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  1. #32

    Copper Toxicity Theory of ED

    There is a theory that age related erectile dysfunction and prostate swelling are caused by an accumulation of excessive amounts of the mineral copper in the body. Since minerals compete with one another for absorption and retention, this excess copper causes a deficiency of zinc, molybdenum and manganese. The excess copper causes estrogen levels to rise and testosterone levels to fall. If this is true then the solution would be to reduce copper levels.

    The first thing to do would be to reduce copper intake. Vegetarian diets tend to be high in copper and low in zinc, depending on the food. Meat tends to be low in copper except for organ meats. However, meat tends to be low in molybdenum and manganese, which also compete with copper. The ideal ratio of zinc to copper in food is about 7:1. For copper reduction purposes it would be beneficial to have a zinc to copper ratio closer to 10:1. Mineral content of foods can be found online. I like to set the serving size to 100 grams so I can compare different foods. For example, the following link shows the nutritional content of dark chocolate:

    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/sweets/10638/2

    100 grams of dark chocolate contain 3.3 mg zinc, 1.8 mg copper and 1.9 mg manganese. The zinc to copper ratio is less than 2:1 and the total copper amount is large. Molybdenum content is not reported.

    High copper foods include chocolate, nuts, seeds (except pumpkin seeds), beans and organ meats. Beef liver is particularly high in copper.

    Another source of copper intake is from tap water. When water sits in copper pipes some copper is absorbed by the water. It is best to let the tap run until the water turns cold before drinking it or cooking with it. Multivitamins often contain copper.

    The next step would be to increase consumption of minerals that are copper antagonists, namely zinc, molybdenum and manganese. Red meat is high in zinc and low in copper, but has only negligible amounts of molybdenum and manganese. It is also low in magnesium, another mineral which tends to be deficient in the north american diet. Based on my review of various foods I find that the best food source of molybdenum, manganese and magnesium is whole grain. It also has moderate amounts of zinc and reasonably low copper levels. The following link shows the nutritional content of rolled oats:

    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...cereals/1597/2

    100 grams of rolled oats contain 3.6 mg zinc, 0.4 mg copper, 3.6 mg manganese and 138 mg magnesium. On another web site I found that oats are also high in molybdenum. The zinc to copper ratio is 9:1. Other grains have similar profiles but are not as good as oats. White (processed) grains have most of the good minerals removed. The macrobiotic diet is based on whole grains. Maybe this is why.

    This theory may explain why some men obtain good results from taking zinc supplements, since it would reduce copper. However, it may take a long time to restore the proper zinc to copper ratio in the body, so don't expect immediate results. Also, this approach typically neglects manganese and molybdenum, which should also be supplemented.

    The following links can provide more information about the copper toxicity theory:

    http://drlwilson.com/articles/copper...y_syndrome.htm

    http://www.arltma.com/Articles/CopperToxDoc.htm

    http://nutritionalbalancing.org/cent...r-toxicity.php

  2. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDough  [View Original Post]
    Quoting from:

    http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic42651.html

    "in order to produce a spontaneous, harder and longer erection you must produce more prostaglandin e1 in your penile tissues and by taking daily.

    3000 mg fish oil.

    3000 mg borage oil.

    1500 mg l-arginine.

    Will boost the prostaglandin e1 synethisis and help you gradually rejuvenate his neuro-endocrine function and to excite your noergic / oxytonergic nervous system for health and sex.

    Try this out for a month and see if you notice any improvements. Let us know how you get on.

    I have been taking the above prostaglandin e1 therapy for many months now and it is helping my semen production, refractory time, erection power and stamina also you should notice more spontaneous erections".

    https://sexualreboot.com/topic/are-b...ge-oil-needed/

    "fish oil lowers pge-2 and borage oil increases pge-1. I'm currently taking 3 g of each and it works very well for me. However from 2 g onwards I started feeling the effects".

    "I take Carlsons Fish OIl 1000 mg 3 x day and natures way borage oil 1300 3 x day. Since I started taking them I got wet dreams and got better and longer lasting morning erections".
    It sounds like Carlsons Fish Oil is working great for you. The label says it contains DHA 120 mg & EPA 180 mg. I think some of the really potent fish oils will really provide solid results. Look for Fish Oils with over 400 DHA and 300 EPA per softgel to make sure you're getting your money's worth.

  3. #30
    Quoting from:

    http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic42651.html

    "in order to produce a spontaneous, harder and longer erection you must produce more prostaglandin e1 in your penile tissues and by taking daily.

    3000 mg fish oil.

    3000 mg borage oil.

    1500 mg l-arginine.

    Will boost the prostaglandin e1 synethisis and help you gradually rejuvenate his neuro-endocrine function and to excite your noergic / oxytonergic nervous system for health and sex.

    Try this out for a month and see if you notice any improvements. Let us know how you get on.

    I have been taking the above prostaglandin e1 therapy for many months now and it is helping my semen production, refractory time, erection power and stamina also you should notice more spontaneous erections".

    https://sexualreboot.com/topic/are-b...ge-oil-needed/

    "fish oil lowers pge-2 and borage oil increases pge-1. I'm currently taking 3 g of each and it works very well for me. However from 2 g onwards I started feeling the effects".

    "I take Carlsons Fish OIl 1000 mg 3 x day and natures way borage oil 1300 3 x day. Since I started taking them I got wet dreams and got better and longer lasting morning erections".

  4. #29

    Fish

    Quote Originally Posted by Gigabyte40  [View Original Post]
    I take fish oil supplements too. 2000 mg twice a day. But I don't take it for ED. I take it to help lower cholesterol specifically high triglyceride levels.

    Make sure the fish oil you take is potent. There are a lot of cheap alternatives (like Wal Mart) that won't be effective.

    Check the label and look at the amount of EPA and DHA contained in each capsule.

    2 of the most potent fish oil capsules are:

    Prescription Lovaza (or generic equivalent) EPA 465 mg and DHA 375 mg per 1000 mg capsule.

    Kirkland / Costco Fish Oil EPA 410 mg and DHA 274 mg per 1200 mg capsule.

    If your fish oil does not list EPA and DHA amounts on the label, then there is probably not a measurable amount of either one.

    GB40.
    I have been on fish oil for a week4,1000's,a day) CVS. Have good wood in the morning now! Hope this keeps working. Need to find a young woman. Drk.

  5. #28

    Fish Oil supplements

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDough  [View Original Post]
    Quoting from:

    http://www.themarriagebed.com/boards...p?f=23&t=47296

    "I just thought I'd share something that completely SOLVED an ED problem I previously had. First off, I'm 53. Around the time I turned 50, I noticed I needed a lot more sexual stimulation from my wife, before getting very firm. A bit of background: my job had me at a desk all day long, and I'd really neglected my exercise. I did notice that whenever I exercised consistently my libido somewhat improved, as slightly did my erection ability, HOWEVER, the inconsistency of firmness remained obvious. Anyway, I happened to begin taking FISH OIL supplements (I take four 1,000 mgs per day) and relatively quickly. WHAMO. I'm BACK BABY! I started noticing sensation in my penis during the day and waking up with the "tent pole. " Now, instead of struggling to a flimsy erection with help, I'm back to being "Banana Bob," with just a glimpse of my wife's beautiful breasts, my penis is curving back and pointing up just like when I was much younger. Now I can be dozing on the couch and wake up with a ferocious erection, which is amazing. I read that fish oil and essential fatty acids can be very important to sexual function. Wow, so I was deficient in EFAs, and the fish oil absolutely restored me".

    "The fish oil I take is enteric-coated capsules (prevents burping fish breath. You never taste or smell it). They never bothered my stomach whatsoever. Results began within a week of beginning them".
    I take fish oil supplements too. 2000 mg twice a day. But I don't take it for ED. I take it to help lower cholesterol specifically high triglyceride levels.

    Make sure the fish oil you take is potent. There are a lot of cheap alternatives (like Wal Mart) that won't be effective.

    Check the label and look at the amount of EPA and DHA contained in each capsule.

    2 of the most potent fish oil capsules are:

    Prescription Lovaza (or generic equivalent) EPA 465 mg and DHA 375 mg per 1000 mg capsule.

    Kirkland / Costco Fish Oil EPA 410 mg and DHA 274 mg per 1200 mg capsule.

    If your fish oil does not list EPA and DHA amounts on the label, then there is probably not a measurable amount of either one.

    GB40.

  6. #27
    Quoting from:

    http://www.themarriagebed.com/boards...p?f=23&t=47296

    "I just thought I'd share something that completely SOLVED an ED problem I previously had. First off, I'm 53. Around the time I turned 50, I noticed I needed a lot more sexual stimulation from my wife, before getting very firm. A bit of background: my job had me at a desk all day long, and I'd really neglected my exercise. I did notice that whenever I exercised consistently my libido somewhat improved, as slightly did my erection ability, HOWEVER, the inconsistency of firmness remained obvious. Anyway, I happened to begin taking FISH OIL supplements (I take four 1,000 mgs per day) and relatively quickly. WHAMO. I'm BACK BABY! I started noticing sensation in my penis during the day and waking up with the "tent pole. " Now, instead of struggling to a flimsy erection with help, I'm back to being "Banana Bob," with just a glimpse of my wife's beautiful breasts, my penis is curving back and pointing up just like when I was much younger. Now I can be dozing on the couch and wake up with a ferocious erection, which is amazing. I read that fish oil and essential fatty acids can be very important to sexual function. Wow, so I was deficient in EFAs, and the fish oil absolutely restored me".

    "The fish oil I take is enteric-coated capsules (prevents burping fish breath. You never taste or smell it). They never bothered my stomach whatsoever. Results began within a week of beginning them".

  7. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Genghis2  [View Original Post]
    Let me say though when I was younger, zinc never helped my EQ (erection quality) what it did do however, was to increase dramatically the amount of semen ejaculated each time. As I have gotten older The effect is diminished if non existent.
    Swedish Flower Pollen Extract increased semen volume for me, even at an older age. It didn't help with EQ though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Genghis2  [View Original Post]
    I have tried the niacin for other issues and never noticed any improved EQ.
    I took 500 mg per day of the no flush niacin (vitamin B3) and didn't notice any change in EQ. Some people say vitamins B5 and B6 help EQ. I find a B complex supplement helps slightly.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDough  [View Original Post]
    5. Evening Primrose Oil. This has GLA in it, which converts to PGE1. Once you start taking ionic magnesium as well, you will be converting more of this GLA to PGE1 regularly. Also EPO may lower your prolactin, but we take it mainly for the GLA. Take 1-3 g a day.
    There are good claims for Primrose oil and Borage oil which also has GLA. There are also good claims for fish oil and flax oil. I'm just starting a Omega 3-6-9 supplement that has all three (waiting for results).

    Here is someone else's report on flax oil:

    http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/b...rt-health.html

    "I thought that I would try supplementing with alpha-Linolenic acid (ALA), an omega-3 fatty acid, based on several scientific journal articles that I have read recently. I chose 1000 mg gelatin capsules of cold-pressed Flax seed oil, dosing once a day. The past three times that I've indulged in sex with my wife, I noticed that I was HARD. Hard in a way that I have not experienced in, apparently, quite a number of years. These woods were profoundly and noticably different than my lately "normal" erections, being absolutely rigid during sex and orgasm, and even remaining hard for minutes afterward".

  8. #25

    Zinc Supplementation

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDough  [View Original Post]
    I'm surprised the article I quoted didn't say anything about zinc supplements. There are many posts on the internet about men who got improvement from taking zinc. I am just starting to take it myself. Supposedly it increases testosterone, reduces estrogen (which older men have too much of), shrinks a swollen prostate and increases libido.

    http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com...e-levels.html/

    "Zinc is, in my opinion, the most important mineral for men".

    http://www.quitporngetgirls.com/2014...s-supplements/

    "Personally, zinc has been the most hands down effective and dramatic supplement when it comes to treating my ED".

    http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic...my-life/page-2

    "the erections I get with zinc piconilate are even harder than viagra and cialis combined"!
    Hello there John, I see yet again you and me are on the same track with the supplements / herbals. As far as zinc goes, I have been taking it for decades. In particular, the more expensive zinc picolinate which does not irritate my stomach as the cheaper gluconate version does. I take typically 25-30 mg per day and no more. I will link to side effects which I can attest to are for real (at least some of them). You know that copper is an antagonist to zinc so levels need to be monitored to make sure the balance is correct. That is why foods, say oysters, pumpkin seeds etc. Are best because they contain both minerals not just one. Let me say though when I was younger, zinc never helped my EQ (erection quality) what it did do however, was to increase dramatically the amount of semen ejaculated each time. Which makes sense, as you think that it nourishes the prostate gland which is responsible for most of the contents of a man, s ejaculation. As I have gotten older The effect is diminished if non existent. I still think it is wise to supplement though as typical diet is lacking in zinc AND more importantly we assimilate nutrients less when we are older compounding the problem.

    Here are the side effect links:

    http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/much...-day-5230.html

    http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/can-...per-10909.html

    http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/much...-you-5921.html

    I have tried the niacin for other issues and never noticed any improved EQ but I will revisit this with an increased dosage.

    Good experimenting.

    G2.

  9. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by FwtoIndy  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for posting this. I'll definitely be looking into it. After a very disappointing performance last April (on my birthday no less) I started researching the ED subject. I'm not saying this will work for everybody, but 500 mg of Niacin a day had done wonders for me. (Be sure to get the flush-free kind) My last encounter, I was up and at 'them for two hours straight. That has NEVER happened before! : the.
    I'm surprised the article I quoted didn't say anything about zinc supplements. There are many posts on the internet about men who got improvement from taking zinc. I am just starting to take it myself. Supposedly it increases testosterone, reduces estrogen (which older men have too much of), shrinks a swollen prostate and increases libido.

    http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com...e-levels.html/

    "Zinc is, in my opinion, the most important mineral for men".

    http://www.quitporngetgirls.com/2014...s-supplements/

    "Personally, zinc has been the most hands down effective and dramatic supplement when it comes to treating my ED".

    http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic...my-life/page-2

    "the erections I get with zinc piconilate are even harder than viagra and cialis combined"!

  10. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldmonger  [View Original Post]
    The title of the US Consulate's page you referenced is "Buying Prescription Drugs in Mexico" but the body of the page refers solely to controlled medications such as Valium, Vicodin, Placidyl, Ambien, codeine, pseudoefedrine, Demerol, morphine, and Ativan.
    My apologies.

  11. #22

    Misleading / Incorrect Information

    Quote Originally Posted by Simmer2  [View Original Post]
    In the Philippines Viagra is supposed to be by prescription only. However, many pharmacies will sell it to you anyway, which I've confirmed by trying myself.

    That's not quite true. From http://tijuana.usconsulate.gov/tijua...in_mexico.html :

    "To bring the medications into the United States, travelers will need to show a valid USA Prescription to the inspector at the Port of Entry. The USA Prescription is in addition to the Mexican prescription used to purchase the medications in Mexico. ".

    Would you get caught? Probably not, but that doesn't make it legal!
    The title of the US Consulate's page you referenced is "Buying Prescription Drugs in Mexico" but the body of the page refers solely to controlled medications such as Valium, Vicodin, Placidyl, Ambien, codeine, pseudoefedrine, Demerol, morphine, and Ativan.

    If anyone purchases controlled medications in Mexico, and doesn't follow the letter of the law, they are risking serious jail time.

    I don't know the Mexican laws re the purchase of prescription drugs such as Viagra or Azithromycin, or the US Customs policy at the Mexican border. I'm sure the rules are more relaxed than those for controlled medications.

    While technically it is illegal to import prescription drugs to the US, US Customs is allowing up to a 90-day supply of non-controlled drugs for personal use from on-line pharmacies.

  12. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDough  [View Original Post]
    Quoting from:

    http://www.earthclinic.com/cures/ere...function2.html

    I've been messing with every supplement under the sun for about 10 years now, for better health in general and libido and erections. 100's. And I'll tell you what I found, by finding and using the few supplements you're nutritionally deficient in, your erections will be 100 x better than taking all the libido enhancers out there (horny goat weed, maca, etc.) but not correcting these nutritional deficiencies.

    1. Ionic Magnesium. This must be the liquid magnesium. Why magnesium? Well people are hugely deficient in it, it is responsible for other 900+ enzymes in your body, one of them being converting GLA to PGE1, which is needed for erections (the injectable ED drug was pure PGE1 called Alprostadil).

    2. Sea Kelp. This is for iodine. And with mine and my other friends experiences, sea kelp works wonders for really hard erections and stronger orgasms. (Stronger orgasms for women too). Iodine is extremely important for erections, believe me. But take it via sea kelp, as you can easily go over board other ways.

    3. L-carnitine. Now DO NOT get Acetyl l Carnitine. Get either L Carnitine L Tartrate or L Carnitine L Fumarate. The latter 2 are more for the body, the former crosses the BBB too easily and will make you stressed, angry, or headache. L Carnitine L Tartrate has been proven in scientific studies to be better than testosterone injections for ED, and increasing androgen receptors in your body (more receptors allows more testosterone to latch onto).

    4. Vitamin C. You might think I'm crazy for suggesting this, but it works really well. Start taking 2 g of vitamin C before sex and you will be amazed how powerful this out of fashion vitamin is. It is a very powerful Nitric Oxide enhancer.

    5. Evening Primrose Oil. This has GLA in it, which converts to PGE1. Once you start taking ionic magnesium as well, you will be converting more of this GLA to PGE1 regularly. Also EPO may lower your prolactin, but we take it mainly for the GLA. Take 1-3 g a day.

    This formula is probably going to cost you $10 a month or less if you took these supplements everyday.
    Thanks for posting this. I'll definitely be looking into it. After a very disappointing performance last April (on my birthday no less) I started researching the ED subject. I'm not saying this will work for everybody, but 500 mg of Niacin a day had done wonders for me. (Be sure to get the flush-free kind) My last encounter, I was up and at 'them for two hours straight. That has NEVER happened before! : the.

  13. #20

    ED Treatment Home Remedies

    Quoting from:

    http://www.earthclinic.com/cures/ere...function2.html

    I've been messing with every supplement under the sun for about 10 years now, for better health in general and libido and erections. 100's. And I'll tell you what I found, by finding and using the few supplements you're nutritionally deficient in, your erections will be 100 x better than taking all the libido enhancers out there (horny goat weed, maca, etc.) but not correcting these nutritional deficiencies.

    1. Ionic Magnesium. This must be the liquid magnesium. Why magnesium? Well people are hugely deficient in it, it is responsible for other 900+ enzymes in your body, one of them being converting GLA to PGE1, which is needed for erections (the injectable ED drug was pure PGE1 called Alprostadil).

    2. Sea Kelp. This is for iodine. And with mine and my other friends experiences, sea kelp works wonders for really hard erections and stronger orgasms. (Stronger orgasms for women too). Iodine is extremely important for erections, believe me. But take it via sea kelp, as you can easily go over board other ways.

    3. L-carnitine. Now DO NOT get Acetyl l Carnitine. Get either L Carnitine L Tartrate or L Carnitine L Fumarate. The latter 2 are more for the body, the former crosses the BBB too easily and will make you stressed, angry, or headache. L Carnitine L Tartrate has been proven in scientific studies to be better than testosterone injections for ED, and increasing androgen receptors in your body (more receptors allows more testosterone to latch onto).

    4. Vitamin C. You might think I'm crazy for suggesting this, but it works really well. Start taking 2 g of vitamin C before sex and you will be amazed how powerful this out of fashion vitamin is. It is a very powerful Nitric Oxide enhancer.

    5. Evening Primrose Oil. This has GLA in it, which converts to PGE1. Once you start taking ionic magnesium as well, you will be converting more of this GLA to PGE1 regularly. Also EPO may lower your prolactin, but we take it mainly for the GLA. Take 1-3 g a day.

    This formula is probably going to cost you $10 a month or less if you took these supplements everyday.

  14. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Max#01  [View Original Post]
    I've never traveled to Asia or Central America, so I can't comment on availability at those locations.
    In the Philippines Viagra is supposed to be by prescription only. However, many pharmacies will sell it to you anyway, which I've confirmed by trying myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Max#01  [View Original Post]
    I've also head that you can get a legal prescription at clinics in Mexican border towns, buy a supply in Mexico, and legally import them back to the USA Customs complains and may hassle you, but the prescription is legal.
    That's not quite true. From http://tijuana.usconsulate.gov/tijua...in_mexico.html :

    "To bring the medications into the United States, travelers will need to show a valid USA Prescription to the inspector at the Port of Entry. The USA Prescription is in addition to the Mexican prescription used to purchase the medications in Mexico. ".

    Would you get caught? Probably not, but that doesn't make it legal!

  15. #18
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1019

    You Can Buy Most ED Meds in Europe

    I was able to hook up with a supplier from the ISG forum. He only ships to Europe and sells the generic brands of the ED meds. That's OK, because I make fairly frequent visits to a major European city for work. I simply make the transaction here in the USA and have the package shipped to my hotel, so it's waiting there for me when I arrive.

    For the record, I'm 61, fit, and a non-smoker. The plumbing is affected by Peyronie's, so my erection these days has a nearly 90-degree turn upwards. My doc says they now think it's caused by hardening of the same tissue that's in the palm of your hand at the base of your thumb. If you have spasms there, you may be at a higher risk of Peyronie's. They are backing off the injury theory as the main cause. Fortunately, it still functions as good as ever, except I'm a one-pop guy these days.

    OK, that was tangential. I've found that 50 mg of Viagra works best for me. I could only buy the 100 mg pills. I used a couple of full dose pills and, based on advice from another monger, I tried 50 mg by using a pill cutter to cut the pills in half. The effects were the same and I've doubled the shelf life of my supply. I've also used the generic Levitra with the same results. My side effects are predictable and manageable. I also bought some generic Cialis. I've tried 1-2 of the 20 mg pills, but the side effects for me were much worse. (I haven't tried cutting one of them in half yet.) So, I'm going to stick with the Viagra or Levitra and hope they will last until my next Europe trip in January. About the only difference for me between Viagra and Levitra is that I sometimes lose sensitivity with Viagra. I've never had a problem consummating the relationship with Levitra. But, I get a lot harder with Viagra than with any of the others.

    I've found that the pills work best on an empty stomach and when I've not had alcohol. I'm a light drinker (wine only) anyway. I figure that, if I'm going to invest a chunk of change in a lady's time, I want to maximize my return on investment.

    I guess I'm lucky in this regard that I have the opportunity to travel to a place where the products are either available OTC or casual sale is tolerated, and, as a result, I've been able to try all three of the major ED meds. . You can also buy pills and the Viagra gel at most London sex shops and at many of the FKK brothels in Germany and Austria. I've never traveled to Asia or Central America, so I can't comment on availability at those locations. I've also head that you can get a legal prescription at clinics in Mexican border towns, buy a supply in Mexico, and legally import them back to the USA Customs complains and may hassle you, but the prescription is legal.

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