement of "don't do anything illegal" as completely literal, then sure, that should permit you to avoid an arrest. But, the mere fact that you (along with the rest of us, myself included) are on this site posting reviews that include details that go well beyond the scope of "escort" type services (recent reviews of Mercedes and Stacy come to mind) would indicate that your statement was not, in fact, meant to be taken entirely literally.

[AveImperator14]

Haven't been on this site for a week now because of the site not letting me login and now it's taking forever for it load. Literally took me almost an hour just to post this, anyone else having these issues? Trying to figure out if it's the site or if I've pissed off the higher ups again somehow.

Site issues. Just reloading the page seems to work the best for the database error.

[AyeVerb]

Haven't been on this site for a week now because of the site not letting me login and now it's taking forever for it load. Literally took me almost an hour just to post this, anyone else having these issues? Trying to figure out if it's the site or if I've pissed off the higher ups again somehow.

[BigStud47]

You all decide.

Well lets just say she has cameras all inside apartment and my last visit her fianc hung out in living room and I think he was watching via cam cause before we went in too. They were upstairs moving things around and she has told me that he likes to watch her having sex with guys!!

Bs.

Also if you want to verify next Tim in her room look at her curtain at left hand side you'll see a cut out for the camera that's is inside window is able to be turned around facing the bed! She showed me it personally.

Ken you're better off trying not to help she's done this to herself!

Merry Christmas all.

[BigStud47]

What's the deal with her? I've never been able to set up a visit but have had some text conversations and she seems to like sending pics (I have a whole bunch that have never been posted on the forum.) So what's the danger / warning / issue that we should be wary about?

Pm sent sir.

[AveImperator14]

Well it appears Kendal's wants to deceive others so I warn you to proceed with extreme caution on Katherine / diamond.

UTR Katherine.

Everyone, I have a UTR in Rockledge that's looking for regulars.

I just had an amazing, non rushed time with her young tight body! Extensive menu, including any fetishes you have like lingerie, outfits and toys. She's a really sweet girl and genuinely enjoys what she does. She sent me picture to share with you guys. Senior members can PM me for details.

Bs.

What's the deal with her? I've never been able to set up a visit but have had some text conversations and she seems to like sending pics (I have a whole bunch that have never been posted on the forum.) So what's the danger / warning / issue that we should be wary about?

[BigStud47]

Well it appears Kendal's wants to deceive others so I warn you to proceed with extreme caution on Katherine / diamond.

UTR Katherine.

Everyone, I have a UTR in Rockledge that's looking for regulars.

I just had an amazing, non rushed time with her young tight body! Extensive menu, including any fetishes you have like lingerie, outfits and toys. She's a really sweet girl and genuinely enjoys what she does. She sent me picture to share with you guys. Senior members can PM me for details.

Bs.

KENADAMS. Sorry miss spelled KENADAMS.

[BigStud47]

Well it appears Kendal's wants to deceive others so I warn you to proceed with extreme caution on Katherine / diamond.

UTR Katherine.

Everyone, I have a UTR in Rockledge that's looking for regulars.

I just had an amazing, non rushed time with her young tight body! Extensive menu, including any fetishes you have like lingerie, outfits and toys. She's a really sweet girl and genuinely enjoys what she does. She sent me picture to share with you guys. Senior members can PM me for details.

Bs.

[Hawkeye49]

Reading the last several threads I feel like I've gone from a version of the show Big Brother to Law and Order. This is great stuff! I know I need to get a life.

[AveImperator14]

It's unclear to me what point it was you intended to convey.

That your premise of Lawful activity being used as evidence for Unlawful activity is actionable in Court regardless of it being a Criminal or Civil Court is a false premise. Secondly, that in any sting operation the cops by definition of it being a sting are going to try to coax Intent to commit illegal activity from you so that they have actual evidence of a crime. Escorting is legal activity & since we are Innocent Until Proven Guilty then there is no Intent to commit a crime by engaging in Lawful Behavior. Everything that you listed is Lawful activity, which is why the cops would be incentivized to try to get you to agree to illegal activity so there would be grounds to effect your arrest upon arrival. If the provider that you are texting starts getting specific about activities for money then that's when you stop responding & don't go there. She would have no incentive to engage in illegal activity with an unknown person anymore than you are incentivized to engage in illegal activity with an unknown person.

While you provided some detail as to a possible DUI arrest sometime ago, it's unclear if you were actually arrested, what with the comment of another officer taking you back to your car. Additionally, you did not offer any detail as to whether you initiated a civil lawsuit after your interaction with law enforcement.

I was most definitely placed under arrest since I make sure to ask as soon as the handcuffs come out whether I'm under arrest or just being detained. Since He said I was under arrest then I was able to force him to subject me to the Blood Test since he was refusing to do a breathalyzer that I requested on me. My goal there was to remove any Subjective opinion from him by refusing to dance like a monkey doing his field sobriety tests & forcing an Objective fact from a Breath / Blood Test in this regard. Just because you are "arrested" doesn't mean that you are processed and charged. Moving from being Detained to being Arrested is just one step on that process, a serious step but not the end of the steps necessary for you to be formally charged with a crime by the State. Hence why I made sure to do a lot of mocking towards him in my statements since they would all be necessity become part of the Court proceedings as under Miranda Rights then "anything you say can and will be used against you in court. " Obviously I didn't file any civil lawsuit against illegal arrest since I was never charged or processed. I was annoyed for an hour & repaired that annoyance by making fun of the cop during that time period with the certain knowledge that he was going to get hazed about it by his colleagues for a while. My point being that even if an overzealous cop in the field makes a mistake by doing an illegal arrest, if the arrest is illegal than back at the station it will be prevented from actually becoming an actionable civil case by completing the process of charging & processing (there's no "Reputational Damage" since it is never a matter of Public Record since no charges were filed & punitive damages is where you make the real money in a civil case.).